Talk:Minutemen (band)

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1 Project: Mersh article help!
2 Page move
3 Wondering about geographic influence
4 Move?
5 Incomplete edit
6 no logo?
7 Vida link in History section
8 Logo + Pic
9 Fair use rationale for Image:Min85.JPG
10 Fair use rationale for Image:Minutemenconcertposter.png
11 Fair use rationale for Image:Minutemenlogo.png
12 Boon's girlfriend death?
13 Fair use rationale for Image:Watt-hurley.JPG

[edit] Project: Mersh article help!

I just started work on the Project Mersh article today. It looks good so far; I have the infobox, track listing, personnel and links. However, I am just not that good at writing the body. I tried to write the introduction, but I just couldn't do it. I wasn't even sure how explain the order of its release. Is Project: Mersh the final EP? (It depends on whether you include Minuteflag which recorded a month after P:M but released posthumously.) Was it the next to last recorded? (including or excluding Minuteflag) I would appreciate any help that you can offer. --Adamv88 19:02, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Here's the specifics of the band's name, more approporiate for the Talk page: (from Azerrad's book) "'[The '60s Minutemen would] send these notes to Angela Davis like they were going to bomb her but they never did,' Watt says. 'Mao has this quote which said all reactionaries are paper tigers--they're phonies. And he thought the [Sixties] Minutemen were big phonies.' Contrary to legend, the band was not named for the brevity of their songs." (Azerrad, 67).

"The" Minutemen, the punk band, were actually called "Minutemen", so this probably isn't the best place to move them. You see a "the" stuck in front of the name quite a lot, but that's a mistake (allmusic.com solves the grammatical clunkiness of leaving it out by studiously using a lower-case "the" to imply that it's not part of the name).

And they were pretty important in the history of punk so, if you ask me, dissing them in favour of the American militias is being provincial too! :) --Paul Drye

What he said. (I started it under "Minutemen" for the reasons above.) I'm not opposed to things that make it easier for people to find the article they want, of course. -- RjLesch

I shall not comment on the respective importance of the Minutemen militia vs. Minutemen punk band. :-)

But, I was clearly in the wrong for moving it to this page. I thought it was "The Minutemen" (since that's what the article said) so I thought it was a clever, although imperfect, solution to the ambiguity problem to move the band article to this page.

I can't say that Minuteman/Band is a much better solution, but it'll have to do for a few more weeks...we should be switching to Magnus's software soon, which will make it possible to put parentheses in article titles. --LMS

[edit] Page move

As you can see from previous discussion, it seems "the" is omitted from the band's name. Looking at the cover of albums further supports this. —jiy (talk) 04:34, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

Given that I'm the one Wikipedian that's been maintaining and trying to expand all Minutemen-related entries on Wikipedia, I am torn on the subject here as to whether or not The Minutemen entry should be rerouted without the article "The". However, that is not my call, as I am not one of the Minutemen. However, the Minutemen's bassist, Mike Watt himself, has been keeping up with the entries related to his work on Wikipedia and is aware that I have been working on them, and has offered corrections to same to me via e-mail correspondence. If the article "The" did not belong in the band I am sure he would have mentioned it himself by now. Cjmarsicano 06:23, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Would you mind asking Watt whether The is officially a part of the band's name? Keep in mind that The Minutemen (band) will still redirect to Minutemen (band) when the page is moved. —jiy (talk) 07:44, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

If you could, that would be ideal. Also, tell him I enjoyed We Jam Econo, the documentary. I'll probably be making a stub for that soon enough. · Katefan0^(scribble) 16:16, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

Asking him will have to wait until he gets back to the States, as he's playing with The Stooges in Europe right now, but ask him I will. Cjmarsicano 20:04, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wondering about geographic influence

Should this article touch on the relative isolation of bands like the Minutemen and Black Flag from the Hollywood/Chinatown punk scene (regardless of the lyrical contents of "History Lesson, Vol. 2"), and how this might have influenced their sound? Certainly either band was considerably more eclectic in nature than most of the acts at Madame Wong's. --Slightlyslack 10:28, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

I don't disagree there. I'll have to work on that part of the article when I have more free time, as I'm really foamin' to expand this article to Beatles/Zep/Pink Floyd levels ;) Cjmarsicano 15:00, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Move?

There hasn't been any discussion on this for months... perhaps wait to refile when the band is contacted? Ryan Norton ^{T | @ | C} 00:22, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

OK, its been months, so I'm delisting this :). I apologize for the inconvenience - please refile when the band is contacted or a decision is reached - thanks! Ryan Norton ^{T | @ | C} 22:26, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

I've known Mike for about 9 years. The band name is Minutemen. We could change the page now, or I can make a point of asking him next time I see him (probably in the next few weeks), and re-confirm it if anyone wants me to.

Mike was just in my office, he confirmed that the band's name is simply Minutemen, as it appears on their album covers. Although sometimes The Minutemen was used to describe the band, or less commonly Minute Men, Minutemen is the official name of the band. Unless there is objection, I'm going to move the page to Minutemen (band) and change this to a redirect page. Glowimperial 22:33, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Incomplete edit

I noticed that there seems to be an incomplete edit on the Minutemen page -- there is an incomplete phrase in the "Covers and Tributes" section, third paragraph -- "specifically the". I'm assuming that the person editing will finish, but if I don't notice a change by the end of the day, I'll probably go ahead and delete the phrase.--Larrybob 21:13, 29 March 2006 (UTC) -- looks like it's fixed now...--Larrybob 02:06, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] no logo?

I noticed the logo has been removed in favor of regular text, which says "The Minutemen"; the logo said only "Minutemen." Is this because the article "the" is being reinstated?

[edit] Vida link in History section

Hurley has produced work with [[Vida]], [[Mayo Thompson]]

Vida is a disambiguation article, I was unable to determine the context of the article and what the proper link would be. It would be good if this was fixed. --Midnightcomm 04:06, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't think any of these articles [are] correct -- it looks like this Vida is a music project of Dez Cadena -- [1]--Larrybob 16:19, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Logo + Pic

I uploaded a new logo and pic of the band... looks pretty shaweet ;) Dman92 16:02, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Min85.JPG

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BetacommandBot 05:06, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Minutemenconcertposter.png

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Minutemenlogo.png

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[edit] Boon's girlfriend death?

The current article reads "On December 22, 1985, Boon and his girlfriend were killed in a van accident, putting an end to the Minutemen."

While this may be true, in no other media that I can remember (e.g. Our Band Could Be Your Life and We Jam Econo) was it mentioned that Boon's girlfriend also died in the crash. Does someone have a definitive source one way or another? Painaxl 11:58, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. Well spotted. CloudNine 12:02, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Watt-hurley.JPG

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BetacommandBot (talk) 03:04, 12 February 2008 (UTC)