Talk:Minneapolis, Minnesota

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Contents 1 High school graduation rate 2 Maintenance 3 Trivia in photo captiions 4 Draft Minneapolis Plan 5 Parks distance from home 6 Population 7 Minneapolis Public Library/Hennipin County Library merger status

[edit] High school graduation rate

Someone made this edit saying that Minneapolis had one of the lowest high school graduation rates in Minnesota, citing this page from the Minnesota Department of Education. When I checked the report (the 2005-2006 Dropout/Graduation Rates-Special Populations report), it reveals that Minneapolis has a low graduation rate of 66.08%. I sorted the data and found that there are several school districts with lower graduation rates. Intermediate School District #287, Red Lake, and Cass Lake-Bena appear to be the only public school districts that have lower graduation rates. I'm not exactly sure if some of the other school districts listed are actually charter schools or some special vocational school districts.

Regardless, I think an explanation of the school graduation rate should be listed within Minneapolis Public Schools, since they're the responsible school district, and the data should be better qualified as to exactly which districts are selected within that sampling. (By the way, within the same edit, the editor asked for citations within the lead about Minneapolis having twenty lakes and wetlands and having a park within 1/2 mile of every house, even though those facts are mentioned later in the article.) --Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 06:05, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Maintenance

I made a few edits just now just to clean up some stray things. A nice addition in the Religion section and a mention of World Figuring Skating competition in 1998 are good but have been added verbatim to cuts and the To Do list for lack of citations. Tags asking for citations in the lead have been removed. Newsy section about the I35W bridge has been cut and the Transportation section "main" tag links to that article instead. Newsy section on Olympics bid is interesting but for the most part sounded "also ran" so I moved it there as well. -Susanlesch (talk) 16:50, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia in photo captiions

Many of the captions have promotional trivia. I am not taking them out yet, but want others to comment while I continue to think about it. TableManners^U·T·C 00:20, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. Although I don't see anything in the captions of a promotional nature, I am more than happy to move the text of captions to the article if necessary. For my comprehension skills it is easier to read in context of the image but perhaps others read in other ways (entirely possible). -Susanlesch (talk) 14:47, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Draft Minneapolis Plan

In case anyone else who might be interested missed this, and thanks to MinnPost for mentioning it, Minneapolis has a new draft city plan. They say comments can be in person at a January meeting or sent to their Web site. The chapter I saw so far looks like it could be useful as a source of facts (aside from planning). -Susanlesch (talk) 03:10, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Parks distance from home

Hello. A statement in the lead that a park is within 0.5 miles of every home was flagged for 'fact'. I had hoped to look this up today but am not able to help. The biography of Wirth cited in the "Parks and recreation" section doesn't quite cover it so I removed the sentences for now. -Susanlesch (talk) 15:32, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Population

Why does the U.S. Census American Fact Finder say the population of Minneapolis is 372,833 here and 369,051 here? -Susanlesch (talk) 08:28, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Note the 369,051 estimate gives an error of +/-9,889. I bet Mpls sent a challenge to the Census estimate considering the margin of error and pushed the pop estimate up--since many funding agencies look at Census estimates. In that case it takes into account building permits and new homeownership which the Census Bureau might not have the latest results. The Community Surveys are also done throughout the year for everywhere and doesn't necessarily reflect the entire year's progress. Thus the given 2006 estimate reflects the most recent data whereas the Community Survey is a snapshot of the year 2006 whenever it took place. .:DavuMaya:. 20:01, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

where is the racial profile for minneapolis? Before there was census data clearly stating that mpls isn't a bunch of whities like the rest of the state. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.120.52.67 (talk) 06:15, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

What do you find missing? Looking quickly what was there is still there at Minneapolis,_Minnesota#Demographics. -Susanlesch (talk) 16:06, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

"A bunch of whities" is nonsense. A large number of people of African descent live in Minneapolis, most of them descendants of people who were already in America in the 19th century, but also a substantial number of recent immigrants from Somalia and Ethiopia. Michael Hardy (talk) 11:11, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

The demographics section is kind of dumb. My main concern is the quote "Home ownership among black and Hispanic residents is half that of white, and one-third of the Asian population lives below the poverty line." is not completely informative since the Asian population is no longer homogeneous due to recent immigration. It would likely be as correct to say another one-third of the Asian population lives above the $100,000 income bracket. NPR article back in '02 And home ownership is not always analogous with poverty. With demos things can be spun either way especially since we have no clear majority. I'd rather not tinker and let you do it Susan. .:DavuMaya:. 20:13, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Greetings, Davumaya. Would you be interested in starting in on Demographics of Minneapolis, Minnesota to see how things pan out? My to do list outweighs my discretionary editing (the fun kind) and I couldn't subcontract until next year if then. Brookings and the U.S. Census may have some new data after the 2010 census which might be a good time to rewrite. -Susanlesch (talk) 20:35, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh blasted! You've strong-armed me into it :) Sure, demos are sort of my day job anyway. .:DavuMaya:. 19:01, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Minneapolis Public Library/Hennipin County Library merger status

The Minneapolis Public Library merger mentioned as pending happened and was finalized earlier this year; the library web site has info. The main page should probably be updated to reflect this. I'm not sure, however, how to keep the other info (circulation size data) up to date with the changes, or how best to update the paragraph. Elehack (talk) 03:00, 4 May 2008 (UTC)