Talk:Minigames of Final Fantasy
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Minigames of Final Fantasy was a good article nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. Reviewed version: August 30, 2007 |
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[edit] Redirected Pages
I think it's a good idea to create this page to provide a complete list of minigames in Final Fantasy series. However, I am not too sure if we should redirect individual pages to this page (therefore, losing the original pages) as the original pages have more information most of the time. And it would not be appropriate for this page to contain detailed information for all minigames. I would appreciate that if the discussion is carried out before ALL links are redirected --Cyktsui 07:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- The information that is in those pages that it not in this page is mostly step by step instructions on how to play the games, as well as strategies for winning. Tetra Master's article was longer than the gamefaqs (quite complete) faq about the game. I only wish I was kidding. Basically, the original pages needed cutting down and cleaning up, and since that's what we did when we merged them together, what use do the original pages serve? --PresN 07:47, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- Wikipedia can't be a game guide, so we aren't allowed to provide such detailed instructions of games, unless they are extremely notable (and even that is debated). Trust me, we all came to this site wanting to explain every detail of our favorite topics, but when we realized Wikipedia's true purpose, we began to look at all available resources and meanings for those resources. Wikibooks would be great for detailed, step-by-step instructions for every minigame; Wikipedia is not meant for that purpose. — Deckiller 03:40, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
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- Deckiller: I agree with you to a degree, Wikipedia should not have step for step instructions or go into extreme detail, but I don't think that that is the purpose of this article. This is more of a summary, a high-level overview of the various minigames that have appeared in the series.
[edit] Still to do
The lead needs to be, well...written, refs need to be found, and the prose needs a lot of work, as it an amalgamation of whatever good/bad writing was in the original articles and my own clumsy attempts. I'll start on that tomorrow. --PresN 07:47, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, and I've never actually played Sphere Break, so someone who has, please look over it to make sure that I'm not wrong about how the game goes, the original article was really confusing. --PresN 07:50, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Chocobo section
This article needs a section on Chocobos. There was breeding in Final Fantasy VII and Chocobo's Hot & Cold in Final Fantasy IX - these will be the main focus, but their use in other games should be mentioned. There should be a small introduction onto what Chocobos actually are (birds), and their main use (travel). Try to iterate on the development and real-world impact. --TheEmulatorGuy 01:49, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know if FF7's chocobo raising counted as a "minigame" per se, but maybe the chocobo racing, so yeah. And Chocobo Hot & Cold could use a section, it's just not here because it didn't have an article to be merged. --PresN 05:56, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Minigames of Final Fantasy 7
FFVII is quite under-represented here. There are a ton of mini-games in FF7, ranging from the small and fun(Skiing, submarine minefield) to the ongoing important Fort Condor(Best candidate). Depending on how you define "game" chocobo raising could be listed as well. --Rgb9000 20:01, 29 December 2006 (UTC) FF9's Chocobo Hot and Cold is going to be added, as well as FF7's Chocobo raising/racing, when I get around to it. --PresN 22:10, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
- Gold Saucer and Ft. Condor probably need to be mentioned for this article to meet the "broad in its coverage" criterion at WP:WIAGA. — Deckiller 16:47, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
- Yup, FFVII chocobo racing definitely needs to be here. Best minigame of all times.--SidiLemine 12:25, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Why is this considered a fictional game?
They are minigames, but they exist, don't they?--189.153.90.197 00:54, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
- Well, if you take the cards game, or the arcades, or the blitzball, they are all games being played in a game; hence the term "fictional games"--SidiLemine 12:33, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Failed Good Article nomination
I have reviewed this article, and feel that it does not meet the criteria for good articles on the following grounds:
- The bulk of the material comes from an in-universe perspective, in violation of WP:FICT. Describing the mechanics of various minigames does not establish a larger context.
- The larger context is actively missing from this article - there are only a few sentences devoted to anything that takes place outside of the fictional worlds of Final Fantasy. Most egregious is the reception section, which notes reviews from only one website.
- The material is functionally a list, making it unsuitable for GA-status. There is no larger overview of the role minigames play in Final Fantasy games, their imitators, what they contribute to the basic feel of the games, etc. This is really a sequence of mini-articles on a couple of minigames.
- The lead is poorly written, spending too much time explaining Final Fantasy and not enough anticipating the rest of the article.
Good luck in revising the article, and I look forward to reading it again. Phil Sandifer 19:11, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] edits
Did a few big time edits to this one. Saw it listed on the prjects to-do board and saw it failed GA status. Thought I'd do my part. There was quite a bit on "in universe" viewpoints to fix, but those were the biggest issues. Keep at it. Reason turns rancid 21:16, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Chocobo World
I have added chocobo world to this article and archived the old talk page. Please go here for the discussion. -- Noj r (talk) 21:30, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
