Talk:Mineriad

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[edit] Old stuff

Sorry for Romanian translations in (brackets) but I was in a hurry to finish so I had to add the original text where translations were uncertain.

- Revolutionary

I changed and "whether or not Iliescu directly told them to clear the University Square" by "following the orders of Iliescu, who directly told them to clear the university square".

This is not political propaganda but the pure truth. Go to http://www.avmr.ro/media.php and listen to Iliescu's original speeches to the miners. "Va rugam sa ocupati piata universitatii...ati venit la chemarea noastra" (English: Please occupy the university square...you came at our call).

Citation needed?I hardly think that's possible.There is no way to be citing that as nobody would officially state that.If any articles appear on the internet reflecting this view they can't be cited as attendable source.It is mostly propaganda or subjective views.These events are already of great historical nature and yet they can't be judged impartially by "offcial" historians.Whichever they may be.It takes not much knowledge of developments in Romania after 1990 to understand that.Many of the persons involved are still alive and in power.Iliescu is being heared by the Justice Court but that's about it. "The Mineriad of June 1990 was a staged event, not a spontaneous one" should be changed in "The Mineriad of June 1990 is (widely) believed to have been a staged event, not a spontaneous one, with political implications, going all the way to the Presidency and National Secret Services." as to reflect a degree of impartiality.(it is also true,and lots of proof exist,that a "wide believe" of this thesis exist among Romanians). "The Mineriads of 1990 and 1991 stand alongside the events in Târgu Mureş in 1990 as examples of mass manipulation in a KGB style"."KGB style" is very subjective so I can't think of an option to that but "examples of mass manipulation" could be changed to a form on the same judgement as above or a conclusion of it(staged event -> mass manipulation).--Radufan 17:06, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

I subscribe to your post. Actually, we are not making history here. The fact that most editors here were of the "Piata Universitatii" stock really shows. But I presume these guys will not accept to change the current position. What I tried to do (look at the previous version) is to push to the surface actual facts. Dpotop 20:55, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

I found a Caţavencu issue that has articles mostly from newspapers that were friendly to the FSN and Ion Iliescu. It includes quotes from Iliescu and Petre Roman. I'll try to add the information to the article this week. bogdan 16:10, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

It would be perfect. And then, we will be able to rephrase a bit the introduction.Dpotop 16:49, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New source

A new source on these events: Cristian Tudor Popescu in Gandul: [1]. Dpotop 13:22, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 02:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)