Talk:Mindy Kaling/Archive1

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Emmy Nip Slip/Name in Dartmouth

why was the relevant information about the Emmy wardrobe malfunction removed? Nrrinard 19:14, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

When I was looking for an article on Mindy, I was initially pretty confused about her name and couldn't find her. She was profiled in the Dartmouth Alumni Magazine as "Mindy Chokalingam," and the Dartmouth Name Directory lists her as "Vera Chokalingam." The Dartmouth Name Directory gives a student or alum's legal name only, and they'll only change the name upon legal name change because of marriage or other reasons. I'm sure there's more to this, but I'm not going to investigate it. This is the kind of stuff that's important, not whether her nipple slipped out on national television. Have some respect. She's a writer and character actress, not a professional sexpot. Anyway, Wikipedia isn't a tabloid. Think of what she'll be remembered for in ten or twenty years. It's not going to be the nipple slip. Billy Blythe 17:54, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
I've created redirects to this article from Mindy Chokalingam and Vera Chokalingam. As for the nipple slip, it is 1) negative and 2) poorly sourced, since a blog with the charming name of "TVgasm" does not count as a reliable source. I realized that this probably did happen, and that some sleazy people are ecstatic over the idea that Mindy's breast was partially exposed, but it makes a reasonably professional article look like a gossip sheet. If necessary, perhaps an RfC should be filed. Or maybe I should just call, write, or email Mindy herself and have her people see that Danny Wool take care of it. Notice above that the 3RR doesn't count in removing negative, poorly sourced material. I've dug my trench, and I'll be watching this. Billy Blythe 16:24, 8
Will you also be leaving anonymous death threats on Talk Pages? I hope not. I've added a source for the Emmy information that is not a blog, and has video of the incident. It's your opinion that the event is "negative." You are not going to be able to hold Wikipedia hostage to your prejudices and moralism. Eleemosynary 02:59, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
I doubt Mindy or et al would bother, seeing how she has worked the embarrassing incident into her stand up routine (she joked about it @ largo the day after the emmy's). background info about this incident makes her punch lines more enjoyable (she wanted to give her "nanna" a surprise gift over the air!). we should welcome all kinds of knowledge, but I appreciate your insight about this turning into a gossip sheet; we need reputable sources! 71.109.214.80
This sort of info is not uncommon on Wikipedia. Please stop trying to censor it. It is non-negative (or only negative in the eyes of self-appointed censors), and clearly sourced to Defamer and VH-1. Please note that there is a page entirely devoted to such occurences on Wikipedia. [1] Eleemosynary 21:18, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
News Flash. Apparently, Billy Blythe is trying to keep the Emmy Awards incident off the page because he is a "fellow Dartmouth alum" of Kaling, and doesn't care for there to be any material about her he deems negative. [2]
I recently received an anonymous death threat on my Talk Page after I restored the Emmy Awards info. That's interesting, because Billy Blythe has a history of making such threats on Wikipedia: [3] (Scroll down the diff page for the meaty part of the threat.)
Sorry, Wikipedia is not subject to demands of censorship from fellow alumni of the article subject. The incident is not "gossip" (as gossip is simply unsourced speculation). The incident is sourced, not at all negative, and hardly salacious. As an above editor noted, even Kaling is joking about the incident in her standup act.
"Negative" info is truly in the eye of the beholder. It's my opinion that calling the Dartmouth alumni office to ascertain Kaling's birth name, then publishing it here, might constitute an invasion of her privacy. She's changed her name for reasons of her own, and I doubt she'd look kindly on having her private family name tracked down and posted here. However, as this is my opinion, I won't be deleting the info. Even though I find it distasteful. And borderline stalking.
And, hey... knock off the death threats. Eleemosynary 01:02, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
According to http://www.ed.gov/policy/gen/guid/fpco/ferpa/index.html, "Schools may disclose, without consent, "directory" information such as a student's name, address, telephone number, date and place of birth, honors and awards, and dates of attendance. However, schools must tell parents and eligible students about directory information and allow parents and eligible students a reasonable amount of time to request that the school not disclose directory information about them. Schools must notify parents and eligible students annually of their rights under FERPA. The actual means of notification (special letter, inclusion in a PTA bulletin, student handbook, or newspaper article) is left to the discretion of each school." 71.116.233.119
The source you cite does not apply to private colleges such as Dartmouth. Eleemosynary 18:30, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
please reread FERPA. "The law applies to all schools that receive funds under an applicable program of the U.S. Department of Education." 71.118.241.122 12:00, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
And that's the sad thing. Brian G. Crawford (who posted above under the troll name "Billy Blythe,") has been banned indefinitely from Wikipedia from (among other things), making death threats to several editors.[4][5][6][7] He even went so far to issue a death threat to Kelly Martin from his personal Dartmouth alum email address.[8] From his above interests, he has also taken a stalker-like interest in Ms. Kaling. It's unfortunate that a loophole in FERPA allowed Crawford to track down her name and address. Eleemosynary 06:36, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
actually, only schools like Grove City and Hillsdale would be exempt, they don't even accept federal student loans.
This is the most absurdly trivial incident. Part of one aureole visible for a fraction of a second? Big fat hairy deal. If you want to look at titties there's a whole internetfull out there. Move on. Guy 21:39, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
An uncivil, bad faith remark that furthers the discussion not a whit. But now that you've permanently blocked Brian G. Crawford/Billy Blythe for his repeated vandalism and unhinged death threats, I'm willing to look the other way. Cheers! Eleemosynary 18:28, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Agreed, this incident is certainly not encyclopedic, nor particularly interesting for that matter. I'm amazed it took office protection to keep such trivia out of this article. This isn't censorship, it's basic editorial judgement. Nobody gives a flip about Mindy Kaling's aureola being visible on TV for a tenth of a second. Try to add something useful to Wikipedia for a change. Kaldari 00:58, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Not a comment on whether or not the incident is notable for inclusion in the article, but WP:BLP only applies to unsourced, negative material. The information in question is sourced and thus WP:BLP does not apply. savidan(talk) (e@) 03:23, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

We have no source for its being considered significant by independent reliable sources, and no source for it being considered significant by her. All we know is that the Beavis and Butthead fraternity sniggered a bit, which, let's face it, is what they do anyway. Guy 10:04, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

I just hope that Mindy reads the raging debate on Wikipedia about whether or not to include information about her "surprise gift" and can use it for future material. NSpector 08:26, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Disappearing page?

Why did this entry disappear? It was apparently deleted "to be redone", but almost a week later hasn't, you know, been redone.... 208.27.203.126 20:24, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

It was speedy deleted without reason. There was controversy that was addressed and removed (see above) but for some reason, the article was still deleted. I've re-written the article to an adequate point. Can we please discuss any deletions next time? Williamnilly 05:37, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
I didn't delete it, because I can't, and I certainly didn't tag it, because it didn't meet any CSD criteria, obviously. I don't understand why my redirects were deleted or why her birth name is cited as something different than I've found in Dartmouth sources which are extremely reliable. I think I wrote it out pretty clearly, and it really ought to be corrected, but since there's been some controversy, apparently, I'm not touching it. I've done my best with it, and since this is a wiki, people may introduce errors as they see fit. I'll tag it as factually disputed, though. Billy Blythe 00:10, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
Well, whoever the person(s) are who had an issue with it should come forth and explain themselves. This article isn't bad for a start and to delete something over such a trivial single issue as a real name seems rather ridiculous to me, especially without discussing the issue specifically in detail. If there are no issues for this topic in the coming weeks, I think we should remove the "factuality disputed" notice.Williamnilly 01:55, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
As I recall, the page was deleted by Danny Wool himself. I suggest you direct your questions to him:[9] Eleemosynary 13:15, 29 September 2006 (UTC)


Real name

I called the Dartmouth Alumni Office, and they confirmed that her birth name is Vera Chokalingam. Billy Blythe 19:57, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

I found the only online source for "Vera" and cited it. Williamnilly 20:07, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Image

I'm not going to edit this while its under office protection, but when its unprotected, could someone please remove the image at the top? It is not fair use in this article. Thanks, --RobthTalk 02:28, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

I went ahead and removed it. – Quadell (talk) (random) 17:06, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

category

Since the The Office-Casting page lists her as an Indian-American, could some add Category:Indian Americans ? Bakaman Bakatalk 04:20, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Why office action?

Why is there an office action on this article? Tempshill 18:39, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

It's a typo; someone meant to type {{the_office}}... :) /skagedal... 17:45, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

If it is a typo, and doesn't really need the office protection, why not remove it? C. Kilpatrick 02:39, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm sure he was joking. An office action really was made, I assume it has something to due with Billy Blythe's comments above.--Cúchullain t/c 04:27, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Spelling of character name

I don't think this is controversial, but per instructions I'm posting it here before making the change: The character's name is spelled "Kapoor" rather than "Kapour." I will change this in a few days if there are no objections. Andrew Levine 21:49, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

The character page also reflects this change. It's been a merry two months. I think it should be changed. Hbdragon88 06:25, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Changed. Conscious 15:31, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Out of date

Info regarding "upcoming" show The Office is out of date and the link links to the wrong version of the show (the UK version). Tempest 13:55, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

In late 2004, it was upcoming. But I can see the confusion and I wouldn't dispute a change. And I think the latter should be written as "the American version of British TV series The Office." Williamnilly 15:57, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Minor changes

I made two minor changes to the article today; I added the page to Category:Indian Americans, per someone's suggestion above, and added Kaling's country of birth (America).--Cúchullain t/c 04:33, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

A minor change

In the first paragraph on Mindy Kaling, one of the links about Kelly Kapoor links here when it should probably link here. Is that supposed to be this way? Kaori (Please sign my autograph book!) 01:03, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps it used to, before a separate page for the character was created. I fixed the link.--Cúchullain t/c 05:00, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Category:The Office cast members

See: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_January_25#Category:Actors_by_series.

Please remove the category once the article is unprotected. -- Prove It (talk) 06:18, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Suggested change

In the current version of the article, there is the following text:

"In late 2004, she was hired as a writer and performer for the upcoming American version of The Office." (emphasis mine).

Surely the American version stopped being "upcoming" a long time ago? --Dreaded Walrus 18:39, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

No, the tense is correct. --Celtstock 00:03, 29 March 2007 (UTC-4)
Oh wait. Yes, in the sense that it was upcoming at the time. Sorry, I just misread the sentence. :) --Dreaded Walrus 14:37, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

An utter joke

That this page is still locked down for a specious "office action." Several editors have made several requests to the "Foundation" asking them to unlock the page[10][11][12], or for a reason why it remains locked. To date, none of those editors have received a reply. It's time for an answer. Eleemosynary 15:53, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I have brought it up with a member of the Board. It is being looked into. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 00:50, 13 April 2007 (UTC)