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[edit] Admirals nickname use

When they joined the AHL was there any controversy over the Admirals name since Norfolk already had it? Did they have to pay Norfolk to be able to keep the name? Probably would be worth mentioning if someone can find some verifiable source on that. 67.46.0.13 06:25, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Doesn't look like there was any controversy at all, according to this news report from the time: http://www2.jsonline.com/sports/etc/jun01/admiral05060401.asp. They certainly didn't have to pay anyone for a name they were using 25 years before the Norfolk club was founded. --Chancemichaels 19:13, 30 January 2007 (UTC)Chancemichaels

[edit] Official Logo

With or without the "Milwaukee Admirals" text? The isolated head is on the jerseys and on theahl.com. ccwaters 02:46, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

The official logo includes the "ADMIRALS" wordmark. The "Admiral Head" is only used on the uniforms. Rumor has it that the team will be getting a new uniform - and possibly a new logo - for 2007.

New jerseys and logo not possible until 2008. They didn't get anything approved before January 06.--Admiralfreak 00:44, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

The Admirals WILL be introducing a new logo and color scheme for the 2006-2007 season. They will be unveiling it on August 2nd in Milwaukee at the Summerfest grounds. Rumor has it that the new colors are primarily black and blue, with red and white accents. What the new logo will be is being kept tightly under wraps.
August 1st at 6:00 PM at the Summerfest grounds. jwhouk 14:21, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Personal feelings about said logo aside - the change in color is a radical one for the franchise. The Admirals have always had some form of red, white and blue in their uniforms. The change to black, silver and light blue is drastic - if not erroneous, due to the "pirate-like" theme. -jwhouk 14:22, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Founding date

I'm really iffy on the founding date. The team started out as an amatuer club. When did it go pro? When it went to the IHL?? The Hershey Bears are another example of amatuer to pro. ccwaters 04:04, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

The tradition states that the club started as the Milwaukee Flyers in 1970, then played as an independent for three years until they joined the USHL in 1973. When the USHL made it clear that they were going to switch to amateur (Juniors) status, Lloyd Pettit moved the team to the IHL in 1977. jwhouk 03:52, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Record Scratch

Moved to article ccwaters 22:29, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rich Sirois win record

Sirois win record might be slightly higher. The 119 tally does not include any possible wins from the 83-84 season when he apparently played 4 games for the Ads. I can't find complete stats for him that year. If someone has that data, could you please add it on. Thanks ccwaters 12:41, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

The problem is that the IHL didn't keep goaltender won-loss records in the 1970's and 1980's. I could scour the Journal boxes from that year, or see if I can contact the Admirals to see if they have anything in their archives about it. jwhouk 03:50, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Colors

I don't see the problem with having specificity when it comes to the Admiral's colors. They are definitely cardinal (color) and Vegas gold (See this for what color Vegas gold is). I would rather have seen KnoxSGT put in some edit descriptions, but other than that I think his edits improve the page. Cheers--BaronLarf 20:40, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't think the colors name were his edits. Anyway names like that are generally just trivial marketing. ccwaters 20:55, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
The colors were taken from SSUR.org's Uniform Colors List for the AHL. The colors are listed as Maroon, Blue, Black, Copper and Silver. Hope that helps. jwhouk 03:47, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
In a similar vein, I'm going to change the new colors back to the way the team describes them. The sweater might look gray, but the team color is silver (much the same way the Oakland Raiders uniforms were gray until the introduction of synthetic fabrics that can give a metallic sheen). Until the club lists gray as a uniform color, it should be called silver. --Chancemichaels 11:43, 5 August 2006 (UTC)Chancemichaels
Also, I removed "white" from the uniform colors list. A quick look at other American Hockey League clubs shows that it's not listed for other teams, and we should endeavor to be consistent. ---Chancemichaels 11:48, 5 August 2006 (UTC)Chancemichaels
I won't challenge the colors listed, but I believe that in addition to black and white, the other colors are called "battleship gray" and "Lake Michigan blue". -jwhouk 14:21, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
You may well be right. I can't to see what the SSUR lists for the colors - so far, all we've seen is the Admirals' press release, which lists "black, silver, and ice blue"[1]. --Chancemichaels 16:29, 7 August 2006 (UTC)Chancemichaels
Well, the new colors are up on the SSUR database, and listed as Milwaukee Admirals Black, Milwaukee Admirals Blue "Ice Blue", Milwaukee Admirals Silver, and White. Milwaukee Admirals Gray is listed as a "Secondary color - road uniforms only", and Milwaukee Admirals Green and Milwaukee Admirals Yellow are listed as "Additional colors - secondary logo only".[2] I dunno - I don't see any green in that secondary logo, but he ought to know. Maybe there's something that hasn't been unveiled yet.
As far as this entry goes, the convention appears to be only to list the primary colors (see the pages for Norfolk Admirals, Omaha Ak-Sar-Ben Knights, Syracuse Crunch, Peoria Rivermen and others), so the colors in the entry should probably remain "black, silver and ice blue". --Chancemichaels 18:49, 3 November 2006 (UTC)Chancemichaels

[edit] Founding date, cont.

Can we come to a consensus as to the proper format for the founding date, rather than reverting and re-reverting? 1970-1971 is accurate, but January 1970 is even more so (showing that the club was formed in advance of the hockey season, halfway in the previous season). Any reason why it has to be expressed in the two-year season format? --Chancemichaels 03:13, 21 August 2006 (UTC)Chancemichaels

Just realized - 1970-1971 is not accurate. The 1970-1971 season started in November of 1970 and ran through the spring of 1971 (as the name would suggest). The Wings played their first game in January of 1970, in what would have been the 1969-1970 season had they belonged to a full-season league. So we have a choice of "1970" or "1969-1970." But since they were an independent team, not in a full-season league, 1970 seems to be the best choice. --Chancemichaels 20:21, 7 November 2006 (UTC)Chancemichaels

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