Talk:Milouš Jakeš

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his name is Milouš, not Miloš!!! --213.235.102.135 15:53, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

  • Indeed. The Czech Wikipedia says: "As a general secretary [of the Communist Party of Czechoslovakia] Jakeš used the firstname "Miloš"; during the trial it was revealed that his actual name is "Milouš". It is not known why he chose to use a different name." - Mike Rosoft 12:38, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Regarding the penalty Jakeš would face if found guilty: it is unlikely that he would have been sentenced to life imprisonment. According to the Czech criminal law the penalty for high treason is 12 to 15 years in jail, or "exceptional punishment" (up to 25 years or life imprisonment); however, the life imprisonment can only be used if the crime involves intentional killing. In addition, the court would have likely taken into account his age and the amount of time that has passed since the crime, and might have gone even below the minimum sentence. - Mike Rosoft 12:38, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Miloš Milouš

I strongly recommend to move the page back to Miloš. This is the name under which the world (the part that cares) knows him and this is also the name most of the Czechs (who care) know him. Pavel Vozenilek 16:08, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I do not agree. Please compare the google search results:
I think that most of the Czechs who know him know his real name "Milouš Jakeš".
--pabouk 21:26, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
People do remember and do internalize what they read or heard most. At the time when comrade Jakes was on front page of every newspaper of Czechoslovakia he was known as Milos. Dtto for the foreigners. That funny rename story bubbled up at then time when nobody cared about him anymore. Pavel Vozenilek 23:37, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I support the move back per Pavel's arguments. Also try that Google test for pages in English only, you'll get something about 190 for Milos against 70 for Milous. --- Sandius 19:42, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The "Target of jokes" section

Am I the only one who is wondering what is such a section doing in a serious encyclopedia article? --- Sandius 19:42, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I would definitely keep the current text, I do nor remember any other speach of communist leader that was distributed as pirate casette tape copy among the citizens, turned into a dance song etc. Maybe the section could be renamed "Trivia" and moved to the end of the article. JanSuchy 05:20, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
I am definitely for keeping the section. It describes an important cultural phenomena in the period around the Velvet Revolution. --pabouk 09:27, 6 April 2007 (UTC)