Talk:Millstone River Photonickers

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I don't see any Internet articles visible through google mentioning this organization that aren't copies or links to this Wikipedia page. References to primary sources outside Wikipedia are needed. MarkWahl 17:43, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Millstone River Photonickers is not limited to RCA corporation and its successor Sarnoff Corporation but is an informal affinity group consisting of many workers in the field of diode lasers and photonics. This group represents a very significant portion of the non-telecommunications-centric photonics industry in the United States. Given the importance of photonics in emerging and existing products, the most notable being optical recording (CDs DVDs etc) which originated from this group, and many new technologies coming out from them (not only including the writer and not limited to Sarnoff Corporation by any means) as we speak, I thought it might be worthwhile to maintain a Wikipedia page describing them.

Your decision, of course.

Jabeles 05:14, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Contents 1 not an article about "a company" as tagged 2 tag removed 3 section on transportation history of the Millstone River 4 citations needed 5 low importance among organizations 6 This article or section contains predictions, speculative material or accounts of events that might not occur.

[edit] not an article about "a company" as tagged

I am considering removing the tag regarding this page being "about a company" because, prima facie, Millstone River Photonickers is not (whatever else you can say about it) "about a company" but about dozens of organizations not limited to companies but also including government and academic organizations with the common thread of history. I'm referring to the historic demonstration and development of diode lasers which has and is continuing to launch industries. The Optoelectronics Industry Development Association (OIDA) has stated that optoelectronic products are a $250B per annum industry world wide and members of Millstone River Photonickers are responsible for a very significant piece of this, and indeed contributed to all of it.

The spread of the expertise originally arrayed at RCA Laboratories in the 1950s, 1960s and thereafter through migration of key scientists and engineers and midcareer changes to financial government entrepreneurial and academic careers, is a great story of American technological and scientific history.

Jabeles 05:22, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] tag removed

As suggested above, I removed the tag regarding articles being "about a company".

Jabeles 05:27, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] section on transportation history of the Millstone River

I agree that the history of Millstone River is disproportionate in length. I certainly am open to editing it down. The unifying theme is the commercial spirit of the rapid growth in application of the science of diode lasers having sprouted forth in great part from this unique river that connected the New York and Philadelphia metropolitan areas in days of yore.

Jabeles 05:31, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] citations needed

I have added citations to three well-known and widely consulted volumes, serving to substantiate the tradition of optoelectronics physics and technology at RCA Laboratories, as well as reference and a hyperlink to the 2000 Nobel Prize shared by Herbert Kroemer who performed a substantial portion of his groundbreaking work while at RCA Laboratories in the 1950s. I removed the related tag, hopefully with the approval of Administrators who can replace it if they deem fit.

Jabeles (talk) 15:51, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] low importance among organizations

Millstone River Photonickers would appear to be the only organization that brings together in one place the enormous accomplishments resulting from the optoelectronics traditions at Sarnoff. From an economic standpoint alone these accomplishments are far from "low importance." As only one example, optical disk recording technology was invented by Millstone River Photonickers working at RCA Laboratories in the 1970s and 1980s. The economic influence of CDs, DVDs, etc. is in the many billions of dollars. Similar contributions have been made in other areas as well as critical technical contributions made to government projects. The list of spin-off companies is a clue to the influence of the members of this organization. To our knowledge, no spin-off company affiliated with Millstone River Photonickers has ever failed, an enviable record.

Jabeles (talk) 15:57, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

I think the criteria may be rather simply of a quantitative nature rather than taking qualitative measures into consideration. For other WikiProjects focusing more on the qualitative substance of this group, a higher grade assessment is more likely. Check out the WikiProject's assessment criteria yourself to establish the facts of my guesswork. __meco (talk) 11:34, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] This article or section contains predictions, speculative material or accounts of events that might not occur.

Having scrutinize the "copy" on the main page, I truly am at a loss to identify even a single prediction made in the main page. I propose to remove the tag, but I am cautious since I might have missed something.

If someone could enlighten us please?

Jabeles (talk) 16:01, 13 May 2008 (UTC)