Talk:Millennium Park
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[edit] Financial Information
I moved the budget overrun section here to the talk page temporarily to work on piecing together a more comprehensive article as the project has now been officially completed. The budget overrun section, written by Toytoy, will be reintroduced into the article. --Gerald Farinas 14:57, 16 Jul 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Budget overrun
The project was known for its notorious delays (it was originally intended to open in 2000 instead of 2004) and tripled costs. This park, in John Bryan, a fundraiser's words, would "be a monument to the very essence of the city of Chicago." It contains notable structures and gardens built by some of the best architects and designers available, and has a Frank Gehry-designed bandshell.
Many structures in the park were added, redesigned or modified. This resulted in budget increase. For example, the band shell's proposed budget was $10.8 million. It becomes $60.3 million in the end.
| Project | Proposed Cost | Final Cost | % |
| Garage | $87.5 million | $105.6 million | 121% |
| Metra superstructure | $43.0 million | $60.6 million | 141% |
| Band shell | $10.8 million | $60.3 million | 558% |
| Music and Dance Theater | $20.0 million | $60.0 million | 300% |
| Park finishes/landscaping | N/A | $42.9 million | - |
| Design and management costs | N/A | $39.5 million | - |
| Endowment | $10.0 million | $25.0 million | 250% |
| Crown Fountain | $15.0 million | $17.0 million | 113% |
| BP Pedestrian Bridge | $8.0 million | $14.5 million | 181% |
| Lurie Garden | $4.0-8.0 million | $13.2 million | 330%-165% |
| SBC sculpture | $6.0 million | $11.5 million | 192% |
| Exelon Pavilions | N/A | $7.0 million | - |
| Peristyle/Wrigley Square | $5.0 million | $5.0 million | 100% |
| Bank One Promenade | $6.0 million | $4.0 million | 67% |
| McCormick Tribune ice rink | $5.0 million | $3.2 million | 64% |
| Misc. (fencing, terraces, graphics) | N/A | $1.6 million | - |
[edit] dissent...
I don't see anything postmodern about Millennium Park. If anything we could consider it "ultra-modern" or "wow-factor" modern. I don't know what this type of Gehry architecture is called, but it is certainly not postmodern. Postmodern architecture draws on historical themes and style, and adds a modern "twist" to them. There isn't any historical reference in the band shell, just references to Gehry's other work.
I think in this sense "postmodern" serves as an ambiguous term referring to all contemporary architecture -- novel (i.e., not derivative) structures designed after the modern period. -- Downward spiral of death 23:45, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
This article does not cite sources, and some of the information appears to be based on copyrighted material. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 163.192.21.43 (talk) 19:34, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Commercial photography ban
Does the ban on commercial photography have ramifications for GFDL licensing? Based on the article's source [1], it would appear that there are. Any thoughts? NatusRoma | Talk 06:30, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
- There is currently no ban on commercial photography in Millennium Park, rather the copyrights for the artworks in the park are still held by the artists. Under US copyright law there is no freedom of panorama for sculptures (although there is for buildings), so photographs of the artworks in Millennium Park are considered derivative works and only the artist can give permission for the publication of such works. ASAIK, the City of Chicago started trying to enforce a commercial photography ban, in part at least, because the city paid the artists for an exclusive licence to sell such derivative works. As far as Wikipedia is concerned, photographs of the artworks in the park should only appear here under claims of fair use. --JeremyA 18:08, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Featured Topic Drive
I feel that the attractions at Millennium Park deserve some editorial attention. I think it may be possible to improve them to WP:FT status. I have created the template below to help us understand how the related articles are progressing. Right now we have 
Crown Fountain, Jay Pritzker Pavilion, 
BP Pedestrian Bridge, and Lurie Garden. There is a long way to go. Crown Fountain will be renominated after it ends its current WP:PR. There is a lot of work to do. Next up for me will be McCormick Tribune Plaza/Ice rink. I am not sure how much is out there beyond Chicago press on this one. The impetus for the drive came after discussions with User:Torsodog about our common interests in Lakeshore East and Millenium Park. He is doing a good job of cleaning up Cloud Gate. It will be on its way to WP:GAC soon, I imagine.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:14, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
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Follow the featured topic drive at WP:CHIFTD.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:00, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Budget Reference?
There doesn't seem to be a reference for the budget table. There is some important information there, and I went to source the Cloud Gate portion for its article, but I couldn't seem to find any reliable source stating that the original budget was $6 million. Anyone know where this info was originally found? Torsodog (talk) 05:18, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
