Talk:Millennium Force

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Contents 1 The ride section 2 Top steel coaster citations 3 Duration 4 Stadium Seating 5 Size Limit 6 Opening Date

[edit] The ride section

I have typed up a walkthough of MF in accordance with the WikiProject Roller Coasters and am almost completely sure that I got all the elements and the camera. However, if anybody notices anything missing, please let me know. Also, any constructive criticism on how to improve the section would be appreciated as well.

It might be worth noting that the lift used to accelerate as it neared the top of the hill, almost creating the sensation that it was "throwing" you over the hill. Starting this year though, the train slows at the top, which makes for a new experience in the front seat. I liked the acceleration because it made the long lift hill less tedious, but hanging over the top at 80 degrees was pretty wild. --Birdhombre 03:16, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion, I will keep it in mind. I will try to get a front seat ride on MF the next time I go to CP. It probably will not be till early August though. --Coaster1983 18:35, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Top steel coaster citations

Cedar Point's claim of Millennium Force being the #1 steel coaster on the planet stems from the ratings of Amusement Today magazine. So far I've been able to track down three references: 2003 (2nd place), 2004 (1st place), and 2005 (1st place). They don't seem to have anything older on their web site.

Ah but wait, there's more: this Cedar Point news release from July, 2006 indicates Millie was #1 this year as well. There's also this news release from 2005, which says, Millennium Force, Cedar Point’s 310-foot-tall “giga-coaster,” was rated the “Best Steel Roller Coaster in the World” in the “Golden Ticket Awards,” which are presented to the “best of the best” in the amusement industry as voted in an international survey conducted by Amusement Today newspaper. Since opening in 2000, it has been given the title of No. 1 four times since 2001 and has never been ranked lower than No. 2 in the poll.

I don't think it was ranked at all the year it opened, since the awards are announced in July but the park opens in May. Based on Cedar Point's awards page, Millie was #1 in 2002, 2004, 2005, and 2006, and #2 in 2003. This page says (along with various other pages, if you do a google) it was also ranked #1 in 2001 -- makes sense since, in 2005, CP said it had ranked first four times -- bringing our total to five.

I think I'll go ahead and add them to the article, since someone took the time to add the {{Fact}} tag. --Birdhombre 05:19, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Duration

Although the park's information says 2:45 for ride length, anyone with a stopwatch can tell you that the ride is more like 1:20. Infact, the control panel has a readout of each trip's time with an average around 65 to 70 seconds. A time faster than 58 seconds results in an overspeed trouble light and a time slower than 89 seconds means the train isn't coming back at all (rollback). It depends on the temprature of the day, so this is a really hard stat to pin down. Cchard 18:29, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

A note I recieved brings up an interesting point. Do we want what is published? Or what is right? And what if there are several different versions of the published information. The website says one thing, but having WORKED at some of these rides and read (and even edited) the manuals I know that quite a few of these stats are way off. I understand the need for citation, but it hurts me to see stats that are wrong by double or even more. Cchard 18:36, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

I think you should edit your page because millenuim was voted #1 this year.

Hey again, I'm with you. I'd rather have the realistic statistics on these pages, unfortunately Wikipedia has the policy of no original research (see WP:NOR), so unless we find the real stats published somewhere, we shouldn't use them. -- Stratosphere ^{(U T)} 23:15, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

According to a Youtube video of the official POV of Millenium Force, the ride is 1:46 minutes (106 seconds). It never rolled back, stalled, or valleyed. It was moving perfectly smoothly, so that statement could not be true, unless you are talking about the time from the beginning of the drop to the final brake run (1:20 minutes, or 80 seconds).

[edit] Stadium Seating

Just a heads up, I added the notion of the stadium seating arrangement in the coaster's trains in the Train secion. Hyde244 21:54, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Size Limit

I added this to the talk page for Top Thrill Dragster, and it's also relevant here even though this article doesn't mention the size limit. A woman submitted a complaint to Ripoff Report (http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff97243.htm ) stating that her son, who is 6'9" and 270 pounds, was denied admission to both Top Thrill Dragster and Millennium Force because of his size. She only states that he was "too large" and does not specify whether his height or weight was the problem, although the use of the word "large" suggests that his girth was the issue. 69.121.226.35 03:03, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Opening Date

I actually heard that it opened sometime in December 1999. Now I'm confused. --Coastergeekperson04 03:39, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Completely untrue; Cedar Point is open from May-October; the ride opened on opening day 2000 (May 13). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.172.226.167 (talk) 02:21, 3 November 2007 (UTC)