Talk:Military parade
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This article is well done. Maurreen 16:00, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Cleared up some things for me. BritBoy 22:37, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
The bit about kilted soldiers not bringing their legs up to 90 degrees is wrong. As an ex-sergeant major in a Highland Regiment I can assure you that when I was taught drill and when I taught it myself,there was always insistence on having the thighs parallel to the ground and the lower leg at right anglesat the top of the movement.
coileachmor@ntlworld.com 01:14, 8th May 2005
- Maybe you're talking about slow marching. --Iamcon 10:39, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
- No he is talking about all British Drill. Kilted or not, the thigh is always taught to be 90 degrees to the ground, and people are often punished for not doing so when on parade. Philip.t.day (talk) 20:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
This article doesn't represent a world-wide view, as it is a mixture of American, British Commonwealth, and other methods of military parades. Might we consider splitting up each section of drill into perhaps American and British Commonwealth? Patar knight 22:57, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
The Article suggests formation fighting ended in late 1800's but did the British Not fight in Africa in the early 1900's in formation as they had in the previous century with good effect? Philip.t.day (talk) 20:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Drill
Most of this article concerns drill. This is another article's worth of information. There can still be an article on military parades in general.--jrleighton 00:36, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Why?
I'd be interested to see more discussion on what drill is really for in the modern world. Apart from the one reference to riot control, it appears to be largely a matter of ceremony nowadays. In this world of defence cutbacks how can our fighting forces waste so much time learning what are essentially ceremonial maneuvers?!
Of course the other answer is that it encourages teamwork, but then there are plenty of other exercises that do this too, while teaching more practical skills. Or is it a way of training people to respond to orders without thinking? Or to break the minds of the more belligerent conscripts?
Just some food for thought. I don't know enough about the subject, but would be interested to see more on this in the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.106.135.90 (talk) 13:43, 28 February 2007 (UTC).
It instills discipline and teamwork into a group of soldiers, and can makes them think, while constantly learning new movements. It also teaches soldiers how to respond to orders quickly and effectively Patar knight 13:20, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
- It also looks a hell of a lot better than a crowd running from point A to point B. Also, everyone stays together, so if someone faints/falls/gets bit by a rattlesnake/explodes, you know about it. By the way, one usually equates "soldiers" with the army. There are other branches that drill. --76.212.171.89 06:41, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Merger
Support. I support the fact that this article should be merged, both are pretty close to the same anyways, so why keep them apart? And also they are not just "ceremonial maneuvers" as it was so crudely put, they are there so that is is easy to know where everyone is and where you can go. Zazzer 00:59, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
The merger with Drill(military) if it was needed, which I contest as being neccessary,has been the wrong way. Parade drill is only one aspect of military drill. Whilst moving parade military to military drill would make sense.The two articles fit badly together in the parade article. What place has for example unarmed combat drill and musket drill have in a page titled parade. Just because the parade article was the longer of the two does not make it the logical destination page for a merger. If the merger is deemed appropriate, I propose resurrecting the Drill(military) page and making parade a subsection of it.Koonan the almost civilised 11:08, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Merge suggestion
Plz see Talk:Drill commands#Merge suggestion. `'mikka 23:18, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Types of drill
All actions at the halt should be classified as 'static drill'. Then the seperate sub sub headings of turns, etc can be added. it also presents more information. I will check what the other types, marching, etc, are officially called. --Iamcon 10:45, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Worldview
Would like to suggest that this article be organized by country. That is, I. British Commonwealth, II. United States, III. something else, etc. As it is, it seems as though the article is mainly British, with some US contrasts thrown in as asides, and it's really hard to follow what's going on. Maybe a section first on history, common terminology, overall concepts. But really, the article as-is does not represent a full picture of the subject. --Mukk 19:05, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
How about moving the page to Military parade in the British Commonwealth and also create a page called Military parade in the United States and then separate the current page into the two. It can all be merged into Military parade at a later date if there is enough for a worldview. Jhfireboy Talk 14:24, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- There'd be an awful lot of overlap, though, if those two pages were created.
- In the meantime, there's interwiki links to a number of foreign language wikis -- these will probably be able to expand the worldview of the article. I can tackle the Polish wiki; anyone here speak Danish, German, or Swedish? --Mukk 08:39, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] You guys should check out the 50th anniversary chinese national parade
That's the best parade I ever seen, it just make other parade seems easy and not as good. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.227.170.226 (talk) 07:50, 28 November 2007 (UTC)