Talk:Military of Iraq

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[edit] Iraq updates needed

While some pages on Iraq will need some time to be fully updated, I think we can safely gut Military of Iraq as the chance of it being accurate ever again are just about nil. --Dante Alighieri 07:26, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Shouldn't it be shifted into the past tense, or moved to some kind of "history" article rather than bombed until the rocks bounce chopped down? Onebyone 10:45, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I agree, but I can already see the edit war over what it should be called. The Military of Iraq before .... (fill the gap at user's own risk). Bmills 10:48, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I suggest The Military of Iraq before 2003 as a neutral title. :) Jwrosenzweig

Except that that would be an inaccurate title, seeing as how the article remained descriptive of the Iraqi military through parts of 2003. :) How about Military of Iraq prior to 2003 US Occupation or some variation? --Dante Alighieri 19:00, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Actually, why even move it to a new article? Just go ahead and make the information current and move the existing stuff down to a heading called "History of Military of Iraq" or something... --Dante Alighieri 23:41, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)

[edit] CITATION

Concur. Whoever said that must have been counting as part of the Iraq Army every Iraqi who was left over from the Iran-Iraq and Desert Storm debacles.. Point of fact, there was really no Iraqi army to speak of after Desert Storm; many of the Iraqis who were commanded out to block US tanks with their bodies during that invasion had no weapons, no uniforms or shoes, and no desire to fight anybody following their disastrous row with Iran. (This, btw, is the original trauma of decorated veteran Timothy McVeigh. As they rolled into central Iraq in 1991, even the mythical "elite Republican Guard" was MIA.)

Before the 2003 Bush invasion many of us recall Saddam's radio message to the Iraqi farmers to pick up their pitchforks and clubs and defend the Motherland.. During the 2003 invasion we never saw the likes of ANY Iraqi army, navy, air force, and neither did anyone we know.. This may have been the result of media censorship by the DoD, but it would be hard to convince a 'neutral observer' that any Iraqi military was there to be bombed.

It was pitiful that the US had to stage photographs of derelict warplanes buried under sand near Tikrit as evidence that Iraq had an "air force."

It looked to us then, and it does now, that Bush's Air Force simply bombed and strafed enough Iraqi civilian targets to make it appear to the yellow press that a "war" was occurring, while the US Army moved in to overtake Iraqi oil wells (first order of business), which they inspected, repaired and put under guard, all with little or no opposition. Stan Battles 15:13, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed Merger

I disagree with the merger proposed. If any merger should take place, it should be the reverse, Military of Iraq into Iraqi Security Forces. The Iraqi army, air forces, navy, Iraqi Police, fire departmets, Oil Protection Force, and Specail Infastructure Battalions are all components of the Iraqi Security Force. They are almost all listed as sections on the Iraqi Security Forces page. I propose this article be merged into the New Iraqi Army article, not the other way around. K 46R A 09:44, 23 January 2007 (UTC)