Talk:Military flying saucers

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The mention of Lockheed and Convair disks seem all too similar to the Avro efforts, which are well documented. Can anyone provide further evidence of these projects? Or were they simply paper projects based on Frost's work at Avro.

Contents 1 Original research tag added 2 This is wrong 3 Russian flying saucers? 4 Picture? 5 Moved from article 6 Merge? 7 UFO Inspired Military Flying Saucers

[edit] Original research tag added

I have added an original research tag because of the claims that military flying saucers 'probably' used an 'emg drive', such a thing does not exist. (it is a claim for something created by aliens not our government, gravity and em fields are unrelated) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.200.6.194 (talk) 22:43, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This is wrong

The whole article is wrong. Firstly In most cases the designer chose the disk wing primarily because they liked it, as opposed to any aerodynamic reasons. Is wrong because there are very good reasons for saucer shape. Firstly they are invisible to radars. Secondly as they rise they create low air pressure at the top of the saucer and high air pressure at the bottom so there is extra lift. Flying saucers which were designed to be manned were actually being manufactured in a Skoda factory in Prague. So, this article needs lots of work.

FYI, this is called the Coanda effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coanda_effect)

--perfectblue 18:13, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Russian flying saucers?

according to this site: http://englishrussia.com/?p=810 the soviets experimented with flying saucers in the 50s. anyone know anything about this worth adding to the article? user:vroman

[edit] Picture?

This page could really be improved by a picture. Whursey 07:07, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Moved from article

A nonmilitary 1930's "Flying Saucer" Since there are no articles on civilian Flying Saucers, this noteworthy aircraft is being mentioned here. In the book: "Airplanes of the World 1490 - 1976", by Douglas Rolfe and Alexis Dawydoff, (1978), 482 pages; on page 195, there is a drawing of an aircraft named "Flying Saucer". It was built between 1934 and 1935 by Miami University and nothing else is written about it. The aircraft has a fuselage with a propeller in front, a tail in the back, two wheels underneath the front, a landing skid under the tail, and a large disc on the top of the plane. There are No wings extending from the middle of the aircraft to give it lift. There are two small wings extending from the tail to give it control. All of the aircraft in the book are represented by drawings.

Seemed a shame to just delete this, but it sounds like a mistake. --Guinnog 13:50, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I have a copy of the book "Airplanes of the World 1490 -1976" by Douglas Rolfe and Alexis Dawydoff, published in 1978 by Simon and Schuster, New York. On page 195 there is a drawing of an aircraft entitled "Flying Saucer" and the sentence: "This unusual-looking airplane was built by Miami University." According to the book, it was made between 1934 and 1935. It is not a mistake, although, the plane looks more like an AWACS vehicle with a disc on top and no wings extending from the middle of aircraft, and not a circular shape tradional 'flying saucer'. On page 272, the book shows a drawing of the Chance Vought 173, and a drawing of the CV XF5U-1 "Flying Flapjack"; and on page 349, they have a drawing of the Avro VZ-9V Avrocar, (which led to the British SRN-1 air-cushion, hovercraft). Three tradional shaped 'flying saucers'.24.195.246.174 01:50, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Bennett Turk

[edit] Merge?

This article contains very little information, and most of what it does contain is false. Can we merge it to another one? --Guinnog 18:03, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Good idea. This page is supposed to detail those few genuine and documented aircraft that were made of ordinary materials and propelled by engines similar to those of winged aircraft or helicopters. The reasons why they aren't heard of anymore are that they didn't fly as well, or have as good stealth characteristics, as aircraft with more commonplace wings. (Must I repeat: the USAF spent thousands of millions on the stealth program –- if saucers had stealth characteristics, the B-2 and F-117 would be saucers.) The fantasies are supposed to go elsewhere. -- [Used to be Sobolewski] 64.69.127.105 (talk) 22:11, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] UFO Inspired Military Flying Saucers

There is a considerably amount of literature that could evince the existence of covert projects to replicate the performance of flying saucers. That material should have been cited in this article. Tcisco 19:17, 8 March 2007 (UTC)