Talk:Military Revolution

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[edit] Expansion of this article

This article needs to be expanded. It barely touches on the ideas of today's scholarship reguarding the military revoltuion. The inclusion and discussion of the theories of Michael Roberts, Clifford Rogers, and Geoffrey Parker would improve the quality of this article. Askelly 07:37, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree. I'm going to add a reference, Parker's book "The Military Revolution", hoping that it will point someone in the right direction.

Also, tbh, "During the Thirty Years War, it took time for the military leaders to realize that the art of warfare had changed dramatically in just a couple hundred years and older medieval tactics were obsolete when fighting with muskets." makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I may be tempted to work on this myself, perhaps using Parker's book and some of my notes on lectures on this subjects. But this is not exactly my favourite topic and I don't seem to have much time, so if someone else wants to, please have a go at it. ;) Skeptic77 23:13, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I would also like to add that this article does not really touch on any challenges to the notion of a military revolution. After all the view that a 'revolution' occured is not widely accepted (look at the work of Jeremy Black for instance).

I have deleted the old article and I have written a completely new article on the subject, including the more relevant bibliography.

Aryaman13 —Preceding comment was added at 17:52, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

May I suggest that the title be changed to reflect the time of the military revolution, since there arguably have been several such revolutions?

A general question as a side note: I wrote an extensive comment on the talk page for "SOF Mafia", an article that was suggested for speedy deletion. In that comment, I did address conceptual revolutions both with SOF and the "maneuvrists" (which includes John Boyd, the network-centric transformation people, etc.) Are there articles where these (not totally unrelated, and partially cotemporaneous) should go?Howard C. Berkowitz 18:53, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article issues

I have added a template pointing out the article's grammatical errors (e.g., run-on sentences), style issues (occasionally close to "peacock" usage, as in writing out "id est"), use of undefined technical terms, and the possibility of original research. This last concern applies mainly to the two "discussion" sections, in which e.g. an editor categorizes types of sources and introduces the term "Overall Army." But it could also be applied to the manner in which opinions are offered up of the alleged state of the military revolution thesis. The whole piece is too much like an essay rather than an encyclopedia article.

I'll jump in as time permits, but there's work for many hands. -- Rob C. alias Alarob

[edit] WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008

Article reassessed and graded as start class. Referencing and appropriate inline citation guidelines not met. With appropriate citations and references, this article would easily qualify as B class is not higher. --dashiellx (talk) 15:29, 22 May 2008 (UTC)