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[edit] The name is wrong.

The name is wrong. What is the deal? It is MACV (militairy assistance command vietnam)SOG (SPECIAL OPERATIONS GROUP) MACV-SOG 75.90.230.90 (talk) 12:59, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Both are correct. Studies and observation group was the unclassified cover name. Special operations group was the classified name. Remember, it didn't actually report to COMUSMACV either. A truly correct name would have been Special Assistant for Counterinsurgency and Special Activities Special Operations Group, which truly would be special. Howard C. Berkowitz (talk) 23:01, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Berkowitz is correct, as far as I know, the name "Studies and Observations Group" was changed at the time cross border missions were discontinued, to TAG (Training Advisory Group) in early 1971. The names of the Command & Control subunits (CCN, CCS, & CCC) were then changed to Task Force unit acronyms, i.e., ("Command & Control North" CCN = "Task Force One Advisory Element" TF1AE). Dr. B. R. Lang (talk) 16:54, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

• Special Operations Group was the original title of the organization. This moniker, however, would have posed a quandry when listed in the MACV table of organization (remember the quote concerning "military intelligence"?). It was altered soon after the establishment of the organization in Saigon in 1964.4.255.214.12 (talk) 10:30, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Australian's in the unit

There were several Australian's in this unit. I'm pretty sure they were from the Special Air Service Regiment. Somebody might want to add something with a source, so it's not just my memory. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.238.55 (talk) 10:33, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

• According to all extant sources, all participants were Americans, Taiwanese (pilots for Timberwork operations), South Vietnamese (straight up, Montagnards, or ethnic Chinese Nungs), or ethnic Cambodians. Sorry, no Aussies. 4.255.214.12 (talk) 10:25, 25 April 2008 (UTC)