Talk:Miley Cyrus discography

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1 Purpose of this page
2 RIAA certification info on Billboard 200 chart
3 RIAA certification
4 Keep It This Way
5 Keep It This Way Also
6 new album

[edit] Purpose of this page

Why was this content removed from the Miley Cyrus article? I do not see any purpose served by separating out this particular information.--NrDg 19:14, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

No justification given for split so merged back into main article. --NrDg 22:50, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RIAA certification info on Billboard 200 chart

This was asked on my page about the Hannah Montana 2: Meet Miley Cyrus album but I think an explanation is in order here as well:

I was just wondering. You mentioned that Billboard.com cites the article as being certified 3x platinum with the source pointing here. However, the album has a '2' next to the triangle, indicating that it is 2x platinum. Unless I'm missing something, could you please verify where you got the info on 3x platinum? Dh993 02:15, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Hover your mouse over the triangle icon for an explanation. For platinum you just see the triangle. The number after the triangle is the ADDITIONAL platinums past the first. That means platinum is just the triangle. A triangle with a 1 is double platinum, a triangle with a 2 is triple platinum. It took me a bit to figure out what was going on. I saw in a web article that Miley was celebrating the latest album going triple platinum, so looked into this. Also sales of 1.5 million double albums counts as 3 million units for RIAA certification purposes so it all checks out as triple platinum. --NrDg 02:26, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

--NrDg 02:55, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RIAA certification

I replaced the cite for RIAA certification data reference with a direct url to the RIAA certification database as I think this data has less chance of being misinterpreted. I changed RIAA certification data to exactly match what the certification database said with no interpretation of meaning. RIAA Certification Database. I think the description in the Billboard table is a Billboard misinterpretation of what the RIAA data means so went right to the definitive source. --NrDg 20:40, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Keep It This Way

Keep "Start All Over" AFTER "Ready, Set, Don't Go" because "Ready, Set, Don't Go" was released about 2 months before "Start All Over". Tcatron565 (talk) 22:56, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Keep It This Way Also

keep the singles seperated cause Hannah Montana 2 and Meet Miley Cyrus are two different Albums, they maybe merged together in one article but THEY ARE TWO SEPERATE ALUM ONES A SOUNDTRACK AND ONES HER DEBUT SOLO ALBUM. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ewigneeo818 (talk • contribs) 03:09, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

No they are not. Show me where I can buy disk2 of the album without buying disk1. The official album names are what must be in these articles. We are not an arm of Disney marketing. We use the official album name that matches what you can buy in the store, what Billboard reports sales numbers on and what RIAA issues gold and platinum certifications against. --NrDg 03:16, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Check RIAA Certification Database for the official names that have got triple platinum. Check the albums they have certified. --NrDg 03:22, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

They are considered as two different albums except for when charting and certificating. The reason is to keep from confusing the public. In this articel, they should be kept separate. Think about this. "See You Again" is by Miley Cyrus, not Hannah Montana. "Nobody's Perfect" is by Hannah Montana, not Miley Cyrus. One is a soundtrack, while one is debut album. They are basically two different albums sold together. Just like finding two DVDs in one packet. However, articles should keep them together except for when listen them on singles. "See You Again" is from the Meet Miley Cyrus album, and not the Hannah Montana 2 part of the album. It's like Back to Basics from Christina Aguilera. "Candyman" is from the second CD, however, they are the same CD. For this, they are two different artists with two different types of music. Keep them separate when listing what album the singles came from. Tcatron565 (talk) 21:21, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I strongly disagree. It is NOT considered 2 albums by anyone except Disney marketing trying to create an illusion to push Miley Cyrus's career. RIAA is official and considers it 1 album. Soundscan and Billboard track it as one album. Certifications are against this one album. It is one album with two disks and that is how it is sold in the store. The wiki article must reflect the reality of the situation. It is confusing in the article to give a name to something that does not really exist. There is no album that you can buy called "Meet Miley Cyrus" and it should not be portrayed as such in the article. What I would find acceptable is to list the entry as "Hannah Montana 2: Meet Miley Cyrus (Disk 2 Meet Miley Cyrus)" as is listed in the album article. --NrDg 21:50, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

That is way too long. Do NOT do that. That's worse than the other two combined. They are two different albums packaged and sold as one. And besides it's disc, not disk. The album is called Hannah Montana 2: Meet Miley Cyrus. However, they are two different CDs. Why is that so hard to get? They are two albums sold in one package. They are by two different artists and should be kept separate when listing the singles. Billboard and RIAA count them as one because that's the only way you can buy it. However, you can take one out and keep it while re-selling the other one. You can even go onto iTunes and only get the Meet Miley Cyrus part and not the Hannah Montana 2 part. Tcatron565 (talk) 23:10, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Or we could list it as Disc 1: Hannah Montana 2 or Disc 2: Meet Miley Cyrus. It's shorter, and gets point out without harming anyone. Tcatron565 (talk) 23:12, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually it is not available as separate albums on iTunes - I checked. You buy the dual album and get 20 tracks for $15 or buy individual tracks. RIAA lists the artist on the album as "CYRUS, MILEY AS HANNAH MONTANA" so she basically gets official artist credit for all of the album, the real artist gets credit, not the role. I perfectly understand how Disney is marketing this album - that is not what is actually being sold and measured. I disagree with the article reflecting Disney marketing propaganda. I have the album, I see how the two discs are labeled and that all it is - labels on the separate discs of a two disc album. I also have the first album with two items, one labeled Audio CD and the other Music Video DVD. This is no different, just labels. If you buy "See You Again" from iTunes the info for the song says "Hannah Montana 2 - Meet Miley Cyrus" as the album it is from. An album called "Meet Miley Cyrus" does not officially exist. The article must reflect the reality of the situation.

As to how to handle the labeling in the article (sorry for the typo in my attempt to compromise), I am open to anything that does not look like there is a separate album called "Meet Miley Cyrus". Disc 2: Meet Miley Cyrus does that but the table entry is looking for an album name. Hannah Montana 2: Meet Miley Cyrus (Disc 2) would work for me, though and communicate which part of the album the song is on if you think the full label is too long. I thought the second line with the label on was esthetically OK, though, so still prefer that. Sometimes on a compromise, nobody gets what they really want. --NrDg 23:54, 6 April 2008 (UTC)