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[edit] 2004 edits

Is there any connection between the Irish Milesians (Sons of Mil Espaine or Milesius) and the Greek Milesians (presumably followers of Miletus)? There is some entanglement of these two uses between Wikipedia articles that should be straightened out with either a disambiguation page or a combined article. -- Jeff Q 07:28, 7 May 2004 (UTC)

It's my understanding now that the Irish Milesians and the Greek Milesians are two different peoples. Therefore, unless people object, I plan to rename this article Milesians (Irish) and establish a disambiguation page for Milesians that will include links to the appropriate different pages. I will also update all existing links to this Irish Milesian page at that time so all other references will directly jump to the new Milesians (Irish) article. -- Jeff Q 07:38, 20 May 2004 (UTC)

What Celtic tribe did the Gaels originate from in Spain? Is that known? Is there an article about them?

[edit] Succession Box

Would the succession box not be better at the bottom of the page, instead of half way? Other articles on 'Wiki' have the boxes at the bottom, keeps it more uniform. Culnacréann Ireland 23:22, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Brigantia

The ancient Celtic Brigantes and Gallaecians inhabited the whole northeastern corner of the peninsula, including the areas of A Coruna and Bragança. However a Coruna is mentioned in local Celtic folklore- According to Gaelic legend embodied in the 11th-century compilation Lebor Gabala Erren— the "Book of Conquests"— King Breogán, the founding father of the Galician Celtic nation, constructed here a massive tower of such a grand height that his sons could see a distant green shore from its top. The glimpse of that distant green land lured them to sail north to Ireland. A colossal statue of Breogán has been erected near the Tower. Later in Roman times, a tower was built in A Coruna, likely in the same place of a previously existing structure (whose construction they ascribed to Hercules).

In Galicia it is commonly said that the Tower of Hercules is the Tower of Breogan (our mythical founder figure). His son Ith, then sailed from Brigantia to Ireland. See gl:Ith (in Galician). Are there similar tales going around in Portugal? I never heard of any. Naturally Galician and Northern Portuguese people are both descended from ancient Celtic tribes, and there were towns called Brigantia in what is today either country. But the Brigantium that today is A Coruna is on the sea directly south of Ireland, whereas Bragança is almost 200km inland. How could Ith have "sailed from Brigantia" if it was 200km from the sea?. If you want to see new land beyond the sea, do you build a tower by the said sea, or do you build it 200km inland?

As a side note, google Breogan Coruña and you get 304.000 hits, do it with Breogan Bragança and you get only 193 hits. Which is the obscure theory?

Some links from the web:

84.90.16.160 20:55, 15 April 2007 (UTC)