User talk:Miketwardos

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Contents 1 Papervision3d 2 Speedy deletion of Ed grothus 3 Complex fluids 4 AfD nomination of Surfspot 5 Surf spot

[edit] Papervision3d

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[edit] Speedy deletion of Ed grothus

A tag has been placed on Ed grothus requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

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[edit] Complex fluids

I noticed that you are the creator of the page on Complex fluids. I have been searching for sources, and as yet have been unable to find any. Perhaps you could help me improve the article? I personally find it an interesting read, but there is not much information. Also it needs work with wikification, style, and other such things. Otherwise I will probably redirect it to Non-Newtonian fluid, which I'd like not to do if it can stand on its own. -FrankTobia (talk) 20:04, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for those links on complex fluids! I plan on working on the article whenever time permits. Of course, with my meager knowledge of the subject, I'll probably just work on formatting issues and sourcing whatever I can find. Is the study of complex fluids a relatively new field? Also, I would like to lay out comparisons between complex fluids and Non-Newtonian fluids, since I'm not really sure myself. Thanks again for your help! -FrankTobia (talk) 14:15, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Surfspot

I have nominated Surfspot, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Surfspot. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. —Moondyne 13:18, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Surf spot

I'm sorry the article you created on surf spots got deleted. If you're willing to put time and effort into the problems addressed at its afd, I'm sure it can satisfy anyone's criteria for being included in Wikipedia. I'll try to summarize why it was deleted, and what you can do to make such an article better in the future. The main issue is that the article sounded like original research (I recommend reading the policy if you're not familiar with it, since it's one of Wikipedia's core tenets, and it's a big reason why articles get deleted). In this case it means that the article shouldn't sound like you came up with it yourself: you need to demonstrate that what's in the article has been published somewhere else first. Some other issues were: no sourcing, written like an essay, and not wikified at all. These weren't the reasons for deletion, but it sort of contributed to the consensus for deletion.

Here are my suggestions: find one or more reliable sources that discuss surf spots, what they are, and why they are important. Use these sources to support the next article you write. Try to make the writing sound like an encyclopedia article, rather than a personal essay. This one can be kind of tough; I suggest reading through some featured articles to get an idea of what encyclopedia articles should sound like. Always try to adhere to a neutral point of view. Wikification helps make an article look more "professional"; I can always lend a hand with the more mundane aspects of formatting, so let me know.

My advice going forward is this: start rewriting the page within your user space, for example, at User:Miketwardos/Surf spot. This is called WP:Userfication and it can be used to get an article up to certain quality standards before you introduce it back into the mainspace, so that it doesn't get deleted again. You can ask an administrator on his talk page to view the surf spot page before it was deleted and ask him to copy it there. Then work on the page to address all the issues in its previous AFD. When you think it's ready, ask around a bit to see if people still think it has issues, and if not move it back to surf spot.

You might also want to consider adding surf spots as a heading to the surfing article, rather than have it be an article in its own right. That's entirely a judgment call, but it might be the right move. In either case you can use userfication beforehand to make sure your work doesn't get deleted again.

Let me know if you have any questions. Happy editing :) -FrankTobia (talk) 14:28, 8 February 2008 (UTC)