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[edit] Avalon Hill

I'm glad you think the article on Avalon Hill is in good shape. If you look at the beginning of the talk page, you'll see some discussion about the introduction of the hexagonal grid. Were you around at AH way back then? or did you pick up any information on the subject from other employees' reminiscing? By the way, let me point out one of the tips Alphax gave you (no one expects you to pick up all of our Wikiways immediately): You can sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). It's easier than typing "Mike", and it creates an automatic link to your user page, plus a time stamp, which is often helpful in keeping track of a discussion JamesMLane 08:40, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Golden Nugget

You appear to be correct. See how the new wording is. The old wording did not give me a clue about it being the largest on display. I think the new wording clears this up. Thanks. Vegaswikian 05:08, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Garfield

I'm sorry. I just realized I never replied to your post on the Talk page for GHS. I think that updating the article with athletics and academic info is best left to InsaneInside, a current student, but working on the red links could be just as easily done by one of us graduates. I have compiled a number of sources for info on notable alum bios, but I haven't had time to write them up yet. If there's someone in particular you'd like to work on, let me know on my talk page or email me. WAvegetarian 07:36, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] football players

Thanks for your good work cleaning up categories. I noticed you moved Brian Dowling (football) to Category:National Football League players. Is there any consensus, I wonder, for dealing with players who, like Dowling, had fairly marginal NFL careers but celebrated college careers? Ryan Fitzpatrick, currently not in any categories, comes to mind. Thanks. Chick Bowen 21:28, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Your categories Category:Yale football and Category:Harvard football are very sensible, and I've been populating at least the Yale one. Still, we don't have all that much (no Larry Kelley, no Carmen Cozza) and combining them into Category:Ivy League football might be sensible. What do you think? Chick Bowen 16:35, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Yes, there's no "move category" button. I recategorized all the articles and listed the Yale and Harvard categories at WP:CFD; they'll be deleted in a week or so. I took the liberty of citing your approval, but of course you're welcome to comment there. I suppose someone might object on the grounds of inconsistency with other college football programs, but I doubt it. Chick Bowen 19:24, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Roller skating

Hi -- thanks for working on the roller skating categories. I think they are a good idea. However, roller skating is two words, not one (just like ice skating is correct, not "iceskating"), so I had to go fix them up a bit. I think it's all fixed at this point, but I thought I should let you know in case you find other pages to add to the category. (I just added a few more myself.) Thanks again! ManekiNeko | Talk 23:11, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hugo Chavez's sports career

You just removed Hugo Chavez's listing in the "Venezuelan sportspeople" category. He belongs in that category because he has played league baseball in Venezuela for many years, and progressed to the Venezuelan National Baseball Championships in 1969 with the Criollitos de Venezuela (and this data is also referenced, which is sadly not the case with your own fallacious edit). If you have any issues with this listing, I suggest you find concrete sources and evidence to back up your claims for why he does not belong their, and present them on the talk page. Regards, Saravask 08:58, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
I must apologiize. I had thought your edit was malicious. Please, in the future, you should explain such edits with an appropriate summary, such as "I am eliminating category 'Venezuelan sportspeople'". This would help significantly in not raising people's suspicions. I reverted myself, so Chavez is no longer in that category and it can be eliminated. Cheers. Saravask 09:08, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thank you for the effort on categorizing many articles recently. Keep up the good work. Shawnc 14:30, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Martial arts practitioners categorization

Some martial arts subcategories have been missing, so we just need to add them and then stuff people into them. Shawnc 15:01, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Regarding Note that this will result in a single entry under the Category:Sportspeople by nationality subcategory of ("X" martial artists)., I presume you meant "Category:Martial arts practitioners by nationality". This is a right idea and will be done soon. Shawnc 23:58, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
I'd appreciate some feedback at Category talk:Martial arts practitioners on an issue. Shawnc 05:53, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

Hi Mike!

I don't know for certain why he targeted you, but I would guess it was because you were in Special:Recentchanges at exactly the same time he was looking there for newly signed-up users in order to fill their user pages with nonsense templates; he saw an edit of yours in RC and decided to hit your user page as well. Happy editing! Antandrus (talk) 21:32, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Working Man's Barnstar

I, Rebelguys2, hereby award you this Working Man's Barnstar for your work on Wikipedia's sports categories.
I, Rebelguys2, hereby award you this Working Man's Barnstar for your work on Wikipedia's sports categories.

I saw, and am a bit in awe, at the immense amounts of work you've put in to fix up Wikipedia sports categories.

I hereby award you this Working Man's Barnstar!

-- Rebelguys2 10:21, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] University of South Carolina

Careful, you'll want to add categories, not replace a useful category[1]. I added it back to the page along with the original categories. Ëvilphoenix Burn! 16:14, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Apologies

None needed. Please see the relevant discussion pages. Thank you for the catch on my user page. I have played around with the links on that part quite a bit. I assume it got deleted during that time. WAvegetarian (talk) (email) (contribs) 22:48, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] "California Bears" categories

Hey Mike, thanks for all your work. I'm skimmed your last thousand edits, and it's ridiculous, in a good way.

So, are you aware that the Cal teams are actually the Golden Bears? It's the only way they ever refer to themselves, and "california golden bears" gets 2M Ghits while "california bears" gets <100k, indicating that others have followed suit. Admittedly one can be a "Bears fan" or yell "go Bears", or even casually shorten it to "Cal Bears", but if you're going to include "California" I think you have to include "Golden" too.

I hope I'm not beating a dead horse, but I see you've already got "Fighting Illini", "Nittany Lions", and "Young Cougars" as well. Melchoir 18:33, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Hmm... tough choice, but I think brevity wins on this one. "Cal Bears football" is just fine. Melchoir 19:14, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Cal Santa Cruz Banana Slugs football players

Hi Mike. Like you pointed out, we should try our best to check the college categorizations when we go through to drain Category:National Football League players. I'm not starting in on that beast for a few days at least, but I'm thinking ahead and wondering how many more college categories you have in mind. I know you have some stopping point in mind since you chose to combine the ivy league. I chipped in with Ohio State and Boston College, but those are obvious. Which schools do you suggest we not make categories for?

And for the alums of those schools w/o categories, should we consider dumping them in some other generic category like Category:college football players from god-awful teams or clutter-up Category:college football players with individual players? It'd be a pain in the ass, but at least it'd give us a handle on those players for the future. -Meegs 23:55, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hawaii Warrior player

I know! Is it true that I have to go through Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion to fix it? ×Meegs 02:47, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

(more on :User talk:Meegs#Hawaii)

[edit] College basketball

Good point. You can go ahead and recommend the UConn men's and women's categories for deletion. I'll merge the included articles into a single supercategory. — Dale Arnett 23:14, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Said and done. You can recommend not only the separate categories for the men's and women's programs, but also the separate categories for the men's and women's players. I just merged all the players into a single "UConn Huskies players" category. — Dale Arnett 23:24, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] College basketball update

I listed the UConn men's and women's categories on the CFD page at this location. However, it looks like the people who've posted so far want the categories split. Think you could weigh in on it on the discussion page?  :) — Dale Arnett 06:07, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Gary Barnett

Thought you might like to know that the copyright problem was removed and the temp page is now up as the article. .:.Jareth.:. babelfish 14:51, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Football categories

I tracked them down. Another admin had done the renaming, but had apparently forgotten to move the contents of the original category there - thus the category technically worked, but the category didn't exist because it was never edited. I think I fixed it all. Thanks for letting me know. K1Bond007 04:59, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Dallas Texans

Ok, category man, we need two categories for teams named the Dallas Texans in Category:National_Football_League_players_by_team. They are both going to have a lot of players, so they should both be qualified (ideally in a way that sets them apart from the Arena team too). In addition to (AFL)/(NFL), I'm considering (1952)/(1960s) — as in Category:Dallas Texans (1960s) players — which would probably make their use easier for non-historians. I'll speedy the existing category. Any opinion? ×Meegs 10:46, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fire & Movement

Thanks for the edit on Fire & Movement Magazine! Michael Dorosh 17:47, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] John Henry Johnson was an American football

I just realized that that was me! ×Meegs 17:49, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

You're categorizing Maurice Clarett with the Broncos?? I'm always excluding players that don't play a down for the team, let alone people like Mo that never even joined the practice squad. Is it just because he made a lot of news with the Broncos? I'd be fine with that, but otherwise we need to coordinate our criteria for category membership. ×Meegs 13:06, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks/rosters

I just wanted to thank you for all the hard work you've done on disambiguation for the NFL rosters. --Arcadian 03:55, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Baseball on Wikicities

Hello Mike Selinker, Googie Man here and I want to ask you something as a fellow baseball fan on Wikipedia. Jimbo and Angela have made a new webstie called Wikicities. This link in particular will take you to the baseball Wikicity. As you'll see it's similar to Wikipedia, but my hope is this will allow baseball fans to do more and different things, like reporting on games, in depth statistics, create mulitple pages for pictures, and whatever else baseball fans care to create. You've done great work on Wikipedia and I was hoping you could help get this baseball Wikicity off the ground. Please let me know what you think either at my talk page, or you can email me at terry@wikia.com. Thanks! Googie Man(Talk), 22:25, 6 January 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Rugby in the United States

I'm not sure whether you are aware that rugby union and rugby league are two different sports. The difference between th two of them is bigger than that between American football and Canadian football. It doesn't make much sense to put them in one category.GordyB 17:41, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No Banana Slugs yet

The Youngstown State Penguins
The Youngstown State Penguins

...but you've brought us across the 150-mark in college football categories, and I understand you're working on basketball too now. You're a machine. ×Meegs 17:45, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] College Coaches

What do you think, should there be coach categories for every football program we've hit, or should we just dump them all in the football program cat (I used to only do that for head coaches, btw)? It'd be a little weird to have some cats contain a bunch of position coaches (that went on to greater fame elsewhere) and no head coaches. One thing I've always hated doing is adding players who later coach at their alma mater to both the —football cat and the —football players categories. Sometimes I'm so self-conscious that I leave HTML comments to indicate that it's not a redundancy. ×Meegs 17:16, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

  • more questions for the Ole Ball Coach at User talk:Meegs#coachin' 'em up ×Meegs 19:23, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
  • and more ×Meegs 20:22, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
  • more ×Meegs 21:38, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
  • If you come across any coaches for old NFL teams or team names, make a category for them. I'm deferring the decision to fork-off non-name-changing AFL teams until later (unlike the players cats, these will be reasonably-sized, so it's not a big deal to wait). All the different Cardinals cities have separate cats, though, and other team names that lasted a long time should too. ×Meegs 21:52, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Damn it! I've had two edit conflicts with you in the last 5 minutes. Stop working so fast. ×Meegs 10:06, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
  • By the way, I processed Category:American Football League coaches too, but decided to leave them in there (even though many who should be there aren't). I also did a quick census, and is least one coach under each AFL name entity except the Dolphins, but I've decided for the time-being that having such tiny cats would just be obnoxious. There is no NY Titans cat, and I'm going to merge the Tenn Oilers & Titans such that the overall convention is one coaches cat per franchise × city (i.e. name and league changes don't create a separate cat). ×Meegs 03:27, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
    • The question is, is anyone not categorized in NFL coaches, and the answer seems to be no. So I feel that additional subcategorization isn't really necessary.--Mike Selinker 03:32, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Special teams discrimination

Just discovered Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 January 29#Category:American football special-teamers. I know you didn't create punt returners, but it — and to a lesser extent long snappers — are never going to be as complete as the other position cats. I'll use the LS cat whenever get that info, but I'm curious how liberally you are going to include players in the PR cat (and is there going to be a KR cat?). ×Meegs 04:07, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Running Man Barnstar

I know you've already got the Working Man Barnstar, but I'm giving you the Running Man Barnstar for your supreme work in categorizing everything football. Anthony 18:19, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bill Austin

Hi there - I noticed you recently added Bill Austin to Category:Oregon State University football players. I was unsure if these two people are in fact the same, and was reluctant to add him to the category. I tried to Google it, but didn't come up with much. The years the OSU Bill Austin played in the NFL is about 6 years before the coach started coaching, so it is certainly plausable they are the same person, but I still don't know for sure. Were you categorizing him, assuming they were the same person after you saw the "What links here" section, or do you actually have knowledge that these are in fact the same person? If the former, I would err on the side of removing the category as I'm not so sure they are the same person. Perhaps you could aide me in attempting to verify this as well. I looked at the OSU alumni hall of fame and didn't find anything on him, and didn't find much else. VegaDark 23:26, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Upon double checking, he actually is listed in the OSU Hall of Fame. I don't know how I missed him the first time. It does in fact say he was the coach, so looks like we can keep the info. I'll add a bit as well. VegaDark 23:43, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cat Scan

Do you know about about Cat Scan? I just discovered it, but it's going to be very very helpful. ×Meegs 19:56, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Too bad it doesn't handle the complement of a set, or we could find all the NFL players that are missing college cats, etc. ×Meegs 20:26, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Babe Ruth

I'm posting this message on you Talk Page either because you've contributed to the article Babe Ruth, or because you've edited other baseball or sports related articles. I've recently completed a revision of this article at Babe Ruth/rewrite. If you have the time, I'd appreciated it if you'd compare the articles and leave any feedback you might have on the rewrite discussion page. I'd like to reach a consensus before makeing major changes to the main article. Thanks for your help. --djrobgordon 20:32, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Poker

Hi Mike, are you interested in joining us over at WikiProject Poker? Essexmutant 15:39, 10 February 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Sports Wiki

I noticed you were active on many sports pages. My friends and are I starting a sports wiki that you may be interested in. It uses Wikipedia's software but we made a lot of technological improvements to allow for more news and opinion articles. The site is ArmchairGM. We're not "officially" launching until March 6th, but you can feel free to poke around and add content. Let me know if you have any questions. --Roblefko 04:19, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Miller Twins Wiki

Feel free to split the miller twins up. May I ask how in the world you knew I made a modification to the miller twins? I haven't publicized them in my userpage. How can you see other people's contributions? --Starze 1:17, 17 February 2006


I understood the history fine, but thanks for the explanation anyways. I misunderstood that you had some way of knowing what people were modifying. Yes in this case you were already watching the miller twins page.


A side question, is there a short tag to say "--Starze 5:36pm, 17 February 2006?" I am manually typing that in now to talk to different people. Thanks again.

Hey thanks for that tilde syntax. Starze 04:13, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] greetings, fellow sports fan

I happened to notice a trail of your edits immediately following those of user:catapult (because catapult is programmed to tell me these things). As you used very few edit summaries, I am extremely curious. Is there something we need to talk about, or were there just a bunch of miscategorized articles to start with? It looks like some the categories might have been redundant, and IMO there are way too many categories for the number of articles. I'd really like to have a better idea of what's going on. So if you would reply, I'd greatly appreciate it. — Feb. 22, '06 [04:56] <freakofnurxture|talk>

Basically, here's the plan that's been going on in all the football and basketball categories: Make a team category, create player and coach categories for it, and find all other articles that make sense in it. In player categories, we make sure there's a sport category (say, their pro team) and a nationality category (say, American basketball players). I'm somewhat independently doing the same things elsewhere, so, for example, I rebuilt all the Major League Soccer categories so that coaches and players feed into their teams, and I'm thinking of doing the same for the Negro League baseball teams. I also went through and checked all the "Sports in X" categories to recategorize individuals and teams to this scheme. Overall, there's a sense that ALL sportspeople must have a category that summarizes their sport and nationality (Japanese figure skaters, for example). So a lot of little edits are required. Thoughts? --Mike Selinker 06:13, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Okay, Mike, so I interpret this to mean that your edits were based upon the over-categorized state of many of the articles themselves, rather than upon unstated disapproval of my actions which were to change all Category:[City] sports to Category:Sports in [City], [State] to match the parent categories for each (which usually consisted of Category:[City], [State] and Category:Sports in [State] — struck me as common sense). Sorry if I sounded accusative. — Feb. 23, '06 [00:21] <freakofnurxture|talk>

Ok, cool then. — Feb. 23, '06 [06:10] <freakofnurxture|talk>

[edit] boardgame geek

It's a bit convoluted, but I removed those Dicetower links because, primarilly, they were mass-added to about 25 articles by someone who had contributed no content to the project, just the links (twice), so I deemed them spam or at least promotional in some way. I didn't mean to remove the Boardgame Geek link, so I've re-added it. I'm an occasional visitor to BGG myself so I'm a bit biased, but I think BGG links are rather useful in most boardgame articles. --W.marsh 15:38, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] People by occupations category merge

I've withdrawn my proposal because is really that Sports occupations is an Occupations sub-category and should never have been included in the People by occupations page. I still want to rename that People known in connection with sports and hobbies category to something shorter and get hobbies out of it. If you want to talk about what other changes need to be made in the People categories let me know. I'll put this page on my watchlist. --JeffW 15:14, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New York University

Although the school mascot of NYU is the Bobcat, the teams are nicknamed the Violets. see: NYU Athletics web site --Nelson Ricardo 20:52, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Big Game Hunter

Should be capitalized - Name of profession/person

Before you move an article please use the Talk page first SirIsaacBrock 10:14, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TV poll is now closed

The poll is now closed so I reverted your changed, but you may want to see the follow-up discussion and proposed guideline which was a product of the poll. In particular you may want give a stamp of approval at the bottom section --Reflex Reaction (talk)• 01:12, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:AFL

Hi mate, I suggest you take a look at WikiProject AFL if you love your footy, and also Category:VFL/AFL players. Drop us a line with any questions mate. Cheers, Rogerthat Talk 10:34, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Better To Write Articles

Hallo,

Torturing words and debating meaningless minutia is a waste of wiki resources; doing research and making a meaningful contribution to articles are the best unwritten wiki policies -:) BTW please stop spamming my user talk page, things like that get you blocked. Cordially SirIsaacBrock 11:55, 1 March 2006 (UTC)