User talk:Mike Schneider (polka bandleader)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[edit] Welcome!

Hello, Mike Schneider (polka bandleader)! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! Dreamy \*/!$! 20:29, 31 August 2007 (UTC) Getting started Wikipedia tutorial • The five pillars of Wikipedia • Getting mentored How to: edit a page • upload and use images Getting help Frequently asked questions • Tips Where to ask questions or make comments Request administrator attention Policies and guidelines Neutral point of view • No original research Verifiability • Reliable sources • Citing sources What Wikipedia is not • Biographies of living persons Manual of Style • Three-revert rule • Sock puppetry Copyrights • Policy for non-free content • Image use policy External links • Spam • Vandalism Deletion policy • Conflict of interest • Notability The community Build consensus • Resolve disputes Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette No personal attacks • No legal threats Community Portal • Village pump Signpost • IRC channels • Mailing lists Writing articles Be bold in editing • Develop an article The perfect article • Manual of style Stubs • Categories • Disambiguation Pages needing attention • Peer review Miscellaneous User name • User pages • Talk pages Clean up: General - Spam - Vandalism Join a WikiProject • Translation Useful templates • Tools • User scripts

[edit] Conflict of Interest

If you have a close connection to some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Mike Schneider (polka bandleader), you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred from the tone of the edit and the proximity of the editor to the subject, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:

1. editing articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with,
2. participating in deletion discussions about articles related to your organization or its competitors,
3. linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam);

   and you must always:

4. avoid breaching relevant policies and guidelines, especially neutral point of view, verifiability, and autobiography.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have conflict of interest, please see Wikipedia:Business' FAQ. For more details about what constitutes a conflict of interest, please see Wikipedia:Conflict of Interest. Thank you. Royalbroil 05:06, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I think that your article has taken the wrong direction. I think that there should be TWO articles. One article about you: stating that you are the bandleader of this notable band, birthdate, awards that you personally won outside of the band, prior bands (if any), high school/college, hometown, etc. The second article should be about the band, and it should include all things about the band, which is the overwelming majority of the current article. The person and the band need to be categorized differently.

Also, you need to change your userpage. Your userpage is a cut and paste job of your article, which does not comply with guidelines (see Wikipedia:User page). According to the section WP:UP#NOT, your userpage should not be "A weblog recording your non-Wikipedia activities". You appear to have a userpage that is a full length article on you and your band. It is permitted to have a limited amount of personal information: "Also note that a limited amount of personal information (perhaps a short biography) and a freely licensed (never fair use) tasteful personal photograph or two are usually allowed on a user's page in order to show the user's human side, but only if the page complies with other Wikipedia policies." Please tone down your userpage, or I will nominate it for deletion as I believe that your current userpage is promotion for your band. I'll give you have one week from Sunday midnight. Royalbroil 05:06, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for your Comments

Thanks for your feedback regarding the article I submitted. I'm brand-new to Wikipedia and have a lot to learn yet. I've separated the pages as you suggested, placing all information pertinent to the band on the page for The Mike Schneider Polka Band, and all personal accomplishments and history on the existing page for Mike Schneider (polka bandleader). For now, I've removed everything from my user page and will add to that as I get more familiar with this site.

Please review my changes and let me know if there is any additional action necessary on my part to make these pages compliant.Mike Schneider (polka bandleader) 20:36, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Great job on the articles! I have reviewed them, and I am satisfied that they were both well-written in an objective form. If you have extra time, the Cleveland style National Polka Hall of Fame would be an excellent addition to Wikipedia. Major nationally know acts should also get articles too, and someone will eventually do it if you don't. In any case, keep up the great work! Royalbroil 00:06, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I thought of two things that would improve the chances that these articles are kept. You should reference these articles. List the publication information from reliable sources that substantiate the claims made in these articles. For example, you should list the date, article name, writer, and newspaper name of say an article in the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel which talks about the accomplishments listed. You can find an example of this in the Mario Andretti article that I helped improve to the "Good Article" status. Also, to be considered notable, it is generally considered a requirement to list several sources independent of the subject of the article which have published articles on the subject. It is best to actually use these sources to write the article and kill 2 birds with one stone! Royalbroil 00:26, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Great work on the Mario Andretti article! I have a few sources I am able to cite, but for items such as my appearances on Reitman and Mueller, the only sources I have are the audio clips from six of the interviews I have posted on my website. I also have the acceptance speech for the award I won in 1997. Is there some place I can find more information on citing these types of audio sources, or some prefered method of doing so? Also, the only sources I would be able to cite for all the nominations I list would be the program books for the respective awards shows. Is this acceptable? Thanks again for your help in getting me on the right track! Mike Schneider (polka bandleader) 02:50, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Citing sources says "Inline citations are needed for statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, including contentious material about living persons, and for all quotations." I doubt that noting the appearance by a well-known polka bandleader on a Milwaukee radio station morning show would be challenged, so I wouldn't be too worried. I am surprised to see that Wikipedia:Citation templates does have templates to quote a radio or television programs, should there you go. Your official website would not be considered a reliable source to prove that you are notable, but it probably should suffice to reference the appearance. Note that Wikipedia standards do not allow you to create links to illegal use of copyrighted material, so you probably should not link it to your website. Program books for the award shows should be sufficient for sourcing the award nominations. I'm happy to help! Royalbroil 03:24, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

If any of the images that you uploaded are also used on your website, you should send an email to the Wikimedia Open Ticket Request System (OTRS), which you need to contact with an email account from your official website at permissions-en at wikimedia dot org (coded to deter spammers). Otherwise, you should add some more information about their source. Who took the images? How did you get copyright? The goal is to keep out people uploading images from any copyrighted website that they find. These two articles have really taken shape, and I really doubt that they would be nominated for deletion. Royalbroil 04:23, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

More great advice - I appreciate it! I'll send an email to Wikimedia and also add some additional information on the photos. Thanks also for the great edits to both pages. I will email my contacts at the various Polka Halls of Fame and see about getting articles started for each of them at some point in the not too distant future. At least the seed will be planted!