Talk:Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-3

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[edit] Alexander 'Sasha' Pokryshkin

Even with the MiG-3's limitations, Alexander 'Sasha' Pokryshkin, the second leading Soviet ace of the war with 59 official victories, recorded most of those victories while flying a MiG-3.

I had the idea that Sasha shot down approx 1/3 of its victories with the MiG-3 and the rest with the P-39. Can anyone check this?

Updating the information. Added a bunch more about hte development. --Evil.Merlin 01:39, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

I applaud your ambitious editing, but I have three suggestions. First, you need to offer readers something by which they can understand what the "OKO of zavod No. 1" was. Second, the para. introduced with "These changes included: ..." needs to be better worked out. It would seem to be better rendered as a bulleted list (but some folks object to long lists, especially so close to the start of the article). Third, please add citations for your new material (and for older material which may apply). It's next to impossible for later editors to figure out where it came from and add citations later. The lack of footnotes and references makes it difficult for these articles to be rated higher. Good editing! Askari Mark | Talk 04:33, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Working on it. I've added the Russian and English translations for the various groups involved in the MiG-3's life. I've also cleaned up some of the sections. One other note, when it comes to the guns, the center mounted weapon was/is the Universal'ny Berezina Synkhronny (Universal Berezin Syncronized) or UBS, the UBK is Kryl'evoj, meaning wing mounted. --Evil.Merlin 06:25, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
From the article on Pokryshkin itself: "Pokryshkin started the war flying the Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-3 fighter, in which he scored almost twenty victories. In August of 1942 his regiment, now renamed 16th Guards Fighter Regiment, converted to lend-lease Bell P-39 Airacobras, which despite a persistent myth the Soviets have never used in the ground attack role. Soviet pilots liked this aircraft, and found it quite competitive with the Messerschmitt Bf-109 and superior to the Focke-Wulf FW-190 at the low air combat attitudes common on the Eastern Front. Pokryshkin really enjoyed the 37mm cannon's destructive firepower, and had his own aircraft rigged so that the single button simultaneously fired both the main cannon and the 2 upper nose-mounted .50 caliber machine guns, synchronized to fire through the propellor (airscrew), in addition to the pair of .30 caliber machine guns mounted in each wing, outside the propellor arc and therefore unsynchronized. In his memoirs he describes any enemy aircraft immediately disintegrating upon being hit by the salvo. Pokryshkin and his regiment were repeatedly asked to convert to new Soviet fighters such as the La-5 and Alexander Sergeyevich Yakovlev's Yak fighter series. However Pokryshkin found La-5's firepower insufficient and personally disliked Yakovlev so he never did. Finally, in 1944, he found an aircraft that he was willing to convert to: the Lavochkin La-7. Unfortunately one of his close friends, Soviet 50-kill (31 personal and 19 group) ace Alexander Klubov was killed in a landing mishap while converting to the La-7. The crash was blamed on the malfunction of the plane's hydraulic system. Pokryshkin subsequently cancelled his regiment's conversion, and there are multiple reports that they instead began flying Bell P-63 Kingcobras. By the lend-lease agreement with United States, the Soviet Union was not allowed to use P-63s against Germany; they were given only to be used in the eventual battle with Japan. Thus it is quite understandable that no mention of this appears in any official records. However, personal accounts of German pilots and flak crewmen who encountered P-63s in the skies of Eastern Prussia as well as the memoirs of one of the pilots in Pokryshkin's squadron appear to confirm that fact."Dirk P Broer (talk) 02:27, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Intro too long

The introduction to this article is too long. I think it could do with more sections and restructure the whole article. --Francisco Valverde 16:58, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

  • Working on it. Lets start with this and see what people think. I also managed to finish translating the pilots manual for the MiG-3 as well as some other Russian documentation from the early 40's. I will do my best to get it into the article if it is pertinant. I will also remember to add my references. Sorry about that. --Evil.Merlin 02:11, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Revv-erted

What is the problem with Youtube video links here? 82.131.210.162 19:57, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Youtube videos are usually copyrighted material belonging to someone else. If the owner of the video uploads it to WikiCommons and releases it to the public then it's welcome. Binksternet 21:22, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
But we are not taking it and using it! We are just hyperlink pointing to it, so anybody interested can go to the particulat subpage of Youtube and watch it THERE, NOT here! Youtube owners get all the visitor traffic and associated advertisement revenue so including the link here actually benefits them there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.131.210.162 (talk) 20:04, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MiG-7

Why does MiG-7 redirect here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DFRussia (talkcontribs) 07:10, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

You might want to check the section 'Variants'Dirk P Broer (talk) 02:37, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008

Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 16:57, 21 May 2008 (UTC)