Talk:Mike Barnicle
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i am removing the howie carr discussion, this is not a widely documented or relevant aspect of barnicle's career. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by scranton (talk • contribs) .
- I disagree, a fued between two famous Boston pundits seems notable to me. Gamaliel 21:00, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
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- I second Gamaliels opinion. Furthermore, even if it is not particularly important it still belongs here, we do seek to amass all knowledge and all :) -Lanoitarus (talk) .:. 05:14, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
Heh, I know Barnicle's number, I got to school with his daugther. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Saint-Paddy (talk • contribs) .
Why It is important to record for posterity that the globe reported that someone gAve out the subject of the story's phone number. seems very insignificant to me, especiallay for a stub of one's life that it would merit its own paragargh.21:40, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
On April 13, 2006, Barnicle stated that he was born in Worcester during an interview on 96.9 fm talk with General Bernard Trainor, a Holy Cross College graduate.
I am removing the Howie Carr discussion hopefully once and for all. I agree with Scranton. It's ridiculous and not relevant to Barnicle's career.
Shouldn't the part about being forced to resign over questionable journalistic practices be mentioned in the first paragraph, along with "award winning?" [PLEASE SIGN ENTRIES]
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[edit] Quotation from radio show
[Another user left this on my talk page; I've added quotation coding and moved it to the talk page of this article on Mike Barnicle, where it seems more appropriate. It is a subject for general discussion relating to this article. --NYScholar 16:10, 13 September 2006 (UTC)]
Hi I am wondering about the sourcing, citation issue relating to Mike Barnicle. He said it on his radio show. Is that considered a citation? Should every sentence on his page have asourcing citation comment? "The battle lines are drawn" type statements? I think his radio shows are saved as podcasts but I dont know for how long.
On April 13, 2006, Barnicle stated that he was born in Worcester during an interview on 96.9 fm talk with General Bernard Trainor, a Holy Cross College graduate.
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You need to provide what Wikipedia considers a "reliable citation"--WP:Reliable sources. The general web page for the talk show is Mike Barnicle on WTKK, as far as I can tell. But this "fact" is not a fact unless it is documented as such; you need to provide information about the day and time of the show as well as a quotation from Barnicle showing him saying it that other people can check for accuracy to verify it; or a newspaper article quoting the statement from the show (for example, as an alternative, if there is no transcript or podcast that one can link to so people can hear him say it).
There should, however, be reliable sources with verifiable biographical information about where he was born that would be far better to cite than this statement on his radio broadcast in an interview w/ Trainor that there is no transcript to substantiate. (Don't cite sources that simply repeat what they find in Wikipedia versions or online sources simply copying Wikipedia's content from this article!) Since his bio posted on the webpage for the radio show itself doesn't state his place of birth, perhaps one can find other (non-Wikipedia-based) reliable bios posted elsewhere to give as sources of his place of birth being in Worcester (it's in the first line of the article as though it's fact; check sources for verification if it's in doubt). Look up Worcester as well (He's not listed in the section "Famous citizens" there) and search various non-Wikipedia-based reliable sources for where he was born if in doubt. The reference to the discussion w/ Trainor seems unnecessary if better information that is actually verifiable (WP:Verifiability) is accessible and can be cited and/or linked (following format used in the article; or replaced with better format; see below).
All those external links placed throughout the article would be better given as full citations (incl. authors, titles, places of publication, page refs. &/or links) in notes keyed to a list of References. Whoever provided them can make the revisions. By way of example, I've converted some of the most misleading ones to notes format. I don't have time to do more editing. The full reply here explains the cleanup tag added. Most is cleaned up, but more work still needed in spots. --NYScholar 22:04, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
I still wonder about such a high standard that radio or television broadcasts without full transcripts cannot be used as sourcesScranton 00:14, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
I am quoting from 1998 Globe article: "For Barnicle had the sine qua non, the inimitable voice of the city. Born in Worcester, he grew up in Fitchburg, and went to school at Boston University when it was still a loose confederation of Methodist schools. Having lived in Washington and New York, he returned to Boston to make a living."02:31, 1 June 2007 (UTC)~
[edit] Unsourced quotation removed
[edit] Memorable quotation
Barnicle stated "Not all Muslims are terrorists, but so far, all terrorists have been Moslems" on his radio show Thursday August 10, 2006.[citation needed]
I removed this unsourced section entirely. There is a feature for compiling quotations listed as "sourced" in boxes in Wikipedia articles. This one quotation, which is perhaps more aptly labeled "controversial" instead of "memorable," seems presented in a non-neutral (approving) way, and yet there is really no source given to substantiate and to verify that Barnicle said it or what the context is or what the reaction(s) to it may have been or be. --NYScholar 09:16, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
