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[edit] Badges

The RCAF and RAF Badges are not decorations or awards. They are just emblems, insignias or representations of the Royal Canadian Air Force and the Royal Air Force and are not earned or given out for valor or years of service, etc. They are like a flag, tartan, logo, or even the US Presidential Seal. You mention that it is clearly stated that the badges were earned. I am curious about the source of this information. Just stating it in the article doesn't make it so. -BC 02:40, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

You seem to have a point about Royal Canadian Air Force and the Royal Air Force badges and that can be fixed once more. It was assumed that as in the USAAF and the USAF, pilots earned their "wings". My question then would be, those who were members of the RCAF and RAF as pilots during World War II, did they earn some type of "wings"? Tony the Marine 03:51, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Hey Tony. The RAF and RCAF (and other Commonwealth Air Forces) were given cloth uniform patches ("wings") after they qualified to be pilots or whatever. They were part of the uniform like rank patches and were never removed. You can see a typical WWII RAF/RCAF pilot's wings patch in the picture here: George Beurling. Pilots had a patch with two wings, while other positions such as bomb aimer, air gunner or navigator had similar patches with one wing, and usually a letter or letters (e.g. AG for air gunner) in the center signifying his position. Canada's and Britain's air forces still work that way. The RCAF and RAF badges that you placed in your article are not badges that are sewn onto a uniform and are not associated with any rank, position, honor, or merit award; they are essentially fancy logos that are symbols of the two air forces much like the seal of the USAF. The term "badge" for the air force "logos" is a misnomer; they should be referred to as emblems or insignias. Cheers.--BC 06:28, 12 August 2007 (UTC)