Talk:Miguel Ángel Ruiz

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[edit] Honorifics in article title

I'm reluctant to do this unilaterally (and run the risk of offending religious sensitivities that I probably don't understand), but I suspect this article should be at Miguel Ruiz with the first line reading:

Don Miguel Ruiz...

Like we do for

The Right Honourable Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill...

–Hajor 23:49, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Yes, definitely, make it so. RickK 23:56, Aug 18, 2004 (UTC)

I think this would be fine, but I have found from the What Links Here function that there is also a boxer named Miguel Ruiz. I think that having the article named Don Miguel Ruiz, which is the name by which he is usually known, would be a good way to separate those articles. Academic Challenger 22:16, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I'd lean more towards Miguel Ruiz (shaman) and Miguel Ruiz (boxer), but if he does do business and publish as Don Miguel Ruiz then maybe there's a case for moving it back: Don Juan Matus has set that precedent. (I think having the "Don" not bold in the first line is a good way of driving home the fact that it's an honorific, not part of the name.) My apologies, forget I ever spoke, I recuse myself from further consideration of the matter. –Hajor 01:58, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)

There certainly is precedent for including an honorific in an article title. For another example, see U Thant. -- SwissCelt 20:03, 30 March 2006 (UTC)