Talk:MIFARE

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Is this RFID technology? - Mlaheji 09:01, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes. ISO 14443 defines a type of RFID card, though I wasn't sure how to word this in the introduction. I added a "see also" link to the article anyway. — Christopher (talk) @ 17:50, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

How would a MiFARE card appear to a "standard" RFID reader? And how would a standard RFID card appear to a MiFARE reader? --121.44.248.152 10:50, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, RFID is a method and MIFARE is a standard, so your question doesn't really make sense. There is no "standard" RFID card. 81.215.13.145 14:01, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the Oyster card uses MIFARE standard and not desFIRE as shown in your document. Maybe its just the way its been laid out. User: Anon 00:40, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

May I suggest that you use those terms with care - after all, this is an encyclopedia project and not a blog.

  • "Standard" means a specification that has been ratified and published by a national or international body, like the ISO, IEC, IEEE, NIST, DIN and the like. MIFARE is not a standard, but a proprietary specification. It is very widely used, and the owner (NXP Semiconductors B.V.) has licensed it to other companies. MIFARE references (uses) some standards, e.g. ISO/IEC 14443 type A and ISO/IEC 7816-4.
  • "MIFARE standard" may be used to describe a certain generation of the MIFARE technology, or even a certain silicon chip. However, that term ("MIFARE standard") is so fuzzy it really curls my toenails. If you mean a chip, name the chip. If you mean application, name the application. If you mean a generation, reference the generation.
  • The term "RFID" is paired with a dangerously unspecific concept. RFID is not a standard. The term is often used to label any technology that uses contactless communication powered from the reader device's electromagnetic field, starting from logistics tags (sticker in WalMart warehouse) at the low end and ranging through microprocessors with sophisticated cryptography coprocessors at the high end (electronic passports with BAC/EAC). The term "RFID" tricks you into believing that these very different things are similarly complex and similarly "secure" (or "unsecure", depending on the point of view). This is far from being the case, however. May I suggest to replace "RFID" with a more exact description - like "ISO 14443 contactless communication", "contactless chip card" or the like. --Himbeerkuchen (talk) 14:52, 16 January 2008 (UTC)