Talk:Midnight Cowboy

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

	Film Portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Films. This project is a central gathering of editors working to build comprehensive and detailed articles for film topics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.
Start This article has been rated as Start-Class on the quality scale. High This article has been rated as High-importance on the priority scale.
Editing Guidelines Please remember these guidelines when editing a film article: If a non-film article already exists with the name of the film that you are trying to create an article for, disambiguate and use (film) in the title: Film Title (film) For more information see: Wikipedia:Naming conventions (films) When writing an article about a particular film, the general format should be a concise lead section, followed by a plot summary of no more than 900 words, production details, a cast list, a reception section, and references. Create an Infobox that tells all pertinent information about the film.
Additional Information: This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-Class status: Referencing and citation: not checked Coverage and accuracy: not checked Structure: not checked Grammar: not checked Supporting materials: not checked To fill out this checklist, please add the following to the template call: <!-- 1. It is suitably referenced, and all major points are appropriately cited. --> |B-Class-1=yes/no <!-- 2. It reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain major omissions or inaccuracies. --> |B-Class-2=yes/no <!-- 3. It has a defined structure, including a lead section and one or more sections of content. --> |B-Class-3=yes/no <!-- 4. It is free from major grammatical errors. --> |B-Class-4=yes/no <!-- 5. It contains appropriate supporting materials, such as an infobox, images, or diagrams. --> |B-Class-5=yes/no

	LGBT Portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject LGBT studies, which tries to ensure comprehensive and factual coverage of all LGBT related issues on Wikipedia. For more information, or to get involved, visit the project page.
Start	This article has been rated as Start-class on the quality scale.

Contents 1 Where's that Joe Buck? 2 X Rating 3 Recent Changes 4 Entourage 5 What? 6 Helps if you read the book 7 Implied Homosexuality

[edit] Where's that Joe Buck?

I'm really not sure that I agree that Joe Buck "comes to terms with his sexuality" during the movie, or even that he's clear on what his sexuality is at all. User:Moncrief, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I saw the movie the other day, and I agree. I just replaced that line with a slightly more informative plot overview. ... ah, looks like I wasn't logged in, but anyway... Ed Halter 20:25, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Was this really 'X' rated? HighInBC 01:56, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

• Just look at the poster. (Ibaranoff24 20:33, 1 July 2006 (UTC))

It would be nice if the article included some mention of why it was considered great enough to win Best Picture, unless it's just that the performances and that Talkin' song are good. 70.248.232.127 00:35, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] X Rating

yes, the film was originally x-rated and the director approved the rating. this is also the only film to win an academy award with an x rating. these and many other facts can be found in uncle john's legendary lost bathroom reader under the article accidentally x rated. page 632 i believe. or if you simply have the seventh reader (although not many people do) you can find it in there too.

[edit] Recent Changes

I notice that the passage regarding Joe's story in the film has been changed, with a statement that some of the things didn't happen in the film. One of the things that was removed was that Annie and Joe were raped in the parked car scene; that did in fact occur in the film, Joe was thrown over the hood of the car, and Annie was seen being pursued and captured, with the suggestion of an assault obviously.

There was also a scene with Annie with the police pointing at Joe saying 'He was the one, he was the only one' - I took it that he'd then been run out of town rather than prosecuted for a rape allegation (of which he was innocent).

Thanks for a good article by the way Gomez2002 15:01, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Entourage

Someone could add the quotes/references from Entourage to the list of references. 128.113.146.196 08:17, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What?

Are we really going to enumerate every time someone says "Hey, I'm walkin' here!" in any other film or TV show? What a waste of time and effort. 24.243.187.152 14:56, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Helps if you read the book

If the person who claimed that Sally Buck had some kind of "improper" relationship with Joe, and other things they detailed about Joe's relationship with Crazy Annie, had actually read the book, they would have known better. The dream sequence mixed Joe's real memories with his present-day fears and worries. Childhood spankings can be traumatic, especially when the person giving them does so coolly, as Sally did in Joe's dream. Being caught intimate with one's girlfriend and roughly separated would be about as traumatic, so naturally they could become associated in one's own thoughts. It doesn't mean Joe had any prior sexual relationship with anyone, much less his grandmother. The big tipoff should have been when Ratso is seen among the gathered crowd as Joe and Crazy Annie are being taken away. Zephyrad 08:17, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Implied Homosexuality

"Nothing in the film hints at any type of homosexual relationship between Joe and Ratso"

I think this is a far too sweeping (not to mention inaccurate) statement to make, that there are no hints of homosexuality between the two leads at all in the film. In one scene, Rizzo fantasizes about a shirtless Joe running beside him on the beach (with no women present around them), and if I recall correctly Rizzo is being messaged by Joe. Rizzo in another scene makes an acerbic, anti-gay critcism of Joe's choice of clothing (possibly indicative of the insecure sexuality of Rizzo). Then there's the scene at the end where Rizzo nestles his head onto Joe's shoulder (of course, two good friends should be allowed to do this without being thought of as gay, but nonetheless this scene could still count as a possible gay implication). I find in some articles on wikipedia that the writers seem to make deliberate efforts to attempt to, rather pointlessly, refute a previously thought-out and established consensus on something without really backing it up. This can be very annoying, not to mention averse to what an encyclopaedia is supposed to provide, and I hope this is not happening here. Perhaps the writer of this should watch the film a bit more closely; either that or cite an article by a professional film critic or maybe some academic who wrote something about the implied homosexuality issue. Otherwise, this absolute and out of left-field refutation doesn't really stand. I might find something, and change it myself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.100.126 (talk • contribs)