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This is not very NPOV.... it assumes biblical events & explanations as fact... fundies may so believe, but many think thats a crock

Although I understand your reasoning, the article mentions multiple times that information on Midian and the Midianites comes largely from the Bible. --Merovingian (t) (c) 01:19, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Moses' Orders

Ive added to the section describing Moses' prescribed punishment for the Midianites. According to the Book of Numbers, he ordered his soldiers to kill all male children, and all non-virgin females. He then allowed the Israelite men to take the virgin women.

Marcadams99 05:23, 21 July 2007 (UTC) Marcus, July, 20th, 2007


[edit] "Citation Needed" Tags

I've added {{citation needed}} tags on three paragraphs that really kicked off some questions. If we've only tentatively identified the Midianites with the Hyksos, it seems odd for the article to claim that they have a specific geographic location, economy, or archaeological finds. I won't be able to take a look at this stuff until towards the end of the month, but if no one's addressed these citations, I'll start digging into my archaeology journals. Justin Eiler 23:28, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and removed those sections--they're quoted below. Anyone who has a citation for these assertions is more than welcome to re-add the sentences and plug in the citations.

From "Midian#Geographical_Position"

Further evidences of the geographical position of the Midianites appear in a survey of their history. [citation needed]

From "Economy" (section header removed)

For a time during the decline of Egyptian power in the Levant, the Midianites controlled the copper mines at Timna. They were a sophisticated people whose territory sat astride several important trade routes of the ancient world- including the King's Highway. Rolls of fine cloth and beads have been discovered at Midianite sites, as well as fine objects of worked copper. [citation needed]

From "Midian#Religion"

Copper sculptures of serpents from Midianite sites are reminiscent of the Biblical story of Nahushtan (Numbers 21:6-9), a bronze snake statue created by Moses to stave off snake attacks. This has led to speculation of an ophidian cult among the Midianites, as existed among other ancient people, such as the Marsi. [citation needed]

Justin Eiler 16:26, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article moved

For reference during the discussion:

Sons of Abraham by wife in order of birth
Hagar Ishmael (1)
Sarah Isaac (2)
Keturah Zimran Jokshan Medan Midian Ishbak Shuah


This article was moved from Midian to Midian (son of Abraham) with the edit summary "for consistency". I don't understand that. Of the sons of Abraham, only Medan has a more significant meaning and that son's article is therefore located at Medan (son of Abraham). There was no need to move the others, as they are not ambiguous. See WP:NAME. Please comment below as I am inclined to move it (and the others) back. - Fayenatic (talk) 19:47, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

You seem right! I cannot find any reason as well! --Submitter to Truth (talk) 08:23, 17 April 2008 (UTC)