Talk:Mid-October 2007 tornado outbreak

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[edit] NWS photos

Here are some photos we could use - I won't be able to add any until tonight or tomorrow, so if anyone wants to here is the link:

NWS Alpena also has a couple of very good shots of the Black Lake tornado at http://www.crh.noaa.gov/crnews/display_story.php?wfo=dtx&storyid=10667&source=0 Rdfox 76 18:20, 19 October 2007 (UTC) My mistake, that was the Detroit page. Doesn't matter anyway, as the NWS Gaylord page no longer has the photos up any more. Rdfox 76 02:02, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] October 17 wind event

I added a section for the (mostly) straight-line wind event (the one that went through Tulsa) as that probably warrants more information if stuff can be found. It isn't everyday that 90 mph winds go straight through a major city...I called it a derecho even though I am not sure it lasted long enough for such. CrazyC83 17:50, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Storm Based Tornado Warning

Looking from NWS Grand Rapids site and saw this particular graphic which shows the EF2 tornado that killed 2 in Ingham County and wondering if this can be used for the article or it would too confusing or people will not really understand it. That seems to be the first time, I've seen this form of graphic for a tornado. Typically, he seed the velocity with the red and green and here we have some blue.--JForget 23:32, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Oddities

I was wondering if an oddities section should be. In Mount Carmel, IL there were numerous reports of tornadoes from the county EMA, sherrif, and the police department. This can be seen at a local radio stations website, WYNG. However, this link will likely be cleared by Monday. (After all, it is a small town radio station, they don't archive.)This is an odditie because radar did not detect anything and the NWS did not offically record a local storm report. I went outside myself to look and I did not see anything. I did not report anything to the NWS or the local TV station I am a spotter for, WEHT. Southern Illinois SKYWARN 01:00, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

If the NWS did not report it, someone in the area should relay the information to the local office. Anything not reported by the NWS (or the agency responsible) is not official. (It is certainly possible there were a few more tornadoes not reported, particularly in the more rural areas) CrazyC83 02:03, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
The local EMA director has said that the NWS was made aware of this, but mind you this is the same man that said watch WFIE for severe weather coverage. The chief meteorlogist for WEHT said that the NWS would be investighating this area today, so perhaps we will have a reliable reference later on today.(Saturday) I did not believe this report at first, but I have since heard many first-hand accounts. Southern Illinois SKYWARN 13:03, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
For now I've put the report in the list of reported tornadoes along with the source from the radio station for now, but of course the source will have to be changed. Any news articles from stations from Evansville, Indianapolis, Paducah, Louisville or Cape Girardeau about this storm?JForget 15:22, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes, right here (from WFIE) [1] Southern Illinois SKYWARN 16:09, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
The NWS is now saying that "As time permits...additional surveys

may be performed on Monday over portions of Southeast Missouri and Southern Illinois." This might include the event in Wabash County. Southern Illinois SKYWARN 03:18, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Confirmation

The NWS has filed a LSR, you can look at it here, I have put it in on the outbreak page. Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk • contribs) 23:54, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

I've made the fix although it doesn't there are any ratings yet, nor if they have done the survey.--JForget 00:32, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Disclaimer on tornado numbers?

Should a disclaimer be added on the tornado count saying it might have been higher but some may not have been reported? Some of the areas affected (especially northern Michigan, the Ozarks and parts of Kentucky) are not exactly heavily populated. Also it is certainly not impossible that there was a tornado or two on Thursday night across the Canadian border north of Highway 17 looking at radar shots there...and almost no one lives there. CrazyC83 18:15, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

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[edit] Good article nomination on hold

This article's Good Article promotion has been put on hold. During review, some issues were discovered that can be resolved without a major re-write. This is how the article, as of April 12, 2008, compares against the six good article criteria:

1. Well written?: Pass
2. Factually accurate?: Tagged
3. Broad in coverage?: More Napanee info
4. Neutral point of view?: Pass
5. Article stability? Pass
6. Images?: Pass


Anything that needs work is tagged

Please address these matters soon and then leave a note here showing how they have been resolved. After 48 hours the article should be reviewed again. If these issues are not addressed within 7 days, the article may be failed without further notice. Thank you for your work so far. Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 16:20, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I also suggest you use cite templates. I will help. Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 17:23, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Also, please fill in everything possible in the cite template, especially the access date. Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 17:41, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
To pass this article, I want references where there are {{fact}} tags, and full vertical cite templates. Use ref names to prevent the same reference from showing up twice in the reflist. Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 17:47, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
I'll work on that next. I'm just trying to get rid of the [citation needed] points (either by finding a citation, or deleting those sections if they aren't useful). I'm having some trouble finding old NHC archives (such as tropical weather discussions) for the Gulf low. CrazyC83 (talk) 18:24, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

All {{fact}} tags are gone, but a ref is needed for the damages. If that isn't on Storm Data from the NCDC, I will revert it back to the last version. Like I said in the initial review, please add some more info about Napanee. Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 22:42, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm going ahead and am not going to remove that event though it is in contrast to the NCDC. I wish Cycponebiskit would have provided a reference for that. Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 22:45, 28 April 2008 (UTC)