User talk:Michael Bush

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[edit] Beespace

  • A "beespace" is between 1/4" (6mm) and 3/8" (9.5mm). It is not one fixed size.
That is right.
  • That space as observed by Huber (and many others) is the same whether between comb faces or between the comb edges and the walls.
This is not compactly wrong. Between comb faces the distance is no less than 12 mm.
  • You may be able to force the bees to have 1/2" between capped brood,
It need not any force. The ½” is natural space there. Huber was wrong.
  • because the brood is a fixed size and you have changed the spacing with foundation and frames to 35mm on center, instead of the natural space (as observed by Huber) of 32mm,
The distance center to center must be more than 36 millimeter 2*11mm of depth of brood cell + approximately 2-3 mm foundation + 12 mm between comb faces (for two 6mm layers of bee blanket). In Langstroth hive it is 37.5mm. Huber distance 32mm was wrong look for example the “The World History of Beekeeping and Honey Hunting” by Eva Crane.
  • but the space between combs the bees build on their own and the space between honey comb and honey comb, where they will thicken it to fit, is still a beespace.
This is not. They thicken the comb where they store honey. In brood chamber they cluster on face of brood and need adequate operational space.
  • Which is between 1/4" and 3/8" (6mm and 9.5mm).
No it is not in the brood space between comb faces.
  • Huber was observing natural comb and the spacing was not 1/2" (12mm) between the combs.
Huber was observing nothing what you suggest.
  • What he observed was "never having more than four lines between them (4 lines = 4/12ths in = @5/16 in. = 8.5mm)", which is the median of "beespace".
He was observing nothing like “bee space” but wrong “comb space”. Bee space (i.e. bee corridor) is not in the place between combs faces. Huber assumed that between glass and comb the space must be the same as between combs faces witch is totally wrong. Experimentally he got the 8.5 mm from glass to comb but had no idea what is what.

--Lapacz 04:29, 4 April 2007 (UTC)