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Good article Mickie James has been listed as one of the Everyday life good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can delist it, or ask for a reassessment.
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[edit] Goodnight Kiss

This article mentions one of Mickie's signature moves as "Goodnight Kiss",but it was called "Long-Kiss Goodnight" on WWE by Jim Ross. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.11.131.108 (talk) 23:10, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pre-GA Review comments

I think the article is great, but I wanted to mention a couple of concerns:

  • The first sentence of the Ohio Valley Wrestling section is awkward. It implies that the match with Dawn Marie lasted two years, which is obviously not the case. Could it be changed to "as well as wrestling in a tryout match..." or "After two years of..., she was given a tryout match..."? I don't want to make the change myself, because the tryout match may have been in the middle of the two years.
    • Y Done - Deep Shadow 01:56, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
  • The second sentence of the 2005-2006 section seems too long and complicated. Could it be split into two?
    • Y Done - I thought this too the first time I read the sentence, I should have fixed it then :P Done now! ;) --Naha|(talk) 00:34, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
  • The pronoun "she" in the second-last sentence of the second paragraph of 2005-2006 is unclear. In "the fans frequently cheered her and booed Stratus whenever she hit an offensive maneuver", does "she" refer to James or Stratus?
    • Y Done - Fixed, changed both "shes" to "James." --Naha|(talk) 00:37, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
      • Comment - The second "she" refers to Stratus, so I made the correction. - Deep Shadow 01:56, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
        • Comment - Yes, in fact it does. I'm not quite sure what I was thinking. Thanks for fixing it. --Naha|(talk) 02:29, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
  • The final sentence says that she has a tattoo on her ankle. Is it known what this depicts? If so, it seems like it should be included. If not, don't worry about it. It doesn't need to be removed or anything.
    • Ok I've been looking for this and all I can find is an interview that Mikie did with Kat Von D of LA Ink on wwe.com. She says she has a tattoo on her ankle but never actually says what the tattoo is. I've also looked at dozens of pictures and her ankle is always covered up with wrestling boots or socks or pants. So unless someone else can find something, I say we remove the statement all together ..it really doesn't add anything to the article in its present form. --Naha|(talk) 02:29, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
      • Agreed. - Deep Shadow 02:38, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Aside from that, I can't find any problems with it. It looks like you've done a good job taking it out-of-universe. Good work. GaryColemanFan 15:38, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Modeling career.

I was just wondering what happened to her work out side of wrestling? I know she has done some modeling and she posed nude for a low class mag, also was she not in one of Timberland's videos or not? What happened to this info, do you not feel some of it deserves inclusion on James biography? Govvy 10:46, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Her posing nude is included, and she was not in Timbalands video, only a few of the Divas were and it asnt her. --Metal to the Max! 00:57, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Posing Nude

Does the magazine listed as a source actually say that it is Mickie James by name that was in the photos? Her official website denies that she posed for those pictures. As is, the citation seems rather dubious and the material doesn't seem all that relevant to the article.Cwc2311 (talk) 20:17, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

As far as I know, she does not have an official website. - Deep Shadow 20:58, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
The site someone had mentioned in the archives appears to be down now. Regardless, does the magazine actually mention her full name? If not, the citation lacks verifiability.Cwc2311 (talk) 22:46, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
The Legshow article calls her "Micki", and its a wrestling-oriented photoshoot (the full title of this article is: "Micki Meets and Defeats Or, Grappling for Panties). There is very little doubt that its her. And, as Deep Shadow mentioned, Mickie James doesn't seem to have an official website. --Celtic Jobber (talk) 05:31, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Height?

There is some dispute over Mickie's height. Both her and Trish Stratus are listed as 5'4". When her and Trish appeared next to one another, Trish is definitely taller. I can backup that Trish is in fact 5'4" because I have seen her in person. However, I have never seen Mickie in person. Mickie appears to be even smaller, probably about 5'2". Anyone got any incite on this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.201.182.142 (talk) 18:28, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

There is no dispute. They are both billed as 5 ft 4 in. There is a difference between billed height and real height. - Deep Shadow 03:04, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Update

Mickie has currently done many things sucha s winning several matches week to week, winning for her women's team at survivor series and the most recent winning the chance at the wwe women's championship at armagedon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.240.147.217 (talk) 01:47, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Week-by-week occurences are not notable unless a feud results in them or a a title is actually won. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 01:52, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Does her (as of now) 3 week "story-line" with John Cena mean anything? I think it is definately going somewhere and should be mentioned. --WWEluvr (talk) 10:24, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA review

I am passing this article because I feel that it is at the same level as other wrestler bios. One small thing, per the MoS, you don't actually need citations in the lead if the statement is sourced elsewhere in the article. There are quite a few in the lead, so perhaps some of them could be trimmed? -- Scorpion0422 17:54, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Really? Other reviewers have wanted citations in the lead, saying that information should be cited the first time it is mentioned. Nikki311 03:18, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Nope, WP:LEAD says that citations aren't needed in the lead if it's sourced elsewhere. However, if there is a quotation or a potentially controversial statement, there should be a source. In fact, I've seen FACs opposed solely because of citations in the lead. -- Scorpion0422 03:27, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Feud with Beth

Would it be safe to say Mickie is now feuding with Beth over the women's title? Or is this more of a filler until Candice comes back and not worth mentioning until it's over or Mickie defeats Beth for the title?

Not sure. Either way, so far, the feud has not really gone anywhere...Gavyn Sykes (talk) 00:35, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Take that crap off!

Take out all the little trivia crap off of her personal life cuz if Melina dosent get trivia on her page,then why the hell dose mickie get it!"Oh look at me!im mickie and I like the dallas cowboys and ridding horses!"(and kissing women!) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.246.93.155 (talk) 18:35, 30 December 2007 (UTC)


Well,maybe you should go on melina's page and edit it! You should also quit talking crap about her! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.190.104.172 (talk) 22:00, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Trivia is discouraged. Melina's article HAD a trivia section, that was eventually merged into the prose of the article, in accordance with WP:TRIVIA. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 22:18, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Thats exactly my freakin point!Take it off,you even said so yourself that Trivia is discouraged by Wikipedia,ok!So take it off.If not I could just go and add more trivia to Melinas page!Cuz if Melina dose not get cool things on her page,then damn it Mickie dosent get anything on her page too!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.246.93.60 (talk) 02:48, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

That sounds almost like you're planning to vandalise this article or Melina's just to make a point. - Deep Shadow 08:47, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Yeah. I have some time to kill today, so before I go back to expand 'Mania 23, I'll merge Mickie's trivia section into the prose. No cure for vandalism like prevention... Gavyn Sykes (talk) 18:12, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Now that I actually look at the article, there is no trivia section, it's all in prose... Gavyn Sykes (talk) 18:47, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mickie & Ken

Mickie and Ken have officially broken up. They are not even dating anymore. I know this because she has announced it herself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mickiexlover (talk • contribs) 15:17, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Source? Gavyn Sykes (talk) 17:39, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

I saw Ken at Universal Studios with a blond girl the other day. They were holding hands.--Santinosgirl11 (talk) 18:21, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

That could have been his sister for all we know. You need to provide a published source like an interview or article that says he and Mickie have broken up. Nikki311 19:09, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

A website (sescoops.com) stated that Mickie and Ken are no longer together. It also stated that Mickie is in a real-life relationship with John Cena, which feuled the storyline. --WWEluvr 20:16, 5 June 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 7wwepotterfan (talk • contribs)

[edit] Entrance Music

"Ice Breakers" was Mickie James' first theme song while on Raw and the theme she used in TNA was "Girlfriend". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.170.142.252 (talk) 02:51, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Do you know what production library the song can be found in, so it can be properly sourced? Mshake3 (talk) 02:53, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

That source never said that Mickie used Ice Breakers in TNA, it says that TNA used Ice Breakers as it's PPV theme, which was Mickie's theme. They mean she used the theme in WWE, as it was her debut theme. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.33.204.199 (talk) 00:30, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RAW Spoiler

Please do not post what happened in London, England this evening - the show has been taped, but it has not been broadcast anywhere yet. Steveweiser (talk) 23:47, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

why should we wait? if it has already happened we should put it up.CMJMEM (talk) 09:33, 15 April 2008 (UTC)