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Should not Hunky Dory appear in the Glory Years section, since it was the first Bowie/Ronson co-production - plus Ronson featuring on Piano and Arrangements? Other than Rick Wakeman, this is the studio band that became The Spiders from Mars.

Yes, it should. Well spotted, and over to you, dear friend, to effect the amendment. I am from Mick Ronson's hometown of Hull. My main rationale of input here, is to keep his memory alive, rather than to muscle in on a true Bowie historian's work.

Derek R Bullamore 00:05, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Um, I own the three Ronson studio albums, a few Ian Hunter ones as well as the Dana Gillespie and Lou Reed records. However, compared to a few people I know I am a mere dabbler in the appreciation of Ronno - and I wasn't willing to cut into somebody elses contribution without a polite enquiry first. I will get the Hunky Dory reference in, and throw a Philip Rambow album mention in for good measure. For the time being I will leave the Slaughter and the Dogs credit out.LessHeard vanU 14:35, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

(Sigh...) Slaughter & The Dogs have a wikilink, and Phil Rambow doesn't. Another win by notoriety over talent... Mind you, I have been searching the second hand record shops for the Phil Rambow/Ronno album for years - if I could get any decent info on him I would create a stub article myself!LessHeard vanU 20:37, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

I have added quite a bit more, especially the Bowie period and Ian Hunter collaberations. I fleshed out what I know of the Bob Dylan connection. It isn't comprehensive, but I am getting wary of exceeding Wiki's policy on too much input of a relative obscure artist. I will see if this gets edited down. If not I will add more, providing it links with established artists.LessHeard vanU 23:52, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Felatio 2 Section Headers 3 Bowie's first meeting with Ronson? 4 Fair use rationale for Image:Mick Ronson.jpg

[edit] Felatio

Bowie did not "suggestively kiss" Ronson's guitar, he performed felatio to it. Wikipedia is not censored, hence no need of inane euphemisms. TommyStardust 13:17, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm impressed that Bowie was able to get the entire head, including tuning pegs and nut, and some of the neck (with how many frets) of Ronno's Les Paul into his mouth - given that Mick was playing the damn thing. That would make it fellatio. From what I have seen, he kisses the neck (above the chord Ronno is holding) and licks the guitar body around the scratchboard. Any other interaction with the strings would have resulted in bum notes, and/or muted strings. In short, it was not an euphemism - Bowie simulated or inferred fellatio by kissing the guitar suggestively and grabbing Ronno's arse when doing so.

Mind you, that aside, I am impressed by the cleanup you have done on the article. Good work.LessHeard vanU 21:19, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Section Headers

'The glory years' does not strike me as a particularly encyclopaedic section header. Unless there are any objections, I will change it (when I think of something). Vanityjunkie 16:28, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

It is hard to think of a suitable replacement. Ronson's post Bowie work is critically generally well regarded, and is probably just as well liked by his fans. He just didn't get his name in the popular press as much (even though he may have made as much, or even more, money when he went freelance). Perhaps "Bowie Era" would cover his work with both little Davy Jones, Lou Reed, Mott, Dana Gillespie, and all that jazz? Then "Later Work" for Ian Hunter, Bob Dylan and all the (many) others? LessHeard vanU 19:48, 28 March 2007 (UTC) ps. Got any decent books on Ronno, this article does need some citations?

Unfortunately no. I don't know anything about Mick Ronson - that's why I looked him up. But Bowie Era and Later Work does sound better.Vanityjunkie 09:01, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Nice job on the article. As a reward, find yourself some Ronno and enjoy! LessHeard vanU 12:23, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bowie's first meeting with Ronson?

Was it 1970 as suggested here?

Ronson played on Bowie's second album, recorded in 1969, "David Bowie" (retitled Man Of Words, Man Of Music) on the track "Wild Eyed Boy From Freecloud". He also played on the re-recorded version of Memory Of A Free Festival the same year, which later appeared on the Ryokodisc reissue of the second David Bowie album (this time retitled Space Oddity). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.16.129.4 (talk) 18:02, 3 April 2007 (UTC).

From memory the guitarists around this time were John Cambridge and Keith Christmas. LessHeard vanU 18:32, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Mick Ronson.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 14:56, 8 March 2008 (UTC)