Talk:Michael Madhusudan Dutt

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Contents 1 Merger 2 Added Category 3 Tone Tag 4 Not a Bengali Christian?

[edit] Merger

The proper and common way of name spelling for this poet is Michael Madhusudan Dutt. The middle name is not split into two parts in common usage. So the article Michael Madhu Sudan Dutt needs to redirect to this article. Thanks. --Ragib 21:06, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Who ever's changed the artice into neatly arranged headers as done a real great job.

[edit] Added Category

Added category indian christians.--71.30.188.223 04:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tone Tag

This article still seems terribly POV. An admin once added a tone tag here, but then it was removed. I would like to put that tag back. Any objections? --Kuaichik 22:03, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I've put it back. In case anyone is wondering why, let me offer a more detailed explanation I had given elsewhere:

it still includes statements such as "(h)e was an exceptionally gifted student," "(h)e was very imaginative," and "what the Abbot of St. Maurice spoke of Manfred [essentially a series of praises] can equally be applied to the life of Madhusudan." In addition, there are many unsourced statements assuming knowledge of his feelings like "...he desired to be an Englishman..." "(h)e had no respect for that tradition and wanted to break free..." --Kuaichik 04:53, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Not a Bengali Christian?

Bakasuprman has removed "Bengali Christian" as a category to which Michael Madhusudan Dutt would belong. Why? Was he not a Bengali Christian? The article seems to say so. --Kuaichik 06:18, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Replied on user talk page.Bakaman 18:09, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, the main problem is, "Indian" here is confusing. It mixes up a "India" as in British India (a larger pre-1947 entity comprising of current day India, Pakistan, Bangladesh), with "India" as in "Republic of India" (the post-1947 republic, much smaller). Indian christian is, therefore, quite ambiguous. He could very well be called a "Bangladeshi Christian" under the logic (BD didn't exist back in his time, but neither did "Republic of India"). --Ragib 18:19, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Splitting by ethnicity leads to a pandoras box of categories. Bodo, Naga, Gujjar, Malayali, there are potentially over 50 categories that could probably be created. Also, MMD lived in some entity titled India ([[British India]], [[Republic of India]] - there's a common theme here) while he didnt live in any entity titled Bangladesh. If you believe MMD should be a member of Category:Bangladeshi Christians by all means add him but we do not have cats like "Punjabi Hindus", "Tamil Buddhists", "Tibetan Muslims", "Champan Christians", etc which would more or less serve the same function of this category.Bakaman 18:46, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Ohh, now I see that the category "Bengali Christians" was deleted. Sorry, my mistake (and sorry for the late reply as well); I should have looked. No point in classifying him under a category while it is nonexistent, right? I would tend to think that he is a Bengali Christian and should be categorized as such, but only under the assumption that the category is available. --Kuaichik 04:33, 22 July 2007 (UTC)