Talk:Michael Flatley

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Michael was not born in Chicago. He was born in Detroit, as was his older sister Annie. His parents were married there in Saint Monica's Catholic Church on 25 August 1956. Michael's parents moved to Madison Wisconsin when he was quite young, and later moved to Chicago.

Michael's mother Elizabeth (aka Eilish) Ryan is the daughter of Patrick Ryan of Dranagh, County Carlow, and Hannah Lanigan. I don't know where the Mayo bit came from, but she's not from there.

I'm Michael's second cousin. My mother is his mother's first cousin, and my grandfather Jimmy Ryan was his grandfather's older brother. We share a common pair of great-grandparents, Michael and Eliza Ryan of Dranagh.

BillGawne 22:13, 24 March 2006 (UTC) Bill Gawne gawne@cesmail.net

I have heard Michael say in interviews that his father came from County Sligo, not County Mayo. Was Michael mistaken? Could someone else who knows him confirm this?

Contents 1 Cleanup 2 Cleanup tag 3 WikiProject class rating 4 Criticism? 5 lol

[edit] Cleanup

This article does not seem to conform to Wikiepedia's general format - the list of dated entries in particular. Also, some of the sentiments are unencyclopaedic, most notably the last paragraph. Blaise Joshua 15:56, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

That was an amazingly fast cleanup! Nice one : o ) Blaise Joshua 14:20, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Vesperholly 07:26, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

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I added a cleanup tag because this article needs copyediting. Mostly missing, misplaced or extra punctuation (especially around the citations), awkward and/or casual language style, and missing or extra spaces (particularly around punctuation). Anchoress 08:37, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Criticism?

Odd that there's no criticism section here. In fact, the whole thing seems to be a bit of a love letter. Flately is derided by many for the cod-erzatz-commercial version of "Irish-ness" that the Riverdance (no criticism in that article either) show seemed to put forward. I grew up in Ireland, and many over there consider him to be a kind of self-serving egomaniac that grew fat from the "Celtic Tiger" and the American love for all things decorated with a Shamrock. The Riverdance show is not strictly traditional dancing, and nor is the music (and claims that they are merely "modernising" it are hard to buy - weakening it / diluting more like): it's a kind of money-led "American Idol" version of Irishness - listen to The Chieftans or The Pogues and then to the Riverdance soundtrack. There's a whole bunch of people that have "sold" their "Irishness" to the rest of the world , like a kind of fake plastic mysticism. Even the "traditional" dancing they are supposed to be doing, in a sense, represents repression in Ireland: if they were true artists, perhaps they would have addressed that. To call this art or traditional dance is like calling Justin Timberlake's backing dancer's "ballet dancers". Nothing negative in the article? Nothing about his ego, and the problems it has allegedly caused?

Call this an encyclopedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.233.89 (talk) 21:06, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] lol

"Michael Ryan Flatley (born July 16, 1958 in Chicago, Illinois) is an Irish step dancer from the south side of the country. His parents were from County Sligo and County Carlow. As a child, he moved to Chicago - the city which he considers his home town."

lol... Apparently he was born in his home town, and then adopted it as his hometown

"He began dancing lessons at 11 and, in 1975, became the first non-European to win the All-Ireland World Championship for Irish dance."

lol... Flatley is an Ethnic European, a so-called 'Irish-American', born in the United States of North America. His has homes in Ireland, he is or was engaged to an Irish girl and professes his Irishness. His Mother and Father are Irish born immigrants to the USA and therefore he is entitled to Irish and EU citizenship... I'd say he is a European born in the USA. Would'nt you?

lol.. what a mess this article is.

~~Boru~~

Boru —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.234.248.31 (talk) 16:36, 21 May 2008 (UTC)