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What's next? Magnum PI the movie? Jigen III 03:24, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Actually, yes. It's in pre-production right now and being directed by the guy that did Dodgeball. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.123.69.130 (talk • contribs)

Further information: Magnum, P.I. (film) --MZMcBride 14:58, 31 July 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] Colin and Gong Li?

I've seen off set pics of them haning out, and getting close together. Do you think they have an off set romance? -Lil Flip246 01:03, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

And how is that relevent to the movie? Oh wait, it isn't.--KrossTalk 13:41, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
yea, wiki doesnt need this discussed -Kennykane 05:48, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


Did Colin actually perform his own dancing salsa style??? Doesn't seem likely but I don't know, Actors study dance a lot. I just noticed you never see a full shot of him "cutting up the rug"

[edit] Ignore magazine

I removed this link Article by journalist Hunter Stephenson for ignore Magazine. because it doesn't really have too much relevance to the film except for a silly parody of the casting choices. -- J.D. 01:37, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

It was probably included as a form of self-promotion.

[edit] Article talk

  • Should we make the plot summary longer and more detailed?
  • Does anyone know about those crazy weapons in the movie? Like that anti-tank-sniper-gun-cannon-thing the Aryans had, or that insane uber-shotgun Rico used to open the smuggler's door and to later kill Yero with? What were those things?

The "anti-tank-sniper-gun-cannon-thing" was a .50 caliber sniper rifle like one here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M82_%28rifle%29

Picked most of these up from another website... Tubb's guns, the crazy grenade launcher might have been an HK 69 http://www.hkpro.com/hk69.htm and his shotgun was possibly a Benelli 1014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benelli_M4 Crocket might have used an SVI Tiki http://www.sviguns.com/catalog2001/page14.html and a Sig 552 assault rifle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sig_552 Other guns used included the M4 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_Carbine and variations on the HK G36c http://www.hkpro.com/g36c.htm


I can definitely confirm on the HK69. The assault rifle used by the character Gina Calabrese in the Pizza Delivery Scene is a G36K, the G36C is quite a bit shorter and has notable Picatinny Rails on top of the carry handle.

Although i quite liked the movie, i think the plot summary is way too long, given that there is only a rather slim story to tell. I especially doubt that a scene-by-scene summary helps in capturing any essence of the story, because nobody really wants to read that. An opinion...

-pac- 16:50, Monday August 28, 2006 (UTC).

Agree, the synopsis is far too long. Details like "Crocket flirts with a bartender" are not necessary to move the plot along and the overall tone does not fit with an encyclopedic entry: "We cut to...", things of that nature. I'm sure someone put a lot of time into it but it needs to be streamlined. Mcr29 09:50, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

If a few more people agree, I will begin work on compacting the synopsis to a decent length. Also, what is the consensus on cast listings? Should they be part of the article? If so, should it be first billed stars only? And where in the article should it be placed? Mcr29 18:26, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Expand synopsis

Hi, could someone who's seen the film:

  • expand the film synopsis
  • clarify the plot a bit more
  • add spoiers start / spoilers end

Thank you very much

[edit] Synopsis

The synopsis on this page appears to be a violation of copyright and to be plagiarized from another website, most likely this one. The synopsis was previously removed, but was again readded. I've moved the synopsis to the talk page until this is resolved.

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After a tragic security breach in the Joint Inter-Agency Task Force (JIATF), run by Agent FBI Agent Fujima (Ciarán Hinds), the FBI ask for help from the Miami authorities, who are not part of the compromised group. This assignment goes to Detectives James 'Sonny' Crockett (Colin Farrell) and Ricardo 'Rico' Tubbs (Jamie Foxx). Going undercover as offshore boat racers and outlaw smugglers Sonny Burnett and Rico Cooper, they take on the narcotrafficking network of the mysterious Archangel de Jesus Montoya-Londono (Luis Tosar) and his Cuban Chinese banker, Isabella (Gong Li).

The case lures Crockett and Tubbs into a deep and grimey underworld, where identity and fabrication become blurred. Cop and Player fuse into one—making their lives even more difficult, especially when Crockett falls for Isabella, and when Tubbs's loved one (Naomie Harris) is assaulted. José Yero (John Ortiz), second in command to Archangel de Jesus Montoya-Londono, suspects Crockett's and Tubbs's false identities and attempts to strike the hardest at them by targeting those whom they love the most.

Tubbs's wife is wounded badly after the trailer where she was kidnapped and held at exploded. Isabella gets caught in a shoot out but ultimately survives. The ending is ambiguous as Isabella and Crokett split up and Tubbs's wife is shown to be regaining her concious.

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--MZMcBride 22:42, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] BMW 640 in the movie ?

I wasn't aware that BMW ever produced a 640 coupe. Is this really confirmed?

It would be a BMW 645i. The article states a BMW M6, when in fact it should be 645i.

[edit] Leoneta

In the Spanish dubbing, Alonzo's girl is named Leoneta or Leonetta. Is the article wrong or the translators changed it for some reason?

It is the same in both spanish and english dubs - what do you mean changed? -scr —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.75.41.34 (talk) 22:46, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Galician

I read in Spanish press that Luis Tosar plays a Galician trafficker. In the movie, he is a Colombian, though. However in Iguazu he is reading some Spanish-language newspaper about Caixanova.

So was the character a Galician at some point of the filmmaking?

[edit] Posting Reviews

I removed this link -- *More About the Movie and a Review By Michael T. Bannon -- because it really doesn't belong in that section. There is one set aside for critical reaction but also this review is from some minor league critic and not one of the "established" usual suspects (Ebert, Rolling Stone, New York Times, et. al). Count Ringworm 19:29, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

I deleted the below review from the main text as it is hardly a "typical" review of the film. Waaaaay too much POV. Count Ringworm 20:26, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Yeah POV is right. I love the statement, "...that statement assumes there were actually people jonesing for a Miami Vice movie in the first place, which I highly doubt." I know several Mann fans who wanted a big-screen version of the movie. In contrast, nobody asked for a big-screen version of "L.A. Takedown". We got one. It's called HEAT and it was great.TabascoMan77 03:28, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reviews

As stated, many reviewers gave Miami Vice high marks for style, but the overall consensus was that the film had a flat, lifeless feel to it. While the television series may now be considered cliche or campy, many felt it still holds a unique character and feel due to its well crafted combination of music, imagery and the chemistry of its strong lead characters. Miami Vice the movie, according to many newpaper and Internet reviewers, lacked those elements and instead offered up instead a brooding, cynical, self-important display pandering to mean-spirited hip-hop sensibilities. The following is a typical review of Miami Vice the Movie, from About.Com:

Reviewed by Rebecca Murray - Guide Rating 1 1/2 of 5 Stars

The names Crockett and Tubbs are about the only things that tie Miami Vice the movie to Miami Vice the television series. Very little action actually takes place in Miami, the general overall tone of the movie is completely different from the series, and the buddy chemistry that worked so well between TV stars Don Johnson and Philip Michael Thomas is totally missing. Anyone expecting a big screen version of the ‘80s TV series will be deeply disappointed. However that statement assumes there were actually people jonesing for a Miami Vice movie in the first place, which I highly doubt.

Miami Vice opens with Tubbs (Oscar-winner Jamie Foxx) and Crockett (Colin Farrell) trying to bring down some ultra-bad guy doing business at a wild Miami nightclub. When an informant they’ve worked with for years calls and asks they take care of his family, Tubbs and Crockett desert their current assignment in an effort to find out what’s got their informant so freaked out. The two stumble onto an ongoing operation involving multiple police agencies and, after a lame explanation as to why, are chosen to take the lead in busting a drug lord who’s been transporting boat loads of drugs into South Florida.

Miami Vice the movie takes itself way too seriously and is dialogue-driven when action would speak louder than words. Character development is one thing, but Miami Vice resorts to having the characters explain their motivations and what’s going to happen next, instead of just visually showing us what’s going on. Mann’s dark and gritty style and camera movements do work well for the most part, yet Mann wanders away from his signature approach to choreographing scenes when the film could benefit the most from his unique style.

The plot’s difficult to follow as characters pass in and out of the film without their allegiances ever having been firmly established. Complicating matters is dialogue that’s at times impossible to understand. Mann did a great job of selecting top-notch actors in supporting roles, however due to heavy accents their lines are sometimes incomprehensible. There are instances when it was so hard to make out what was being said that I had to make up my own exchanges, some of which had to have been better than the lines actually being delivered in the film. Farrell and Foxx must have negotiated contracts that required their characters to be given equal time when it came to love scenes. One shower sex scene would have been fine, but with two big-name stars comes not one but two sexy shower sequences. Every romantic action of one main character required the same sort of scene featuring the other. Redundant to the point of silliness, this need to include romantic storylines also took away from the main reason most people want to see a Miami Vice movie in the first place: it’s big ticket action scenes. Those, unfortunately, are too few and far between to enliven the dreary experience of Miami Vice on the big screen.

A very forgettable effort by director Michael Mann and all involved, Miami Vice isn’t the explosive summer blockbuster it was hyped up to be. Instead, it’s a run of the mill cop movie that’s stylish but ultimately boring. GRADE: D+

[edit] Foxx difficulties?

It states that Foxx would not participate in scenes on boats or planes. Clearly there are several shots of him in planes and on boats. This needs clarification or it should be removed. Mcr29 18:20, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DVD

What's the name of the song playing on the dvd commercials. Its got a nice intro. I wish it was Rap.74.195.3.11 18:57, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Problems with the article

They've already been mentioned but no one has done anything about them. (I havent seen the film so I can't) The plot outline is far, far too long and detailed. Check out Heat, the outline there is a good guide to the level of detail which is useful. It also seems like the review section is POV, I'm not going to say too much there but read over it and ask yourself if it's trying to convince you about the movie. A review section should state things matter-of-factly, not try to minimize certain facts and promote others. 121.44.96.217 15:25, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Alright, I've added more soundbites from negative reviews to balance out the positive. Count Ringworm 17:44, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Anyone else getting a blacklisted hyperlink error when trying to edit? I'm sure it's not a worm or spyware or anything, I think a link snuck in on someone else's edit through the filter and now whenever anyone tries to edit, the filter catches it and says no. What link is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamiltondaniel (talk • contribs) 21:29, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Work's fine for me. El Greco(talk) 00:50, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Yep, it wouldn't work for me either. A link was "blacklisted", which I removed. It was in the sentence about RZA's involvement, and the link "Associated Content". --Menzies7 (talk) 21:59, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Fixed, found a new link. El Greco(talk) 00:06, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Differences Between Director's and Theatrical Cut

"Skill sets" does not refer to the boats. It refers to the capabilities/skills of the smugglers. Similar to the way FBI Agent Pedrosa refers to Vincent as the kind of guy who has "trigger time, real skill-sets" in another Mann movie, Collateral. I'm not going to change it... mainly because i cant remember my login name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.149.231.199 (talk) 05:43, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Miami Vice Teaser Poster.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 17:14, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. El Greco(talk) 18:38, 29 November 2007 (UTC)