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http://www.angelfire.com/dc/1spy/acronyms.html#1m claims that MI8 "was responsible for monitoring broadcasts having to do with German bombers during the Blitz; also called the Radio Security Service," and that the branch "dealing with escape and evasion in World War II" - which seems more like what this entry describes - was MI9.

I note that MI5 says the same thing, so I'm going to move this there.

There's now an another entry Black Chamber that seems to duplicate much of this article. One of these entries should probably redirect to the other, but which should be the main article?

One thought...currently this article (MI8) deals with two MI8s, so it might be convenient to deal with the American MI8 in Black Chamber, and the British MI8 here, with a disambiguation header to point people in the right direction. — Matt 23:31, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Radio Security Service

"Also known as the Radio Security Service, it tracked radio broadcasts about German bombers during The Blitz."

I don't that is correct and have doubts about the relationaship between MI8 and the RSS. Perhaps a separate page is need for the RSS.
I understood that the RSS was an organisation set up early in WWII using mainly radio amateurs. These were used to monitor for any enemy radio transmissions within the UK initially as it was thought that there could be transmissions as beacons for bombers and also from enemy agents. It then was used to monitor for transmissions from Europe which were posted to a Post Office Box number and eventually used by Bletchley Park.
As things got better organised there were monitoring stations set up and many of the RSS monitors were called up into the armed forces.
The RAF had their own "Y" service for monitoring transmissions from enemy aircraft and the Royal Signals, RN and others had their own similar organisations. --jmb 11:48, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
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Ahah, so that's what RSS stands for. The abbreviation first appears in the third paragraph of this article, and it's mentioned extensively, but nowhere (except here on the discussion page) do we find out what it stands for. 141.20.54.144 (talk) 15:06, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Just reading The Secret Wireless War by Geoffrey Pidgeon. The RSS was formed by MI5 and was "taken over lock, stock and barrel" by Gambier-Parry in 1941 and became part of SIS Section VIII. --jmb (talk) 10:44, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] SCU

"After D-Day Special Communications Units (SCU) were created to disseminate the ULTRA material"

I thought that SCU were in operation before then? I am sure I have seen references to them in North Africa but just going from memory. --jmb 23:38, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
You are quite right, see the new subsection "Dissemination of Ultra intelligence" in Ultra.
Sv1xv (talk) 13:08, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

The SCU story is not directly relevant to RSS so I delete this paragraph.Sv1xv (talk) 16:38, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

"The Special Communications Units (SCUs) were the para-military organisations set up by Gambier-Parry to cover the many and various operations of MI6 (Section VIII), including the dissemination of Ultra traffic. That particular aspect of Section VIII's work was handled by Special Liaison Units (SLUs) in conjunction with the SCUs." --jmb (talk) 10:48, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bond Movie

  • This discussion, started by Sparkstersfury is being moved here from the article itself. It is also shown on the MI7 talk page for the same reason.

NOTE: FOR SOME REASON, IN THE WIKIPEDIA PAGE ON 'MI7' (WHICH ALSO MENTIONS Dr.No), IT SAY'S THAT THE "MI6" LINE WAS DUBBED OVER WITH "MI7" AND NOT "MI8" AS NOTED ABOVE. WHICH ORGANISATION WAS IT DUBBED WITH, 'MI7' OR 'MI8'? (Originally posted, as shown, by User:Sparkstersfury in the article mainspace.)

Timothy Titus Talk To TT 15:39, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

A brief internet search quickly reveals multiple sources for this incident. The original words "MI6" were dubbed with the words "MI7" at this point in the film, even though an earlier reference to "MI6" was left unmolested - thus creating a continuity issue within the film. It also created a continuity issue within the series of films, as Bond's agency is clearly identified as "MI6" in many other Bond movies. There is no sign of any reference to "MI8". I have removed the material from this article, and provided two references at the MI7 article. There are many more available for those who fancy looking themselves! Timothy Titus Talk To TT 11:04, 26 October 2007 (UTC)