Talk:Mi-go

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71.96.83.27 01:54, 31 March 2007 (UTC)==Green Beret==

This page features a lot of info from the Delta Green Eyes Only, all post-Lovecraft, without pointing out that it essentially comes from one man's imagination.

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[edit] Hastur cult

Which story is it that states that Hastur despises the Mi-go, and that his cult is dedicated to hunting them down? It must not be an actual Lovecraft story, (as Lovecraft never actually had Hastur in any of his tales). Was it a Derleth story?

Hastur's cult is mentioned in Lovecraft's works, for instance The Whisperer in Darkness. Quote (allegedly of Henry Akeley): There is a whole secret cult of evil men (a man of your mystical erudition will understand me when I link them with Hastur and the Yellow Sign) devoted to the purpose of tracking them down and injuring them on behalf of monstrous powers from other dimensions. Aragorn2 19:09, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
It should be noted that this doesn't actually assert that they are worshippers of Hastur; Hastur is a word that does appear in Lovecraft, but never explicitly as the name of a deity.
Note also that some of what that character says, including at least one claim about Hastur's cult, seems like a flat lie. And the Mi-go's human ally Noyes says on the recording, "so from the wells of night to the gulfs of space, and from the gulfs of space to the wells of night, ever the praises of Great Cthulhu, of Tsathoggua, and of Him Who is not to be Named," which seems to mean that he honors Hastur along with the others. Incidentally, Whisperer confirms that Mi-go consist of "a form of matter totally alien to our part of space". The first evidence of this comes from a letter that Akeley writes before his "increased rapport" with the aliens, and the next letter confirms it. Dan 23:08, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] shoggoths

Why does the article suggest that Mi-go may have originated from the shoggoths? Since At the Mountains of Madness seems to say that shoggoths consist of ordinary Earth matter (unlike the Mi-go; see previous comment), and tells us that different aliens who seem baffled by unearthly matter created them long before the Mi-go came to Earth, and gives us no reason to think that shoggoths can travel between planets, it seems like any race that originated on Earth has more chance than the Mi-go of having descended from these ex-slaves. Dan 23:30, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I'd add that the Mi-Go are mentioned in At the Mountains of Madness as warring with the Old Ones (Elder Things) after they arrived on earth, pushing the Old Ones out of the northern hemisphere land settlements. In fact it suggests that the Mi-Go were mostly victorious over the Old Ones prior to the Old Ones' complete decline.

[edit] Original research

The following section appears to be original research:

There is an episode of Star Trek: the Next Generation entitled "Night Terrors" which may feature the Mi-Go. The Mi-Go in "The Whisperer in Darkness" communicate by clicking their pincers and are said to be consummate surgeons. In the Star Trek episode, a race of extra-dimensional aliens abduct crew members in their sleep and perform medical experiments on them. The crew members' memories are blocked but as they begin to recover their memories, they remember a surgical theater-like room with strange looking aliens who communicate via clicking sounds. Although not identified as such, they resemble the Mi-Go to a great degree.

One problem I should point out is that the Mi-go communicate by changing the colors of their "heads"; it was the Great Race of Yith that communicated by clicking their pincers. In fact, these aliens could just as easily be related to the Nug-Soth, because as demonstrated in Robert M. Price's "Saucers from Yaddith" they exist in another dimension and are allegedly performing bizarre experiments on humans. For that matter, the aliens certainly looked nothing like the crab-like "winged fungous-beings" from Lovecraft's tale. Furthermore, since none of the aliens pulled a "Spock's Brain" on the crew—which would be more in keeping with the Mi-go's modus operandi—the connection with the Mi-go is very tenuous.

More likely, the episode simply picks on the alien abduction theme, and runs with it.
-,-~R'lyehRising~-,- 13:46, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
—Update. I removed the aforementioned section from the article since no sources were cited.
  -,-~R'lyehRising~-,- 03:27, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wings

I read somewhere (possibly the Call of Cthulhu rpg) that the Mi-Gos wings were only partly in this reality, hence their difficulties in normal flight. Rather than pushing against air in order to attain lift, they push against some other substance in another dimension. Again, I'm not sure where I saw this, and it may have been a modern invention intended to give a more plausible explanation for the pre-Einstein idea of "the ether of space". Thoughts? Kelvingreen 11:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps you read this in *Petersen's Field Guide to Cthulhu Monsters* (1988), which states: "Most Fungi visiting Earth have membraneous wings for pressing against a medium non-existent to us but which, omnipresent on a different plane, enables them to fly through space."

  • Their wings push against the ether - though it is stated that this is only true of a few species. It says so in "The Whisperer in Darkness". 141.140.128.107 —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 21:54, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot 05:27, 16 September 2007 (UTC)