Talk:Mezőség
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[edit] Ungureni/Unguraş
Unghureni - are you sure this is the right name? In which county is it? --Roamataa 05:28, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
- Perhaps this refers to Ungureni, a village in Cupşeni Commune, Maramureş County? But the again, I have no idea what exactly the purported borders of the Mezőség are supposed to be in terms of modern administrative units in Romania -- the article doesn't say. I fixed though the names of two of the clear geographical pointers--the Someş River (Szamos) and the Mureş River (Maros)--and added correct wikilinks to them. Also, as I indicated in the edit summary, I think the following sentence needs to be revised: "According to the newest historical founds the middle of the Mezőség was never really populated during the Middle Ages". What exactly is the geographical area and the precise dates this statement refers to? And, what is the (verifiable) source for it? Sounds very dubious to me. Turgidson 20:37, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
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- Looking again at the article, I see that there is an external link to a Map of Romania showing Mezőség's location (not mentioned in the body of the article). First, the map comes from a commercial site (a Romanian Gift Shop in Chicago selling Romanian dolls) -- is this really encyclopedic material on which to base this article? And second, the map itself hints at the Mezőség as being a smallish region around Cluj-Napoca (number 3 on the map). So scratch the village in Maramureş County... At any rate, does the Mezőség coincide with present-day Cluj County, or is it something different? And, again, how come the area around Cluj/Kolozsvár/Klausenburg was "never really populated during the Middle Ages"? According to History of Cluj-Napoca, that's not the case (there is even a section titled "Middle Ages" in that article!) Turgidson 20:52, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
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- According to one of the external links this area should be in Cluj County. Maybe Unguraş?
- If the area is about Câmpia Transilvaniei - well it's another thing and will be in a proper named article, like Transylvania Plain (or something like this).
- I saw that sentence and it seems strange to me also, without any source at all. --Roamataa 20:57, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
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- OK, but isn't Câmpia Transilvaniei to the East of Cluj-Napoca, more towards Târgu Mureş? See here a map showing the approximate location (the map comes from a textbook publisher). Is this the area the article refers to? Turgidson 21:04, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
- As for the Transylvania Plain, see Transylvanian Plateau. Turgidson 21:09, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
- One more thing: ro.wiki has a stub on ro:Câmpia Transilvaniei, which points to a non-existent article on en.wiki, at Transylvania plain. Que pasa? Turgidson 21:13, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
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- I don't know who wrote the phrase According to the newest historical founds the middle of the Mezőség was never really populated during the Middle Ages, but it looks a bit strange to me. Not citing any sources and very POV. If there are no objections, I would remove it from the article. Alexrap 18:24, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Move of the article
I think the article should be moved to Câmpia Transilvaniei, as it is about an ethnogeographical region that still exists today. Both names, Romanian and Hungarian should be kept, but we should try and keep consistency with other articles. Alexrap (talk) 11:02, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
