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[edit] Location of Mexico

We are having a big discussion in our household. My 9 year old and I both agree that THE UNITED STATES and MEXICO are both part of NORTH AMERICA. Now, my 13 year old and his SOCIAL STUDIES teachers have said MEXICO is not part of THE UNITED STATES and NORTH AMERICA, but that it is really a part of SOUTH AMERICA.

Now we have viewed this over the INTERNET and my 9 year old and I are both right.

If anyone has any discussion about this, please feel free to edit.

Alicia Renee Landrum

Mexico and the United States of America are both part of the continent of North America, along with about 20 other countries. There is a list of all the countries in North America in the article. (Click on the name to go to the article.)
There is sometimes confusion because in addition to the continents of North and South America, there are Geographic Regions.
The geographic regions include Central America and Middle America. These are very important regions but they are not continents.
Mexico is part of Middle America. It is not part of South America or Central America. However it is commonly accepted that Mexico is part of Central America. UEFA has chosen to classify it as such in the World Cup qualifiers.
This is an old discussion so I don't even know why I bother answering, but just to respond to the comment above that was made recientely, Mexico is in North America (region) along with Canada and the United States, below Mexico there is Central America, there is also this rarely used term called "Middle America" which includes Mexico, Colombia, Venezuela, Central America and the Caribbean. Supaman89 (talk) 02:09, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Mexico is in "southern North America". Perhaps that was what the teacher said. Wanderer57 (talk) 23:59, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
North America shown in Mauve (Greenland), Blue (Mexico, the USA & Canada), Green (Central America), and Red (Caribbean). South America is in Orange
North America shown in Mauve (Greenland), Blue (Mexico, the USA & Canada), Green (Central America), and Red (Caribbean). South America is in Orange

Mexico is part of North America, I hope that image on the right can help you, you can check other languages for more information, cheers. Supaman89 (talk) 15:51, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

French: fr:Amérique du Nord
Italian: it:America settentrionale
Spanish: es:América del Norte
Portuguese: pt:América do Norte
German: de:Nordamerika
Romanian: ro:America de Nord
and so on.

(Click image to enlarge.) Wanderer57 (talk) 20:43, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

What may be a little more controversial is which contries comprise "Latin America". However, México is not often part of that controversy, as it is almost always considered to be a part of Latin America. Yes, It is definitely considered part of North America. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.59.224.32 (talk) 23:14, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Name translations

We need to do some work on standardizing proper name versions and translations, not only for México, but throughout Wikipedia. Focusing on México, the proper names should be the "Spanish" versions. Even though the article is in English, the country is not. So, even the "common" name for México should be stated as "México". Then, yes, there are official English versions of the names. These should be stated as such along with any reference that makes them so. (For example--to be researched and verified--the US Bureau of Standards specified English versions, the US Congress specified recognized English versions, the Mexican congress specified English versions, etc.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.59.224.32 (talk) 23:18, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

The actual name of the article, however, can certainly be left in the English common version, "Mexico", because it is an English encyclopedia and the most commonly used version of the name. However, the name should be clearly disambiguated so that any proper spelling leads to--and is validated by--the same article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.59.224.32 (talk) 23:23, 6 May 2008 (UTC)



[edit] wow

(disambiguation). Estados Unidos Mexicanos United Mexican States

Flag Coat of arms

Anthem: "Himno Nacional Mexicano" "Mexican National Anthem"


Capital (and largest city) Mexico City 19°03′N, 99°22′W Official languages None at federal level. Spanish (de facto) National language Spanish, and 62 Indigenous Amerindian languages.[1] Demonym Mexican Government Federal presidential republic

-  President Felipe Calderón

(PAN) Independence from Spain

-  Declared September 16, 1810  
-  Recognized September 27, 1821

Area

-  Total 1,972,550 km² (15th)

761,606 sq mi

-  Water (%) 2.5

Population

-  2007 estimate 108,700,891 (11th) 
-  2005 census 103,263,388  
-  Density 55/km² (142nd)

142/sq mi GDP (PPP) 2006 estimate

-  Total $1.149 trillion (12th) 
-  Per capita $12.775 (60th)

GDP (nominal) 2006 estimate

-  Total $840.012 billion (short scale) (14th) 
-  Per capita $8,066 (55th)

Gini (2006) 47.3 (high) HDI (2007) ▲ 0.829 (high) (52nd) Currency Mexican peso (MXN) Time zone U.S Central to Western (UTC-8 to -6) Internet TLD .mx Calling code +52 The United Mexican States[2] (Spanish: Estados Unidos Mexicanos (help·info)), or commonly Mexico (IPA: /ˈmɛksɪkoʊ/) (Spanish: México (help·info) Spanish pronunciation: [ˈmexiko]), is a federal constitutional republic in North America. It is bordered on the north by the United States; on the south and west by the North Pacific Ocean; on the southeast by Guatemala, Belize, and the Caribbean Sea; and on the east by the Gulf of Mexico.[3][4] The United Mexican States is a federation comprising thirty-one states and a federal district, the capital Mexico City, whose metropolitan area is one of the world's most populous.

Covering almost 2 million square kilometers,[5] Mexico is the fifth-largest country in the Americas by total area and the 14th largest in the world. With an estimated population of 109 million,[6] it is the 11th most populous country and the most populous Spanish-speaking country in the world.

As a regional power[7][8] and the only Latin American member of the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) since 1994, Mexico is firmly established as an upper middle-income country[9].

Mexico is the 12th largest economy in the world by GDP by purchasing power parity. The economy is strongly linked to those of its North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) partners, despite being considered an emerging world power[10] the country's social and security problems keep it away from being effective.

Elections held in July 2000 marked the first time that an opposition party won the presidency from the Institutional Revolutionary Party ("Partido Revolucionario Institucional" : PRI) which had held it since 1929, culminating the political alternation at the federal level, which had begun at the local level during the 1980s. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.104.79.105 (talk) 21:28, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Metropolitan areas table

I said it was vandalism because this is not the first time it happens, I usually put an explanation to every edition I make but this time (as usual) it was reverted with no summary at all (like if I didn't explained why) anyways, the two tables are basically the same, the "metropolitan areas" one was already there and it was fine, then Joao Felipe came and for no reason changed it for another one being pretty much the same (why? I don’t know), after I reverted it and explained why (again), he reverted it again with no comment... Supaman89 (talk) 21:54, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

No comments does not mean WP:Vandalism. If it is a matter of taste, I actually prefer his format. But this is the place to discuss, not to accuse each other of vandalism. --the Dúnadan 01:00, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry mate, but this is not the first time it happens with him, how would you feel if you put an explanation for you edits and I reverted it just like that with no comment, anyway you know the old table looked better, let's not make a big issue out of this, I'll just put it back so we can continue improving the article, cheers? Supaman89 (talk) 02:00, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I know the old table looks better? Didn't you read what I wrote? In design, I prefer his proposal. Secondly, please review what vandalism is. Not writing an edit summary is not vandalism. Engaging in an edit war by "putting it back" it not the way to go, mate. --the Dúnadan 02:09, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
I don't know which table was whose, but they pretty much are the same. If we're voting on preference, I think the one that lists them in 2 columns with the pictures in the middle looks a little better because it doesn't seem to take up as much of the page. Also, I noticed someone changed it from "metropolitan areas" to "core cities." Would it be better to change it back to metropoiltan areas; I think "core cities" sounds a little strange to me (just an opinion). Kman543210 (talk) 02:21, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Well, this is the thing: the population figures cited are those of metropolitan areas, but the list (an links) are of cities, the main cities - also called core cities in demographics. So, in reality, Monterrey only has 1.1 milion inhabitants, but Greater Monterrey has 3.8 million. The problem is that the author/s of the table were mixing two different concepts, that of cities and that of metropolitan areas. So, if we want to keep the table as is, and if we do not want to misinform, then the title of the table should be "metropolitan areas" and the title of the column should be "core cities". But any other option, as long as it is accurate, could work. --the Dúnadan 02:40, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Kman543210 there was already a Metropolitan Areas table, and then for no reason user Joao Felipe changed it for another being pretty much the same (that itself is pointless) second of all, if he wanted to changed the table's look, he should've gone to the table's template not remove it and chage it here (as he did), third of all even though I explained to him why his edition was reverted he (as usual) reverted it again with no explanation, anyways Kman543210, here is the original and only template, there was no reason to be changed for another one practically identical. Supaman89 (talk) 02:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC) See the original template at:{{Largest cities of Mexico‎}}

Supaman, don't start an unecessary conflict. I will repeat myself for the third time:
  • Nothing prevents a user from replacing a template with another template. Templates can be changed, replaced or deleted, if the community so wishes to. He made a proposal, you dislike it, and you revert it back.
  • The reason to change it was aesthetics, just as many templates are constantly being changed. You yourself have changed that same template in the past. If you dislike the proposed new formatted version, you should object to it by discussing, not by reverting back.
--the Dúnadan 02:48, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
I did see the two different tables, and Supaman is correct that they are practically the same; however, the replacement seems to take up a little less room and appears to be a little more symmetrical to have 2 columns on each side with the pictures in the middle. Again, either is fine, but that is just my preference/opinion (if feedback was wanted). I can't comment on the reverting or templates, just the appearance of the two tables that are very similar. Kman543210 (talk) 02:53, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

All I'm saying is that if he wants to propose the change he should go to the template's talkpage and propose it there, not come here and immediatly change it for no reason, further more if I tell him the reason why I reverted his edition he should at least give an explanation not just ignore me and do it again, so again if he wants to modify the template to look like the one he proposed is fine but he needs to propose it there, until then the article should stay the way it was, that is with the old version. Supaman89 (talk) 03:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Ever read WP:BOLD?--the Dúnadan 16:38, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Look, if he's really interested in changing the table's appearance (which he's not) then he can go to the template's talk page and propose it any time, meanwhile the article has to stay the way it was until people there approve his change. Supaman89 (talk) 21:30, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Dunadan, now I understand what you're saying about the numbers, thanks for clarifying. You're right that if it says metropolitan area, then the stats and ranking in the table should reflect that. The word "core city" just threw me off, but maybe it was just me. Thanks again Kman543210 (talk) 03:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
We could use "city proper" if that makes more sense.--the Dúnadan 16:38, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Social Development section

I was thinking on adding a Social Development section, to include some facts and statistics about the life standards in Mexico, if anyone wants to help me to redact the section you're welcome to help me, like when we added the Health Care section, well that's pretty much it, all proposal and suggestions are welcome. Supaman89 (talk) 20:58, 11 June 2008 (UTC)