Talk:Mexican War of Independence

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[edit] Valladolid

Is this a reference to Valladolid, Yucatán or to Morelia, Michoacán, then known as Valladolid? Yucatán seems a bit off the beaten track for the insurgents, in light of their other theatres of activity. –Hajor 18:52, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I just noticed this. I believe you are right that the link should be to Morelia. Yucatán was at the time only accessible by sea from the rest of Mexico, not somewhere that could be "marched" to. -- Infrogmation 17:04, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

It is Morelia, at the time Valladolid from the province of Michoacán. The city was renamed in 1828 after Jose María MORELOS y Pavon, second in command of the Insurgent Army.

[edit] Date of the signing of the Treaty of Córdoba ?

According to the Treaty of Córdoba page, it was signed on August 24, 1821, not "1821 September 27" mentioned on the Mexican War of Independence page. August'21 was also mentioned on the Córdoba, Veracruz page. Can someone in the know confirm the date, please ? Thanks. -- PFHLai 20:17, 2005 August 22 (UTC)

Encyclopædia Britannica says its Aug. 24, 1821 [1], so I'm going to revise the article accordingly. -- PFHLai 04:25, 2005 August 23 (UTC)

September 27 1821, is the date when the "trigarante" army enters Mexico City and is considered as the date of the Mexican War of Independenc

[edit] What day did Hidalgo die on ?

this page lists july 31, but the hidalgo entry lists july 30 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_Hidalgo

He died on July 30, days later after the other insurgents because of his excomulgation process

[edit] POV?

To me this looks POV towards the rebels. For instance: in the table the rebels are called 'Mexico' instead of rebels/revolutionaries/terrorists. Also, it states that the royalists killed 450.000 civilians, no number given of civilians killed by the rebels. From the text I understand the rebels killed civilians. It would be remarkable if the guerilla war did not have royalists civilians (collaborators) as victims. Pukkie 12:51, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Pukkie,
True, there could be more details and quantitative estimates on the atrocities committed by the rebels. For instance, the 1810 siege of Guanajuato and ensuing massacre of loyalist Mexicans is one of many dark pages in Mexico's history. There were doubtless many other massacres by both sides, which may not have been recorded because of the localized and even personal nature of many episodes.
On the other hand, for the sake of legalism, the table is correct in labeling the rebels "Mexico," because the uprising was initiated after Hidalgo's proclamation of Mexican independence on Sept. 15, 1810. Because in later years this date came to be considered Mexico's de jure (though not de facto) independence day, the actions of the rebels can be considered those of Mexico. Indeed, in modern historical analysis, the history of independent Mexico heavily depends upon Hidalgo's grito as a marker--one speaks of the era before the grito and of the era after it. --Unregistered user