Talk:Mexican Mafia
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[edit] Reliable sources will not be available
Yes, there are a variety of gang readers and studies available. However, no scholarly research to date exists on prison gangs. In order for this research to be done in proper ethnographic method, the researcher must get incarcerated and risk his/her life in the prison system to get information. So, the complaint that "citations are needed" cannot be alleviated unless this research is done. The way things work in gangs are on a de facto basis. Rules are rarely written down. So, most of what's written here will be based on those word of mouth accounts. The continued "citation needed" should either be removed or somehow explained. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yesitsnot (talk • contribs) 22:04, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
-->Though Alonso at Streetgangs.com would put the number at far less than a million given the way he tallys his statistics; I would argue that 1 million La Raza gang members in the US is certainly possible given the substantiated population of 45 million plus the Pew Center's recent revision of their 12 million estimate to 20 million for illegal aliens the vast majority which come from Latin America combined with the strong sense of identity to neighborhood or "barrio". I grew up in Los Angeles (a city with over 10 million people in a state where the predominant race is Latino) and the pull of gangs here is very real on a block by block, barrio by barrio, city by city, county by county basis and I have no doubt that 1 million is quite real. The challenge, of course, is to substantiate that statistically. Most gangmembers do not end up declared gangmembers in prison or on law enforcement's gang roll. They have to get caught for that to occur. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.4.78.119 (talk) 17:15, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] How about the Mexican mafia that operates in Mexico
The article needs to be discussed in a wider spectre, so that the history of the other Mexican mafia, the one that operates in Mexico, can be discussed as well.
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--- La eMe is known to sometimes commit group criminal activities in the areas of Tijuana and so forth. http://www.geocities.com/jiggy2000_us/emetimeline.html --- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr716 (talk • contribs) 01:41, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
There is no 'mafia' in mexico.. its a drug cartel, several actually and they do not all do business with eme. An organized crime syndicate and a drug cartel are 2 different things and most drug cartels would probably have nothing to do with a prison gang, especially considering that prison gang members are notorious drug addicts. Fact is the eme is a distributor for 1 of these cartels but only as far as the southern california hispanic gangs reach goes. Thats were eme gets its distribution network and most of its profit from. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.3.132.16 (talk) 09:34, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Business
What is also interesting to note is the buisness level the Mexican Mafia has with other criminal organizations. The conduct a large amount of "buisness" with the Aryan Brotherhood (AB) and most recently we learned (courtesy of fox news) the Arellano drug cartel operating in Tiajuana, Mexico.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.9.8.23 (talk • contribs) 05:41, 31 January 2007.
[edit] Homosexualism
Under the membership rules, it states, "Don't Be a Homosexual." I find it puzzling since many male prisoners do have same-sex relationships. Isn't that hypocritical?"—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.110.201.162 (talk • contribs) 19:00, 27 February 2007.
- My cellmate was Eme at one point in TDCJ... I assure you that gangs in prison take this very seriously because it makes the whole gang look bad... Despite what one would think it is rather controlled.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Species2112 (talk • contribs) 18:07, 20 April 2007.
- No, Surenos and La Eme don't have same-sex partners or rape men in prison. People outside the gang and other gangs do that.German16rs 18:14, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
>La Eme does not have same-sex relationships. It's prohibited to have same-sex relationships if you're a member of The Mexican Mafia.
Im sorry but this nonsense about eme guys not having gays with them or raping people is a total crock! These guys DO rape & DO have homo's in their gang. How the hell are you not going to have rapists and gays in a group of con's allot of them lifers on top of it? What they do not do is have outward gay relationships while inside, however outside.. that is whole other story. I know this for a fact because I've known several gangmembers who were involved with shotcallers or were shotcallers in Chino, Folsom & Quentin. In fact I watched 2 guys who I know were involved with collecting rent from west side playboys walk into a gay club togther in hollywood and its just so happens to also be a place where you can often find gay gangbangers hooking up. This is 100% true. I believe the place is on Western however I forget the name of the other street. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.3.132.16 (talk) 09:22, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Sinebot you are bullshitting the Surenos out here. If you are a homosexual you are either shot, or put out of the gang. They may have been once in the gang but no longer, and still "bang" or rep wat they used to claim. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.62.19.2 (talk) 19:09, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Surenos
what the hell happened to the Surenos page its gone —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcanmoocanu (talk • contribs) 01:58, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
I agree, I clicked on the surenos page and got this instead. Surenos are not all Mexican mafia members; while there may be some overlap, even a lot of it, making an assumption like this is insensitive and prejudiced.Angel of Mons (talk) 01:42, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Look, if you really want to know all about the Mexican Mafia, just read Ramon "Mundo" Mendoza's book, "From Altar Boy to Hit Man". Mendoza was a Captain in the Mexican Mafia and was Joe Morgan's right-hand man in the 1970's. He was the character "Mundo" in the movie "American Me. He's now in the Witness Protection Program. Search for it on Google or Yahoo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Armanvamp (talk • contribs) 00:46, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Sureños
The norteños have their own article and how come not the Sureños. ESExSOLO (talk) 02:42, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
- They did, but it got redirected to here. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sureños. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 03:24, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] the surenos
you should make a section for the surenos, all the street gangs that work for la eme —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.233.86.230 (talk) 07:43, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
