Talk:Meuse-Rhenish

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The name Meuse-Rhenish has apparently been proposed by somebody named Ad Welschen in a local course hand-out. It has apparently not been published, let alone accepted among dialect researchers. Hence, it is original research that should have no place in Wikipedia. Klassi 23:58, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

No, this concept can also be found in some recent German literature, where its equivalent is Rheinmaasländish. The Dutch linguist Welschen introduced the same concept in Dutch from a reversed west-east perspective, which happens to be slightly more appropriate, because the core area of Low Franconian lies in the Low Countries. So Meuse-Rhenish seems to be the best label in English. Ad43 13:16, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
If the term has independently been proposed in the German literature, then this page would well be served by some references. I did not dispute the appropriateness of the term, only its acceptance among researchers. Wikipedia is not the place for introducing one's own terms. Klassi 23:05, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

We already knew. Ad43 21:48, 30 January 2007 (UTC)