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One remark

Thank you for the new Polynomial expansion article. One remark: the links to sum and product need fixing, as they point now to disambiguation pages instead of the math concept. Thanks. :) Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 03:51, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

And the edit summary. :) Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 04:56, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Re:Graphing software

I wrote my own graphing app and I drew some graphs with it to test it. It's not quite in a state where I can distribute it to others though :) If you want an easy, free graphing tool, try Winplot. enochlau (talk) 09:37, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

LaTeX as HTML

I'm sorry, but I don't know the first thing about LaTeX, or how the Wikimedia software handles it. A good place to start or ask for advice might be meta:help:Formula. Michael Z. 2006-03-17 04:24 Z

LaTeX rendered as HTML

Technical part:

Math it rendered as either HTML (CSS class "texhtml"), or PNG (CSS class "tex").

The rules controlling their display are [1]:

img.tex {
        vertical-align: middle;
}
span.texhtml {
        font-family: serif;
}


Ideological part:

I didn't write that CSS, but serif is probably more like the font used to typeset math in paper math books, and someone thought it would look ugly to use sans serif for it or something like that. Sans serif is simply the default font in most browsers, so it wasn't touched. I guess that making everything serif would probably improve readability, but it's not very likely that it would be done, as too many people are used to the sans serif by now. Taw 23:39, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

disambiguate to limit

I notice that you've been disambiguating several links from limit to limit (mathematics). I guess the latter article is more specific and closer to the article you want, but that itself is a disambig page, disambiguating between limit of a function, limit of a sequence, net (topology), and limit (category theory). Ideally, all links to limit (mathematics) should be further disambiguated. -lethe talk + 14:53, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I didn't notice that. I'll disambiguate further in the future. --Mets501talk 14:55, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Also, I wonder if I can convince you to use lower case, thus:

[[limit (mathematics)|limit]]

The problem is that the capital letter seems to cause some editors to think it is necessary to use a capital, and then they start doing it in visible links, starting a common noun with a capital letter in the middle of a sentence. Michael Hardy 02:05, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

banjolin*

glad to see you cleaning up the banjoline and banjolin pages a bit - nice to know someone's actually read them! Eitch 01:36, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Wiki toolbar

You recommended the wiki toolbar over at the village pump. I wonder if you can help me, I downloaded it after your comment, and on the format button the no wiki parsing doesn't work, nor do user defined formats I've tried adding. I assume that I alter the text <format>SELECTION</format> to read <ref>SELECTION</ref>, and then when I click that it should insert <ref>null</ref> into the window. I'm no programmer, just an average joe, so I apologise if I'm getting something simple wrong. I also apologise if you, too, are an average joe. Steve block talk

thanks, I see now what I was doing wrong, I wasdn't highlighting the text before clicking the format. Thanks for your help and your mentioning the toolbar in the first place. Steve block talk 16:23, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

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Accidental blanking

You just, it seems, accidentally blanked a huge chunk of WP:AN/I ([2]). Just thought I'd better let you know so you can keep an eye out for it in future... Shimgray | talk | 17:48, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

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VandalProof revert

Hi there. Can I ask on what grounds you reverted this edit of mine to Columbo? It's not factually incorrect, and it's certainly not vandalism. If it was just a mistake, feel free to revert it back. Thanks. —Whouk (talk) 17:45, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

No problem, thanks for confirming it. —Whouk (talk) 18:05, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

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Since this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you that the elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on 2006-04-29. Please vote here. Thanks. --Celestianpower háblame 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Your RfA

Hi, I've added a question to your RfA. I'd appreciate if you would take a look at it when you have a minute. Thanks. JoshuaZ 03:37, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

I just answered them at the RfA page. Thanks so much for the questions! They'll definitely help people make a decision one way or another. --Mets501talk • contribs 11:25, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Just wanted to express my support for a second RfA in the near future. I voted neutral, based mostly on wanting to see a little more time and experience first, but it'd be a shame to not have you as an admin here — you're quite talented. If you think to, please advise me the next time you're up for consensus. On an unrelated note, I enjoyed looking over your web site. Tijuana Brass¡Épa!-E@ 01:56, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

You just need to get some more experience with wikipedia processes like WP:AfD and then people will support you. You have heaps of good edits and I'm pretty sure that lack of WP experience was the only reason for the oppose votes. I will gladly support you on your next RfA. Good luck next time and keep up the good work! DarthVader 02:09, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks so much both of you for your votes and comments! I certainly will look into the WP:AfD process and will continue to make main space article edits as well. I'll remember to alert you when I run again later. (Thanks for the compliments as well!) --Mets501talk • contribs 02:25, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Reference desk

Mets, have you considered assisting at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Mathematics? You're a personable guy, and it seems right up your alley. Tijuana Brass¡Épa!-E@ 06:54, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I haven't, yet. Thanks so much for recommending it! I will definitely look into it soon. --Mts501talk 11:42, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

rfa

Thanks for the support on my RFA. Unfortunately, it did not achieve consensus. I look forward to your support in a couple months when I apply again. Holler at me if you need anything. SWATJester Ready Aim Fire! 19:21, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Oglebay Park

This came up at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous#Will you review my article "Oglebay Park/Temp"?. I looked at the orignal article which you had marked as a copyvio. If you take a look at Wikipedia:Copyrights#If you find a copyright infringement you can just revert back or remove the part that's a copyvio. I've done that now and stuck out the section on Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2006 April 30. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 04:45, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry it took me so long to respond. I wasn't aware that you didn't have to mark a section as a copyvio and report it; you could just delete it and add a message on the talk page, so long as it wasn't the entire article that was a copyvio. Thanks so much for writing to tell me. Also, I merged the article from Oglebay Park/Temp into the main article. Thanks again. —Mets501talk 21:30, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

A landslide victory for The JPS (aka RFA thanks)

Hey, Mets501/Complete Archives, thank you so much for your vote and comments in my RfA, which passed with an overwhelming consensus of 95/2/2. I was very surprised and flattered that the community has entrusted me with these lovely new toys. I ripped open the box and started playing with them as soon as I got them, and I've already had the pleasure of deleting random nonsense/attacks/copyvios tonight.
If I ever do anything wrong, or can help in some way, please feel free to drop me a line on my talk page, and I will do my best to correct my mistake, or whatever...
Now, to that bottle of wine waiting for me...

The JPS talk to me 22:45, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

May the Force be with you.

Dear Mets501/Complete Archives,

Thanks for voting on my RFA! I appreciate your faith in me, and was overwhelmed by the positive response to my RFA; for it shows that at least I'm doing something right. :) I've started working to improve myself already, and I hope that next time, things run better, and maybe, just maybe, one day we can bask on the shores of Admintopia together. Thanks and cheers, _-M o P-_ 21:52, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

My RFA

Hello Mets501/Complete Archives, and thanks for supporting me on my recent request for adminship! It has succeeded with an unanimous support of 67 votes, so that I am now an administrator. Please feel free to leave a note on my talk page should you wish to leave any comments or ask for any help. Again, thanks a lot, AndyZ t 21:59, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

piping links

Thanks for the tip. I am usually looking through the code for the page for spelling errors, and don't notice things like that. Luckily, I don't do it very often. — ßottesiηi Tell me what's up 22:18, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!

Hello, Mets501/Complete Archives, and thank you for vote on my recent RfA! With a final vote of 62/2/4, I have now been entrusted with the mop, bucket and keys. As I acclimate myself to my new tools, feel free to let me know how you believe I might be able to use them to help the project. Thanks again! RadioKirk talk to me 05:19, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

AfD Overseas doctor

I think you contributed a delete vote, but didn't sign it - can you correct if willing? Many thanks, --Smerus 17:41, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

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Hello

Hello, I just wanted to let you know that I was browsing through past RfA's (sorry that your's did not go through) and saw your answer to JoshuaZ's question recently. I hope you do not mind, but I've quoted your answer on my userpage, as something I believe important that you have described wonderfully. Let me know if you object. Have a good day, Chuck(척뉴넘) 13:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

MyPersonalEmail.com

Hi, please stop deleting our edits allowing information on MyPersonalEmail.com . We are following the rules, and we can figure out the AFD discussion we will get that solved. We have been noted in the Tulsa World Newspaper October 28 2001 Sunday edition and many AP sources picked up our press in their wires. Thank you for your help. You may email me at postmaster@mypersonalemail.com

Thanks for voting on my RfA

Mahogany

My RFA

Uhh... Sorry I didn't think about it, I was just going to reformat the first one I liked, change the words to fit my needs and use it. Really whatever I can do to pay you back just say it. (I'm forever in your debt!) Mahogany

I really feel stupid now so really I'll help you out in any way! Mahogany
Don't worry about it at all! I'm honored that someone else liked my RfA note enough to use it themselves! —Mets501talk 21:35, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 May 11

I just encountered an odd edit conflict, and when I checked the Hostory, I found that I'd deleted your comments; I've gone through the History and tried to replace them all, but you might want to check that I've for them all (and got them right). Sorry about this. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 22:57, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Conservative Party UK reversions

I know I shouldnt bother responding to your slightly prissy administering, but I couldnt resist. Yes, I know the long term (unattainable) goal is that everything on wp be sourced, but really this just puts me off contributing. I have no idea how to cite these anecdotal but self-evidently true contribs. The whole thing is getting so formal that I'll just leave all the wrongness and incompleteness to fester next time. I'm angry. I know you dont mean any personal slight. But that is how I feel. When a fork appears of the whole damn thing, which it surely will, that people without a degree in the article's subject can contribute to without wasting their time, maybe I'll get back my community spirit. Here I go, getting the hell outta dodge...

Your vote on my RFA

Thank you for voting on my RFA, however I have decided to withdraw my nomination. Apparently, I'm not experienced enough and my RFA wasn't set up to the Wikilord's standards. Good to see that at least you see that I'm useful and trustworthy, however I'm still going to have to type out plenty of unique votes. :) —THIS IS MESSEDImage:R with umlaut.pngOCKER (TALK) 20:29, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

My RFA

Hi Mets501/Complete Archives,

Thank you for supporting my RFA! Unfortunately it did not succeed mainly because most opposers wanted me to spend more time on Wikipedia. Thank you for your faith in me & looking forward to your continued support in the future.

Cheers

Srikeit(talk ¦ ) 00:54, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Alright, that's enough

Hey, hey, hey! How you do, do, do! You think I vandalised Eddie Guerrero? If I did that, he'd beat me up. Get something right, Mets501: I actually contributed in great wellness. Tell me how I vandalised, mister HeeHee. Go ahead, Vatos homey.

Changing World Championship Wrestling to World Cock Wrestling is vandalism to me. —Mets501talk 03:49, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Quote

Hi. The quotation you mention is from JRR Tolkien, and not, as often stated, from JRR Tolkein. Sorry for being meticulous. Perhaps this website might be interesting for you. Tolkien society —Preceding unsigned comment added by Philip ea (talkcontribs)

Glad you like it

Thanks for your note. I quite enjoyed writing it. Bucketsofg 22:59, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for converting my time to UTC! --mboverload@ 00:59, 14 May 2006 (UTC)


You deserve yourself a barnstar.

For your tireless work on reverting vandalism on WIkipedia, and helping to make this place better for everyone.
For your tireless work on reverting vandalism on WIkipedia, and helping to make this place better for everyone.

Thanks for your hard work! --Pilot|guy 16:03, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Romanian Orthodox Church

Thank you for your message. The history of the Romanian Orthodox Church begans at 1872. Similary the one of the Church of Greece begans 1850. The informations which I correct were not exact. I don´t undersand why do you presume that the informations which I amend werde right. "In 1698 in Transylvania, a part of the Romanian Orthodox Church"... 1698 didn't exist a "Romanian Orthodox Church" because it was founded 170 years later. Or do you presume that the ROC is older than the greek one??? The content of the article is now (after your revert) pure romanian orthodox propaganda. Just as you like. --Mihai Andrei 17:37, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Re Accidental revert

No problem! Tearlach 19:50, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Highway's RfA

Request for Adminship
Thank you for supporting/objecting/tropicanising me in my request for Adminship. Although I wasn't promoted to admin status, with a final vote count of 14/27/12, I am very happy with the response I received from my fellow Wikipedians. I was pleasantly suprised at the support, and was touched by it. I will also work harder on preventing disputes and boosting my edit count (which is on the up), so thank you to all your objectors. Hopefully I will re-apply soon and try again for the mop. Thanks again, Highway Rainbow Sneakers

My RfA

Dear Mets501 — Thank you for your support on my recent RfA. It succeeded with a final tally of 72/2/0 and I am now an administrator. I'll be taking things slowly at first and getting used to the new tools, but please let me know if there's any adminnery I can help you with in the future. —Whouk (talk) 18:12, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

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Mets501/Complete Archives, thank you you so much for validating my RfA! I am grateful for all the supportive comments, and have taken both the positive and constructive on board. If I can ever make any improvements or help out in any way, please let me know, ditto if you see me stumble! Thanks again for your much appreciated support. Deizio talk 18:07, 17 May 2006 (UTC)


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Manganate

Hi I saw that you deleted my data tabel on K2MnO4 from the Manganate report. Rather than discarding the data, it is probably preferrable to create an article on K2MnO4 and then divvy up the content. It just seems a shame to discard the info. Comments please?--Smokefoot 02:25, 20 May 2006 (UTC) Thanks for the note - okay, I am creating the new one on K2MnO4. Thanks for the needed nudge. --Smokefoot 02:38, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Sukh's RFA - Thanks!

Thank you for your vote on my RfA. Unfortunately there was no consensus reached at 43 support, 18 oppose and 8 neutral. I've just found out that there is a feature in "my preferences" that forces me to use edit summaries. I've now got it enabled :) Thanks again. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 15:54, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

References necessary for number articles

In answer to your question in an edit summary for 666, references ARE necessary for number articles. Although you don't need a reference to say something like 36 = 6^2 that anyone can verify with a calculator or even by hand, you do need references for things that are disputed and/or harder to verify. Is the apocalyptical number 616 or 666? Answering that question requires knowledge of some ancient texts, languages like Greek and Aramaic, early church history, etc. In short, the sort of things that a calculator can't give you the answer to. PrimeFan 20:06, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

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After a lenghty, but much-needed Wikibreak, I'm happy to announce that version 1.2 of VandalProof is now available for download! Beyond fixing some of the most obnoxious bugs, like the persistent crash on start-up that many have experienced, version 1.2 also offers a wide variety of new features, including a stub-sorter, a global user whitelist and blacklist, navigational controls, and greater customization. You can find a full list of the new features here. While I believe this release to be a significant improvement over the last, it's nonetheless nowhere near the end of the line for VandalProof. Thanks to Rob Church, I now have an account on test.wikipedia.org with SysOp rights and have already been hard at work incorporating administrative tools into VandalProof, which I plan to make available in the near future. An example of one such SysOp tool that I'm working on incorporating is my simple history merge tool, which simplifies the process of performing history merges from one article into another. Anyway, if you haven't already, I'd encourage you to download and install version 1.2 and take it out for a test-drive. As always, your suggestions for improvement are always appreciated, and I hope that you will find this new version useful. Happy editing! --AmiDaniel (talk) 02:56, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank-you

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Merci beaucoup!

Thank you, Mets501/Complete Archives!
Thank you for voting for my recent RfA, which passed (to my extreme surprise and shock) with a total tally of 66/15/2. For that, I would like to thank you and offer a helping hand in any admin-related tasks that may be required -- it's as simple as leaving a message on my talkpage. Thanks again! -→Buchanan-Hermit/!? 22:16, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the vandalism reverts! Wow, two and a half weeks on Wikipedia and I already got on the vandals nerves. ;-) DGX 22:29, 23 May 2006 (UTC)


Reversion of Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive97

'k, so i don't think that was nonsense. I mean, yall were saying mean things about him, and i just think its sad. and i think its prefectly releant to a discussion of further aspersions your casting at him. i guess u gyz just have some nonsense formletter or something. ~72.19.73.179

My mistake. i did not know that that page was archived. mea culpa. As to calling names, though, i did not... i mean... he said he was gay and a n****r... everybody knows he's in the gnaa, which is (from the gnaa corporate web page), "the first organization which gathers GAY N*****RS from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY N****RS." But you're definitely right about not editing archived pages. mebbe i should look nxt time...

EWS23's RfA

Hello Mets501! Thank you very much for your support of my request for adminship. I especially appreciated support from fellow Esperanzans, as I know they have the highest standards for civility. Thanks again, and if you ever see something that I could be doing better, feel free to leave me a message. EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 02:54, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Learn history !

You are censoring what I write.

Why ?

You are censoring my edits to the page of the fascist latin american dictator Peron.

Has a blatant leftist bias wich is not only disgusting but ridiculous as well. If you were not a misguided american 'liberal' you'd know who peron really was and that his regime was a dictatorship. No wonder as he was military scum.

Ethylamine image

I just wanted to let you know that I replaced the image, ethylamine.png, that you created. It was in a format that is non-standard among chemists (hydrogens drawn, but carbons implicit). I replaced it with one that conforms to Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemistry/Structure drawing workgroup. If you object, please let me know. --Ed (Edgar181) 19:27, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Propylamine.png too.  :) --Ed (Edgar181) 19:46, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Adam Forkner

you removed the links i put in the image summary of the wiki entry about myself (adam forkner musician) i previously noted that i did not want the promotional shot that was used by wiki to be used and was offering, through these deleted links, some alternatives to this image, which is out of date and personally embarrassing. the images again are located here http://yarnlazer.com/whiterainbow/images/IMG_1552_2.jpg http://yarnlazer.com/whiterainbow/images/soundpillowBIG.jpg http://yarnlazer.com/whiterainbow/images/couch.jpg

Image:Yoke.xcf

Greetings! I'm just wondering what this image is.... it's uploaded under a strange extension, doesn't appear to be used anywhere, and has no source or license info. Was this a mistaken upload? I noticed looking for very large files and was wondering what was up. Thanks, Mindspillage (spill yours?) 04:29, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Yep, I can delete it; just wanted to make sure it was really a mistake. Cheers, Mindspillage (spill yours?) 13:18, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

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Somewhere in Gaudiya Math you edited the word "maths" to "mathematics". You probably thought the word maths in that context referred to the British usage of the word meaning mathematics. A math or matha is actually like a temple or an ashram. I believe it may either have a Bengali origin, or perhaps it's India wide. Should you ever see the word "maths" or mathas in an article pertaining to something in the realm of Gaudiya Vaishnavism, you may want to verify the context of the word before editing the word to "mathematics". I already corrected it, so no harm :) And I do realize it's a very obscure usage. I hope you enjoy your trip -- Siyavash 18:35, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Mass Yahoo changes

Please be aware that there are other, entirely legitimate uses of the word yahoo that are completely unrelated to the search engine, such as the usage in Joe Sacco. Please don't do these mass changes without reading the article and determining whether or not you're changing it to a correct usage. Thank you. Snoutwood (talk) 18:39, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

It's cool. :) Just wanted to make sure you're being careful. Cheers, Snoutwood (talk) 05:25, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

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Dvorak Simplified Keyboard

I sincerely thank you for cleaning up my edits to "Dvorak Simplified Keyboard".

While I take issue with the user who argues that the QWERTY layout was not designed to slow the rate of typing, my primary purpose was to help generate awareness of the classic Dvorak layout.

I have collected a few dozen articles and manufacturer advertisements on the Dvorak layout, some of which originated with organizations which now are defunct. Perhaps you would be interested in a brief sampling of the material:

A "Dvorak Keyboard -- Fact Sheet" distributed by Dvorak International Federation, Brandon, Vermont, declares regarding the QWERTY layout, "Its design was intended to slow down typists so keys would not jam on the crude early machines." In the same article is the statement, "Directory assistance operators (555-1212) in most major cities use Dvorak keyboards."

In the January 24, 1984 issue of PC Magazine is an article, "Qwerty's Ignoble Birth", in which the author unequivocally takes the position that the QWERTY layout was designed to handicap the typist and thus slow the rate of typing.

An article by Robert Schadewald in the December/January 1983 issue of Technology Illustrated titled "The Literary Piano" describes the "type-writer" (as it first was called) of Sholes and Glidden, which was marketed as the "Remington Model 1". The article states: "The Sholes and Glidden Type-Writer had no original features, its principal designer [Christopher Latham Sholes, a customs collector for the Port of Milwaukee and a former printer] considered it a failure, and Remington [Remington Firearms Company] had to be paid to produce it. But as the first typewriter marketed on a large scale, it made people conscious of typewriting, and it suggested that great financial rewards awaited the inventor of a better machine." The same article describes the key jamming problem; it states: "The striking action was sluggish, and the keys jammed if one hadn't recoiled before the next was hit. To minimize this problem, Sholes arranged the circle of typebars so that the letters commonly used in succession were as far apart as possible, and this partially dictated the inefficient "qwerty" keyboard layout that (unfortunately) we still use today."

An article, "An incredible legacy", in the May 24, 1979 issue of Electronic Design, states: "In his original Type-Writing Machine of 1872, Sholes relied on gravity alone to return the embossed letter-blanks to their home positions. The keys were suspended in a circular nest of wires beneath the platten, and too fast an operating speed invariable caused them to jam up. To solve the problem, a colleague asked his son-in-law, a Pennsylvania school superintendent, to isolate the most-often-used letter combinations in the English language. Sholes then located the combinations as far apart from each other on the keyboard as possible, and assigned their operation to the weakest of human fingers. Success! The Type-Writing Machine operator was compelled to slow down to the primitive machine's pace; key jam-ups were effectively designed out, and Sholes went on to obtain his patent. (It is interesting to note that 52% of all [the] English language is typed on the top row of letter-keys, and the top row (except for an extra Q, U and O) is extracted from none other than the word "typewriter")." Regarding the Dvorak layout, the same article states: "It was the result of a decade of physiological/language research, 250 design iterations and two sizable grants from the Carnegie foundation." Also: "Shole's legacy would have a full-time typist move his or her fingers as many as 20 miles during an eight-hour shift, but Dvorak reduces that to just one mile."

I do not plan to press the matter of the QWERTY layout as a purposeful handicap. But, should you care to add any of this material to the Wikipedia page, please note that, while perhaps there are typogaphical errors of which I am unaware, in transcribing the material I have been careful to maintain the wording, spelling, capitalization, and punctuation of the original articles, even in instances in which these items are questionable. However, please note that words in square brackets ([like this]) have been added by me.

Beaniecopter

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Sorry about those mate, you can fix em all up. Shaun Eccles-Smith 02:40, 12 June 2006 (UTC).

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Forgot to login before I started mucking around with my user page 68.149.136.136 03:14, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

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Otheruses template

Why do you call {{otheruses}} a "hideous offensive template"? You have now removed it twice from the mathematics article, and I would like to know why. "Other senses" of the word would imply alternate definitions, in fact the disambig page is just a link to a producer and some other religious thing. —Mets501 (talk) 02:07, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Why it's offensive is something I've stated many times; see that template's talk page. Numerous "otherses" templates now exist, and I've seen one that gives results that almost look like something an intelligent person could condone, but actual intelligence is better than choosing from among hundreds of individually unadaptable templates. Michael Hardy 02:39, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Allerest, Caldecort, etc.

I'm of two minds (need an Anacin, I guess). Either the editor is genuinely confused as to what should be an article, or they are experimenting as to what can exist, and for how long, as an article. Please see my comments at AfD Kondremul. Amazing. Shenme 11:48, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

removed city

Hi.

Regarding your last message about recently removed content from 'Largest cities of the European Union by population within city limits' article, I removed Novi Sad with reason (sorry for making edit without explanation), it was my mistake done in an update I made earlier today. That city couldn't get into top 100 cities in enlarged EU (the smallest city on the list is Wiesbaden in Germany with population of 274,318 and Novi Sad has population of 216,583).

Thanks.

AfD Project Page

Hi Mets501, I wanted to alert you that when you edited Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2006 June 14 earlier today, you accidently orpaned 95 nominations, see this diff: [3] I think I successfully restored all of the orphaned nominations. In the future please be careful because this can take quite a while to fix, especially if it goes unnoticed for a while and new nominations are added. Thanks. Accurizer 00:34, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Heads-Up Regarding Your 'Lost' Vote

The closing admin closed it in favor of keeping it, despite six delete votes, one merge/delete vote, one keep vote, and one transwiki vote. The matter is up for deletion review here and the article has been nominated for a second time here. As you were involved in the original process, I wanted to alert you so you could take action as you saw appropriate. I will not be adding your response to my watchlist, so please respond either to my talk page or to one of the two venues this is being discussed. — Mike • 04:03, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Mets501!

Dear Mets501, thanks so much for your support during my recent successful request for adminship. I really appreciate it. Let me know if you need any assistance; feel free to leave a message on my talk page or e-mail me if it is urgent. And let me know if you ever get interested into going into medicine (but I see you as a brilliant engineer in a couple of years)! Take care -- Samir धर्म 07:52, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Jovan Cvijic

I don't see how you can consider Jovan Cvijic Montenegrin?

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Burlington Center Mall

A last minute compromise might be developing. Come check it out and pitch in your two cents on the idea, if you wish. youngamerican (talk) 13:17, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Revert

You reverted my page. Well it was my page so why did you revert it?

Your Revert

Please read [4], point 2. 141.84.69.20 11:14, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Edit Summary Response

Dandy. Exactly which edit summary did I fail to fill in? BTW, you didn't sign your post. Black Carrot 23:46, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't believe edit summaries (beyond section titles) are necessary for messages left on the reference desk. It's not common practice and nobody really complains about it because it doesn't make any difference, though only on the reference desk.  freshofftheufoΓΛĿЌ  01:51, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

No particular method of approach, just happened to ping on by.  freshofftheufoΓΛĿЌ  02:05, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Dear god in heaven, what do you do with your life? Did you choose me for a particular reason, or are you saying this to everyone? More importantly, did you happen to notice that most of the edits on the Reference Desks don't have more specific edit summaries? Why would they? On articles I can understand it, and I try to do it, but why on the Reference Desk? Black Carrot 17:23, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
My apologies. I appreciate the heads-up, and if I agreed with you, I would be very careful about it from here on out. However, please take a moment to look at my talk page in general, then measure the length of your post and sharpness of your wording. In all, though, I hope we can put this behind us, because the number of responses is getting ridiculous. Black Carrot 02:04, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

VandalProof

I use my custom warning templates Custom Vandal Warning Template 1 and Custom Vandal Warning Template 2 Anonymous__Anonymous 13:10, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

No I don't think that vandal proof recognizes these warnings. I'm still working on that. Anonymous__Anonymous 15:58, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Pimp My Whatever (reverted on Pimp My Ride page)

I just wanted to help. Pimp My Whatever really exist. http://www.mtv.de/pimpmywhatever/index.php

Thanks

Thanks for the quick revert on my userpage. It is greatly appreciated. --TeaDrinker 18:32, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Solaris Operating Environment

Hello,

You recently reverted a change I made to the Solaris Operating Environment page. As I never edited anything on Wikipedia before, I might have missed the correct procedure.

I removed the link Comparison of Operating Systems just because it was listed twice in the See Also section.

best regards Frank.

User:Mets501/Warnings

For some reason (I've no idea what) I left a blocked message on that page indended for an AOL ip. I see I'm not the first person to add a warning to that page, so I assume it's linked from somewhere? Could you take a look at it to save too much confusion? Cheers, Petros471 13:48, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Hmm on taking a look it seems like if you go to an IPs talk (e.g. User talk:207.200.116.202) and click on the last section's edit link, it take you to that page. Something is broken... Petros471 13:51, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Pantsil

Hi there,

Many thanks for your message. I was attempting to remove some nonsense: " ... stupid prik" were the exact words I believe. I am very new to this and tried to report it (failed!) and then tried to fix it (failed again!) Many thanks for correcting it.


Your bug report

Thanks for your bug report. Please see my comments at m:Blahtex/Bugs/Bugs_in_browser_MathML_support/Gecko. Dmharvey 11:09, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks!

Thanks for voting!
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I'll be waiting for yours ;) --Pilot|guy 22:21, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

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On cleanup using AWB

Thank you for doing that work, but to be honest, I don't know if it is really necessary to use AWB to just replace HTML to unicode. As far as I can tell it does not make much of a difference, and all I see is my watchlist (on which I have more than 900 articles) gets filled, and it takes more time to check it as well as make sure there is no vandalism/other edits on the same day for those articles. Wonder what you think. You can reply here. Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 23:41, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

I was doing it because it is much easier to edit a page when the characters are displayed in unicode, slightly easier for regular Wikipedians, and tons easier for new Wikipedians not used to HTML entities, because frankly, if you'd never seen HTML entities before, you may wonder why you're seeing   in a page's source code. You are right, though that it makes it harder to check the watchlist to check for vandalism. I'll stop now, though. (You might also want to see User:Curpsbot-unicodify). Thanks for alerting me of that issue. —Mets501 (talk) 00:12, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Heh, if Wikipedians get intimidated by HTML code then we are in big trouble. :) User:Curpsbot-unicodify has not been around for a while, not in math articles at least. Actually a bot is better for such a job as you can schedule the bot to do a thorough job, but very rarely, say once a year, rather than whenever users feel like adding to their edit count (just kidding :) I think eventually some discussion needs to take place on when/what kind of edits are appropriate with AWB, for example, I won't mind a user doing spell-checking/disambiguation and along the way cleaning up more superficial things. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 00:43, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I know what you mean. As far as edit count, if I want to go for adminship, I have enough edits (for most people) already, I'm just waiting for that six month "milestone" that everyone talks about as being a standard for adminship :-) —Mets501 (talk) 01:29, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Yep, never hurts to wait a bit more and get to know people and Wikipedia before applying for adminship. :) I'll be glad to vote for you when the time comes. :) Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 06:28, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks! —Mets501 (talk) 12:26, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

IFF substitutions

Hi. I reverted your IFF change in Aegis combat system, since in that article IFF means Identification Friend or Foe. Perhaps AWB is not case sensitive. (?) Anyway, you may want to double-check any changes of IFF in aviation or defense articles, if you aren't already.  :-) -- 18.252.7.206 16:33, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

my link

it was legit not vandalism I agree it was poorly placed but I was to shocked to think of a better place. 132.241.246.111 21:20, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

how could I have posted it in a way that was NPOV? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.241.246.111 (talkcontribs)

What? Snopes is far from an anti-Muslim site. 132.241.246.111 21:30, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

I just can't think of a place that link should go. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.241.246.111 (talkcontribs)

FTR the page isn't anti-Muslims heck it's creators are trying to seperate the fact from the BS both of which are being used by anti-muslims. 132.241.246.111 21:34, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

mb template

Hi. The Template:mb was already in use on a number of pages, and your redirection mucked them up a bit.  :) I've reverted the definition to its original, and explained further on its talk page. Just to let you know. --ScottAlanHill 21:41, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for making the change; I didn't think it would be so easy. --ScottAlanHill 23:00, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Iff

Hi. It is me again. It appears you are replacing all iffs with "if and only if". May I ask why? Is there an agreement on that? I believe both versions are acceptable, and I don't see a good reason to do a mass conversion. Wonder what you think. Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 20:10, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I was. According to many style guides, "iff" in formal writing is unacceptable (see for example [5]). —Mets501 (talk) 20:15, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
I suggest you raise the issue at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics. And a piece of advice, which I also learned the hard way, big changes need to always be discussed in advance. They can save effort and sometimes avoids the need to do reverts. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 20:17, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
OK, in the future I'll make sure to discuss this and all further big changes in the appropriate WikiProject/Village Pump/etc. Thanks for writing to me :-). —Mets501 (talk) 20:21, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Could you fix your AWB edit summary? It currently says "if -> if and only if" instead of "iff -> if and only if", which looks slightly confusing. Thanks and happy editing, Kusma (討論) 03:10, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

About the picture on Ryan Seacrest

How can you call it vandislm? The picture looks real and it has every right to be there. I am sorry, but it does. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.226.38.219 (talkcontribs)

notice

i used the correct scientific terms —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.179.98.65 (talkcontribs)

Yup

Hey yeah it is me... Thanks for the tip! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fatih Kurt (talkcontribs)

Polytonic

I noticed that too. It should be fixed now. — BRIAN0918 • 2006-06-22 15:43

Square root

Er, you just removed an awful lot of content from the middle of this article (diff) - was that intentional? --PeruvianLlama(spit) 01:13, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Ah, very good - glad to see it's cleared up then. Cheers! --PeruvianLlama(spit) 01:23, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

A short Esperanzial update

As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.

As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Wikipedia:Esperanza/June 2006 elections.

Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, —Celestianpower háblame 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

WP:AID

I'm not sure if you've voted at WP:AID before, but I just noticed that when you did, you forgot to update the deadline for one of the projects. You may want to read WP:AID#How to vote to educate yourself on how the deadlines, etc. work for WP:AID. —Mets501 (talk) 16:47, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

No, you're right! I haven't voted on WP:AID before and I thought that I had read all of the rules. Many thanks for pointing this out to me, much appreciated.  (aeropagitica)  (talk)  18:56, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

History of Mathematics References

Hi, don't take it personally, but I recently undid your consolidation of the Notes, References, and Bibliography sections into a single section. They serve different functions and are intended to be kept separate. See Wikipedia:Guide to layout#Notes. --SteveMcCluskey 20:43, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

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Signature

Many thanks =) That should work, give me a short while and I'll confirm it :)

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Wa-hay =) Cheers again for the help

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AWB

What's up? --Vaquero100 16:06, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Posted on your talk page. —Mets501 (talk) 16:07, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm learning --Vaquero100 16:12, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Oppose per Where?

Do you realize that you voted oppose for Benon's nomination but said you concurred with Where, the nominator? joturner 02:56, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

I did not say I concurred with Where, that was Lethe who did that. I'll let him know. —Mets501 (talk) 03:18, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, sorry. That's what I meant. joturner 03:24, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your prompt reply and your general welcome. I'm a little apprehensive about making a contribution to the world wide web, but I'm sure that will pass. In the meantime I need to thank someone for the wonder that is Wikipedia, and since you're a significant contributor, please allow me to channel my gratitude to you. Peter.

revisions

So what I put is out —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.119.134.181 (talk • contribs) 02:02, June 29, 2006


afd

I added some to Banu (arabic), do you still regard it as a dic-def? --Striver 18:22, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your support in my RfA!

Thanks for voting!
Hello Mets501/Complete Archives, and thanks for your support in my recent RfA. I'm pleased to announce that it passed with a final tally of (96/0/0). I was overwhelmed by all of the nice comments and votes of confidence from everyone. Thanks again, and see you around! OhNoitsJamie Talk 06:46, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Blocked anon

Hi Mets501. Sorry it took so long for someone to block that user. I'm trying to be really conservative with my new admin tools until I'm a little more confident with them. I was trying to figure out if it was some sort of a content dispute (was there some question regarding the NJ vacancy) since it wasn't simple vandalism. Do you have any idea what his motivation was? I was getting ready to give him a 3RR warning when theProject stepped up to the plate. Cheers, OhNoitsJamie Talk 18:01, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Theoldanarchist

I appreciate your revision of the vandalism anonymous user207.138.40.15 committed on my talkpage. I am really uncertain as to what I did or may have done to offend this person, but obviously I did. Doing some research, I found that he added a request for a composer named Justin Bean, a name which sounds familiar to me. I believe, if memory serves, that he was a member of a band an article about whom I tagged for speedy deletion. Apparently, that pissed him off. Thanks, also, for putting the warning on his talkpage. Perhaps that will dissuade him from such action in the future. ---Charles 19:26, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

request for check user

How do I go about making a request for check user? I would like to make said request for the user who vandalized my user page, and find out if he is one and the same as Xdeadclancyx. Thanks for any assistance you can offer. ---Charles 04:34, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

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Thank you for your vote in my RFA, which succeeded with a final tally of 66-0-4. If there's anything I can help you with now that I'm an admin, please let me know on my talk page. Again, thanks! Mangojuicetalk 20:44, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Xdeadclancyx

The user referred to above just vandalized and then reverted his vandalism of my user page. As you may recall, you reverted vandalism to my talk page some time back, and I expressed the opinion that the anonymous user who committed said vandalism was actually Xdeadclancyx. The current vandalism only reinforces that view. If you would not mind, can you give him a stern warning about such nonsense? I would appreciate it. ---Charles 17:50, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

After I left the message above, I saw that you were on wikibreak, so I took the matter to another administrator, and he left Xdeadclancyx a warning. The reason I feel strongly on this issue is that a month has passed since the article he wrote was deleted---the only reason he has for being unhappy with me---and yet he continues to target my page for vandalism. And, frankly, I believe the only reason he reverted the edit is because the tag was invalid and did not work. At any rate, I am not going to pursue the matter further unless there is further vandalism. But, trust me when I say I am keeping my eye on him. Thanks for taking the time to respond. ---Charles 03:06, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
No apologies necessary, I assure you. ---Charles 03:25, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Framing in User Page

Hey, I just saw your user page, and it looks great with the frame around it. My first thought was to steal the template to use it on my own...but I thought better. (lol) I was wondering, did you design it custom, or did you find it as a template somewhere? If you did pick it up from a wiki community, would you please direct me to it. If not, I would appreciate a summary of what is involved in formatting something like that. Thanks, --KPWM_Spotter 00:26, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi KPWM Spotter! Sorry I couldn't get back sooner, I was on a Wikibreak. Feel free to "steal" whatever design you want from my user page; the header, box, layout, whatever you want. It's a wiki! Feel free! I even "stole" some of that from other editors, and put some of it together myself. If you're curious about creating tables for your user page, check out Help:Table. The borders were made with table borders and <div> tags. See you around! —Mets501 (talk) 23:31, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, thanks alot! That help page was just what I was looking for! --KPWM_Spotter 00:33, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

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RfA nom.

Not a problem (I assume it's a violin gig). If you have any questions or concerns just E-mail me or poke me on IRC. --Pilotguy (roger that) 03:45, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: My post on the pump about edit counts.

Thanks for your offer mets. I would appreciate if you could get my edit count for me. I reckon i should be close to 1200 by now, if not over... I can't get on with monobook.js, since I do not know how the heck to get it to work. Cheers, Thor Malmjursson 22:18, 19 July 2006 (UTC) Thor's pet yack (talk)

Would you be kind enough to get my edit stats as well? Thank you so much! — Catherine\talk 21:01, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you!— Catherine\talk 22:38, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Admin standards

In response to your admin standards, surely we should not be obligated to use an edit summary on our own page 85% of the time? Please clear this up on my talk page, Dan 17:41, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Just fixed my spelling, and you're welcome.:) Dan 17:49, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello

Hello friend. I wish you a fine wiki-break, and I am sure that you shall come with a lot of new ideas. I also want your help in getting my-updated edit counts, as and when you find time. Thanks. --Bhadani 16:52, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

For your kind assistance to me, and many others, to let them know about their total edits, I present you the Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar. Thanks again friend. --Bhadani 14:59, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
For your kind assistance to me, and many others, to let them know about their total edits, I present you the Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar. Thanks again friend. --Bhadani 14:59, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I thank you for your prompt response. I shall continue to sek your help. --Bhadani 14:59, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Nice to find you oneline. We shall remain in touch. --Bhadani 15:03, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: Thanks

You're quite welcome! RadioKirk (u|t|c) 16:36, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

RfDs

Howdy. Re: your four "keep" entries at redirects for deletion: [6] [7] [8] [9]. Those redirects are all coming from (talk) pages that are also up for deletion discussion, per the cleanup work detailed/discussed at Wikipedia talk:Community Portal#Orphaned subpage. Thanks :) -Quiddity 20:51, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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Thank you so much for voting in my recent RFA. It passed on the relatively narrow vote of 38/8/8. It was also one of the least-participated-in RFA nominations in several months, so pat yourself on the back, and join the party on your left, but first, take your cookie!

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CheNuevara RfA

I noticed your comments on this RfA. Normally I would agree with you and certainly oppose. However, on looking more closely at the candidate and the quality of his knowledge and performance, I find factors that more than compensate for any quantitative reservation. You may disagree, but I think it would be worth checking out his answers to new optional questions, if you haven't seen them. Tyrenius 16:16, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Rare template! CheNuevara has made a comment on the RfA and so have I. Tyrenius 18:31, 26 July 2006 (UTC)


RegExTypoFix - Thanks

Thanks for the suggestion! "Noteable" has been added into 0.1 which was just released a few minutes ago. You will also be mentioned in the newsletter =D. Keep em comming! --mboverload@ 22:37, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

my RfA

Thanks for your opinions in my RfA. Ultimately, the request did not pass, with a vote of (43/16/7). But your honest opinion was appreciated and I'll just keep right on doing what I do. Maybe I'll see ya around -- I'll be here!
Cheers! - CheNuevara 17:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

"Digital Violin" link in Violin

Per your request, removed this link; not appropriate. (No offense to "BAH".) Also split section into proper categories ("Further reading" and "External links"). +ILike2BeAnonymous 18:01, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

my RfA

Thanks for your opinions on my RfA. With a final vote of (62/0/1), my RfA passed, and I am now an Administrator. I will work hard to ensure that the tools entrusted to me will not be abused, and will wield my mop proudly.
Happy editing! --Firsfron of Ronchester 22:30, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Redirects for deletion#Alto flute → Western concert flute

Could you explain what you mean: Keep per nom? The nomination was to delete the redirect.Mets501 (talk) 12:27, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Apologies, meant to be delete. I think I must have expressed my opinion on too many XFDs that day or something. Vote changed and noted as changed. ViridaeTalk 12:30, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Highway's RfA

Flower power!
Request for Adminship
Thank you for contributing to my my request for adminship. Although I wasn't promoted to admin status, with a withdrawn vote count of 14/27/14, I am very happy with the response I received from my fellow Wikipedians. I was pleasantly suprised at the support, and was touched by it. I will also work harder on preventing disputes and keeping cool under stress. Hopefully I will re-apply soon and try again for the mop. Thanks again, Highway Return to Oz... 13:33, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Christmas comes early for RegExTypoFix users

Yeah, all you "regular users" not signed up on the mailing list are getting coal. All 200,000 of you.

35 lines added in all

Well it's 2 AM on West Coast USA. California, homies. We all surf (even the 8 billion illegal immigrants). Los Angeles is just like they show it in GTA: San Andreas (but with more hookers). Oh yeah, and we only have one season. We call it "perfect".

Anyway, it is RETF Christmas Secular Celebration Day, and I'm not failing to deliver. I'm saying good bye to converting that whole list over. It's full of misspellings that aren't misspellings and words that aren't ever misspelled. From now on this is my method for finding new words:

  1. Spellcheck a random word from the existing list
  2. Open any article where it corrects more than 1 word
  3. Load it into Microsoft Word and spellcheck
  4. See how many times it shows up in Wikipedia using AWB
  5. If it shows up more than 6 times I'll put it into dictionary.com to make sure it's not a real word
  6. Integrate all versions of a word into regular expressions using dictionary.com as a reference
  7. <datagridFAR find="\b(E|e)nvrionmen(t|ts|tal|tally|talist|talists)\b" replacewith="$1nvironmen$2" />

You can do this too and get thanked in the section below! It really works well!

Shoutouts!

This is a new section dedicated to thanking people who found problems or suggested new word(s). PLEASE do this, even with one false positive. And please suggest new words, that's how it's going to expand.
Removed

  • "eminent" corrected to "imminent" Thanks to Guinnog for finding this.
  • "Calender" corrected to "calendar". calender is a word. Thanks to Alphachimp. Major props.

Added

  • "noteable" now corrects to "notable". Thanks to Mets, keep it up!

Fixed

  • "gracefuly" is the wrong spelling. it's "gracefully" - Thanks to r b-j, who reported this even though he doesn't use RETF!

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Thanks for your support on my RFA. The final vote count was (61/9/3), so I am now an administrator. Feel free to let me know how I'm doing at any point in time or if you need anything. Once again, thank you. Wickethewok 16:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

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Well this is important, so suck it up.

RegExTypoFix is now completely built into AutoWikiBrowser

Yes, that's right. My little project has now been integrated into Wikipedia's most famous utility. This expands my reach to around ~250 active users!

  • But mboverload, what does this mean? - It means that Wikipedia is going to suck less! Yay!
  • What do I do? - Download the latest version of AWB and go to More Options > Enable RegExTypoFix. Then go to then in the Start tab > Summary dropdown box select RegExTypoFix
  • What happened to including your name in it? How am I going to praise you with every edit? You mean "mboverload's RegExTypoFix"? Oh, just stick it in there, and complain on the AWB talkpage if you want my name in there standard =P.
  • How did this come about? Why wasn't I told? - Because it was secret. I have known about this for about a week I think. Putting my typofixing into AWB was suggested in the talk page, however people talking about including spellchecking in AWB has gone back awhile. Martin, the creator and only developer of AWB, informed me and I was absolutely flattered. I now have developer access to AWB so I can update AWB with the latest RETF without having to bother him.
  • What about updates and the newsletter?
    • All updates are just going to be small files with the latest new words and fixes. When AWB updates just throw out the file until I release the next supplemental update.
    • I will be releasing the full RegExTypoFix, however it's going to be in the format that AWB uses it and not in its settings xml format. It's way easier to read, though.
    • You'll still be getting the newsletter, full of keen insights into the wiki hivemind and commentary on mind-body meta relationships.
  • mboverload, how long HAVE you worked on RETF anyway? I estimate 50 hours. Using my most accurate method of finding and verifying typos nets me 20 new lines an hour. This does NOT include the hours I've spent testing it.
  • Where can I find a list of typos to fix? User:Mboverload/RegExTypoFix/full
  • Whore-much? Silence you republican neo-con communist hippie! --mboverload@ 09:20, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

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My RfA and your vote

Hello Mets,
Thanks for participating in my RFA! Ultimately, no consensus was reached, but I still appreciate the fact that you showed up to add in your two cents. I noticed your primary criticism was my lack of article edits....well, you'll be happy to know I don't plan on reapplying (or accepting a nom) until I have 1500 article edits. You can feel free to talk to me about it or add some advice on my improvement page.


Sincerely, The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me)

Your answer to Q1 of the RfA

Did you mean to say that you'd like the ability to close RfA's? This suggests (incorrectly, I presume) that you do not know that closing Requests for Adminship is mainly a task for bureaucrats, -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 11:32, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Barnstars

Hey Highway, I was just stopping by to let you know that users using Popups cannot hover over your barnstars and see the "alt" text, instead they just see the image link page. (I know this is true with Firefox, not sure about IE) —Mets501 (talk) 12:05, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not sure what to do about the problem. I'm using IE, so I'm not aware of the other problems. I'll probably add the the captions and barnstars to a user page. Thanks for pointing this out, Highway Return to Oz... 12:18, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
No need to apologize to me! I was just pointing it out (and it also looks like you just now got another barnstar below!). Writing the captions is a good way. You could try playing around with {{click}} if you want., although I'm not sure if you can get anywhere with that (perhaps that template with a self-link so that Wikipedia won't render it as a link?) —Mets501 (talk) 12:26, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
I have a full size trophy case here. Thank you for pointing it out, and good luck in your RfA. :) Highway Return to Oz... 13:31, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Request

You have a substantial amount of support, why I dont know, but it is clear your RFA will pass. This, admittedly, dissapoints me, as I strongly believe you are unfit for administative powers and responsibilities. However, I respectfully ask you to restore my oppose vote. It was not made in bad faith, which is ludicrous, and it will be restored, whether you like it or not, when the block is over. Regarding this nonsense about sockpuppets, I have never used sockpuppets. Repeating this lie is tantamount to personal attacks. I switched accounts due to harassment. "new user" 20:46, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey Mets,
I've blocked "new user" for now, as the original account was supposed to be temporarily blocked; block evasion is itself a blockable. I saw your note on the user's talk page; please remember to keep a level head, and don't respond in kind to his taunts. Clearly, he's trying to goad you. Don't let him.
Happy editing and good luck with the RfA! :) --Firsfron of Ronchester 21:13, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Well, as you can see on the RfA, the recent activity has attracted some attention, garnering you some fresh Support votes. In fact, Freesyle/Ki's oppose reason was so silly that I really wonder if he didn't actually want to persuade people to vote support, by presenting a really poor "Straw Man" argument. And it's not as if he tried to hide who he was, even. It's just odd. Anyway, happy editing! :) --Firsfron of Ronchester 21:33, 6 August 2006 (UTC)


August 6th, 2006 WP:RETF update

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Hey guys. Before I do anything, I have to thank all these people who have helped me make RETF more bug-free via my challenge to them on the Language noticeboard. Some were redundant lines, and some were words that probably never appear in Wikipedia, but as I said, I don't want any false positives in RETF.

THANKS GUYS! Now for the fixes and suggestions put on the RETF page:

  • 'behaviour' is a legitimate UK English spelling --Guinnog
  • 'councellor' to 'councillor' when 'counsellor' could be the intended word. --mattbr30
  • "Costal" is a real word, meaning "related to the rib" —Mets501 (talk)
  • 'judgemental' to 'judgmental'. According to my dictionary, both are equally acceptable. mattbr30
  • 'Adaptions' to 'Adaptations'. JoeSmack Talk
  • repond and variants -> respond --Guinnog

RETF development

I don't know what to say really. Something has come up and I might not be able to continue to update RETF after the next week or so.......I have put in countless sleepless nights of just me, my computer, and a case of Rockstar energy drink working on this. It has made me feel that I really am a devoted Wikipedian.

I have developed RegExTypoFix from a little hobby of mine into a full SourceForge project. I told a friend that I’ve worked 50 development hours in all. I have a really bad sense of time, but I’m sure it was more. I won’t lie, I am very proud of my work. Hopefully this will be used long after I leave.

To ensure that, I need a person/people to become admins on the RETF project. I don’t ask that you do anything but fix any errors that people report. There is a bit of a process to doing this, but I can teach you. Please send me a message on my talk page. Please my close friends only please, I hope you understand that I want to 100% trust this person. However, I might just hand it off to User:Bluemoose, as if he didn’t have enough on his plate =D.

Download + more

AWB now loads RETF everytime it loads, this box is no longer needed.

To keep an eye on RETF, you can use {{User:Mboverload/RegExTypoFix/updatebox}} and it will produce the box you see here =D. When AWB updates, I can turn it green on command =P

Extract Typos.xml from the zip file either using the zip extraction tool provided with XP or use 7zip.

Under the new system that Martin (User:Bluemoose) developed Typos.xml is separate from the settings file. This way it can be easily swapped out and doesn't interfere with your own personal find and replace settings. Put it in the AWB directory. It is loaded automatically when you start AWB.

In addition, each Typos.xml file comes coded with a version number. Perhaps in some future release AWB will be able to check to see if there's an update for you!

The latest version is not built into AWB, you will have to download it here Just updated a few minutes ago. --mboverload@ 01:54, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Editcountitis

I think opposing an RFA candidate for having 338 edits in one category when your standards say 350 edits in that category, frankly, is silly. Quarl (talk) 2006-08-07 18:29Z

Yes, you're right. I've changed to neutral. —Mets501 (talk) 18:44, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

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Removing votes from your own RFA

This type of thing tends to be looked down upon. Dont do it again. Tchadienne 15:20, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Mets. I took a look at the situation. Although Tchadienne has been very uncivil about it, and I shall say so to him, I don't think he (she?) has done anything actually wrong in voting against your RfA. I suggest you let the vote stand; removing it might make you look bad. I will make a note to the closing bureaucrat against Tchad's vote, but, having been unblocked now, there is no reason that the vote will be invalid. Whether the vote was cast in good faith is another matter, and one I am sure the closing bureaucrat will take into account. Don't worry about it; I think you're cruising the RfA anyway, nicht wahr? Let me know if I can do anything else to help you. Best wishes, --Guinnog 15:48, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry I missed the sig! On reflection, Tchad's user talk is protected, so I have asked an admin to pass on the message about incivility in RfA. And, I think there is no need to specially flag up the oppose vote as a bad-faith one; it will be obvious enough to whoever closes the AfD. Keep on keeping on, --Guinnog 16:00, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
You are very welcome. Let me know if I can do anything else. --Guinnog 16:09, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

There was really no need, but I really appreciate your thoughtfulness in awarding me it. Thank you very much! --Guinnog 16:21, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Funky Sig?

I see that you've modified your sig, so that it includes (talk), for example, with red parens and a link. How does one do this so they can invoke it without copy-paste? --Kaz 21:07, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Peekyou.com

Not really sure where I should put this response, but you asked for it to be on this page so I will. Peekyou.com is a social search engine, so it was appropriate to add it to a page that has a list of social search engines. I don't really see the problem here. I understand that you are doing your best to keep spam off of Wikipedia, and that is entirely commendable, but isn't it also supposed to be a place to find relevant information?

If I had changed the text of some definition page to include PeekYou.com that would be one thing, and I could see the argument that it might be considered spam. But to add it to a list whose sole purpose is to catalog sites like it? I won't revert, as you're probably an admin and would just ban me, but please, think this over a bit more, both for this instance and for the future.

My sig

Sorry about that, I'll fix it ASAP. By the way, I'm a member of Esperanza, and you'll notice I have a green E on my sig. However, when see it, the E is purple. Do you know how to fix it?--Edtalk c E02:23, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Damn it! I could have just done that! I can't believe there was an easier way to do this!----Edtalk c E 15:38, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
For going the extra mile to show me the way to placing signatures. --Edtalk c E 15:38, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Flight Simulator X

In response to your question, no, I didn't use sockpuppet on the demo bit. I was under the impression that the fileplanet beta is the same thing as the public demo, hence I removed the paragraph and created a separate Demo section, until 82.252.213.230 clarified the difference. I assume 84.51.152.199 made the same mistake when editing and he obviously didn't see the previous edit log, but I had nothing to do with this edit. - Canwolf 21:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

mboverload's image

Yes, I did take it. It's called Focus. Frame. Shoot. and you can comment about it here. You can see my other (mostly crappy) work on my deviantART profile page. Glad you liked it =D --mboverload@ 22:34, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Graffitti vigilance

Great to see the vigilance of you and your tools in reverting the graffitti in the Puritan article a few minutes ago. Cool. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 16:34, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Me

Its me User:Philc_0780, not logged in by mistake, i added the tags onto all of the templates, so I no longer need the help the passage was about, so I removed due to irrelavence. Sorry to have worried you! 172.206.180.165 18:46, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Majora's Mask edit

Recently I made an edit to the Majora's Mask page, and added "Strangely, inside the moon is a beautiful, pristine plain broken by a single tree." at the end of the plot section. And it was removed by you because it was considered vandalism. How in the hell is this vandalism? It may be a spoiler at most, but is in not vandalism. 24.20.174.127

Mike Barson AfD

I'm a little confused by the process you followed. If you disagreed with the PROD, all you had to do was delete it (preferably with a comment on the talk page). Normally, when you list an article for AfD it means you want it deleted - but in this case your entry says "weak keep". I guess we'll get a community consensus out of this ... but I would hav e just started with deleting the PROD. I personally don't know enough to be able to determine if Mike Barson is notable or not - just that the article as written doesn't support verifiable notability... ThanksBrian 19:45, 12 August 2006 (UTC)btball

ok, cool, I understand. I actualy do think Mike Barson is notable - but the article doesn't support it. Based on your AfD, I did some more research and now agree that an article about Mike Barson is appropriate - but not this one as currently written. I tagged the article in a few places asking for sources - with appropriate sources to support his verifiable notability, this could be a fine article. It's getting a little late for me here (UTC +1) as I'm travelling tomorrow morning early and still need to pack, or I might just go fix it all myself. I think a great outcome would be for someone (or a few people) to fix the article and then we could close the AfD as a speedy keep (based on an improved article). Thanks, Brian 19:58, 12 August 2006 (UTC)btball

Congratulations

You're now an admin. I recommend being conservative with the new tools, especially at first as you get used to them. Re-read the policy before acting, but dig in and help with the backlogs as soon as you can. Have fun, and again, congrats. - Taxman Talk 01:59, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Congrats! (and thanks for the nice talk message) We're always in need of admins from NYC =). alphaChimp laudare 04:10, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
Cabal Congrats Muahahaha! THE POWER IS YOURS! Yanksox 04:13, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Well Deserved!

No problem. As long as you follow the rules then I will be happy to be one to support you. Shane (talk/contrib) 03:58, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Congrats!

Enjoy your new mop! Baseball,Baby! ballsstrikes 04:13, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Your RfA

Congratulations on your promotion, and you're quite welcome! --Merovingian - Talk 04:28, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Mighty Rubber Duck

As a note of congratulations on your successful RfA, I am pleased to present you with the Mighty Rubber Duck. You're the first-ever recipient. :) -→Buchanan-Hermit/?! 04:43, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Your RfA

Congratulations! Brian 04:45, 13 August 2006 (UTC)btball

Yes Congrats and have a cup of Hot Chocolate as a reward! Æon Insane Ward 04:57, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Congrats Man! Drink up! Æon Insane Ward 04:57, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
Congrats Man! Drink up! Æon Insane Ward 04:57, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Congatulations! Jayjg (talk) 05:19, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Hoorah! Congratulations :) (are you going to drink that hot chocolate? I wouldn't mind a cup :D) --james(talk) 07:00, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Jolly well done, old chap! If you need any help with admin duties, please feel free to ask! Regards,  (aeropagitica)   (talk)  07:07, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

No problem and congratulations. Be sure to ask Essjay for an invite to the admin channel if you're still using IRC. --Pilotguy (roger that) 13:47, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Congratulations! :) - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 14:44, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
      • And from me. Congratulations! --physicq210 01:08, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Re:my vote

Yes, I did read the talkpage. Freestylefrappe was an excellent editor before he was desysopped and his vote should have stood. Removing oppose votes from your own RfA is not your job in any case. I see you were promoted anyway, but I hope you wouldn't use this tactic to silence criticism of your actions, or something like that. Good luck with the mopping.  Grue  13:04, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey Mets!
I'm just here to offer my congrats, and mention that of course if Freestylefrappe had voted under his actual username instead of a sockpuppet account, his vote should have counted. Unfortunately, he was on a block at the time and he used a sockpuppet account. I have absolutely no reason to object to the removal (or proposed removal) of such a "vote", and wish you the best of luck on your adminship. Happy mopping! :)--Firsfron of Ronchester 17:43, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations

Congrats on the adminship, well-deserved and I was glad to be one of the masses. By the way, apropos of nothing except a look at your interests (which seriously overlap mine) and contributions, you might want to take a look at this and the links therein sometime, if you haven't previously seen it. Regards, Newyorkbrad 15:53, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Just want to say thanks for stopping that vandal on British airways. Mrld 20:31, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Ceiling cat

Regardless of your personal feelings on the matter, and the history of the origin of the photograph, Ceiling Cat has indeed become a very popular and notable Internet phenomena. Why did you delete the stub? Gigs 21:14, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for trying

I appreciate your attempt to restore Ceiling Cat. Looks like it's not widespread enough to get past the stigma it has here yet. I originally came to Wikipedia to find out more information about the image, I was surprised when there was no article about it. It was only after I started creating the article I found out about the source of the image being Wikipedia itself. Well maybe someday Ceiling Cat will merit an article. For now we'll have to let Encyclopedia Dramatica take up the slack. :) Gigs 21:44, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

A stealth contribution...

Congrats on your adminship! Saw the deleted comma, and am using it as an excuse to invite you to update DYK!! We need more updaters!! The instructions are quite straightforward, but it takes about 45 minutes of time to do it. Would be great if you could try your hand at it when you have some time. Cheers -- Samir धर्म 23:59, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey. Updates are every 6 hours and, while you can just change one or two if you want, usually the entire template is changed. The instructions at WP:DYK are a little sparse and I made many errors when I first started updating, but everyone helps out to fix them. -- Samir धर्म 00:20, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing the template on Venus. One small thing -- it would be great if you could pick another fact about the same article as opposed to removing the article from DYK next time. Hope to see you updating DYK soon. Cheers -- Samir धर्म 05:25, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Update

I see you added "Admin" and "Recall" to your categories, but you need to update "About Me" on the top of your userpage. Newyorkbrad 00:44, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. Hope you're enjoying your first day with the mop. See also my comment above if you missed it. Newyorkbrad 01:18, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Article deletion

Hello! You deleted my article Quer ins Arschloch reinvögeln because it is a german expression. Please restore it, the article is ok and I think, that a german expression can also be in the english Wiki. Thank you, --Itemsubcriber 00:56, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Pnatt

I know! I'm hoping he gets bored with it very soon. Thanks for blocking him so quickly. Last time he did this it took ages to get him blocked. Cheers, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 02:45, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that, that's great. And congrats on your adminship! Sarah Ewart (Talk) 02:59, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

According to Pnatt's userpage history he has Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. That may explain his rampant vandalism patterns on Wikipedia. Aussieguy 03:00, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Here's proof... http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Pnatt&direction=next&oldid=48088073

I sent you an email, Mets. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 03:23, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Apparent Vandalism

the incident was a planned test of vandalism response times. A page was vandalized lightly, changing only one word. The time until a revert was then counted. It was a very, very good result. --84.64.42.43 12:57, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

The test was in fact part of research into a newspaper article detailing the work of Wikipedia. I will be sure to add that while wikipedia's administrators are hard-working, they are also arrogant. --84.64.42.43 13:02, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Tune......

drat it... I had just added Tune..... to WP:AIAV and then discovered you'd already found and blocked him. good fast work! bikeable (talk) 14:26, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

quer in arshloch is back

user:Itemsubcriber reposted the article you deleted yesterday, apparently unchanged.Richardjames444 15:28, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

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Sarah Ewart

As I think Sarah mentioned to you, I had previously offered to nominate her for RfA, but she wasn't quite ready. However, she's going with your nom, which is well done, so I've agreed to co-nom, which I am very pleased to do. Tyrenius 17:06, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

No problem. I understand. Tyrenius 17:11, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Co-nom'd. Let me know if you think it's OK. Tyrenius 17:27, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Thankyou both...I'm completely blown away. Mets, I think I might remove the nom template from my talk page so the page doesn't attract trolling. Thankyou, you're both very kind. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 01:37, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

If I may butt in here, Sarah, you're too modest. This is would have happened long ago but for people respecting your wish to leave it for a bit. Very glad to hear you're going with it now. Cheers, Ian Rose 10:06, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Venus

Hi - I see you have removed the article on Venus from the front page for not being exactly like Earth. The bit states that Venus is the most Earthlike atmosphere in the Solar System, not that Venus has an Earthlike atmosphere. The temperature numbers based on the number of kilometres would give around 40 degrees at 52-3 kilometres anyway, but rounding off to 50 is better because the numbers are not quite exact in the first place. I would have preferred that you took a look at the sources in the article - this one clearly states that "Although the surface of Venus is an extremely hostile environment, at about 50 kilometers above thesurface the atmosphere of Venus is the most earthlike environment (other than Earth itself) in the solar system" in the first sentence of the first paragraph. Please check sources before making an abrupt change like that (and please restore the Venus article on the front page as it only had three hours there). Mithridates 18:12, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, looking at the sentence again it should be changed a bit to "a similar" instead of "the same". That was my fault. Mithridates 18:14, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for that. Sorry for being a bit terse there in the first message as I didn't see that I had phrased it wrong. Mithridates 18:40, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Regionalliga table

Hi, you helped me out with my table getting rid of the white part but doing that caused another problem with it, the data in one of the columns now doesn't show up and I was wandering if perhaps you had any idea what was wrong and how to fix it, here is the page User:Curswine/Sandbox/Regionalliga and thanks a lot for being so helpful. --shanda 18:15, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry for wasting your time, I just managed to fix the problem, thanks for helping me out in the first place though. --shanda 18:20, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict

I don't want to wheel war but I think protected this is bad since it's on the main page and will be. We have alot of eyes looking at this article. Yanksox 02:29, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

School

Public or private? Just curious. I went to stuy. - CrazyRussian talk/email 02:48, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Or you could email to keep private - CrazyRussian talk/email 02:49, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

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Rainbow Gathering - Review Request

Greetings,

I see that you placed a protection of the Rainbow Gathering article and in some sense I do appreciate that however, the user who asked you to protect the page did so after he made changes to the text thereby shutting out valid listings of annual Rainbow Gatherings here in the United States. This is a heated topic not only on Wikipedia but also nationally for the Rainbow Family at large. This is a dynamic freeform movement that has been active since at least 1972. As the gatherings have grown so have the number of gatherings world wide. Within the United States there are now two notable gatherings that are hosted annually. Myself and others would like these gatherings listed as they are of historical interest. Please review comments on the talk page, request for semi-protection of the article and reprieve from the vandalism that has ensued over the course of several months. If at all possible, please invest a little research on the topic of Rainbow Gatherings and their unorganized nature. Rainbow Gathering information can be found at http://rainbowguide.info and other places throughout the internet. Thanks for your time and consideration. P.S. My computer is on the fritz and my time online is weak at best for at least a couple of days. Lookingheart 07:07, 15 August 2006 (UTC)Lookingheart

Image:Yahoo.png listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Yahoo.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Wwagner 16:06, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

stewiegriffin logon

My friend told me to use this logon.

I have done nothing wrong


Semi-protection of 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict

Hi Mets501, I noticed that you semi-protected 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict at 02:34 UTC and then removed it one minute later. This article, which is probably one of the most read right now, was semi-protected for several weeks, which enabled the registered users to largely reach a consensus and create a pretty good article. However, on 11 August the semi-protection was lifted by Cowman109 with the motivations "as it is a current event to allow casual editors to add to the article" and "Unprotected after four days as it's a current event". I can't see the logic of making the most hotly debated issues accessible for anon vandals because they want to play around, while the fairly anonymous news portal is permanently locked for everyone except administrators. Anyway, immediately after that semi-protection was lifted, the vandals moved in and the responsible editors are constantly busy reverting their insertions. It's bad enough trying to sort out the mess caused by a few very POV users who registered only three-four days ago. So, could you possibly reconsider and slap the semi-protection on for 3-4 days again? Thanks Thomas Blomberg 19:41, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

158-152-12-77

I made a new section on ANI about this user. It looks like we both edited AIV at the same time, so my edit summary saying that I personally wouldn't block a longtime editor in good standing was lost. Syrthiss 12:50, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

User talk:Tess Tickle

User talk:Tess Tickle if you view the talk page, you can see this user has a 'how to' listed on making VB6 virii and hacking html Guest books. Since it's on a talk page I didn't want to mess with it but contact an admin right away to deal with it. --Brian (How am I doing?) 14:55, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Yo dude, what particular policy am I in violation of? --Tess Tickle 01:28, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
So, would it be correct to say that you have edited my talk page without any reference to any wikipeadia policy which would permit you to do so? My user talk page is not an encyclopeadia article you know, and, as you probably know, no editing of user talk pages is permitted under Wikipeadia policy. --Tess Tickle 01:39, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
No thanks. I'd rather that you acted in accordance with Wikipeadia policy, as decided upon by the majority of users. I will be quicker to simply act upon the information which you deleted to set up another account. I'm sorry that you, and the other members of the wikipeadia cabal, feel it neccessary to act in complete violation of wikipeadia policies. Listing an admin at the Incident Noticeboard only serves to encourage other members of the cabal to crawl out of the wood-work in support of the said perpetrator, so that the favour may be returned in future. I expect we shall encounter each other soon enough.--Tess Tickle 01:53, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

RE: Typo

Hehe - no problem. Sorry for giving you a superfluous "new messages" bar. :) —Celestianpower háblame 15:02, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Block of User:Shockwsa

Hi, I got an edit conflict when trying to comment on that, and since you seem to have already blocked him I'm leaving it here. His edits aren't really false (read the rest of the article or do a google news search), they're just strongly worded, POV pushy and partly original research. I don't think it's a case of blatant vandalism though, but if you feel differently, just let the block stand. - Bobet 15:11, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

james kitching

please explain why you deleted the 2 images accompanying this article - and in future kindly discuss the matter before such peremptory action Paul venter 16:02, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

New SubCatagory or leave alone?

Just wanted your input really quick on this. I have been editing and caretaking the Notable YouTube users article however the more I think about it, the more I believe it should probably be a catagory instead of a page. All the people listed are notable for their fame derived from youtube, and the page is really only there for people who have articles on Wikipedia already, so right now there really isn't a difference between this and a subcatagory under the parent YouTube catagory. Obviously the users are notable or they wouldn't have a Wikipedia article...so the page is fairly pointless as I view it now. What do you think? I have reviewed all the catagory FAQ and articles but am still confused on how to create a subcatagory to link these user pages together...and how do I remove the 'notable' page once the subcatagory is made? Very confused. Sorry to take up your time --Brian (How am I doing?) 18:16, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I didn't know if you would get my response off my talk page but, I really apprecate it if you would make the subcatagory for me, as I don't feel comfortable doing it myself. I'll AfD the page after it is made, per Isotopes' suggestion. Thanks guys, you are making this really painless :) --Brian (How am I doing?) 18:56, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I swear this is the last thing I will bug you with today.

Mets, I really appreciate the help with the Catagory earlier and I know you are probaby getting sick of talking to me but a few quick things I could use your help with.

Here[10] is a redirect discussion that pretty much was ended by this conversion. Since you are an admin, perhaps there is a way to close it?

I also have a Request for Comment/mediation for the YouTube article but am still waiting for an admin to reply. Talk:YouTube#Request_for_Comment:_Section_with_information_on_how_to_download_videos_from_YouTube I don't know how admins handle it but I wanted to end this before tempers became too heated and an edit war continued. I followed the process but still am waiting for a response. --Brian (How am I doing?) 19:22, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Blocked, for no reason

Why the hell have you blocked me? I haven’t done anything wrong, I’m sorry but I think you’ve got the wrong person! I don’t appreciate being blocked for no real reason, just because I edit under a certain IP address, doesn’t mean I’m always guilty, if Wikipedia is going to continue to let people edit their pages, their going to have to something about the policy!!! 202.6.138.35 07:18, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Who do you think you are?

Who do you think you are?

You just semi-protected the Marked Cards page against vandalism, right? If you took your time to read the recent edits you would have seen that I was just removing blatant self-promotion and spam. Expertmagician who is listing so-called Ultra Luminous marked cards and Juice Dust is not really making a contribution. Those are not real card-marking systems, by any stretch of imagination. They are just brand names for his own products that he sells on his web site (and can only be purchased from him through his web site) http://marked-cards.com (and his web site is also listed, by him, as a link at the bottom of the Marked Cards page).

It is because of "contributors" like him that misinformation gets published on Wikipedia, and it is because of "editors" like yourself that this misinformation is allowed to stay on Wikipedia. You think you are doing the work a favor by playing cop and semi-protecting pages without really looking into what it is all about.

I have made a few attempts to remove this self promotion and spam from the Marked Cards page, but Expertmagician (who used to "contribute" anonymously under IP 69.117.150.243) keeps putting his spam back. I personally don't care if Wikipedia is full of misinformation. What do I care? It is not my site. I can think of better things to do with my time, than trying to edit some stupid pages on some dysfunctional site. How can a site like Wikipedia possibly have correct information when any schmuck with an internet connection can feel free to make a contribution?

Deletion of David Witt

Could you restore and nominate it for Wikipedia:Articles for Deletion. I don't think that was resolved yet. Hello32020 14:18, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

The admin deleting it usually has the last say, and I fully support the deletion, as an ex-admin. Chacor 14:20, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Arkansas congressional districts speedy deletions

I noticed that you speedied this series of articles after I tagged them with {{tl:hangon}}. Here is the text of my comment on the talk page that I was not able to post due to your deletion:

As a part of WikiProject Congress, the project participants are constructing a compreshensive set of articles to cover all congressional districts in the US. The current activity involves standardizing and renaming all congressional district articles in a consistent manner and creating the appropriate redirects from the old articles. In some cases, the original article had not yet been created and so this new article is currently 'empty'. However, as a part of the WikiProject, all these articles will eventually be created.
As to the possibilty of setting up these 'empty articles' as redirects until they are created: due to the recent activity in mass renaming and moving articles within the project, a slew of double redirects have been created without properly being addressed--having them point to an article that is going to be renamed in the near future is just asking for trouble.
WikiProject Congress is methodically populating and improving all the articles within its scope (including this one) and therefore should not be deleted.

First, I really don't appreciate not having the oppportunity to give a reason prior to the deletion. Secondly, could you give me some information as to the salient points of the process that I apparently do not understand, given my reasoning stated above.

Thanks. --G1076 14:26, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

While I support standardization by a WikiProject, articles cannot be created in the main namespace until they are ready to have content. From the Criteria for Speedy Deletion
3. No content whatsoever. Any article consisting only of links elsewhere (including hyperlinks, category tags and "see also" sections), a rephrasing of the title, and/or attempts to correspond with the person or group named by its title. This does not include disambiguation pages.
You may want to create these pages in your user space, or maybe in the WikiProject subpages. If you do create them not in the main article space, make sure when tranferring them do NOT do cut and paste moves, instead use the "move" tag to preserve history. —Mets501 (talk) 14:35, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your detailed response to my second point. I appreciate the advice and I understand the basis for the deletion. However, to expand on my first point, had the warning in {{tl:hangon}} been heeded, we could have had this conversation, I could have remedied the articles, and the whole create article--delete article--recreate article process could have been avoided. Take care. --G1076 21:53, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Just a quick favor

I was just stopping in to see how you are doing and ask if you could take a look at an AfD discussion. I normally would never ask for an AfD to have a semiprotect on it however I think this one may. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/StereoKiller.

The reason is it turns out to be like a myspace knock-off and the users are flooding over here disrupting the discussion. I won't post the things they are saying just to keep your userpage clean. Thanks a million --Brian (How am I doing?) 14:46, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

sorry to bother you again, however reverting the vandalism is getting a bit hard and with more people pouring over from here where someone is asking people to vandalise and disrupt the afd, I really hope now that it can be protected --Brian (How am I doing?) 15:22, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

David Witt on deletion review

An editor has asked for a deletion review of David Witt. Since you closed the deletion discussion for (or speedy-deleted) this article, your reasons on how or why you did so will be greatly appreciated in the above review. Hello32020 14:56, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Bhumibol Adulyadej

Thanks for helping with this article (semi-protection). See edits by user Khompat, IP 129.125.7.116, user Tuleeprabaht. I think they may be the same. Khompat keeps putting his fac comments at the top and slandering legit editors. Please investigate and advise/take action on this. Thanks for helping.Rlevse 16:09, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Tuleeprabaht is at it again. I reported him on a vandal notice page but not sure anyone will do anything. We'll see.Rlevse 11:33, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
I did report to AIV. No action yet.Rlevse 12:26, 23 August 2006 (UTC)...got blocked fro 99 hours, outstanding. Rlevse 12:53, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

deleting Americart

Hi Mets501,

I see you deleted the entry I put in for Americart. But there are several other similar ones out there, such as X-Cart and Zen Cart. Also, there are plenty of other businesses which have entries on Wikipedia. Is there something I should do so that the entry doesn't get deleted?

Thanks, lthomas

Card Marking Page

August 17, 2006 (1:43 PM EST) - Thank you so much for locking the card marking page because the same person keeps on making changes and I am tired of fixing his updates in order to maintain technical accuracy and completeness of the content. Magically yours, Jeff

Paul Arnott and copyright problems

Hi -

I had to revert one of this user's new pages today for copyvio problems - he copied Karen Carpenter's bio straight from the Internet Movie Database. I saw the long string of copyvio warnings and the 24hr block you gave him on 8/14, so I thought I'd let you know he's at it again. I also put a note at ANI so he'd get widespread notice this time, 'cause he certainly seems determined. Let me know if you have questions - Baseball,Baby! ballsstrikes 21:20, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Your Profile Page

I think your front page is just killer! I'm trying to spruce mines up, but as it is now...rather pithy. Is there a template that's available to users so that I might be able to create one like yours?

P.S. You guys are a shoo-in for the playoffs (no jinx meant, tough news about Martinez though...). Hope my A's will meet you in the Series! --Banpei 05:03, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Hehe try as I might, I can't seem to get the side bars to work, only the top one. I think I'm just gonna have to settle with the way it looks now. At least I got the top bar working! =) Thanks a bunch! =) --Banpei 08:08, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Emmalina

Mets, I don't know how to handle this so I thought I would ask your opinion. A person on YouTube whom I think of as a friend has had someone posting her personal information (home address, phone numbers, private pictures) on the Wikipedia page here. Emmalina. While a protect would be nice, the problem is that this is now in the cached history. I was wondering if there was a way to save her article on a sandbox, delete the 'real' one and then recreate it from the saved sandbox copy, erasing the history and protecting her information? --Brian (How am I doing?) 06:37, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Semi-protections

Recently, at my request, you semi-protected some pages due to recent vandalism. Now, those vandals are attacking two other, related pages: Choujuu Sentai Liveman and Kamen Rider BLACK. Could you take a look into possibly semi-protecting them? Thanks. jgp TC 08:58, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. jgp TC 12:57, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
I hate to bug you again, but these vandals seem to have added more pages to their vandalism list: Uchuu Keiji Shaider, Uchuu Keiji Gavan, Kidou Keiji Jiban, Uchuu Keiji Sharivan, Choujin Sentai Jetman, and Tokkei Winspector. Could you please semi-protect them? jgp TC 04:21, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

To unlock the semi-protected page

Hi, Can you please unlock the marked Cards page?

What happened on the Moon

I notice that you were the admin who protected Apollo moon landing hoax; could you perhaps do the same for What happened on the Moon? I suppose we could try just warning or blocking the IP address that is doing it, but I suspect the page will end up with the same sort of problems as the main hoax page. --Brianyoumans 20:17, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the reply. I have posted things on the talk page and asked for discussion, but I'm not getting anything more than insulting comments in the edit messages. I will proceed as you have suggested. --Brianyoumans 20:34, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Could you perhaps revert the article this time around? I'm not getting anywhere with this guy. --Brianyoumans 22:19, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Um... could you please restore the second paragraph again? I think I have come around to the opinion that the synopsis of the movie can stay, but I am trying to retain a firm statement at the top that the whole thing is not regarded as having scientific merit, with a pointer to Apollo moon landing hoax. See the article's talk page for amusements... --Brianyoumans 19:33, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

moon

who the fuck are you to revert w/o expln?

admin you see, they do what they like. --No Username 02:54, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Dear "admin", FYI, contrary to your suggestions, I have no intentions to make any arguments with the likes of individuals who had asked for your assistance in helping them to obliterate the validity of the document by posting their nonsense AND allowing them to keep it there without a good reason, while a legitimate edit was reverted by you without a timely explanation. I kindly request that no similar and/or relevant actions on your part are to be exercised, as such acts undermine credibility of your objectivity as an administrator.

                                                      Respectfully,
                                                      user# B5322

Sock Puppet???

You recently blocked 202.6.138.34. I am fairly certain this is a sock for the infamous Jackp. He's got a few other socks around: Jfp-24 and Movie-lover93 and Jfpearce. He's a real disruptive pain in the you-know-where. I noticed you temporarily blocked this URL. Can only mods block people (ie, are you a mod) or can all editors do this? Hope you can help. Cheers. Merbabu 13:40, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

admin tag

THANKS! I missed that when editing the user page! My mistake! Big OOPS! --Brian (How am I doing?) 15:57, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Help with User:Displaced Brit

Displaced Brit (talk · contribs) has made personal attacks and has continued to stalk me.

I am in fear of retaliation for this call for help, so I am editing this anonymously in hopes he won't find out and jump on me for this. --CFIF (as an anon IP) 19 August 2006

Thanks for the response, this user just continues to stalk and harrass me and I didn't want to post from my main username because this guy is watching my contribs and I knew I would face more personal attacks if I posted from my main username. You'll probably get a WP:RFI filed against you by him, as Firsfron did for blocking him, and for supposedly "working with me". --CFIF 19:03, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Chavez bot

Glad you've decided to pick up the accents on Chavez, but that has permanently messed up all the references, since most of the newspaper articles and other references did not have accents :-) No way to fix it now, but please stop. This work has to be done manually. Sandy 19:15, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

whew, I just checked one, and I think it will be OK. For example, the article "Hugo Chávez Accused of Anti-Semitism" is referenced in Venezuelan-Israeli relations (it had no accent mark before). If I google on the new title, with the accent, Google still returns the article correctly. Seems like it will be OK, even though technically that means the article titles are incorrect in the references now? Sandy 19:28, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

I can't think of others right now, but I'll keep an eye open and let you know. I checked all the articles on my watchlist, and found one other messed up image (can't remember where), but more importantly, I didn't find any actual corrections needed, rather accents introduced to the refs, so I reverted those. It seems we're doing a pretty good job on the accents after all! Sandy 20:00, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

I added a note that all was OK now, and the bot is in good shape for the future. I was surprised, in the articles I checked, to find the accents in such good shape. Thanks for your hard work ! Sandy 20:24, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Great! Why don't you test it on the main Hugo Chavez article? (Sorry, no accent when I'm typing from the laptop)? Sandy 20:36, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Looks good! Sandy 21:11, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Bot trials

Normally bot trials are for a week, although the approver can specifiy explicit times or edit caps. If nothing was stated, it's pretty much open ended. Regarless of anythign else, without a bot flag being set you should never edit faster then 2-3edits/min, to prevent flooding of recent changes. Generaly you should not be editing large (1000's) ammounts of articles while in trials either. — xaosflux Talk 22:40, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Oral Sex

ThanksRsm99833 03:34, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Semi-protect on Freemasonry

Hi Mets501... You recently put a much needed semi-protection lock on Freemasonry. Unfortunately, it does not look like the lock actually worked. A new user was able to edit after you had supposedly protected the page. Could you check that and make sure that the page is indeed semi-protected? Thanks Blueboar 14:14, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

The account that made the edit was actually 16 days old - not considered a "new user" by the software (which sets the threshold at about 4 days) even though it was their first edit. It's definitely semi-protected though. :) --james(talk) 14:17, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Re:Springeragh

I'm sorry, my connection lapsed. —$ΡЯΙNGεrαgђ (-¢|ε|Ŀ|T|-) 15:09, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Linkshere

The new links seem to be working most of the time, but are failing for pages with spaces in their names, we fixed this elsewhere before, just cant remmeber where, any clues? — xaosflux Talk 16:08, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Looks like fullurl is not pulling the value of $1 being sent to it, but using the absolute value, eg ilnking to the $1 article. — xaosflux Talk 16:18, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Semi-Protection of Dog

Today (21 August) you unprotected the Dog article -- and I thoroughly understand your reasons for doing so. However, in the short (6 hours) time since, 4 reversions have been necessary. I note that SlimVirgin re-protected the article on the 12 August after unprotecting it on the 8 August, due explicitly to the number of anon vandalisms. Please reprotect the article ASAP -- I will of course place the appropriate request on the protection page.

Please reply on this page rather than mine. Gordon | Talk, 21 August 2006 @08:05 UTC

Done. —Mets501 (talk) 14:05, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Thank you. Gordon | Talk, 21 August 2006 @14:47 UTC

Incomplete bot move

Mets501,

This move [18] is incomplete. It should be
|{{tl|user Tolkienism}}||{{user Tolkienism}} → |{{[[User:Rfrisbie/Userbox/Tolkienism]]}}||{{User:Rfrisbie/Userbox/Tolkienism}}
If you're using WP:AWB, please add

Find Replace
tl|OldBoxName [[User:NewBoxName]]

Please reply on this talk page. Thanks, Rfrisbietalk 14:00, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm using the python Wikipedia framework: I'll make sure to do a run of changing the template links before deletion: it may be two separate edits, however, but it will be done :-) —Mets501 (talk) 14:04, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks.

Rfrisbietalk 14:24, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Vandal tagging

Hi there: thank you, I did know that, and normally do it correctly. The one you have picked up on was an oversight.--Anthony.bradbury 14:06, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Mehrdad Nikoonahad

On the Mehrdad Nikoonahad article you removed the image, after i had reuploaded and included appropriate and valid source info. Just wondered what was wrong with it!

Thanks :]!

Penguin

Sorry for the accidental revert of your revert, there. We were both trying to fix the same thing at the same time. I've put the article back as it was, and reported the user to AIV. Blocked now, I see. --MichaelMaggs 18:20, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Erroneous indefblock template

Hello Mets501. You placed {{indefblock}} on Sockpuppet of vandal's userpage (and an equivalent on their talk page), but didn't block them. I assume that was a mistake. ;) // [admin] Pathoschild (talk/map) 03:07, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Not quite Vandalism

I've been looking at User:132.205.93.88 - who seems to be going around doing some very confusing changes, removing PROD, adding PROD, adding inppropriate tags to articles being considered for deletion. It's not clear and obvious vandalism, but ends up confusing the edit logs for articles. I reverted a couple, but he just posted on my talk page, since I mistyped a warning tag. --Brat32 03:25, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

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I just joined WikiProject Airports! --TheM62Manchester 12:34, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
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Flagging down admins

Thanks for the headsup. If I looked at AfD's more than a few days past freshness, I'd probably see they're all closed. Didn't think of it. I know some are relisted if there's not much discussion, but I didn't know if some slip through the cracks considering 100-200 per day. I knew about WP:AN but not WP:LOA, so thanks for that too! TransUtopian 15:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Three AFD's may have slipped through

I posted this on the Admin notice board but not sure how long that will take. Anyway, just a heads up that Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Manatee meat, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ModTheSims2, and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bitweaver2 have all been open for seven days now while other AfDs around them have closed. They haven't been relisted for consenus or posted to in a while. Could an admin take a look and make a call (relist, no consenus, delete or keep)? Thanks --Brian (How am I doing?) 16:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for letting me know that. I had no clue I was doing that. By the way, do you have to be in Esperanza to have a userpage fixed?

Thanks

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
For volunteering (out of the blue) to help with sorting out a category change, without me asking, and then doing it, and for being an all round nice guy :) Martinp23 22:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
You're welcome - credit given where credit due (usually) :P Martinp23 22:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Displaced Brit is back

And he's decided to file a nice little RfC against me. CFIF 02:09, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Tywright back to removing information

As previously reported at AN/I, Tywright (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log) is back to removing information on the Charlie Crist and Tom Gallagher pages after being warned multiple times, I think a block may be necessary. Maybe an indefblock for being a vandalism-only account would work. --CFIF 12:38, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Semi-protection: 2006 israel-lebanon conflict

Response needed immediatly Fox News being readded as combatant several times Other IP vandalism Hello32020 15:19, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Please unprotect. This is being discuses in #wikipedia-en. Thank you. 203.217.83.31 16:17, 23 August 2006 (UTC)


Penn Stuff

I curious about your bot and tagging of the Penn articles. What was the motivation or impetus? --evrik 16:02, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! --evrik 03:21, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Fox News

They are there because this war is also a propaganda war and they have had many casualities a number more than the UN. 203.217.83.31 16:16, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Revert/block

Thanks for the backup. :) --Fang Aili talk 16:59, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

AWB question

I posted this question on my talk page in response to your comment and didn't get a response:

Sorry, I wasn't aware of that rule. However, those are the only edits that seem to ever come up with AWB. Do you have any suggestions that could put the program to better use, as I am so new with it? Would a bot account be more acceptable for that sort of thing?

MetsBot malfunctioning!

Hi, I recently noticed that MetsBot (t c) is planing the {{WikiProject Pennsylvania}} template to the talk pages of some New Jersey locations! Please make it stop and revert those changes. Examples include: Talk:Washington, New Jersey and Talk:Warren County, New Jersey. Thanks. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 19:12, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

    • Thanks for addressing it, Mets. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 19:27, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

MetsBot Bot Flag

Hi, I noticed that the bot flag is not set for MetsBot. Is this a new bot? Thanks, GChriss <always listening><c> 20:38, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Redirects

Sorry, I guess I don't understand what I'm supposed to do after a page move, then. Why does it advise to fix double redirects? --Elliskev 21:18, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Are you talking about this diff? --Elliskev 21:24, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

What happened on the Moon

Could you perhaps do the latest revert on this article? And, what do you think should be the next step? I admit that the last time I asked might have been a bit early to take action, but, if you look at the talk page, things have deteriorated a bit. Brianyoumans 00:29, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the assistance. I'm not sure what to do either. I'm tempted to AFD the article, but I'm not sure it really qualifies for that. Brianyoumans 02:00, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
    • I have left a notice about WP:3RR on the talk page of the anonymous moon hoax believer. Could you perhaps revert the page again? Perhaps we can get him blocked for 24 hours and get some rest.  :-) --Brianyoumans 04:37, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

user 'Brianyoumans' logs in under different user id's and commits fraud, just like the paragraph he wants to keep. These are some of his nicknames and his actual IP: 207.67.145.234, Btball, Sarah Ewart, Antandrus. Do you wish to tolerate that? B5322

B5322, I've interacted with a couple of those users on that list, and I assure you they are not all Brianyoumans —Mets501 (talk) 12:24, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

The Fleshy Part of the Thigh

I have moved The Fleshy Part of the Thigh back to The Fleshy Part of the Thigh (The Sopranos episode). Rather than for purposes of disambiguation the individual episode articles are titled with the show name as per guidelines from the wikiproject:television page. I just wanted to leave a quick note to explain why I moved it back.--Opark 77 07:27, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Recent Changes

Hi there! I noticed you doing some vandalism reversions and thought I'd drop you a line to let you know that your work is not going unnoticed. Great job! Cheers! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 14:27, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

br

Just seemed a little long, i can remove it--Mangochutney
14:46, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

  • gone--Mangochutney 14:46, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Signature trouble

Thanks, I realised that and have now sorted it. I tried to edit my signature from the PDA with which I usually contribute, but the <> etc got turned into their HTML entities somehow. Cheers — Gary Kirk | talk! 15:58, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

What happened on WP:RPP

I semi-protected What happened on the Moon rather issue a full protection, because the level and severity of vandalism has dropped off in recent hours. If the situation intensifies, let me know and I will immediately upgrade to full protection. Happy to have been of service, RyanGerbil10(Kick 'em in the dishpan!) 17:19, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

YoutubeTalk.com link on YouTube article

It is NOT my website. Furthermore, it is a noted external gathering place for users of Youtube. Therefore, it goes back onto the relevant article. Toussaint 12:44 PM, 25 August 2006 (EST)

Vandals

Hi Netsnipe! Just letting you know that your vandalism efforts are not going unnoticed: it's so great when you report to WP:AIV because when I see your report, I can trust that the user has been warned and almost always deserves a block. Happy vandal whacking! —Mets501 (talk) 15:43, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I've been tossing up whether to nominate myself for WP:RFA or not recently. I don't know if I'll be garner enough support seeing that I haven't contributed to a featured article yet. I'm always too busy fighting vandals and spammers, filing AFDs and tracking the more nasty long-term abuse cases instead because they worry me a lot. What do you think? Am I ready for the mop and bucket? --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  15:49, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
That's always a tough question, one which really can't be fully answered until you actually go through the process. I know that from me you'd get a support, though :-). I wouldn't worry much about writing a featured article: I never wrote one and my RfA passed with a count of 82/5/0. Bottom line is it's up to you whether you're ready to run. (You can check out the standards page if you'd like) —Mets501 (talk) 16:01, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Well you can finally answer it. = ) --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  21:35, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Allegations of terrorism by the United States

I would like you to review your decision, everyone except Self-Described Seabhcán says the edit should take place and that he should have never made the edit being asked to be reverted in the first place. --zero faults |sockpuppets| 03:52, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Paul Skalić (edit|talk|links|history|logs)

An Stbalbach user from believse Pavao Skalic's nationality is controversal, although many distinctive slavists, linguists, croatists and other scientists think differently! Those "authoritative sources" mentioned by Stbalbach are Britannica and Encarta- but he is missing to point that these facts are actually very outdated hence there is, at least one very serious scientific work ( of mr. Zubrinic) that corroborate that Skalic is, in fact, really Croat. Also there is confirmation of Croatian Ministry of Science and Technology of that fact. On the end, I really don't know which "number of other editors" think same as he is. As I have seen, there was many controversy about this kind of text even before, so I think that you should remove this protection hence it is really unnecessary. It is only a new contribution to the evil blood between various editors, and not to mention that it seems that this looks like a censorship! If info. provided in the text is true/objective it would survive, if not... but that's the spirit of W.

Charun (edit warring)

Quite frankly, the recent edits and protection of these edits are so off-kilter I could cry. I have no idea why you think it's sane to directly compare Etruscan mythology to Hindu religion. I have no clue why none of you can understand how important the labrys was in the ancient world. Ironically, you reference Marija Gimbutas but failed to note her own work specifically relating the labrys to more ancient goddess symbolisms either.

Now the article reads like a 5th-grade essay, completely disorganized and painfully POV. Do you honestly feel this is the best we can do? Do you honestly feel that Scott Andrew Hutchins analysis based on Jeff Rovin is accurate? Logic is logic. I can only but appeal to your reasoning at this point. The current state of this article is absolutely disgusting. --Glengordon01 07:33, 27 August 2006 (UTC)


A further appeal: PLEASE READ labrys CAREFULLY! You're missing something right here, for example:

"On Greek vase paintings, a labrys sometimes appears in scenes of animal sacrifice, particularly as a weapon for the slaying of bulls. On the "Perseus Vase" in Berlin (F1704; ca 570–560 BC), Hephaestus ritually flees his act of slicing open the head of Zeus to free Athena: over his shoulder is the instrument he has used, the double-headed axe. (The more usual double-headed instrument of Hephaestus is the double-headed smith's hammer.)

Please take note of the bold. It is well-known to any competent classicist that the double-hammer and the labrys are the same freakin' symbolism, for pete's sake. So when Scott Andrew Hutchins is arguing about petty semantics, claiming ad nauseum "it's a hammer, it's a hammer", he's just not cluing in to the bigger picture that this "hammer" is a labrys or labrys-derivative (call it what you will) and the labrys is a religious symbol.

As I explained to Scott to no avail, popular memes are not facts. I can see that if authors published that the world was flat often enough, Wikipedia would actually fall for it hook, line and sinker. Frightening how devolved the human species is becoming that it just can't rise above this shallowness. --Glengordon01 07:48, 27 August 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for helping out

I want to thank you for deleting the images that I tagged for speedy deletion since they are duplicates of images in Commoms. I like to keep the site tidy and organized, and I felt thos eimages were redundant and needed to be cleaned out of the site. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 15:24, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

The main reason why I tagged them for speedy was because the duplicate images on commons are tagged for deletion since they are duplicates too. I wanted to make sure that they were deleted before the ones on commons were, so that the request was legitimate. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 15:41, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Unprotected Rainbow Gathering

I have unprotected Rainbow Gathering so the current status can be evaluated for the arbitration request that has been made. We are leaning toward rejecting the request, but if the trouble is ongoing we might have to change our minds. Fred Bauder 09:21, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Paul Skalić

Hi - It's still not clear why you put a total lock down on that article. There is broad consensus in the talk page that the article, in its current form, is what everyone wants. It was only one rouge anon user that was causing problems - using unreliable sources, NPOV, 3RR, uncivil, etc. etc.. that is why I put in the request for the semi-protect and didn't see any problem in violating 3RR myself, based on the 3RR rules -- which you implied agreement with by semi-protecting that article (which makes your subsequent block of me mystifying). I almost think you did a total block on that article to justify the block of me, not because there wasn't a consensus problem - there is no consensus problem, the article should not be full-protected. Look at the talk page. -- Stbalbach 14:05, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Charun: A desperate appeal for administrator sanity

This User:Scottandrewhutchins troll has gone far enough, and he is quite clearly a troll at this point:

User_talk:Glengordon01:

"You are a hypocrite, therefore your edits are worthless and should all be reverted."
"You're unashamed because you refuse to recognize that you are incompetent"

Meanwhile the layman has mistaken a "krater" jug for a physical "crater", Basic Classic Studies 101. Forgive me if this only reemphasizes the politic feel of Wikipedia. I thought everyone was equal and WP:Civility applied to everyone. You're an administrator, are you not? Why does he not receive warning for these openly hostile ad hominem attacks towards me? --Glengordon01 15:17, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

In fact, asking to have him "warned" after all this hijacking is a bit of a "euphemism". --Glengordon01 15:18, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Hardware Store (song) on deletion review

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Hardware Store (song). Since you closed the deletion discussion for (or speedy-deleted) this article, your reasons on how or why you did so will be greatly appreciated in the above review.

Pagania

Hello! You fulfilled my page protect request and enforced the biased version. The side that refused to discuss and edit-war-POV-pushed its version is now victorious. Any solution to this problem? (please respond at my talk page). --HolyRomanEmperor 20:22, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

RFPP

Thanks for letting me know; the bots are getting more and more sophisticated these days. :-) Jayjg (talk) 23:41, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism by 152.12.4.15 on 'Binaca Geetmala' releated pages.

Hi,

Kindly check the link below and you will find the user using this IP is consistently engaged in vandalism, would request to facilitate in blocking this IP (below list suggest it is used by the user in question only)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=152.12.4.15

Thanks,

Vjdchauhan 05:51, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

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SPEWS

The article Spam Prevention Early Warning System, which you semi-protected in response to my request on WP:RPP, had its semi-protection notice removed by User:Braloj. I restored it, along with reverting the same old, same old fake citations there.

It's worth noting that someone (not I) wrote on this user's talk page that he "appears to be a sock-puppet of the infamous Brad Jesness" back in December 2005. (Brad Jesness is apparently an Internet stalker of some history, according to what you can find by Googling the name.) --FOo 19:00, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you very much for participating in my RFA, which closed successfully today with a result of (62/18/3). I will go very carefully at first, trying to make sure I don't mess up too badly using the tools, and will begin by re-reading all the high-quality feedback I received during the process, not least from those who opposed me. Any further advice/guidance will be gratefully accepted. I hope I will live up to your trust! Guinnog 15:00, 30 August 2006 (UTC)}

RfC

I've decided not to pursue an RfC over the blocking incident, I don't think it would be constructive for either of us. However I think you made a poor judgment call in blocking me. Since you agreed that the semi-protection was required to stop the anon user from violating multiple rules, I was exempt from 3RR myself, according to 3RR rules. Of course technically you had a right to block me for violating 3RR since the *timing* of things were such that I violated 3RR *before* you made the semi-protection, but you implicitly acknowledged that the anon was in the wrong and should be blocked, therefore making me exempt from 3RR in spirit if not technically. There was no content dispute, I was simply defending a page that had been in place and static for months based on many users consensus - it was one rouge anon user pushing an un-sourced, POV nationalistic agenda against many honest legit wikipedia users. I think you should have known this if not by reading the talk page, but looking at the edit history, or by the anons behavior (ie. his lies that I was from Germany, read my user page, it says where I am from, etc..). Anyway I hope in the future when dealing with legit and long-term Wikipedia users versus anon fly by night users that you will give legit editors some benefit of the doubt - anon users who get into conflicts remain anon for a reason, they have no reputation and could care less about Wikipedia rules. -- Stbalbach 15:42, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Pagania

Well, there is nothing I can do except ask you to unprotect the page. Currently, there is no need for it to be protected. What's more, there is a need to have it unprotected. You must understand why I feel a little overprotective for that I article - I wrote it. --HolyRomanEmperor 17:35, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

You're right - but tell me trully: Is it better to have a potentially biased controversal article then an edit war? And I don't want to seem negative - but see it like this - isn't wikipedia against edit warriors, original research, personal attacks and internet trolls? --HolyRomanEmperor 19:33, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
Thank you. Try not to look at the contents - but at the manner of which version is how being pushed. Skim the talk page please (Talk:Pagania) and also please most definately take a look at User_talk:Afrika papripa. It's not endorsing a version - it's making wikipedia what it is. --HolyRomanEmperor 19:55, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Leading zeros on runway designations

Hi Mets501 -- just wanted to let you know to please check my post in Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Airports#No_leading_zeros_on_US_runways before proceeding with any mass change of airport infoboxes to eliminate leading zeros in runway headings -- remember that the U.S. Air Force does use leading zeros, and any bot program should be sure to take this into account. Possibly Naval Air Stations too; I'm not sure. Thanks, --MCB 18:22, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Allegations of state terrorism by United States of America

I will (try) not get to involved with the article, but I think unprotecting will lead to a bitter edit war. I appreciate you attempting to mediate this difficult topic. Travb (talk) 05:39, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again for your hard work. Best wishes. Travb (talk) 16:12, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

YoutubeTalk link, part 2

I've already responded with the assertion that the link is NOT spam, and I stand by that assertion. It's even cited on the Emmalina article, if you'd so kindly look. I request an explanation for your second deletion of the link from Youtube#External Links, or at least a suitable rebuttal to my assertion of the necessity for that link. Thank You. --Toussaint 13:07, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

WHUFC

I'm still a recent editor (to that article) and know very little about the team (just got into football recently and decided to cheer for WHUFC because my mom was born in West Ham--I'm actually in Canada and haven't seen a single game yet), so I probably wouldn't be a good person to ask to do that.  OzLawyer / talk  13:10, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

3rd opinion

Thank you for your nice comment at my talk page! ~ ONUnicorn (Talk / Contribs) 15:19, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Kosovo

You have blocked the POV version of the article. Please return the neutral article and block it until the resolution. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dardanv (talkcontribs)

Lancashire

Do you actually know what consenus means? You do not seem qualifies to offer an opinion on Lancashire , so what do you think you are doing removing requests for external moderation. It looks like your another admin who let power go to their head.--84.9.210.84 18:17, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

removed

Why did you remove the willy on wheels reference

This page-Wikipedia:Vandalism

But then how can i get to the wow long term abuse page i need to get there ::sword dagger 500 03:07, 1 September 2006 (UTC).

Re:Carlos Tévez

Hey, thanks for your msg. The move has been made, so I will unprotect the pages and make the needed changes to both him and Mascherano. Good wiking, Mariano(t/c) 07:19, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Just for the record...

...I did not think your TfDs of the various vandalism userboxes was done to prove a point. I disagreed with them, but didn't think your mentality was anything other than that differed from my own. EVula 18:55, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Ditto. Budgiekiller 10:55, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Pants1992

Im most cases, I agree with the decisions concerning vandals. However, I must ask for a reconsideration of Pants1992. Looking over the history and picture uploads, it's pretty obvious that the account is for nothing more than harrasement. Would like to discuss this with you. Have a great weekend. Rsm99833 02:58, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: your answer on my page-
Fair enough. I've added him to my watch list. It should be noted that he does have a sock-puppet that he's using on the same page, under the name Randomguy111. I've marked that one as well.
Looks like someone else already got him. Newyorkbrad 15:45, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Protection

Thanks for the protection. WikieZach| talk 20:32, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Xbox 360 protection

Have you had a look at the history or talk page before your protection of this page? One section was debated, with 3 users supports one thing, and those 3 constanly reverting to prove their point. Now those of us without accounts can't edit the page, even with accounts we won't be able to four days. And since protection half the page has already been removed with us(accountless) being unable to fix it.

just conpare the preprotection page[19] with this one. It's terrible81.169.180.248 20:55, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

I did look at the history and talk page before protection. There was an edit war going on, and that must be stopped; the page was protected in whichever version I found it in: protection is not an endorsement of the current version of the page. No one can edit the article now, it is fully protected, not semi-protected, so no changes can be made to the article until all disputes are worked out on the talk page of the article. —Mets501 (talk) 22:53, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Ripple Guy block

Contributions look valid... RN 21:20, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

OK - that is too bad. Thanks for informing me :) RN 21:29, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Saw III

Thanks for protecting the page. I really appreciate it.--CyberGhostface 21:49, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

A reminder

Hello! I hope you are feeling fine. I would like to make a humble request. In the future, if you delete any of my images which I have created, please inform me about the deletion and the reasons behind it. For example, the deletion regarding Image:Image-Youth-soccer-indiana.jpg. If I know the reason for this deletion, I would become a better editor and an uploader in the future. Thank you for your kind understanding regarding this. --Siva1979Talk to me 04:10, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, thank you for informing me about this. --Siva1979Talk to me 04:25, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Babel changes

I'm doing it "by hand" with AWB because I also have an extensive set of regular expressions to fix userboxes while I'm at it. Admittedly now I'm down to {{Babel-4}} and below, there are fewer of these, but they still crop up now and again. When I'm finished with this, I shall take the settings which I have accumulated and fiddle with them so that they will recognise the GUS UBs inside {{Babel}} and outside. Then I'll be ready to sally forth and fix all of those. So basically I'm doing it slowly so as to accumulate information for the next stage. HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 13:35, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Oscar nomination

I've taken your comment onboard, have replied on the nom page, and also removed it from my sig. --Oscarthecat 15:40, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Complementary Angle image

I saw where you went back to the original GIF image on complementary angles. I replaced it with my own because I felt that illustrations of basic geometry are better represented with a vector image. In this case, I thought the image quality wasn't quite as good as some of the other images on other geometry pages. --Carl (talk|contribs) 16:26, 3 September 2006 (UTC)


Hi Flyer

Hi,

I am a newbie but I think you were prematiure in deleting "Hi Flyer" using the speedy deletion process - as I had put a justification for keeping it in the talk page as indicated by the "proposed speedy deletion" tag.

Was this an error?

Regards

Simon

Springnuts 22:21, 3 September 2006 (UTC)


OK thanks for your reply, I can't find enough to satisfy the notability police at this time; I will make a note to re-write after this autumn's UK tour when there is something to quote.

Thanks for your help

Simon

Springnuts 21:16, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Battle of Bint Jbeil

Hi! I protected this page, Battle of Bint Jbeil, to stop a revert war. I was somewhat disinterested back then, but no longer. User:Isarig keeps reverting anyone who cites a certain MSNBC article, and since I lowered the protection level, in a cautiously optimistic way, the page will need to be protected if he reverts me again. Contact me if you need more details. Regards, RyanGerbil10(Kick 'em in the dishpan!) 02:22, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

You rock! RyanGerbil10(Kick 'em in the dishpan!) 05:32, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
The revert war has begun again. I know I can;t technically say this impartially, but my and Freepsbane's version is the one actually supported by the cited articles, if you need to protect on The wrong version :) . RyanGerbil10(Kick 'em in the dishpan!) 23:22, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Your sources were quoted verbatim by me to remove your POV. Asking admins to protect your prefered version is a serious breech of ethics. You are out of line yet again. Isarig 23:38, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Merryhobby

I've put all the talk on the user's talk page and set up a redirect from your sub-page. Don't delete the subpage, as it has the history. I hope that gets the problem out of your hair. Just refer it to me or another admin if you get contacted. Tyrenius 03:58, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

PS this talk page is really hard to handle on a low res screen as it's so wide.... Tyrenius 03:59, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

A reply

Well, mistakes do happen.

--Maxasus 11:09, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I think Maxasus was replying to your comment to him here: [20]. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 09:38, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Merryhobby

Mr Mets, I noticed that User:Merryhobby posted another long message here and I'm moving it back to his own talk page. I am going to ask him to post his questions and comments on his own page so others can respond to him as I feel his badgering of you has been really over the top. Please revert me if you disagree and would like his comment here. Hang in there, mate. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 15:48, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Excellent. I'm glad I didn't do the wrong thing! By the way, your friend User:Maxasus in the section above titled "A reply" is a sock of indefinitely blocked User:Joshuarooney. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 16:51, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I see. I've noticed a few other strange messages he's left various people. He also started Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Maxasus where he openly declares he's Joshuarooney, so I'm not sure what he's up to. :/
I've been really busy with work, but I have tomorrow off and I'm planning on having a go at the RfA questions then. So, if I can get the courage up, I'll do it soon. :) Sarah Ewart (Talk) 17:05, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! That's really nice to know. I'm glad you haven't changed your mind! :) Sarah Ewart (Talk) 17:10, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

You must have missed out on the fun and games at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Catamorphism The nominator was blocked in the middle of it and came back with a sock to withdraw his his nom, changed to oppose and wrote a really nasty and vicious oppose statement. [21] Catamorphism and WCityMike ended up leaving Wiki. It was just horrible...so don't you go getting any ideas! lol :) Sarah Ewart (Talk) 19:04, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Hans Henning Atrott

No problem helping out - it's team work. You can do complicated page moves when I need them!

I inadvertently removed protection during page deletion, but I've restored it now. I'll reply to Merryhobby.

My screen is 800 x 600, and your talk page works fine today, but last night it was going way off the screen. Strange.

Tyrenius 16:36, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

RE: Wigstruck

Ah, I see what I did - I looked at the history and saw lots of reverts, and looked at the more recent, and found it to be one of them (I think). But, I didn't see that it was reverting something from a week before *slap*. Please feel free to unprotect it :) —Xyrael / 18:33, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

195.92.109.20

I am inclined to disagree with your opinion that this user is not a vandal. Here are examples of the user's edits:

4/9/06: Chelmsley Wood - Changed "Approximately fifty people are employed in the entertainment industry in the centre of Chelmsley Wood" to "Approximately fifty people are employed in Chelmsley Wood".

7/8/06: Borat - Added the text "Jay Turnbull loves the character so much he wishes he could have anal sex with him ALTHOUGH THO FRANCIS FELLOWS AND HIS AUNTY LESLY GOT THERE FIRST HOE COULD THEY".

19/6/06: Solihull - Added complete nonsence about a non-notable person.

30/5/06: 100 Greatest Britons - Added a non-notable person to the list.

11/5/06: Solihull - More vandalism

15/3/06: Chelmsley Wood - Added "It is home to one of the most succesful businesswomen in the Birmingham area. Miss Pauline Harpinder runs an illegal dvd copying firm that regularly sell over £35 worth of dodgy dvd's at a local car boot sale."

6/12/05: Chelmsley Wood - Added "The Chelmsley Wood bi-annual pig look-a-like fete regularly attracts over thirty thousand people. Miss Chelmsley Wood Pig-A-Like has been crowned the last three years and has won a total of £65 prize money."

The list goes on.

Much of this vandalism might not be recent, but it should have been stopped months ago and today's edit shows it will only go on. If you do not feel the user should be blocked, please do something to control the user - I am an inexperienced user and don't know how best to deal with this myself. Thanks. Abc30 18:48, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Username.

Hi, I've noticed that there are some user name is like email address. I'm very curious about email ID. Is E-mail ID inappropriate for user name? Some of them leave welcome messages on new user who's ID is e-mail address. Is E-mail adress ID used in Wikipedia? Anyways, Please reply in my message. Do not copy my messages. Cheers!Daniel's page 01:36, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I think you want me to respond here ("please reply in my message" is ambiguous). Using your email address as your Wikipedia username is generally frowned upon. If you come across a user using their email address as their Wikipedia username, you should probably place {{subst:WelcomeEmail}} on their talk page. —Mets501 (talk) 01:45, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

David Flores(jockey)

I think that David fits in the requirements for notoriety or notability....the page link has been made as though it will be a page in the future. I don't want my work to be wasted...and besides it needs some work. Your response will be appreciated.--Friendlymat 01:43, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Userpage.

Thanks for your response on user that's name is e-mail address. I really want to ask one more question about your user page, because I decided to design my user page like yours. But, I don't know how Can I design my user page like yours. So, Could you please explain to me how to design my user page like yours? cheers. Please, reply in my user page. Do not copy my messages so it will not be fragmented. Daniel's page 01:55, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

My user page is designed using tables and css div and span tags. See Help:Table for help on making tables. —Mets501 (talk) 01:57, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

User:Merryhobby

He has made a statement on his talk page, categorically withdrawing any legal threat, so I have unblocked him. Tyrenius 07:28, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Ehud Olmert

This page appears to have been semi-protected for over a week. You were correct to respond in this manner to vandalism from multiple sources, but perhaps it is time to open the article up again. savidan(talk) (e@) 12:14, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Derek Jeter

I think this is the right place to put this, but still i'm not sure. I wrote some things for Derek Jeter. I wrote down some updated stats, which still remained, but extra things I wrote, like for "The Dive," or in Clutch hits section, they were all gone. Did someone just go on the section and get rid of them? I can understamd getting rid of what I wrote for Clutch hits, but with The Flip I changed the paragraphs a bit and yet it was as if I never even went there. The new picture I put for Derek Jeter is also gone. What happened?

Userboxes

Thanks for adopting many userboxes into your user space! However, I don't think ISO language userboxes are being userfied: they are of clear encyclopedia value. —Mets501 (talk) 15:40, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Does that nessasarily prevent me from userfying them? What if I want to have them anyway? —Disavian (talk/contribs) 01:53, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

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Per Xaosflux's final approval [22], I've granted a bot flag to your bot, MetsBot. Cheers, Redux 08:01, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

RE: Test Wiki

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Metsbot

Hi, your bot tagged the Albany River Rats as WP:North Carolina. That's an ice hockey team in Albany, New York whose only connection to North Carolina is a new affiliation with the Carolina Hurricanes. I guess you can argue it either way, but I think most people would lean towards not including the article. ccwaters 22:52, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Wikiproject North Carolina

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I'll finish it up Betacommand (talkcontribsBot) 00:14, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

hay i might have to revert some of those edits made by your bot no hard feelings, I am working out the kinks for this run at this & User:Betacommand/North Carolina because some of the sub cats shouldnt get tagged. Betacommand (talkcontribsBot) 00:20, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Review?

Hello! I hope you are feeling fine. I hope I can have your comments on my recent edits on image namespace where I added a few copyright templates (for example, a few of them has the nsd tags. Also review the comments I left on the users who uploaded these images without any copyright labels in them on their respective talkpages. Please correct and tell me if I had wrongly placed any of these tags on the image namespace. I intend to be very proficient in this aspect of Wikipedia, so I need your feedback. Thank you for your time and kind understanding in this matter! --Siva1979Talk to me 01:32, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, thank you for your encouraging comments. I am glad I have not made any major blunders yet! However, please inform me if I incorrectly tag an image in the future. My intention here is to be very proficient in this area of the project and to ease the workload of admins. I will consult you if I have any doubts about these issues. Thank you for your time and patience. --Siva1979Talk to me 01:47, 8 September 2006 (UTC)


Strive

To you, Mets501 I give the Strive banner for Striving in your kindness and positive attitude. Dfrg.msc 1 . 2 . 3 08:28, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Mets501, you are very welcome. Dfrg.msc 1 . 2 . 3 22:32, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Both banners are now listed under Category:Wikipedia awards. I'm very happy to use either, depending I suppose, on the person. Thanks, Dfrg.msc 1 . 2 . 3 08:02, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing one of my broken userboxen!

I just wanted to say "thanks" for repairing the broken syntax of my second-hand smoke userbox code. Good job and keep your chin up. :)--Saintlink 09:40, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Windows XP

Please I want to edit the article to add a new section of my following:

  • Development

Polar coordinates

I added the history section that a user suggested, based on the lecture notes by Julian Coolidge. Coolidge has 9 books at the public library in your city, so there's more than ample room for further investigation if you want to at some point. Regards, Newyorkbrad 18:22, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Mets501's Writing Style in Userboxes

>>This user considers singular they standard English usage. Ending a sentence with a preposition is something this user is okay with. This user knows that "there" and "their" are not the same word. This user is a punctuation stickler. This user puts two spaces after a period. This user prefers the serial comma. This user understands the difference between "its" and "it's." Thi's user know's that not every word that end's with "s" need's an apostrophe and will remove misused apostrophe's from Wikipedia with extreme prejudice.<<

This user's writing style contains one error. Newyorkbrad 23:02, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
What's the error? Should it be "This user knows that "there" and "their" is not the same word."? —Mets501 (talk) 23:07, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
No, that one is right as it stands. I don't agree that "singular they" is "standard English usage." While I understand that treating "they"/"them"/"their" as singular can make it easier to write gender neutral English, which I support, this usage is still too grating on my ear at this point; and in any event, it is not well enough established to be deemed "standard." But you score major points with me for caring about these issues. :) Regards, Newyorkbrad 23:13, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
You didn't really have to remove it just because (i) I teased you, and (ii) I was the sort of nerdy kid who had a copy of Fowler when I was 15. By the way, when replying on the other user's talk page, how do you make the text you are responding to appear there? I copied-and-pasted it manually, but I'm sure there's a wiki-way to do it more quickly. Newyorkbrad 23:27, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Sadly copy-pasting is the only way. And I know I don't have the remove the userbox, but now that you pointed it out, I want to remove it :-) —Mets501 (talk) 23:30, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, but I don't want to sadly copy-paste; I would prefer to cheerfully copy-paste. You must have typed that sentence while comma-tose. Newyorkbrad 23:35, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Edit Problem

There is a discussion with 2 members of wikipedia which has resulted in 2 personal attacks on my user talk page after I reverted POV text and may I add not well written text from the Nine Network article. Would you look into it and I realise I may of broken the 3R Rule however I did try various routes to solve this problem and they came up empty such as Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. - Mike Beckham 23:20, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. - Mike Beckham 23:30, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Please note that I was making a simple change to the Nine Network page and there was an edit conflict. There was no vandalism by me at least. I tried to unglue it and notified who I thought were the last editors of the last relevant edits. Please do not persecute mewith your quite unjust accusations. Albatross2147 23:43, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

- Mike Beckham

Erm excuse me where was the perosnal attack? I was asking for an apology for his unwarranted accusation that I was "experimenting" on the Nine Network. Like that user perhaps you should check what has gone on before jumping to conclusions. Admins are not there to side with particular user or at least they weren't the last time I looked. Albatross2147 23:37, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Look - I was making a small change to the Nine Network which unhappily coincided with Michaelbeckham's revert of some content he clearly didn't like. I noticed that there was a clump of deleted stuff on which I didn't draw any POV conclusions and other missing bits and pieces. I then tried a manual fix to the page and I thought I had notified everyone I thought might have had an interest in the pages's content. Then Michaelbeckham left an unwarranted attack on my page and I responded by asking him to correct it - not unreasonable I would have thought. Many hours later I reminded him with some vehemence. However he chose to rush off to at least two admins to complain instead of responding to me in some way directly. Albatross2147 00:07, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Another point I would make is that if you did not have time to get involved in investigating the allegations properly - why get involved at all? Leaving all sorts of quite unwarranted warnings seems a little unfair and somewhat over the top. Albatross2147 00:14, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aaron Emmett Hughes

I have noticed when you closed the above AfD, you did not remove the category template, "REMOVE THIS TEMPLATE WHEN CLOSING THIS AfD". By deleting this when closing it pulls the discussion out of the category. I have deleted it from this discussion, but if you could review any other closures you have done recently and remove the tag from them it would be greatly appreicated. Thanks. --Gay Cdn (talk) (email) (Contr.) 01:57, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Semi-Protection

Heya, I was wondering if the level of vandalism and socking on the Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit (third nomination) page has risen to the level of serious vandalism needed to semi a page? I notice you had protected it, but there's really only a handful of problematic edits on it, and they were inactive (8 or so hours since any editing) And at least one good faith anon edit on the talk page. I don't think it's the last option left on the page per WP:SEMI. Thanks! Rx StrangeLove 05:38, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, great! I was just concerned that since there was no vandalism/socking going on at the moment, sprotect wasn't really called for. But it's taken off now, so it's all good. Rx StrangeLove 15:52, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Bot request

Mad kudos for the quick and friendly response to my request! Appreciate it. —Akrabbimtalk 21:51, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Those two images

Sorry about not replying for so long - your message sort of got buried on my talk page! Thanks for the reminder (it's a shame I was away - they'd been deleted by the time I got back). I was probably preparing to tag them for speedy deletion myself (as creator) as they (at the time you left your message) served no real purpose. I'm not sure, but I think I mentioned that User:Eagle_101 had given me permission to use the images, but I see fully why they were deleted, being primarily tagged as fair use. Thanks agin :) Martinp23 20:43, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

RfA

Mr Mets, do you think you could please update the edit count in your nom on the RfA page? I've just gone over 5000 [23] Many thanks, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 01:21, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Might be an idea to update your signature, to show you haven't changed your mind since! Tyrenius 02:38, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Going acceptably well so far, I think. :) Mets501 for nominator of the year! Newyorkbrad 22:36, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

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Eigenvalue, eigenvector and eigenspace

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Automated gramtical edits

I am approving each one myself, and am not using a bot. * am using buttons which i found on a script and added to my monobook.js. I try to revert changes promptly if the script makes erros. Thankyou for your concern. -- JiMoThYTALK 13:34, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing!

Image distorting printable version

Although I have several images in Tourette syndrome, I am having problems with only one image distorting the text when I print from Printable version. I can't figure out what is causing the problem. The image of Jean-Martin Charcot in the History section causes distorted text when I print the article using the Printable version, but that is not happening with any other image. Part of the text is cut off, and text shows in the margins around the image, so it seems to have something to do with a frame or a border. Any help is appreciated: thanks! Sandy 21:21, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Nothing's distorted for me. —Mets501 (talk) 05:25, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, Mets ... it doesn't show in the printable version on-screen: it only shows when you actually print it. Sandy 14:38, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
(PS - I second the request above that we need help at FAR on Eigenstuff. Sandy 16:26, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for checking ... I don't know. I'm having various poltergeists today. Sandy 21:41, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

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Hey Mets, some great news! My RfA passed 160/4/1! I'm completely blown away by the fact that many people supported me! I want to thank you very much for writing such a great nomination for me, for standing so solidly behind me and for encouraging me to go for it. I feel really honoured that you were willing to put your name up there next to mine. Thank you, Mets. :) Cheers mate, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 08:40, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

User page

Hi, I liked what you did for User:Newyorkbrad. Any chance of having a look at mine? Sorry to be so cheeky and I won't mind in the least if you have better things to do. Thanks if you can manage anything, --Guinnog 19:59, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Sure Guinnog, no problem! I'd love to! If you can give me a few parameters, that would be great, and I can try to do it within 24 hours. These details would be great:
  • A table border color
Dark green
  • A table background color (if you want one)
Very pale yellow
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Just black is fine
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Just black is fine there too
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I noticed my current page doesn't diplay well in IE. I have no idea why that is, and I very seldom use Exploder. But it would be nice if my new one worked for all common browsers.
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Thank you very much indeed! --Guinnog 20:09, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

I like it! Thank you! I didn't really expect that open invitation to decorate the page to get accepted! Now I just need to create some content for the page to be worthy of the prettiness. I'm working on it. Thanks again. Newyorkbrad 20:01, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

I like mine very much indeed too! Thank you so much, I wish I had your skill at this kind of work. Now if you ever want anything copyedited accurately... --Guinnog 21:32, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Keep em coming! You are a star. --Guinnog 00:24, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
That looks great now, thank you. Can you possibly change the blue to a darkish green? Or tell me how to? Sorry to be a bother but it seems to clash with the other colours a bit. --Guinnog 00:34, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

I got my own back by making some sneaky edits to your user page! Thanks for all your good work. --Guinnog 00:53, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm as useless at conferring barnstars as I am at designing pages, but I join in the sentiments! Newyorkbrad 00:54, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks guys! —Mets501 (talk) 02:03, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Inquiry

Hello! I hope you are feeling fine. I have got a question to ask. For this image, is it still appropriate to add the tag {{nsd}}? Is my recent edit correct? However, now I feel that the problem has been solved. Secondly, is it correct to tag this image with {{nsd}} as well? The source of this image is not found as well. If I am correct, a URL is needed here. Your help in this would be deeply appreciated. --Siva1979Talk to me 01:33, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Charun

That conflict seems to have died down. At Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Glengordon01, Glengordon01 agreed to stop editing the page. The RFC and the article talk page have been quiet for several days now. Do you think it's time to unprotect the article? Four weeks seems like a long time for page protection. Cordially, Durova 17:16, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

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Welcome to the Wikipedia: Physics Project

Mets501, welcome to the WP: Physics Project. I am a fellow Physics Wikipedian and I'll be glad to assist you if I can. You'll find many resources that allow you to edit or support articles related to your interests. With an aptitude and interest in this field I would highly encourage you spend some time looking over the "big" articles such as Physics, Light, Gravity, Electromagnetism, Big Bang, etc. to get an idea of the general Wikipedia approach to physics articles, and to compare the content with what you know from your education - see if there is anything you can improve or add. Here is the top list of the most important articles on physics in Wikipedia. And don't be afraid to make bold edits, as long as they are in the spirit of the Wikipedia Five Pillars, especially if you have verifiable sources cited. You are probably already familiar with the style guide but here is a link to it for you anyway. Enjoy! Cheers, Astrobayes 06:22, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Here's an updated link to the WP:Physics Top Articles. The link I gave you above has been archived. Glad to see you on board! Cheers, Astrobayes 17:36, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Why does {{coor dms}} now point at Google maps

Hi. As the edit history suggests you were responsible for the change, you should be aware that I have just added the following comment to Template talk:Coor dms:

Can anybody tell me why this template has all of a sudden been changed to point at Google's rather poor resolution streetmap site. The previous target allowed the selection of mapping appropriate to the target and required usage (for example to select a decent topographic map in out of city areas, or even to start up Google Earth), and was much preferrable to this approach. All the change history says is changing to google maps, problem with previous link. There is nothing there or here to detail the problems, or any other reasons for this massively retrograde step. Can somebody please explain, and give some kind of a timetable for reinstatement. Failing that, could someone with admin privilege please revert the change.

I'd invite you to respond on that page. -- Chris j wood 19:55, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Is this page not Apple-compatible?

Hi, Mets. I'm at a relative's house this weekend. She has a MacIntosh instead of the Windows-based machines I normally use at home and work. For some reason, on this machine, your talk page comes up completely blank. Every other page is fine. It's not a big deal, but I thought that was the sort of thing that might interest you, and I wonder whether any other Mac-users might be having the same problem. Regards, Newyorkbrad 17:42, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Update

(What I orginally came to this page for.) Just thought you might wanted to know that since someone must have missed it at the time, I belatedly updated Wikipedia:Unsuccessful adminship candidacies with respect to you. It's supposed to reflect happy endings. :) Regards, Newyorkbrad 17:45, 23 September 2006 (UTC)


UnProtection Request

I would like for you to consider me rewriting the Orgonite page- I can write what needs to be said in a neutral manner. Thanks for consideration; Kasdaye

Replacement of PNG with SVG on {{guideline}}, et al.

Please don't replace the PNG image with an SVG on these templates; it renders badly in IE and is larger when converted to PNG (as MediaWiki does). æ² 2006-09-24t22:39z

See Template talk:Guideline#Replacement image. æ² 2006-09-24t22:47z


UnProtectionRequest- pt. 2

I have finished orgonite/temp; It's simple, cohernet, to-the-point, and non-biased... Kasdaye 15:59, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

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Unprotection Request, pt. 3

I've added a reference to [Orgonite/Temp], but I can't say that it's appears very reliable, although all sites refering to the subject of karl welz and the discovery of orgonite say the same thing; However, I cannot find anything purely editorial on the subject. Kasdaye 16:26, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

need some help

hi um do you have information on denm,and cotton

This was the version me and Lmz00 created an edit war on

This was the version I worked on September 21, 2006. No vandalism, no weasel words, sourcing, and no copyright violations. This edit war with Lmz00 has gotten to a point where I refuse to answer to the user. The user cannont resolve this dispute without using inactive comments toward myself and others. It's just simplified just to compromise a fair look at the article without using too many links and notable likeness. And for the user to use 50 instead of 50 Cent, that just another way of saying a number said this instead of a rapper. Just look at the current version. The last time I edit this article was about at least a week ago. I asked for a protection to inactive users who choose not to compromise, and refuse to work as a community. I hope this version (I left above in the link) is used on this article.

This is the current version that User Lmz00 left after I ceased the edit war. And yes, this is what is on the article (and you can decide)!

Multiple use of name of Sean Combs. Here the list of words, Diddy, Puffy, P. Diddy, Combs, Sean "Puffy" Combs is located throughout the whole article. All I suggested was to used was mogul or rapper, to cease the constant use of the person's name. (Inproper use of proper names)!

Mase still claimed the status of a pastor. The album contained no curse words and was not derogatory in any way towards females. (Weasel words)!

'50 was in talks with Diddy to buy Mase from Bad Boy in order to sign him to G-Unit. However, those talks fell through, prompting 50 to make a diss record towards Diddy titled "The Bomb" (which accuses him of stalling said negotiations). In addition, 50 also mentions no longer wanting to make a deal. (Inproper wording of proper names, weasel words, and not neutral in explaining feud with rappers)!

Mase's desire to leave Bad Boy is primarily due to his third album not selling so well. (This is an example of weasel words)!

This has been discredited however, by the wider hip-hop community. Mase has also been called a hypocrite by former G-Unit member, The Game, who called out the pastor (as well as other G-Unit members) on his anti-G-Unit DVD, Stop Snitchin', Stop Lyin'. (Another example of weasel words)!

Ok that it. Thanks. LILVOKA 15:49, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Note about wiki.png change

Hi, I was just taking a look at wiki.png and I noted that yours was the last edit of the file. I understand that you made some type of graphical change to it, but at the same time, the filesize just about doubled. It's still a relatively small file, and I'm sure that the picture itself is cached all over the internet, but it is on every page so it's bound to be downloaded an insane number of times. I've no clue as how to weigh aesthetics vs economics, especially given I don't know what the bandwidth issues are, but I thought I'd just bring this to your attention. Thanks! El benito 22:13, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

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210.14.27.178 05:15, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Pontian Greek Genocide

Thanks. Feel free to express your opinion on the issue, when the disputing side decides to present their sources.•NikoSilver 14:22, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Could you please tell me for what possible reason you would remove those tags while the article is both blocked and under dispute? I dont know if you read the talk page in its entirety, but issues such as factual accuracy (the use of sources which are irrelevant or off topic) and the notability of its title (editors are yet to present evidence that this title is the favoured view among third party academics) are still unresolved. Other than misleading readers to the credibility of the article, what possible reason is there for removing those tags? I really would appreaciate a reply. Thanks, --A.Garnet 14:43, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
I support the tag removal (it's about time - those tags have been hanging there for weeks and none of the disputing parties have tried to fix the article to make it neutral other than moan about the title). However, do you think you could add an interwiki to the German Wikipedia:de:Völkermord an den Pontosgriechen, and remove the deleted image. Thanks. --Tzekai 15:05, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm responding here because I can't respond on everyone's talk pages. I removed the tags as it doesn't seem like anyone thinks the title is POV, and that is what the tag implies. There are also tons of references, which I don't know how they could have been accumulated if the article wasn't verifiable. —Mets501 (talk) 15:13, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

You saw the straw poll going on right? You will notice there are four editors who object to the title, and that doesnt include those who have not voted. So clearly there are some of us who still believe the title POV. As for the references, i would ask you take more than a superficial look at them, and instead look at each one, the sources confuse different events, different people and different times to the ones being alleged, meaning the factual accuracy is still highly questionable. --A.Garnet 15:26, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
Indeed, the article is wholly inaccurate and unsourced, almost every sentence is linked to a footnote and as a miracle, there are no {{fact}} templates in the article. As for people disputing the article's title, the article Armenian Genocide has been proposed for deletion twice, so I'm hardly surprised. --Tzekai 15:31, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
That was sarchasm, right? (about it being wholly inaccurate and unsourced) —Mets501 (talk) 15:37, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
Yes... --Tzekai 15:43, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
Actually, A.Garnet, you're right. The article does contain one inaccuracy which I just noticed: The article currently says: the number of lost lives is uncertain the maximum number of deaths forwarded is 353,000. This is inaccurate, Merrill D. Peterson (in this book), a non-Greek, says that 360,000 "Greeks from the Pontus" were killed. The former figure is just common, for example, when the State Senate of Illinois recognized the events as a genocide, they say 353,000 people died. --Tzekai 15:35, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
There's one more, intro says:
The term Pontian Greek Genocide (...) refers to the alleged genocide by the Young Turk administration of the Ottoman Empire of Pontian Greek populations in the historical region of Pontus, the Black Sea provinces of the Ottoman Empire.
"alleged" is WP:WEASEL, I always thought 'reported' would suffice to claim allegation...•NikoSilver 15:49, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
The "alleged" is something I don't mind, really. It's just listed at WP:WTA. --Tzekai 15:53, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
From your response, am to to understand your going to ignore those of us who dispute the title and its accuracy Mets501? Tell me, in article which claims the events ended in 1919, why, in the only section which deals with the event, does it use souces from the 1920's, concerning Jews and Aegean Greeks in labour camps which were used for an entirely different war? Doesnt this make the article factually innacurate? Doesnt the fact that one country (Greece) recognise this evetn as genocide raise some POV issues? Or the fact there are no third party texts outside of Greece dedicated to this event using this name? How you can remove the tags when these issues are still in question is beyond me. --A.Garnet 15:56, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
No country at all recognizes the Assyrian genocide, yet the Pontus events have gained recognition outside of Greece (the State Senate of Pennsylvania for example). Anyway, Mets501 all this has been answered time and time again, and this guy (A.Garnet) just closes his ears and then asks the same old questions again. Just read the article's talkpage and you'll get to fully appreciate what's going on here. --Tzekai 16:09, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Is this becoming an admin edit war? I'm reporting the incident in WP:AN. •NikoSilver 20:44, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Comments below are copied from article talk, please proceed there, and stop copying your comments everywhere. Mets501, on behalf of my fellow editors, sorry for flooding your talk. •NikoSilver 21:41, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

I mean, I have to say this again, is there really no dispute? Or have I been thinking about another article? There are such little sources that prove that this was a genocide.. The others, recognitions et al, prove that it was recognized as a genocide.. In that case, I can go to Iran article and add terrorist in the intro - Iran is a terrorist country that is located in.. depending on US recognition to that effect.. That's what I am saying, three web-sites that don't include practically any research and a paragraph in a book doesn't support this article's grave title.. There are huge factual inaccuracies and there is a huge lack of academic research, even the supporters of this title accept the fact that, outside of greece, there are NO books that refer to this as genocide, and none of the sources listed already have any serious academic research.. Some of the sources cited would never be included in any other article in Wikipedia, there are those that call Turks baby-killers and are written by Greeks.. Is that serious reference to support this article's grave title?? Baristarim 21:09, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

*Yes there is*, it has been repeated time and time again. R. J. Rummel was one of the first sources cited (right at the beginning of Archive 1) and has been repeatedly ignored by everyone disputing the title. Side A has cited sources - when is side B (the anti-genocide faction) going to cite it's sources, because thus far, nothing has been cited. Where is the proof that the genocide thesis is disputed by third parties. We have third parties endorsing it, third parties not mentioning it, but no third parties dismissing the genocide thesis. As Hectorian said: "without sources, this article ain't gonna be renamed". --Tzekai 21:28, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Page Protection

May you protect this page: Template:Pokepisode, there is a edit war going on. Thank you (Yugigx60 16:13, 1 October 2006 (UTC))

You protected it on his version; an administrator created this template in the first place, and now it's on the version that has been edit warred with to allow for images within the pages it is transcluded. Now it's just a double of {{digimon episode}}. Ryūlóng 20:19, 1 October 2006 (UTC)


Personally, I think images are good for the articles, and as long as images are conveying and adapting on central themes of the plot, they pass fair use. Can we have a discussion on this? Highway Daytrippers 18:40, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Screenshots help identify episodes visually and identify key moments. Identifiying episodes and distingushing between them are key reasons for having List of episodes type articles.
  • Screenshots of television shows which are released for promotional purposes are more likely to be fair use, especially low-resolution screenshots.
  • Many lists, including featured lists, currently use fair use images.
  • Most if not all images comply with the current fair use criteria, are tagged with relevant templates (such as {{DVDcover}} or {{tv-screenshot}}) and provide a rationale on their description page.

Note, I will also go to every single Pokemon episode images and add the Fair use rationale, so they can be allowed on the episode list pages. (Bobabobabo 16:06, 1 October 2006 (UTC))

Except it fails Fair Use #3, which has hundred of images on each page, and nice signing your name Yugigx60 (talk · contribs) with Bobabobabo (talk · contribs). Ryūlóng 20:25, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
A lot of "list of episodes" pages have screenshots. (See The Simpsons (season 3) for example).
Also Ryulong, you blatantly violated the 3RR. Be careful. —Mets501 (talk) 20:30, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Yes alot of episode pages has images!

I really like the images, and so many articles have it, I think it's accepted. —Mets501 (talk) 20:36, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

I know that I've probably broken something along the way, but this above user had to go to an outside person to win his argument. A Man In Black originally created the template with a malformed image parameter (so it wouldn't show up on the page), but then anons and these users just made it so the other template was to be used. Now this guy had changed the template to be a duplicate of that one just so that the images which all may not pass Fair Use Criteria #3 (too many fair use pictures on one page) could be used. This is why I am a bit angry at all of this. Ryūlóng 20:40, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Also, check out Template talk:Pokepisode where AMIB spoke with one of the reverters. Ryūlóng 20:50, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Some history, an explanation, and an apology.

This template was created after discussion on the Pokémon Wikiproject's talk page led to a community desire to clean up the massively unencyclopedic and scattered Pokémon episode articles. A number of points were agreed upon, including combining the episode articles into season lists, splitting up the already-groaning Japanese season lists by English-language season, and retiring the massive violation of Wikipedia's image fair-use rules by transclusion of hundreds of fair-use images, most of them unsourced and unrationalized to boot.

This is a pressing fair-use issue; it borders on copyright violation and this issue, while controversial, has been commented upon by both Brad Patrick and Jimbo Wales as a pressing issue that must err on the side of exclusion of fair-use material. While there may be a need for futher discussion, there is a pressing need to exclude questionable fair-use content until after it is justified, and not before.

As such, I've edited the currently-protected {{Pokepisode}} to err on the side of exclusion of the infringing issues until Bobabobabo/Yugigx60/72.232.215.* can better justify their inclusion. I apologize for overriding your page protection, but this is an issue that, in the past, has needfully trumped what people would like for what's necessary. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 22:11, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Fair use is an acceptable rationale when the image is used to illustrate an article that is commenting on the episode. I believe simply having a list of episodes does not meet this hurdle as the images on the list article are largely decorative. Note that this is a repeat of the debate of a month ago on whether NCAA team logos could be used only on the team page or also on lists of conference members where the use is largely decorative. Just because many other TV show articles have lists with images doesn't mean its right. Image thumbnails were recently removed from List of Lost episodes for example. You might also want to consider load times for dialup users. List of Lost episodes took over one minute to load when I tested it on dialup. If you want yet another opinion as User:Durin who is a copyright expert. Thatcher131 15:38, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
I really have no strong opinion on this. The whole thing that started this was me protecting the template due to a request, and it's true: there was an edit war. I really was not endorsing the fact that there should be an image. You're perfectly welcome to do what ever you want with the template: I'm not copyright expert either. I'm cool with whatever you guys decide to do (although you should probably continue this discussion on the template's talk page, so that others can contribute). —Mets501 (talk) 01:06, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for move

Thankyou ever so much for moving the page in my userspace. Being ever so slightly obsessive anyway, as much as it sounds odd that was getting to me a bit, and all over my own silly mistake. It was really really appreciated.

The Worker's Barnstar
For tirelessly working through the laborious Requested moves backlog, including of course, my own 7 day old listing. Crimsone 17:21, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Blockedtext changes

Hey Mets501, if you can get {{ipvandal}} to work inside {{unblock}} without clobbering the entire unblock reason, it'd be great. That's why I had to keep the two separate. --  Netsnipe  ►  21:47, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Help

When I heard someone on the radio from Wikipedia it sounded such a good idea. That you had a community working with each other to refine articles and gain a consensus rather than just one person's opinion. From what I have seen that was a lie. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the article on House of Lords reform that can't be corrected with a bit of work. Instead of supporting new people like me, people like you who press delete without seemingly thinking about it ... I won't go on, I'll just say I'm livid with the hypocracy. Why don't you prove to me what that bloke said on the radio was true and give us a hand? Mike 22:12, 1 October 2006 (UTC)


HELP me

User: Ryulong is bothering me. Didn't you say that the articles needs images? (Bobabobabo 22:25, 1 October 2006 (UTC))

There is a whole discussion above this about that. A Man In Black and Mets501 will now discuss this. Ryūlóng 22:28, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Don't forget to put protection templates on

Such as on Masse, which you protectd due to edit warring, but didn't put the template on. Just a heads up. JesseW, the juggling janitor 08:58, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Dredging up episode list image issue again

Yugigx60 (talk · contribs) is being persistent on this issue of images on episode list articles. It's my understanding that such usage is not allowed. Some people say no fair use images should be allowed anywhere and some say it should be a free-for-all but I think at least not allowing 150 of them on an episode list article is a good compromise. I think this pretty easily fails #8 of the WP:FUC policy as well as #3. The images are already being used in the articles for the specific episode - using them again in the episode list goes beyond the policy. A few people - User:Ta bu shi da yu for one if I recall - have gone through sports-related articles removing team logos from standings tables, etc. —Wknight94 (talk) 16:57, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Ma$e Cat piping

It would appear you either failed to examine each of the edits that you reverted, or have incomplete understanding of the alph'n of Cats, which in the case of that article i had corrected. Please examine that edit & summary, and get back to me if you don't get it, or disagree.
--Jerzyt 17:01, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
Oh, whoops! I didn't note the rename (on which i don't have a position). But i'd suggest that the piping be kept, bcz protection won't last forever, and someone may move it back, recreating the same cryptic problem! Thanks, and sorry.
--Jerzyt 17:05, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

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Your revert of my edit

You can revert any of my edits you like, but "rvv" for an edit summary is pushing it!

  • (The relevance of the radians-vs-degrees point was that natural sciences and physical applications tend to use radians because they are rationally based, whereas practical sciences are more likely to adapt arbitrary conventions. I accept that that is peripheral to this article, though.) Newyorkbrad 01:17, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I think you need your eyes checked, sir: my edit summary was "I don't really see the need for that change. Certainly true, but I don't see its relevance" :-) —Mets501 (talk) 01:21, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
It did say that, but in parens before that, it did say "rvv." It's weird, because I was sure you didn't type it. Do you have something configured to type that automatically? Newyorkbrad 01:24, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
No, I typed the rvv :-) My full edit summary was just "rvv) (I don't really see the need for that change. Certainly true, but I don't see its relevance", and the MediaWiki software adds parenthesis on either side of the whole thing, making it look like two parts. And it was actually a typo, I meant to leave off the last "v" :-) —Mets501 (talk) 01:27, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Aha - the crucial admission! No further questions, your Honor. Newyorkbrad 01:30, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Alpha Kappa Alpha

Thanks. I'm glad it was protected in its pre-vandal state. I've tried to reason with User:Mykungfu on his talk page, but I'm holding firm that there will be no discussion until the vandalism stops. Incidentally, are you a Met fan? | Mr. Darcy talk 01:48, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the full protection of the page. Unlike MrDarcy who has can be seen reverting over 3 times today alone, semi protection isn't beneficial but full protection allows for talks. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=MrDarcy Can you please make a note to have it protected for at least 10 days to go over things. thank you 64.12.117.10 02:33, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

I figured. Concerned about El Duque? Anyway, our vandal has moved along to Sigma Pi Phi - semi-protection on that page as well would help. (And FWIW, one of the vandal's favorite tricks is to accuse his accusers. I've reverted his deletions on AKA only twice today.) | Mr. Darcy talk 02:49, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm moving for Full protection on Sigma Pi Phi 64.12.117.10 02:58, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Protection

I had User:RaccoonFox listed twice...one was supposed to be User:Raccoon_Fox...could that be protected as well? thank you. :) RaccoonFoxTalkStalk 02:06, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

I greatly appreciate this. Even if it was declined, i would have still appreciate the administrators taking the time to read my request. I would ouly leave wikipedia if the vandalism got too much for me and made it not worth visiting (which has not happened yet). Cheerio! RaccoonFoxTalkStalk 02:14, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Decline Vic Grimes + others

You declined my sprotect request on that "the vandal has been blocked" but the vandal is using AOL IPs that change depending on the pages, and those definately were not blocked as they returned a few hours later. –– Lid(Talk) 04:40, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

To clarify the sprotect requests were for the talk pages, which have not been locked and he continues to spam templates on them. –– Lid(Talk) 02:51, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Image discussion

You have been asked to participate in a mediation relating to the use images in articles detailing episodes of the Pokémon anime. If you wish to input into discussion, you can do so here, all help is welcomed towards a positive resolution. Cheers, Highway Daytrippers 20:58, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Plains Indians

Thank you for sprotecting Plains Indians but I thought that I should mention that the article doesn't carry the relevant tag. TerriersFan 01:19, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Veps

Thanks for moving Vepses to Veps. How can one fix the same word on the map? I have no experience with WP images. --Espoo 10:33, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

false berry

Thanks for the Veps map help! How can one find a botanist among WP editors? We need an expert to sort out the unresolved mess discussed on Talk:Cranberry, Talk:Vaccinium_vitis-idaea, Talk:False_berry, and in several related articles. --Espoo 11:22, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Sautéed Reindeer

Sorry to bother you again. I goofed and moved a page to Sautéed Reindeer instead of Sautéed reindeer, and now i can't figure out how to change it. --Espoo 12:34, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Noncontroversial moves

Awesomes. I hope it works out well. ENeville 23:25, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting the name on Hungarian Revolution of 1956. Your act is important to get our next peer review, to go up for FAC and hopefully even FA on its 50th anniversary. Thanks for your help! Istvan 15:42, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

AIV

Kind sir, please clear WP:AIV. Thank you! :) --CableModem 01:30, 7 October 2006 (UTC) Wonderful! Come chill with me on irc.freenode.net #wikipedia sometime! --CableModem 01:34, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

re:WP:RM

Thanks for telling me, and for moving the article. *scratches head* Has WP:RM always formatted for noncontroversial and controversial moves? Hmm.. I've been away for too long :) — Moe 02:02, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Guess thats why I don't remember it :) Regards — Moe 02:05, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Typhoon Xangsane

FYI you forgot to undelete the prior versions of the article and corresponding talk page after the move. – Chacor 14:05, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

It wasn't simply a redirect (one single edit); rather there was a prior version that was merged into the main article for the season. Not sure, but I'll defer to you, but personally I would restore it. – Chacor 14:11, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Bold correction

I was bold and changed "would" to "wouldn't" which I believe was your original intention (as interpreted from the edit summary). I hope you don't start throwing cookies!  freshofftheufoΓΛĿЌ  15:23, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Template.

Thnaks for letting me know that, but I can't get it to work. Could you check my css thingy and see what I'm doing wrong? Dev920 (Tory?) 16:37, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Brixen

Hi, you closed the move discussion at Talk:Brixen, Italy. Your votes count was probably different from mine, because I do see a consensus. We have a majority for "Brixen" (Olessi, Gryffindor, Ajaxsmack and myself) versus "Bressanone-Brixen" (Taalo, Panarjedde), and no votes for "Brixen, Italy". Could you move it? Markussep 17:14, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Trentino-South Tyrol/etc/etc.

Hi, I saw your messages about wanting to wait until everything can be settled. I definitely agree, and actually like the idea of the user Lar who has offered to mediate/decide. There are so many discussions going on in so many pages now, it can almost drive one crazy. Also, basically you just see people vote -- again and again -- along nationalistic thinking. I assume this is really not how we want Wikipedia to keep on going. take care. Taalo 18:11, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

AIV

Thanks, but I allready tried to report it there, I think I did it wrong? Hmm if i didn't I dont think they did anything. Can you check? Or how can I?Qrc2006 01:34, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Oscar Nunez

With all due respect, Mets501. Your comment when closing the WP:RM was strictly unnecessary ("It really doesn't matter: it's just a squigly line"[24]). An administrator is not expected to take sides in that sense and/or using demeaning language towards one of the opinions expressed. I apology in advance if I misinterpreted your words. The proper use of diacritics in an encyclopedia such as Wikipedia is important indeed (systemic bias springs to mind). Aside a couple of border-line comments from Gene Nygaard addressed to the nominator User:DrBat, there were no incidences of uncivility either. If anything, editors should be commended for taking the steps to discuss the matter instead engaging on pointless edit wars (e.g. see Priština). Regards, Asteriontalk 10:38, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks very much, Mets501. I appreciate your work. Best wishes, Asteriontalk 11:04, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

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Revert redirects

Hi. I see that you have reverted all of the misleading reverts made by User: sam.yates. I tried to do this, but couldn't find out how. Could you please explain how to do this, or point me to the relevant help page? Thanks. RolandR 19:15, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Spanish accent marks

Knowing of your vital work on the topic of Spanish-language diacritical marks, I thought that you might be interested in this (the second article). Please make sure to bring this to Metsbot's attention as well, before it does something everyone would regret. Regards, Newyorkbrad 19:22, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Revert

Curious as to why this reversion (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_characters_in_The_Grim_Adventures_of_Billy_and_Mandy&diff=71593572&oldid=71593440) was made? Not a follower of the 1RR I take it? - 81.179.148.71 22:32, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Possible bot work

Nice work on the leading zero's. I wondered if your bot would be able to clean up some more common airport errors. The first type can be seen at Barnstable Municipal Airport. The runway should be in the style XX/XX and not XX-XX. The second I don't have an example for right at hand, but runways should be listed as 10/28 and not 28/10. The lower number should be first. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 01:40, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I've posted there. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 02:03, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Total re-write of the main Physics page is in progess

You might like to join us at Physics/wip where a total re-write of the main Physics page is in progess. At present we're discussing the lead paragraphs for the new version, and how Physics should be defined. I've posted here because you are on the Physics Project participant list. --MichaelMaggs 08:04, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

anti vandal bot/ tawkerbot2

when i noticed it was warning you last night i shut it off. It *should* ignore admin users no matter what actions there taking. Ive now set the list to update admins and made sure your on it, im not quite sure what was hapening but if it happens again drop me a bell and i can shut it off again (have passed this onwards to tawker) Benon 13:43, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

The Time Has Come

I think i'm in the clear now. I'm requesting permission to bring my userpages down from Full Protection to Semi Protection. RaccoonFoxTalkStalk 00:28, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! :) RaccoonFoxTalkStalk 01:27, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

layout problems

Could you please tell me where to find info about how to correct the layout errors on United_States_Capitol#Flags and Egyptomania#Race_and_national_identity? The latter is BTW only evident in Firefox, not IE. In FF, the first two lines don't stay to the left of the picture and the second line is truncated after "or Asia, or within the". Maybe the fastest way for me to start to learn about layout would be to see how someone corrects these errors. Thanks! --Espoo 06:51, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Satmar (Hasidic dynasty) is better than Satmar

Hi Mets: Why did you move the Satmar article as it is part of a series, see Category:Hasidic dynasties? You are re-creating a problem here. The original problem was that originally with "Satmar" alone you run into disambiguation questions as you can see for yourself from the following: The Szatmár article (Szatmar redirects to Szatmár) and the Satu Mare article (see Satu Mare (disambiguation); (and Szatmárnémeti, Szatmarnemeti, Satu-Mare redirect to Satu Mare) (are similar sounding to Satmar as used by Jews) all are spellings used by Eastern Europeans but not used by Jews, and therefore on Wikipedia we long ago found a way to avoid conflicts between non-Jewish editors and Jewish ones by adding "Hasidic dynasties" to make it clear that the article/s were reflecting Jewish (Hasidic) usage. Kindly revert your move back to Satmar (Hasidic dynasty) as soon as possible. Thank you. IZAK 07:24, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

  • Hi again Mets: Thanks for your understanding. 06:35, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

DAB pages

I notice that there seem to be a few da pages in the non-contraversial moves today. I was wondering if there was a policy or guideline on the convention for naming DABs. In almost every case, it seems best to have thedisambig on the base article name? Just curious really.--Crimsone 22:45, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

I was just moving a disambig page when I got your message :-). In general, if there's a clear main use of a word, the article word should be the main use of the word with a disambig notice at the top pointing to word (disambiguation). If there's no clear main use of the word, then the disambiguation page should simply be at word. —Mets501 (talk) 22:48, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
That makes perfect sense. Thankyou :) --Crimsone 23:05, 12 October 2006 (UTC)


Kilkis move

Thanks for the speedy move of the Greek battleship Kilkis article! --Kralizec! (talk) 02:01, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Major League Baseball All-Star Game Records

An article you prodded last week is now listed at AfD. The article's creator removed the prod tags (I had placed a prod2 right under your prod tag.) Just letting you know. | Mr. Darcy talk 02:39, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. But what the heck are you doing here with the game still going? :) | Mr. Darcy talk 02:59, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

AWB/Get a clue

Perhaps you ought to read the talk page of Wikiproject mathematics before claiming I'm the one objecting to Unicodifying mathematics articles. This has been discussed repeatedly, and always with a firm consensus opposing — which you should remember from your own participation. In fact, I tend to use a lot of Unicode in text I originate, and have even advertised my private page with a huge table of mathematics characters. Get a clue before you shoot from the hip. --KSmrqT 04:44, 13 October 2006 (UTC)


Userpage redesign

Hi - Guinnog recommended you! Any chance of a makeover? Bentley Banana 11:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your offer of help. I'm keen on a design in amber and black (tiger colours, essentially). Fonts and other settings can remain default, I think. Do you require a list of facts/interests etc? I'm really a novice on these things - require all possible guidance. Much obliged. Bentley Banana 21:57, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Cheers. Facts - male, British (English), journalist, married, supporter of Hull City AFC, owner of Basset hounds, and with particular wikipedia interest in football, radio, crime and pop music. I use British English, have working knowledge of French, deploy Mozilla Firefox, have politically (UK) Conservative sympathies and drink Guinness. Hope this acts as a start! Bentley Banana 17:02, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Wonderful. Thanks, really obliged! Bentley Banana 03:36, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Ceres

I don't disagree that there wasn't consensus to move. But there was also consensus in the discussion to keep the vote open to Monday October 16th! Nfitz 19:28, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I read that, but in general if it seems that a consensus is reached after 5 days then the debate is closed unless it is very close. In this case, discussion was really slowing down, and it didn't seem like the majority vote was going to be altered in any way with any new votes, nor was anyone going to change their vote, so closing the discussion was also functioning to save the time of the editors arguing. —Mets501 (talk) 19:36, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Though as consensus had been reached on when to close the poll, I think there should have been some discussion of changing this, or just waiting until Monday, given how contentious this has been in the last 2 months or so. Though now you've closed it, re-opening it would probably be a worse idea! Nfitz 19:38, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Line height

I don't know what was done to the global stylesheet but it needs to be fixed - having a hack in one skin file is Very Bad. ed g2stalk 17:55, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

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re: Playstation → Playstation 1

Please follow the instructions at WP:RM to request a possibly controversial page move; I think that some people may object to that move (Playstation → Playstation 1). —Mets501 (talk) 19:21, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

okay, sorry, I didn't know it would be controversial. --gatoatigrado 20:56, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

‎Bama bangs

Can you take a look at this article [[25]] and tell me if this is a legitimate article? Is a hairstyle, especially one that is a current fad, really notable enough for an article? I was going to tag it for deletion, but could not think of a legitimate category. I would appreciate your opinion. ---Charles 03:44, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I will trust your judgment on this one, but this still seems borderline to me... ---Charles 17:44, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Melchoir

Hi there; User:Melchoir is away for a few days, but I am sure he will be delighted by the tag; I wish I had thought of it, as I nominated him.--Anthony.bradbury 14:03, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Metsbot and California

Could metsbot cruise through Category:California adding {{WikiProject California}} to the talk pages? Please let me know. --evrik 18:33, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

I have a minor quibble, not specifically about your bot, but about bots in general. They always seem to add their project tags above the ones that are already there, I suppose because they always add tags to the top of the page, where such things belong. When I add project tags manually, I usually add them below the other ones so as not to attempt to upstage anybody's project, if that makes sense. So here are some of our modest little {{WikiProject Oregon}} pages minding their own business, and along comes this huge {{WikiProject California}} tag! Yeah, being an Oregonian, I have issues with California I need to work out, but besides that, I don't suppose there is any way to get a bot to recognize that there are other project tags already on the page? Katr67 20:02, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
My minor quibble is that I enjoy being able to glance at the "discussion" tab at the top of a page, and if it's red, knowing that I don't need to bother clicking on it. But the bots rampant in WP add banners to every Talk page, and soon there won't be any more red "discussion" tabs. Oh well. I guess they really should have two separate tabs, one for true discussions and one for Projects This Page Belongs To. - Lawrence King 09:52, 22 October 2006 (UTC), who just got this project banner on several of his pages (and who is not from Oregon, no offense!)
I now have some more serious objections, which I have stated at User:MetsBot/Requests#WikiProject California. (I'm not sure if this page, or the other page, is the proper place for MetsBot gripes.) - Lawrence King 05:21, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
  • I thnink there should be a template developed that allows for more than one wikiproject to be listed in the same template. In that way, there is no conflicts at the toip of a page. --evrik 18:08, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Breitenbush River in wikiproject California?

Your bot tagged [26] Breitenbush River for wikiproject California. Is this correct? — EncMstr 22:29, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

It just tagged [27] Crater Lake, another well-inside-Oregon location. — EncMstr 22:38, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Edit regarding Metsbot

Hi, I reverted a Wikiproject California tag on Talk:Crater Lake. Crater Lake is not part of California; it is part of Oregon. Thanks. bibliomaniac15 23:20, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Ditto for Talk:Cougar Mountain, which is in Washington State. Art LaPella 16:54, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Hannibal & St. Joseph Railroad

As much as I would like to think H&SJ made it to California, it never left the state of Missouri (the only possible reason I can think that it would pop into the California Metsbot was that it carried mail EAST from St. Joseph from the Pony Express. If you think that's strong enough criteria, you can put it back. Otherwise, I've deleted it. Americasroof 00:40, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

MetsBot

You might want to check on your bot. It just added a WikiProject California tag to the talk page of Lawrence, Kansas (see this diff [28] ). I reverted it, but thought you could use a heads-up. RedRollerskate 19:10, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

That article was in Category:California Trail. I've removed {{WikiProject California}} from other articles in that category that shouldn't have the template. Mike Dillon 21:59, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Ah, that explains it. RedRollerskate 21:55, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

California's Flora

I think that MetsBot should limit itself to applying the WikiProject California tag to plants that are either endemic to California or endemic to the California Floristic Province. Or there could be a tag that simply says the plant is a member of the California Flora. But tagging plants that have large distributions outside of California, or worse yet, plants that have a large cultural significance outside of California could mislead the casual browser of Wikipedia who strays to a talk page and sees the tag.

Sorry, I don't know how to make mine a subheading instead of heading level tag.

KP Botany 18:22, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Greetings

Thanks for the greetings, I spent a bit of time here, though rather inactively; your welcome is appreciated, even if from a Metropolitans fan. A question re: airports but really about images in general. So many of the airports images, and indeed most any of these types of articles will not have "common" images to take from, I take it that those images found on websites are in questionable waters as far as copyright is concerned, what is the compromise? I would think that otherwise the majority of our images would be ruled out?Internazionale 15:09, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Common.css

Re [29]: Where has this been discussed? Which delete links do you refer to? I would propose to not use display:none gimmiks (see Wikipedia:hiddenStructure for some reasoning why). --Ligulem 18:01, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I've removed the delete link you added on MediaWiki:Linkshere. This is completely unneeded and confusing. I've also reverted your change to Common.css, which is now unneeded as well. --Ligulem 22:48, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Move at Heroes III.

Hi. You were the one who closed down the debate at Heroes of Might and Magic III rather than resubmit it for more votes (what I was expecting to happen). I disagree with this decision, and was wondering if there would be a problem with reopening the debate and resubmitting Heroes III to Requested Moves.

See, this article was at the longer title for most of its life. Occasionally Frecklefoot has moved it to Heroes III (like recently), and myself and at least two other people who have been against such a move. Those two other people who have argued against moving the article, though, simply haven't logged on (at least according to their contributions) since then. There was already a debate above the main one on the talk page where Frecklefoot was basically being outvoted, in case you didn't notice. My point is that I can see why such a debate might be closed due to lack of interest if there was a "status quo" to return to and not enough impetus to make a move (the 60/40 rule and all). The problem is that this status quo was my proposed move- I was trying to reset Frecklefoot's recent change. The page title was in contention for some time, so there basically was no impartial status quo.

The 60/40 rule in this case creates a perverse incentive to not submit a move request to RM and to move-war instead. You have effectively punished me for "doing the right thing" and submitting the request to RM, as I feel that Frecklefoot should have submitted what he knew to be a contentious move to RM first. Suppose that I had uniltarally moved it back, and then FF had been the one to make the request to RM, and that the vote was 1-1 again. Would you have "kept" it at the longer title? That would be every bit as flawed a process, because whoever submits it to RM for actual debate loses. (Edit: For an example of a admin who apparently agrees this can be a problem, see Talk:Arabic numerals#Result- despite 56% in favor of a "keep," since it was only a keep after someone had moved the page and had it contested, he in effect decided 60% was required to "keep" the page, since it was really a move that should have gone to RM.)

Yes, it sucks when practically no one is responding, but when the vote is 1-1, and there is no "neutral" page to simply remain at, I don't think that the request can be closed, and should be relisted for more votes. SnowFire 20:34, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Well... as I stated at the talk page, no, I don't agree. Obviously it's hardly a critical issue, but I for one would prefer the subtitle to be there, as it is on other games. As I pointed out several times at the talk page, Heroes IV and Heroes V don't actually have an official subtitle, so they're already at their complete name. If the debate had decicively closed in favor of "no subtitle," then maybe I might agree, but I still believe that you closed the debate early and we haven't finished figuring out where Heroes III should go yet.
As a style-and-form thing, why didn't you say what you just said on my talk page over at the RM page? It would have added to the debate and we might have gotten more responses, and I could have responded to it before the debate closed. I still disagree with you closing it, at least without more explanation- if you had said AfD style that "I agree with Frecklefoot hahaha we win," that would be better, but if you have an opinion on an issue and it isn't resolved yet, just go ahead and post your thoughts. Somebody else can close the debate.
Anyway. As for consistency and Heroes II, I think this should be taken up over at the CVG Project page or the like for input or the possible creation of guidelines on when subtitles should be used, because there needs to be more input and things are currently inconsistent everywhere. A quick random check shows that both styles are used- Warcraft II (no Tides of Darkness), Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen (subtitle used), and Xenosaga Episode II: Jenseits von Gut und Böse (both subtitles used). SnowFire 01:32, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Reversion

Please see MediaWiki talk:Linkshere for a recent reversion of one of your updates. — xaosflux Talk 01:24, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Knowledge Management

Hi, I've dropped the Wikiproject California tag from the Knowledge management article - I just cannot see any connection to the state, explicit or implicit. Please let me know if there was some logic behind this; I'm assuming it just slipped in. Kuru talk 14:12, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

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Delete link

Here's what I did for the JS. It doesn't create the link, but it does the DHTML portion:

function addDeleteLink() {
    var targetSpan = document.getElementById('specialDeleteTarget');
    var linkSpan = document.getElementById('specialDeleteLink');
    if (targetSpan == null || linkSpan == null) return;

    var targetLink = targetSpan.getElementsByTagName("A")[0];
    if (targetLink == null) return;

    linkSpan.appendChild(document.createTextNode(" Delete: " + targetLink.childNodes[0].data));
}
addOnloadHook(addDeleteLink);

I used it on the structure at User:Mike Dillon/Linkshere. Mike Dillon 18:02, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

This could probably be better generalized using classes instead ids. Something link this:
<span class="specialDeleteLink">'''<span class="specialDeleteTarget">[[:Article to link]]</span>'''<span class="specialDeleteHook"></span></span>
It gets a little trickier in that case since you have to iterate through node lists to check classes, unlike using getElementById, but the DOM part stays the same Mike Dillon 18:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I responded to your reply on my talk page. Mike Dillon 18:50, 22 October 2006 (UTC)


Yoghurt move

I'm not sure moving it to yogurt is a good idea. I know I've been a crusader for that, but interpreting people's votes based on their justifications isn't a common activity - plus, people who cited the MoS incorrectly may have been motivated by other reasons they were not proud to admit, based on the fact that none of them ever changed their votes. The basis of my arguments for the move have been that keeping the peace on Wikipedia is best accomplished by having a truly neutral policy. However, this move, done without apparent consensus, will anger the folks who voted against the move quite a bit. It would have been safer to start the voting over again, notifying people, I think. --Yath 19:10, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Keep in mind that discussions on requested moves are just that: discussions. They are not votes, nor does the side with the most votes always win. Interpreting people's votes and reading their justification is in fact quite a bit more common than you may think. For example, in an AfD discussion, if 6 people vote to keep the article and then someone notices that it's a full copyright violation it will be deleted. Conversely, if 6 people vote to delete the article and the two people at the end come along and say they found references that clearly meet the criteria for inclusion, the article will be kept. I went to read the entire debate with no anticipation whatsoever as to which side I would be swayed towards, and I found the reasons for moving the article much stronger than the reasons for keeping it where it was, so I moved it. —Mets501 (talk)

I commend your decision; I would have done the exact same thing had I had the ability to do so. Score one for the discussion team. -- tariqabjotu 04:33, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Your move has been reverted. It's back at Yoghurt now. --Serge 04:51, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I moved it back to Yogurt, but wouldn't be surprised to see it moved again, and again and again... --Serge 04:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for move protecting Yogurt. However, it has been unprotected and moved to Yoghurt again. I'll try to move revert that again. --Serge 17:37, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Yoghurt Revisited

I would like to say what you did was still a score for the discussion team, but at the same time, I feel there is a part of consensus that needs to be followed here. It was commendable that you discounted a couple contradictory comments that mentioned the MoS – that I certainly agree with – but I'm beginning to think you missed a couple comments, especially because they were located in a different section (I don't think they should have been placed there, but they're okay). I do agree that some of the points couldn't exactly hold a mountain, but at the same time I feel that the strength of a statement can only go so far. Take, for example, the recent move request for Los Angeles. I did not find many of the oppose comments compelling but I most certainly would not have performed the move (not that I had the ability to do so; that's why I opted to participate in the request) because that would have required a great number of comments to be discounted (rather unnecessarily I must say). The comments you discounted on the Yogurt move request were discounted for good reason, in my opinion, as they were essentially based on misinformation. However, given the evidence noted by Guettarda, you would need to discount several more oppose comments to maintain the approximate sixty percent threshold; frankly, there are no more oppose comments, in my opinion, that are based on misinformation and thus no more oppose comments to be discounted. All in all, perhaps you should change your decision to no consensus (moving back to Yoghurt) or relist the move request. Alternatively, you could ask me (or someone else) to do it if you do not want to that yourself. -- tariqabjotu 22:37, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

My bot userpage

Thanks for checking my bot userpage :). I've put a link to the bot approval page on the bot's userpage. You can find all data required by the bot policy following said link. I hope this resolves your concern. Best regards, --Ligulem 21:57, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Pagemovedtext

Hi Mets. I really liked having a deletion link on that message page. Have you removed it altogether or can I change one of my config files to see it? --kingboyk 14:43, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

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"polar coordinates" - your wording change

Beginning a sentence with "due to" rather than "because of" is a sometimes controversial usage. I won't suggest changing it back, but you may get a suggestion to do so someday from the featured article reviewers. :) Newyorkbrad 21:41, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Yogurt/yoghurt redux

" Please go fix all of the double redirects! - that's what i'm doing! Jooler 22:55, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I have been a Wikipedia contributor for 5 years - so please don't talk to me about "get involved with something that you know nothing about" - I know all about the insidious attempts to move that page thank you very much. Jooler 23:00, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Not at all. I was about to weigh in when you blocked him. I think you did the right thing, although I state no opinion on the merits of which spelling the article should be at. But these things need to be done properly. --Guinnog 23:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Abuse

Your block of Jooler is against policy and arbcomm precident. Please unblock him/her immediately and stop your persistent abuse of your admin privileges. Guettarda 23:55, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Your actions are unacceptable. Blocking for warning removal is not permitted. Figure out what is permitted before you use your admin privilege. It isn't unacceptable to misrepresent votes when you close an RM, it isn't acceptable to move-protect a page for no reason except to support your incorrect close (it isn't acceptable to just ignore votes, simply because you disagree with them), it isn't acceptable to threaten a user for removing warnings (let alone the bogus warnings that you were sending based on your page move against consensus) and it is not acceptable for your to block in violation of the blocking policy. So please unblock Jooler.
See Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Block_for_removing_warnings Guettarda 00:22, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

It isn't a personal attack, it's a reflection on your abuse of admin privileges and your general unsuitability for adminship. Your inflexible attitude is a serious problem. Saying "[p]lease do not come to my user talk page with long monologues; I will not change my opinion if you write to me" is unacceptable in a collaborative project. That level of contempt for your fellow editors really isn't something we can afford in admins here. Blocking in violation of policy is bad enough - maybe you didn't know better, but the onus is on you to figure this out before you block. But the real problem is your response to being corrected - when I informed you of your mistake, you refused to budge. If you make a mistake and someone corrects you, the normal thing to do is apologise and correct the mistake. To grudgingly correct your mistake, or even say "go ahead and unblock" reflects poorly on a person, but it's human nature. No one likes to be told they are wrong, but eventually most people learn to accept it. But you did neither. You, in effect said, "nope, I'm not going to be swayed". What sort of reaction is that? It's most definitely not an attitude we can afford in a Wikipedia admin. Today you refuse to budge when your mistakes are pointed out - what are we to look forward to tomorrow? It's not a personal attack - it's identification of a clear liability to the project. Guettarda 01:44, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

"No matter which version I chose, I knew I would be under heavy fire from both sides of the debate." - that's a gem. You chose to ignore a large number of votes in order to get your desired result, and
"and I had made my decision based on the discussion that had already occurred. - no, that is false. If that was the case, why did you ignore 4 opinions and mischaracterise two of them? You explained why you rejected a number of opinions, but you continue to refuse to explain why you simply ignored many of the other opinions.
"I would only change it if everyone in the debate wrote to me on my talk page, which, as you know, is impossible" - in other words, exactly what I said - imperious contempt for your fellow editors.
"If I perform an action that you think is a mistake, that does not mean that everyone thinks that it is a mistake" - under what possible scenario is it not a mistake to ignore four votes and mischaracterise two of them? The only way it could not be a mistake is if you intentionally moved the page against consensus.
"If you make a decision that I disagree with, should you change it or risk being called inflexible?" - straw man argument. If I violated policy and abused admin privileges and someone pointed it out to me, I would obviously undo it immediately; even if I was unsure about it I would undo first, and then verify whether it was correct or not.
"We are technically on the same level in this Wiki: there is really no real power structure here" - good of you to point that out. NO LISTEN TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID and stop treating others with contempt. That said, there are obviously many hundreds of people here who are far more familiar with Wikipedia policy than you are. If you aren't aware of the appropriate policy or guideline, don't use your admin privileges. Don't make threats. Don't treat other editors with contempt. Don't move pages against consensus. Don't block users with whom you are in conflict. Don't move-protect pages to support your illegitimate move. STOP VIOLATING WIKIPEDIA POLICY. Simple enough. Guettarda 12:43, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

My "claims" that you are violating policy? Did you miss all the comments on WP:AN/I? Did you bother to read the links I provided? Guettarda 00:58, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Before we lose either or both of you, Mets, please just admit your errors and apologise, and Guet, please stop chasing the matter. Let it drop, both of you. – Chacor 01:01, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Concur with Chacor. This needs to stop quickly. Incidentally, I've just checked Mets501's admin block log. The total number of users he's blocked in 3 1/2 months since he became an admin in early August - other than for vandalism, bad username, banned user sockpuppets, etc. - can be counted on one hand. He's a dedicated admin doing good work (I think lately he's patrolled the requested moves page and fixed mainpage errors, among other things). Granted, he's not perfect; who is?
I do urge that in the future Mets501 consider consulting with other admins or post to ANI before throwing any potentially controversial blocks. I will refer him to the recent lengthy discussion on whether "users removing warnings" should really be considered a serious problem worthy of blocking (or block-extension) or not. (Addendum: please see here.)
Further, I urge that to avoid controversy in the future, Mets501 should publicly commit to abstain for one year from using his admin privileges in any yogurt-related matters. :) But the idea that any mistakes he made yesterday suggest that he's some sort of dangerous out-of-control sysop or a "clear liability to the project" is preposterous. Newyorkbrad 01:43, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Removal of table background

I think you'll find that horizontal rules and other ugly stuff will now visibly run into tables in Monobook, rather than stopping at their borders as before. I suggest, instead of removing the background entirely,

table { background-color: #F8FCFF; }
.ns-0 * table { background-color: white; }

as is currently done for various other things like border color, etc. up at the top of the stylesheet. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 00:12, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know! I've changed it. —Mets501 (talk) 00:17, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

re:Colour

Hmm... Daniel's problem with seeing my text was his computers settings were a little darker than normal. Can you see if you are able to see them under different settings before I have to change it. :) semper fiMoe 02:42, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, I prefer black text, so I think I'll change the tone of the purple. semper fiMoe 02:52, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
How about now? semper fiMoe 02:58, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
All colors are changed. Thanks :) semper fiMoe 04:18, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Stress

Even if you never thought you'd be on the stress alerts page, that's what it's there for, and we're glad you put yourself on there so we can hopefully relax a bit! Sorry that you're feeling so stressed out, I know you will find a way to relax, but good luck! And if things are really getting to you, just stepping back from Wikipedia for a moment can help. -- Natalya 06:11, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Your message

I appreciate your message. All I really wanted of you was to check policy when you are unsure, and if someone says that you have made a mistake, give them the benefit of the doubt. Thank you for your message, and I hope that your future in Wikipedia is bright and stress-free. Guettarda 13:12, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the barnstar. I apologise for the harshness of what I said and the stress I caused you. A lot of it was unnecessary and excessive. This in the national flower of my home country. Thank you for the way you concluded this unfortunate matter. Guettarda 13:36, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

I was impressed too and have awarded you a Barnstar. Well done, to both of you. --Guinnog 21:44, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Barnstar

Wow, thanks Mets! That's really nice of you. I hope that my words helped a bit. :) -- Natalya 14:28, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hi Mets501, Thanks for your help with effecting the move of the old Pathological skepticism article to the more appropriate Pseudoskepticism location. I just couldn't figure out how to do it. That link was already occupied by a redirect, so my attempt was unsuccesful. It's nice to have a good admin do the job! Much appreciated.

On another note, I see that you offer your help with designing user pages. I'd love to have your help with mine. Just make it look like yours and I can take it from there. Thanks again. -- Fyslee 11:05, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Wow! Thanks for the stylish user page design. It looks great! Now I know where to come for expert help on coding issues....;-) Regards, Fyslee 14:52, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Line-heights causing issues with printable version

This change is no longer necessary, since I reverted my line-height changes to Monobook long ago. But it's messing up the printable version by increasing its line-height from 1.2em to 1.5em: see Mediazilla:7748. So you might want to undo the changes (I won't recommit the line-height fixes until they're working right, promise ;) ). —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 18:40, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Moving pages

Hey, I just wanted to ask you for some help. I requested a move on Mark Calaway to The Undertaker. I requested it on October 24, and it has been five days. The majority is Support 6 to Oppose 1. Now, how do I go about moving the page Since The Undertaker is a re-direct page? If you could please reply on my talk page I would appreciate it. --  Mikedk9109  (talk)  19:29, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for the help. --  Mikedk9109  (talk)  19:50, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

It looks exactly the same. How is it any different? I'd be glad to chagne it but it doesn't look any different. --  Mikedk9109  (talk)  20:15, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, is this better? --  Mikedk9109  (talk)  20:33, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

No problem. --  Mikedk9109  (talk)  20:35, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Peter Burnett page move

Thanks for doing this. I'm still about confused about the logistics, but it all worked out. :)–Outriggr § 04:27, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

MetsBot malfunction ?

  • Mets501,
I don't mean to trouble you, however it seems edits made by User:MetsBot, in which it has been correcting .pdf links, now only displays an internal link to PDF without an external link. I'm not sure weither this is a problem with the bot itself or a problem with the pdf template itself, however I thought you might want to look into it. Thans for your time. MadMax 08:46, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

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Southern California WikiProject

It is interesting that one of the side-effects of MetsBot's tagging of all the California articles with the {{WikiProject California}} template has been an increase in membership in the California WikiProject.

I was wondering if you could do the same thing for the Southern California WikiProject. It'd be a little more complicated than just tagging every article that has a category that has category:California as a parent. The only way that I can see doing it would be to go to Category:California counties, and go to each of the subcategories for the counties in Southern California (which are listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Southern California#Scope).

Question: Is MetsBot intelligent enough to copy over any of the imporatance ratings in any existing California Wikiproject template with ratings (e.g. {{WikiProject California|class=B|importance=High}}) to the {{WikiProject Southern California}} template? BlankVerse 11:36, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Shoot on Sight

Thanks much, I'm glad I'm on the right track. How the heck did you make it dissapear so fast though? A "Speedy" tag doesn't do that...--Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 04:08, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Here's another one: Cartooncartoon. I don't mean to be harrassing you with all this, but you stuck your neck out and answered me :) Seriously, if you can tell me how to Delete this, I'd love to...or does one need a mop-and-bucket to do things like that? If so, would you please nuke it yourself? Thanks for your time, I really appreciate it! --Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 05:03, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
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UserPage

Hey Mets. I think you have a great UserPage. I copied and modified the page to make it my own, I hope you don't mind. I also gave you credit at the bottom of my page. Mkdw 19:30, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it's addictive adding new things. Mkdwtalk 01:24, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

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MetsBot

I didn't follow up because I thought MetsBot was out of the category-tagging business. If it's willing to give it another try, I'll send you some details this weekend. Thanks for thinking of me! Newyorkbrad 01:07, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

yog[h]urt

In yogurt, when you %s/yogurt/yoghurt/g'ed, you whacked the spelling section which was supposed to contain all the variants. Be a little more wary of such global replaces next time, 'kay? :) --moof 09:48, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

re: User:Linas

Look at his talk page: he answered your comments there. He's also started arguing at Template talk:Cite web. Circeus 16:32, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Template:afdx

Hi there. I just thought I'd let you know that your recent edits to {{afdx}} produced an extra "See also" section that isn't properly <noinclude>'ed. I'd fix it myself, but I... uh... can't. Durn page protection. ;-) -- NORTH talk 00:57, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

No problem. -- NORTH talk 01:02, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Requested page moves

The guidelines for tv/radio station article names are posted at Wikipedia:WikiProject Radio Stations#Redirects/disambiguation articles. Thanks, —taestell 02:28, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Oberon move

Thank you for the move, it was sorely needed. However, it seems that the talk page(s) were lost in the process. Is there a way to recover it (them)? I suspect you're better at this than I since I have managed to remain blissfully ignorant of all such details. ww 03:03, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

I got alerted to it by my watchlist. There's been discussion about a recetn change of name from Oberon to Oberon-1. As the latter never existed, there's been some discussion of changing Oberon-1 back to Oberon. That's what I thought had happened. I'll try to figure out what's going on and get back to you. ww 03:13, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
And now I see what happened. And I feel even more strongly that the the Oberon-1 article should be renamed Oberon. Oberon-2 may be sufficiently different as to justify it's own article, but that's another subject. Quite annoying this business, caused by, as nearly as I could follow, someone who figured that if something was named Oberon-2, its predecessor must be named Oberon-1. ww 03:19, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Español

Solo lo utilizo para desconcertar a los demas usuarios. si tu lo prefieres no lo utilizare mas, de hecho este es el ultimo mensaje en español que dejo.

Adiós.... sorry, Bye. KingOfDX 03:47, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

WP:RM

I did so originally. In fact, I followed the exact format specified in WP:RM(5). I would appreciate clarification on your position, and furthermore the implementation of the move requested based on the discussion page that was linked in the RM entry. DJR (T) 21:32, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Please see Talk:Farringdon#move page. DJR (T) 04:51, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Washington Crossing the Delaware (sonnet)

You definitely did the right thing deleting the db-nonsense tag on this article. I'm glad you added the Hofstadter reference too, as he's one of my all-time favorite authors. FYI, I fixed a misspelling of the name of the author of the sonnet, changing a redlink to David Shulman, which should further confirm that this is a legitimate article. Regards, Newyorkbrad 03:55, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Rye House Rockets

Why delete an article I am in the middle of producing ? The Rye House Rockets are a professional sports team in the UK, no different to any football, cricket, rugby etc. I am trying to set up a record of all speedway teams for the rest of the speedway community to add to.

Ther was no need to refer it for "speedy deletion". I am putting the article up again and if you still have an issue with it I suggest it is left for further diuscussion.

Moving Pages

Thanks for your reply. As I said, yes, I know now that I should've started that whole thing differently, but I didn't know that (i.e. that it's possible to move pages) when I started out... and now I'm simply trying to cover up my own mess as best as I (or a helpful administrator) can. From what I see, the best way to go from here would be to move the old page over the newly created one. That, however, would in fact require administrator rights. If you think another step should be taken, I'll be happy to hear it. At any rate: Thanks for your help!! --still-alive-and-kicking Ibn Battuta 19:16, 5 November 2006 (UTC) ... - PS: You're a professional violinist and a high school student? Isn't that a contradiction in terms? Just curious... --Ibn Battuta 20:32, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Moving categories

Thanks for your notice. Can you arrange for WP:CFD and WP:CFDS to be listed as new subsection or or such here? That it presently deals only with pages but apparently does nowhere notify this was the source of my error. Thanks! Dysmorodrepanis 16:51, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

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more category killin', please

Hi there. Thanks for knocking out some of those empty categories on CFDU. Feel like getting the rest? I especially need the instrument categories cleaned out to start a new process on the babel categories for those instruments. Thanks!--Mike Selinker 14:26, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

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Reply to your info about redirects

Thanks for the info you gave me about redirects. I have replied to you on my user talk page: User talk:Voidxor. -Voidxor 21:37, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Blockedtext

Thanks, don't know why I thought that – Gurch 22:28, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

CSS

Hi Mets501,
Just passed by your signature and thought you might be able to help with the following more promptly than say the Village Pump: Are there any CSS classes I could use to alter the borders between rows in (wikicoded) tables, e.g. thicken them or even maybe space each row slightly apart from its neighbors...?  I'm thinking of / hoping for something like:

|- class="something"

Thanks in advance for any help and/or pointers, David Kernow (talk) 01:54, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi David. There are various options that you could take, with differing outcomes...
Certainly a prompt response – thanks!  Can this I guess I was so focused on a class for the |- divider I didn't think of trying out style="border..." options; thanks for the reminder. However, can a single style="border-width:..." apply to a row of cells without applying it to each and every one...?  I experimented with (variations on) the below, but no joy:
One Two Three Four
Five Six Seven Eight
Apologies in advance if I'm doing/missing something straightforward. Meanwhile, I'm sure I've seen classes next to |- being used somewhere in Wikipedia for manipulating rows; maybe there's one that could separate two rows slightly...?  (I scanned Wikipedia:Useful styles and Wikipedia:Catalogue of CSS classes but didn't spot anything...)
Thanks, David (talk) 02:33, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
Interesting, I can't figure out how to apply the border to the whole row...
Worry not for now; I'll locate a CSS whizz and ask him/her to educate us... I'm grateful, though, for your border-width: reminder. I'll let you know what/where I find something. Thanks for taking a look, David (talk) 03:09, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Follow-up

Here's one approach, courtesy AzaToth. Best wishes, David (talk) 02:55, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Multiple-page move

Hi, There seems to be a consensus to call Indigenous Australians "Indigenous Australians", as opposed to "Aboriginal Australians". The corresponding adjective would be "Indigenous Australian". I've tried moving some of the articles using the adjective "Aboriginal" but there seem to be too many of them. A list of articles that need to be moved can be found here. Is there a quick way to setup a poll to move these pages? Is a poll even necessary? (It appears a good majority would support the move.) Any help would be appreciated. Zarbat 20:06, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Re:Repair it, please

MonteChristof wrote on MediaWiki talk:Noarticletext:

Please... I'd like to ask someone (admin preffered) to revert the changes made by Gruch tooday. It causes crash on empty sites - there's no text visible in template and there are some problems with links... MonteChristof 18:44, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for fixing the problem, if there was one. Though I think reverting the unrelated change I made in August was a little excessive. Can you give me more detail on the actual problem? Did you see anything yourself, or were you just responding to User:MonteChristof's request? If you did notice anything, can you tell me which page (or rather non-page) you were looking at, what was wrong with the output, and in particular which links were broken? Thanks – Gurch 01:27, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks...

...for helping! I've lost in wiki-administration so many times, I was even accused of trolling by some short tempered guys :-) --VinceB 17:51, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

TV/radio station moves

Hi! Just want to let you know that I think you've misinterpreted the naming conventions. Per WP:NAME:

All full-power Canadian FM and commercial TV stations have a (-FM or -TV) suffix... most U.S. and many Mexican stations, do not.

A quick search of the FCC TV Query for, say, WAGA shows that the correct call sign is simply "WAGA"; compare to the results for WDIV (which lists the station as "WDIV-TV").

The section you pointed to in your edit summary is meant to give guidelines if there are multiple stations with the same base callsign. It doesn't mean that all TV stations should have titles with the "-TV" suffix, because many do not.

It's a common mistake, but the distinction is important. Happy editing! — stickguy (:^›)— || talk || 22:03, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough. Thanks for the reply. — stickguy (:^›)— || talk || 23:57, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

You're welcome ... and I even did the formatting. :) Newyorkbrad 21:43, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Bot's and the creation of them

Hi Mets :)

We've a need for a bot of our own over at Wikiproject Meteorology (WeatherBot is the working title. lol), we're discussing it, and there seems to be a fair amount of work to give it. I would love to write one, but I have no idea where to start - could you possibly point me in the right direction please? Many thanks, Crimsone 02:45, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Mets :) Your help is very much appreciated Crimsone 03:46, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

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About Talkheader, Last chance and Please stop

This is a response to these sections that you wrote on my talk page. [30], [31] and [32]

  • First: About the talk header, when you browse any featured article or good article you will find that most of their talk pages have the talk header and since the featured articles are the model articles that we try to make all Wikipedia articles like them, I concluded that the talk header must be put in every page. Note the talk header in Einstein's page. I then read the template page about the header and knew that it must be put in some pages only so I stopped adding it to talk pages.
  • Second: About redirects from talk pages to other talk pages, when you click the move button on any page you will see a small box asking you whether to move the talk page or not. This box is by default checked, so, I concluded that all talk pages of redirect pages should be redirected too. You said: Also, redirects from talk pages to other talk pages (except for when they are moved) are generally not needed. but you didn't give the source of this information, so, I considered it your personal opinion not a policy of Wikipedia.
  • Third: About Last chance, you said: You really can't continue to make useless edits as pointed out above. I appreciate your good intentions but they are actually not helping that project. This paragraph is very badly written. You didn't explain what you meant. I didn't understand it except when I was blocked. What do mean by last chance? Last chance of what? I was never blocked before although that I have 2200 edits and another 600 edits (approximately) which I did without signing in because I did them from a public computer. You should have said: What you do violates one of Wikipedia policies and if you don't stop I will block you. In this way I know that there is something wrong.
  • Fourth: About Please stop, another example of a paragraph that is badly written. You said: Please stop editing articles just to add spaces between headings and the equals signs, and spaces below the heading. Examples: [5] [6]. Besides the edits themselves being a waste of time, many of us prefer the raw text formatted the other way: equals signs tight around the headings, and no blank line below the heading. What is your source? Is adding spaces considered against one of Wikipedia policies? Who are those many of us? There are 2.7 million users in Wikipedia. What is the percentage of those many of us of the total users of Wikipedia?

However, I will tell you my source. If you navigated to any talk page you will find in the right upper corner a small plus sign in a box which is used to add new comments (I used it to add this section). If you wrote anything in the subject/headline field and then in the main window and you saved the page. After that, you click the edit this page button you will find that there is a space under the title and a space between the title and the plus signs. It is the Wiki software that uses spaces. So,I concluded that all pages should be like this. Are you going to block the Wiki software? Just choose 20 random articles in Wikipedia, you will find that some of them are written like the way you want it and some aren't.

You said: I plan to revert these edits whenever I see them. Well, you will find hundreds of articles this way. I could have reverted them myself but if I did so I will find another administrator blocking me for removing spaces from articles! So, I will leave them like this but I will not of course repeat this in the future. I don't want to be blocked for such an unimportant reason.

  • Fifth: I though that users are blocked because of deleting parts of articles or changing the information in them without good sources not for adding space. Do you know that once I found one interwiki link that was not working but I didn't remove it because it was in a language that I don't understandI suggest that you observe my edits in the next days to be sure that I am a good user.
  • Sixth: I am a loyal user of Wikipedia. I consider Wikipedia as my son. I could not vandalize it. I am looking for the day that it will reach 30 or 40 million articles. I will say then that I contributed from the beginning. I have accounts in the other Wikimedia projects and also in the Arabic Wikipedia.
  • Seventh: If you find articles like this which I created, you will find that I add about very few lines per edit. This isn't because I want to increase my number of edits but because in Egypt where I live, electricity may go out in any moment (which I know is a rare thing in the USA and Europe), so what I wrote will be lost, so I edit by a rate of a few words per time.
  • Eighth: Although I could have written this in my talk page during blocking but I prefer to answer the messages of other users in their talk pages not mine, so I waited until the block was over and it took me some time to write this long message.

Note: I might be busy in the next few days, so if you left me a message I may not be able to answer it for a few days.

--Meno25 05:30, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Jusepe de Ribera

Thanks for doing the move! Johnbod 17:50, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

THANKYOU! It does my heart good to receive the award. I've been having problems lately with a disgruntled Wikipedian who thought I was trying to purposely leave out Taiwanese Kuoshu boxing history from the page. I was doing research on it and had yet to add it to the article. Thanks again!!! (!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 19:44, 15 November 2006 (UTC))

vandalism-like page move

Hi

Looks like Duja is not online. Could you help him out? See User_talk:Duja#vandalism-like_page_move. Thanks! --Espoo 23:06, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

It happened again. Could you please block all those possible POV page titles by redirects? Thanks! --Espoo 01:09, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

aggressive admin

Hi

Could you please take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kbdank71&diff=88059736&oldid=88058525 This admin has the nerve to first disregard some of the most basic WP principles, then bully me, and then delete my defense against his bullying behavior. He claims that i threatened him, which is not true, and he insists on leaving that lie publicly displayed. Thanks for any help! --Espoo 05:27, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Removal of C:CSD from the Contested template

I understand that the old C:CSD in the hangon template was used for placement in the main CSD cat. It was placing talk pages in the main CSD cat because people didn't understand how to use the hangon tag and placed them in the talk page.

Now, though, some people remove the CSD tag when placing the hangon tag, and now there are a lot of "orphan" articles in the Category: Contested Speedy Deletion Candidates that nobody is looking at (because they're not in the main CSD cat). Is this intended behaviour? ColourBurst 16:26, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Munich air disaster

Hey Mets: Can I have a third opinion from you? Someone moved Munich air disaster to Munich air accident (1958), ignoring the discussion on the talk page, and made a veritable mess of it in the process. Should I just revert the move, untangle the mess and point towards WP:RM, or should I bring this up at WP:RM directly (especially since I was involved in the prior discussion)? Best, trialsanderrors 19:32, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I've reverted the page move and pointed the user towards WP:RM. —Mets501 (talk) 19:39, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, I also shut down the two-item dab page and redirected to Munich air disaster. ~ trialsanderrors 19:43, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

M.I.K.E.

There is some text that does not appear in the editing box when i go to remove it, but it appears when i go on the page. Look past the electronic album stub and you will see. I think someone may have edited the template for it. This is the only Admin i know, so hopefully you can pass it on to someone else who can fix it. Thanks. SuperJ9587 18:36, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Metsbot/test template substitution

Could you please prevent your bot from substituting the templates at Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace? The templates there are examples only and need to show up-to-date versions of the templates. Thanks! -- Renesis (talk) 21:57, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Concering your reversion...

I was changing it to the correct name. There is no evidence that the Manta is named "Phanta Manta". Thus, unless someone has concrete evidence, it should not be named Phanta Manta. 24.193.50.181 04:17, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about that! I've removed the warning. —Mets501 (talk) 04:20, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. But I plan to wait for a little while. And can you leave it as Manta for now?24.193.50.181 04:21, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Of course! No problem :-) —Mets501 (talk) 04:22, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

RE:db-meta

Since {{db}} refers to {{db-reason}} for its reason parameter there is no point in adding it to the db-meta template. (It also caused the formatting to screw up if I gave a reason beginning with "=", though that's probably a minor concern.) --tjstrf talk 19:17, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

OK then, I misunderstood what the purpose was. Never mind then, the format breaking must have been incidental. --tjstrf talk 19:24, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Peruvian Air Force / Air Force of Peru

Hello! I've seen your move from Peruvian Air Force to Air Force of Peru. I don't think that change is correct, almost every army, air force and navy in Wikipedia is named in the format Nationality + Army/Navy/Air Force, see for instance the Navies by country category. So what's the reasoning for this move? Greetings. --Victor12 21:27, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Your Computer Upgrade

Just a thought, get an E6600 over a E6400 as its got more cache, and it preforms loooads better =P

I know its like £60 more, but it'd probably be worth the investment ;)

Reedy Boy 23:20, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi Reedy Boy: thanks for the suggestion. However, the computer has arrived already, and I couldn't be happier with the E6400 :-). I've got it overclocked to about 2.3 GHz, and it's perfectly stable on stock cooling and super-fast. I'm actually not going to be using this chip for too long, which is why I didn't go for the E6600. I'll be upgrading to quad-core when they hit the market and have dropped to a semi-reasonable price. —Mets501 (talk) 03:45, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Ah, fair enough!, makes sense then. Hehe Reedy Boy 12:07, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for showing me that people do care. For a second I had completely lost faith with humanity. Fredil Shadows of Darkness 01:33, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Move: Third Holiest Site in Islam

The reason I posted this during the AfD was because someone moved it during the AfD. Changing it to "expression" is itself a POV from those who are against it as a method to have the article deleted. This is why I think it needs to be renamed back to its original name before the end of yet another AfD. Valley2city 02:49, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Cal Scrabble Club

Didn't like the Cal Scrabble Club? I think it is pretty remarkable because it grew so quickly and really does show a side of UC Berkeley that people don't know. Anyway I guess I will have to defer to your judgment on its relevance.

Holocaust Research Project

I am unclear as to you why are disallowing my new website www.holocaustresearchproject.org?

All I am doing is publishing the URL on the external links, similar to the external links that are currently listed?

What is it that you feel I am doing wrong? - unsigned

We are an encyclopedia, not the yellow pages. Go advertize elsewhere. WAS 4.250 21:28, 19 November 2006 (UTC)


Rachel St. John

Why are we salting Rachel St. John when it keeps getting recreated by the same user? Just block him/her. —Wknight94 (talk) 02:49, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Interesting, I didn't think of that. I'll do that next time. (P.S. It may be time for you to archive your talk page) —Mets501 (talk) 02:51, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes, it's getting there. I was waiting for it to get as huge as the last archive but it's probably close enough now. —Wknight94 (talk) 02:54, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Template:Time

I dislike what is happening. There is no reason for this. And where is this discussion? --Cat out 07:19, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry that the bot made a mistake on this page. There was no discussion, but I found it quite important and obvious to remove it after user comments. The problem is that it provides misleading information if used after a post. If I signed this comment with {{time}}, today it would look like I signed November 20 (which is true), but next week it would look like I signed November 27 (which is obviously wrong). It can be used for other purposes, but should not be used after comments on talk pages. —Mets501 (talk) 11:56, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Ah that I have no problem with. I actually have reviewed your bots activity and realized the main reason for the thing. Tho a lot of people use the time template like I have. Anyways, thanks for the janitor duty but in the future be a bit more careful. :) --Cat out 13:01, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

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Vangelis & In the Heavyskies

Hiya, I have just noticed that Vangelis (Buffyverse) & In the Heavyskies were speedily deleted, the latter by you (WP:AfD/Vangelis & WP:AfD/In the Heavyskies). I can see that at present they are not very notable since they are unlikely to see the light of day until at least 2007, and even then it will remain to be seen if they are covered by some notable sources.

However I put a lot of work into the articles, researching them on the web and writing them, and would be interested in using my work, on a Buffy wiki that states openly it does not need the same levels of notability that Wikipedia does (e.g. http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Buffyverse_Wiki). Would it be possible for the article to be put onto my user space:

User:Paxomen/In the Heavyskies, User:Paxomen/Vangelis (Buffyverse)

I would have saved the content myself for use elsewhere, but I was never informed about the deletions. Please could you help out.

Thanks -- Paxomen 17:25, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

No problem. They're in your userspace where you requested :-) —Mets501 (talk) 19:31, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
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[Statement of gratitude]

[Unique statement of excitement]!

[Your username name, not subst:ed properly], [statement of gratitude] for [your specific vote] in [link to request for adminship], which passed with a final tally of [final tally][percent in parentheses (optional)]. I plan to [statement of intentions regarding admin tools] and [statement acknowledging oppose votes as helpful]. If you [type of desire for help] or want to provide any [type of feedback], feel free to [link to talk page or e-mail]. [Statement of gratitude, again (optional)] [signature of new admin]

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I know I'm the late one, but congrats on your adminship! Every admin helps, especially in relatively less watched areas (such as WP:RM, where I've encountered you many times, but it's great because now you can actually move pages over existing ones!). Keep on partying with your new powers! —Mets501 (talk) 01:39, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. And on that note, the WP:RM backlog has now been cleared. -- tariqabjotu 01:42, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion - Snowland

I put up the original speedy deletion request on Snowland. It's quite clear it doesn't asset significance. CSD A7.

As the {{hangon}} tag describes: "Note that this request is not binding, and the page may still be deleted if it is considered that the page unquestionably meets the speedy deletion criteria, or if the promised explanation is not provided very soon."

I believe a speedy deletion request is still valid. I'm going to change the tag back to speedy, but feel free to revert it if you still feel it should be Afd. RichMac 02:40, 22 November 2006 (UTC)


Please block vandal again: 74.106.128.229

Please block the following anonymous IP again, this time permanently. The anonymous user with the IP 74.106.128.229 continues a campaign of vandalism and nonsense. I noticed you blocked this IP for 31 hours on Nov. 16, and the vandalism continued after the block was lifted. Spylab 16:17, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for extending the block. Spylab 22:43, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Deletion of Swell (band)

I've noticed that the Swell (band) topic has been deleted. This band have been signed to the well-established Beggars Banquet label in the UK and American Recordings labels in the US, and undertaken numerous international tours. They have also received many reviews from notable music magazines and websites. As such this complies with three parts of the 'notability' requirement for entries. If the band are reinstated, I would be willing to expand the band biography to include provable third-party links to albukm reviews etc.Karlcremin 22:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

karl

WP:CHU

If you would email me with the communication you referenced on WP:CHU, I'll be happy to handle the rename. Special:Emailuser/Essjay works. Essjay (Talk) 04:43, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Holocaust Research Team

Hello! Recently the deletion explanation here was that HRT requested it, now it was changed. Do you know why?

--Sergey Romanov 16:47, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

"What was changed?"
Now it says: "20:02, 19 November 2006 Mets501 (Talk | contribs) deleted "User:Holocaust Research Team" (Blatant advertising)"
Earlier it said something like "I talked with this user, he has a right to vanish". These words are no longer there. (Thanks for the sig tip.) --Sergey Romanov 08:35, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

copyedit portal

Hi!

I find it very disturbing and depressing that huge amounts of WP editing time are wasted on unnecessary and clearly amateur discussions of naming and spelling issues. You of course realise that almost all discussions on language use by normal people (i.e. not professional copyeditors or linguists) make fools of almost all participants and that they waste a very large part of editing efforts on WP. I'm getting so fed up with this nonsense that i'd like to ask you what you think about the idea of setting up a copyedit portal or copyedit emergency squad to get some sanity and professionalism into this completely amateur aspect of WP. I've asked a few linguists to join my project, but it would be good to also have members with more traditional approaches to copyedit issues. As you know, almost all modern linguists have a purely scientific approach to language and consider anything OK as long as it's used by more than a few people, and even then they don't label it wrong in anything not communal like a wiki. See Talk:Académie française and Talk:Genealogy#reverts_of_WP:OR.2C_private_.28conspiracy.29_theories.2C_and_other_nonsense for more details... --Espoo 09:42, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

{{secure login}}

Is there any to fix this so that it may work with all skins? Or is position:absolute just too evil a hack? --  Netsnipe  ►  16:13, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: User:Mets501/Sandbox

It seems the text at the bottom of your variation of the csd-bio tag:

Please consider placing {{subst:nn-warn|User:Mets501/Sandbox}} ~~~~ on the User Talk page of the author.

would result in the text:

"A tag has been placed on User:Mets501/Sandbox, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia..."

I doubt this was your intent, so I am bringing it to your attention. Also, I have removed [[:Category:Speedy deletion templates|A7]] from your version of the template, so that it does not appear in the category. —Swpb talk contribs 16:10, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

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Same-sex marriage in the United States by state

I noticed you moved Same-sex marriage legislation in the United States by state to Same-sex marriage in the United States by state without indicating anything on either talk page. Were there any specific reasons? --Joshua4 03:47, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Metsbot

Hello, Mets501. I am just curious about your bot. Does your bot only use for fixing templates, template substitutions? Well, I didn't even check my old messages [[33]],and didn't even notice that your bot was fixing couple template on my old messages for Esperanza Newspaper. I know your bot automatically fixing templates on user's page, and some links. In my opinion, your bot is also used for removed deleted images. What else does your bot do? Daniel5127 <Talk> 06:40, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

MedCabal

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Are you sure you want to move "Data Matrix"?

I noticed that Mets501 moved the "Data Matrix" article to "Datamatrix" on 04-Nov. However I'm not sure if this is the best move because the official name for this barcode symbology, as defined by ISO and AIM, has a space between the words ("Data Matrix").

This new name would certainly be convenient from a search engine perspective (i.e. "Data" + "Matrix" gives dramatically different results than "Data Matrix"), but it is a big step to intentionally mislabel something and shouldn't be taken lightly. As it stands now, I wouldn't have found this article even though I have researched this subject heavily in the past.

Maybe there were other reasons behind this move, but I wanted to raise this point of view.

Mblaughton 22:09, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


Redirect of Wiki Material to other Encyclopias

Hi Mets501...

On Oct 8, 2006, you placed a "redirect" on the Sahaj Marg page.

I refer you to this site (Baghdad Museum): http://www.baghdadmuseum.org/ref/index.php?title=Sahaj_marg

If you click on the first Sahaj Marg, you will see the "re-direct" page and if you click on the 2nd, you will see the "Wiki" article. If you click on the "here", you will get the "history" page. Is this what you had in mind?

On most other "redirect" of articles, the reader does not have access to these pages....

The Toronto post page, http://www.torontopost.biz/Info/?Sahaj_marg is another examble where all the "Edits" and 'redirect" prompt(which takes you to the "redirect" page), are also included (and hot), so it looks like the reader can edit the article from the Toronto Post page, unlike all the other "redirects" for other "articles".....Is that what you had in mind??

Thank you...Just making you aware of these issues... You can reply to me here or on my User page...

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Youtube

Hi, a few days ago I left a message on youtube article discussion page, about the incorrect info. Just checked if it was fixed, and it was indeed, but now you have reverted back to incorrect version. Wanted to let you know. My IP has changed, it was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/85.107.157.16 85.103.192.96 01:37, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about that! I've reverted my revert. —Mets501 (talk) 01:54, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

User with a bot question

An editor in need of a bot to save time on some redirects after a move has asked me if I know how he could go about asking for some assistance. I referred him to Wikipedia:Bot requests but if MetsBot is looking for work and might be helpful you should know he might have a customer. His question can be found User_talk:Newyorkbrad#redirect_bot_help.3F. Newyorkbrad 15:23, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

You know, I just looked at this request in a little more detail (I was on the run this morning). You'd better make sure that this pagemove is uncontroversial and going to stick before you do all those redirects. I never heard before of the second word in the title he's moved the article to! Newyorkbrad 21:54, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
I just think you need to look at this not only as the bot-owner Mets501 but also the pagemove-expert-admin Mets501, as the move doesn't seem to have been discussed anywhere and is to a term 2% of the population at best will have heard of. Also, if the move sticks, it needs to be tidied up (see the redlinked disambiguation line on the page for a starter). Newyorkbrad 22:02, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

proposed new "how to get started writing a bot" page - your opinion?

I think there is confusion on how to go about starting a bot (eg here and here) and there is no wikipage covering this, the main bot page talks only about policy, not avenues for getting started, how to make a bot etc. I have made a suggestion that a howto page be established and, as a frequent editor helping out with bots, I would appreciate your comments. Many Thanks - PocklingtonDan 07:52, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Great idea! I can help out with the pywikipedia section, if you'd like. —Mets501 (talk) 14:21, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
OK, great - thanks for the support. I have pasted your comment into the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Bots, hope this is OK. I will wait to get another comment or two hopefully supporting this and then when I've set the page up I will let you know so we can start filling int he content. Cheers - PocklingtonDan 16:20, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi mate, I have now started this page at Wikipedia:Creating a bot and am frantically adding content to build it up into a full article but there is a huge amount to cover and any input you can help with would be greatly appreciated! Thanks - PocklingtonDan 21:48, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

It actually needs to be speedied for some legal issues. Do I take it ANI? Thanks again, NinaEliza 19:46, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Awesome thank you. Thanks also for your very useful-looking bot. Rock on with your bot self! NinaEliza 20:25, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

RE: Welcoming

Ah, right thanks, I've forgotten on a few. --Simonkoldyk 22:25, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Suggestion

Just wanted to suggest that you may wish to set your bot to mark its edits such as subst'ing templates as minor. This makes them much easier to skim past on the watchlist. (This can be accomplised in preferences by selecting "mark all edits as minor".) Seraphimblade 04:46, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar!

Thanks for the spiffy technology barnstar you awarded me, looks very dashing on my userpage :-) I'll continue working on that article to expand it - PocklingtonDan 09:33, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

your move

You moved the page to Line of succession to the Portuguese throne, which had been deemed as POV title already before, by at least three users: John Kenney (who specifically said it to be POV), Septentrionalis (who had moved the article from that name,and indicated POV concerns), and me. At most, three users ever supported that name you now moved it to. And you can see at Talk:Line of succession to the Portuguese throne that the present name was not in the move proposal, which may be the reason why some did not think necessary to oppose just it specifically. Move requestes must not be assessed by surprises (the name was not in the proposal about which the survey targeted). Please redo the closing, with a proper assessment on basis of what was requested. I say that the name to which you moved the page, is POV, and is supported only by (a) ignorant peopåle, and (b) POV pushers. There is no extant Portuguese throne for anybody to be in succession, and the defunct throne is under serious rivalry, and its possibly leading candidate does not hold legitimate succession rights according to laws which were in force in that monarchy until its abolition - thus, "line of succession" is inherently and dangerously POV as to this former throne. Hope you do not want to promote POV. Marrtel 12:08, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

The neutrality of the present name of the article Line_of_succession_to_the_Portuguese_throne is obviously POV (as said by three established editors), and that's my position to the move. Any vote cannot make POV to be NPOV, nor can any vote allow a move to POV name. If you have arguments why the name were not POV, you are welcome to present them at Talk:Line_of_succession_to_the_Portuguese_throne. Results of a vote is not an argument, particularly such a result that was interpreted misguidedly, and was not in the proposal (the RM proposal was the thing "voters" took position to, not to any addition). Marrtel 05:30, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Question

Not to be rude or anything, what were you doing on my talk page? It said that I had a new message, but when I looked, nothing was different. I checked the history of my talk page, and your username came up, what did you want? BobafettH23 That's ok, I usually don't spend a lot of time here so I don't usually get messages. Take care. BobafettH23 16:13, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

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User talk:24.253.28.60 has confessed to being the IP address of this blocked vandal. He has expressed his intention to create a sockpuppet, so I thought that I should let the blocking admin know.[34] Cheers, -- THL 00:01, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks for keeping his vandalism off of my watchlist. -- THL 01:31, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Requesting Unblock for 67.115.220.195

The reason I have brought this to you attention was to request the unblock of the IP address 67.115.220.195 (due to expire on 08:06, 6 October 2007). Administrators have placed this block on 01:36, 21 October 2006 for repeated vandalism over several days.

The purpose of this is to inform you that the above IP address does not alone belong to Whitney High School, as assumed by the warnings/blocks notices on the talk page, but also to Artesia High School. Both schools are within the same ABC Unified School district, and must somehow share the IP address.

Obviously there has been a terrible misunderstanding of some sort, and we would be grateful for further investigation into this matter. Gryffon 05:00, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

bug in date "correction"

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Why go through people's user space?

Can this be stopped, please? — Sebastian 22:08, 13 December 2006 (UTC) argument has never been substantiated

The argument about the strain on servers keeps coming up, but nobody has ever provided any information how big this alleged strain is. By contrast, we know that editing whole big pages is a strain on the server. It is absurd to spend a dollar to save a dime. Going through every page in every userspace to replace them is creating unnecessary traffic on a big scale! — Sebastian 22:25, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

FYI to User:Mets501, this is under discussion on the ANI noticeboard here. Newyorkbrad 22:44, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I would prefer to keep the discussion about the bot here. All I'm asking for on ANI is that somebody push the button for now. I am always open to rational arguments and have no intention to obstruct this bot altogether. — Sebastian 23:20, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
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Question about MetsBot

Just to let you know, if you were running this in pyWikipediaBot, you could input a large list of sig transclusions to subst and it would clean up each talk page in a single edit, rather than having to loop through on each separate template, potentially requiring a much larger total number of edits. --Cyde Weys 00:20, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Transreal number

You redirected Transreal number to NaN as per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Transreal number, but it appears that someone considered that vandalism and it is now back to how it was. Maybe the page could use some protection? Readro 22:46, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Is there any chance you'd reconsider your decision, and redirect transreal number to James Anderson (computer scientist)? After I mentioned the idea in the AFD, I noticed a number of people changed their vote to endorse that idea. My original argument was something along the lines of transreals aren't NaN (and not wheels, and not hyperreals, and whatnot), and that it might be better to merge the articles on transreals and James Anderson. That way someone looking for transreals could get the references for transreals and the discussion around them. Thanks, Lunch 23:32, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Okey dokey. Thanks. Lunch 00:13, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Transreal numbers

In connection with the transreal numbers AfD, I found the whole concept to be reminiscent of the surreal numbers concept introduced by John Conway, which was the subject of a lecture I attended at HCSSiM. The whole thing strikes me as more a difference of nomenclature for dealing with infinites and infinitesimals more than anything else. I guess I'll more of your thoughts on this when you're asked to give your close reasoning when this one inevitably winds up at DRV. Regards, Newyorkbrad 23:07, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism pages

Why did you restore User:Fredil Yupigo/VaNdAlIzM!?? Need I point out that it meets the speedy deletion criterion CSD G3, pages that are pure vandalism? Also, are you aware that you just restored vicious personal attacks, such as "Fred likes Teletubbies. He also masturbates while thinking about his mother."? Vandalism subpages are a terrible idea, as they create all sorts of problems and need to be patrolled regularly. Don't you think that a page encouraging vandalism might be a bad idea? Should we be at all surprised when clearly inappropriate attacks show up on pages that seem to encourage such? I urge you to reverse your actions. We are writing an encyclopedia here, and due to the problems that vandalism subpages cause, we should not allow them to exist, even if their creators want them. --Cyde Weys 14:28, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Google earth

If concensus is for making the chage proposed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports/Infobox#Google earth, would you bot be able to do the update? Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 14:00, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah!

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Improper name

I hadn't realized that my name violated Wiki policy. I'll take a few days to think to consider my choice, then submit the change request. - Boombot 05:39, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting the vandalism of my user talk page by Rampelstinskin (talk · contribs). JRSpriggs 06:16, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

12/10/06 changes

Your edit to my user page here I know you were "helping" wikipedia by editing my userpage but you could've asked me before you did that. Is it a L-A-W about including links on one's userpage? If it isn't that please don't bother mine.--Chikinpotato11 21:24, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

well, you might have forgot it or something...or something. cy'uh

Good work

Hi, Mets501. I noticed that you created the page Wikipedia:Added or removed characters which the What do the colored numbers mean? link point to in the watchlist. This is a good idea as it is better than linking to the Village pump, so, good work. By the way, I congratulate you on your new computer.

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DX10 operating system move

Hi Mets,

I'm leaving a note here just in case you didn't notice the message at the top of my talk page. I replied there. —Gennaro Prota•Talk 09:12, 27 December 2006 (UTC)


Close Move poll (Oral contraceptive -> combined oral contraceptive pill)

Hi, Mets501. I'm writing in regards to the fact that you closed the above-mentioned Move poll. When I proposed the move, another user (Lyrl) went ahead and made the move only a day and a half after I officially proposed it. Of course I am in support of my own proposal, but I think that that person's action was a bit hasty, especially since at the time it was two days before Christmas and many people are busy. I opted at that point to leave the change intact, with a note stating that the debate was still open, since I didn't think it should have been done so hastily. Then you closed the move poll, so now there is no official place for people to voice their opinions. My questions: Why did you close the poll? What can we do to make sure everyone has time and a place to be heard? Thank you. Joie de Vivre 18:10, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Mets501, thank you for approving me to use Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser and IRCMonitor. I look forward to using this tool in the near future. Thanks again for your kindness. With regards, AnupamTalk 00:05, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Apostolos Nikolaidis

On what grounds did you decide that the singer is more famous than the athlete? Almost everybody in Greece knows the athlete but few of them know the singer. It should really be the other way round. --   Avg    11:50, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Not being Greek myself, I was relying on internet searches to determine which one is more well-known. From the searches, it appeared as if the singer is the most well known, then comes the stadium names after the athlete, and then the athlete. If I'm wrong, I'll more than gladly place a disambiguation page at Apostolos Nikolaidis leading to both the singer and the athlete. —Mets501 (talk) 14:07, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
That's a good idea. I'd go for disambig as well (singer, athlete, stadium). The reason most people know the athlete is indeed because of the stadium after his name. --   Avg    16:51, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

signature

I did see your comment, and I read the rationale about why not to use them. I left it because the concerns mentioned don't seem to apply to my case. It's a standard image used on multiple templates and pages, so new image upload is not relevant. The image is very small and doesn't reduce searchability, actually I think it adds to searchability because my signature is easier to pick out. Not potentially distracting, again because it's so small and simple. The scale to text would only be relevant in extreme cases, because the image is already very small (I could make it even smaller if that is a concern). Clutter up file links, maybe; but so do templates that use the image. Drain on server, not really; my image is half of one kilobyte when on the page. Once the image is loaded once, it is stored in the cache, not downloaded multiple times.

I think some of the reasoning there is flawed, and if you want to push the issue I'll get involved in the policy page. Cuñado - Talk 08:34, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Please refrain from changing my userpage.

Greetings; I am User:Seth Ilys, now editing under the name User:Sethant; I recently turned my old userpage into a redirect at my new username, but noticed that you reverted this edit of mine. I have restored it, and would appreciate it if you would a) not edit another user's userpage without permission, and b) refrain from editing User:Seth Ilys or User:Sethant in the future. If there is some policy that you believe I have violated, I'd politely request that you cite that policy to me at User talk:Sethant before taking any further action. Thank you. - Sethant 03:31, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

And to confirm that this is, in fact, me, the same person. - Seth Ilys 03:35, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you Image:WikiThanks.png

Thanks for substituting templates for UBX's of mine. I'm kinda new to userfying, but you really helped me out. Thanks again! --WillMak050389 17:18, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Flemish

Hey, there.

You closed the poll on Flemish with the summary "The result of the debate was determined by Peter Isotalo to be move." Does this mean that merging the edit histories isn't relevant in this case? Should I just make a cut'n'paste move of the current content to Flemish (terminology)?

Peter Isotalo 12:34, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Sorry Mets501, I do not see where your statement "determined by Peter Isotalo to be move" comes from. He put the latest comment in the discussion section and his position has been clear (1. undiscussed unilateral modification followed with edit-war, 2. unilateral move when the move was obviously most controversial, 3. multiple tagging unduly discrediting the article and repeated WP:PA against named and unnamed but known opposition, 4. WP:RfC, 5. another WP:RfC, 6. immediate support vote on a proper proposal by Anþony to move) but I do not see where PeterIsotalo determined the outcome of 6. This proposal had 3 supports (including the proposer's) against 3 opposes and then one more support. At 4 against 3, I would assume the proposal for a change would be denied as being undecided [in fact, it seems logical to assume that LucVerhelst, the initiator of modifying the much earlier disambiguation page to an article style, would probably oppose if he would decide to end his Wikibreak]. Perhaps there is a misunderstanding, as I see that the move (which you performed yourself for other requests) has not (yet) been executed though the request has been put into the backlog. May I suggest going over the whole (lengthy) Talk:Flemish before actually committing? Kind regards. — SomeHuman 31 Dec 2006 14:16 (UTC)

Thanks for your very kind concern expressed on my talk page. Keep up the good work. — SomeHuman 31 Dec 2006 15:13 (UTC)

My Signature

Sorry, I didn't notice that. Thanks brother. Codu (t)(c) •  16:47, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Sadler@d50.org

I took the liberty of unblocking User:Sadler@d50.org. The account was created early enough that we allowed the use of email addresses in user names. It's only more recently that this became inappropriate. --Yamla 00:38, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

WP:BAG

Welcome to WP:BAG [35] please do not approve your own bots. — xaosflux Talk 06:51, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi. Congratulations on your accession to BAG too. Looks like your inaugural approval has a little problem, though. Cheers, Redux 17:02, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

DarknessBot (Request)

done. D•a•r•k•nes•s•L•o•r•di•a•n•••CCD••• 20:10, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Templates for deletion

Sure. The templates to be untranscluded are Template:20 Largest Airlines by Fleet Size as of December 20, 2006, and Template:Month disambig. The noms are found on the main TfD page under the December 20th and 18th subsectyions, respectively. You can close the noms if you want, or let me do it once the templates are orphaned, your call. Either way, thanks a lot for the help. Best Reagrds, RyanGerbil10(Упражнение В!) 01:54, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Excellent, thanks! RyanGerbil10(Упражнение В!) 02:17, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Page move request Ohio State University -> The Ohio State University

Good afternoon, after a week of discussion on the talk page, there is a consensus that the page should be moved. No opposing comments were submitted. Thank you. --Analogue Kid 17:36, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Category:Unassessed-importance Architecture articles

Just the first results page with items under the number headings - "1" through "9". And then, only the items which contain the "xxxx architecture" text, for example, Category talk:1230s architecture, Category talk:3rd century BC architecture or Talk: 1984 architecture. etc. etc. Thanks for your help & Happy New Year! --dogears (talk) 19:07, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Getting to it now. —Mets501 (talk) 21:33, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
That was fast! Thanks. I also noticed that the {{architecture}} tag can be completely removed from all Image talk: pages, in any and all of the importance categories (FA, A, GA, B, Stub, unassessed and NA) Refer to: Category:Architecture articles by importance. Thanks again. —Dogears 23:46, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure about that one. That would require deleting the page (becuase they'd be empty) and it's just not that bad if the tag is there with class=NA. —Mets501 (talk) 00:08, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Ok, great. Go for it, please, to replace the tag in any Image talk: or Category talk: pages – that already have the {{architecture}} tag (appearing in any of the Category:Architecture articles by importance) – with a "double NA" tag. (importance=NA|class=NA) Thank you —dogears (talk) 00:46, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Many thanks for a task well done! --19:38, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Common.css

Hi, i'm looking the sortable wikitable.css , I saw that you had edits up that css skin, and was wondering if you could help me find it. Just H 05:12, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

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I understand that you simply responded to Analogue Kid's request for the move, but the issue was not nearly resolved and the failure to get discussion in the week between Christmas and New Years is unsurprising. The fact that it had been discussed several times before and there was no consensus would lead me to think it should stay. What do I do to open a discussion to return it to its long-time name? Rkevins82 18:06, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Bot question

Would it be permissible to try and tweak the delay in AWB (perhaps to nine seconds) to try and bring the edit count up to six edits per minute? I currently have it set at ten seconds and it hovers around four edits per minute, reaching a max of five extremely rarely. Kyra~(talk) 03:04, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Typically, edit rate of 6 edits/minute is for bots only. MaxSem 10:42, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Yes, he's talking about his bot, VixDaemon. (See the section heading :-)) —Mets501 (talk) 11:50, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Talhheader

Hi, Mets. Do you remember our previous discussion concerning the {{talkheader}} template here? Well, guess what? It took me a lot of work but I did it. I browsed back through my contributions and tracked those pages and tagged them with {{speedy}} template and they were deleted. They were about 600 edits which means that I have 1200 deleted edits (the old 600 and new 600 which are tagging). Now, I think that I corrected my mistake. I really didn't intend to do any harm. I became very familiar with Wikipedia policies. I started to contribute (nominating and voting) in Afds, Mfd, etc. I even participated in creation of the newly formed WikiProject Egypt in addition to participating in WikiProject Physics. I now fight vandalism using VandalProof and sometimes clean up articles using AWB. So, I guess that I am a better user now. However, I just wanted to let you know that the pages were deleted. Cheers.

--Meno25 11:54, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Dotnetwikibot

Hi - I'll be happy to send you some code - the main pile of code for MartinBotII is a mess - I'm porting it off into seperate sub projects now (all the tasks were in one file, then I realised how bad it really was). I've got the peer review task in a seperate project (and it works), so I'll tidy it up and send it you. If I have one issue with the framework - it's the number of page loads it makes - it logs in before every page fetch, and uses special:Export a lot, which leaves it very prone to Wikipedia errors (502 bad gateway is a frequent one now), so I've started to make my own framework just a class right now for the simpler stuff (page loading, saving, getting categories and finding the creator of a page), which uses Httprequests with shared cookies, so you don't need to log in every time (and uses query api to get page data, rather than special:Export). Anyway, you'll find out what I mean if you try to use it a lot :). I'll send you an email when I upload it to a server. Thanks, Martinp23 23:45, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

OK - glad to help :) I've just sent the email right now. Martinp23 00:15, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

PNG crusade bot approval

Thanks for approving this bot, and thanks again for your support of it! ---Remember the dot 02:35, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

IRCMonitor

Hi, Mets. Could you check latest version of IRCM for reverts. I experience constant blanking, and I need to know if this bug is related to IRCM, or there is a trouble with my IE. Thanks. MaxSem 10:42, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

How can I...

How can I create a "bot" account. Do I need to ask an administrator? Thanks Crazy Canadian 16:56, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok, thanks Crazy Canadian 17:01, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for trying to help me. I'll propose a new bot hopefully in a few weeks, see if I am worthy then. Thanks for letting me try though. Crazy Canadian 0:31, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh, even if those are from a few months ago, I still did have problems in the past. But I am hoping though a few more weeks and the bot can be reproposed. Crazy Canadian 0:31, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Vandal warnings

Thanks for the help on doing vandal warnings. I'm still getting the hang of this :) Dragomiloff 00:05, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Regarding Cydebot

I'd just like to let you know that the response I gave here was false (and it's been gnawing on my conscience ever since). The truth was that Cydebot was very insecure, with some possible remote code exploits, so I didn't want to open source the code for that reason. Of course, security through obscurity isn't a good solution, so I'm going through a security audit right now and hopefully once everything clears it will be suitable to share. --Cyde Weys 19:16, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

L.J.Skinner

Please ask your bot not to mess with my userpage. L.J.SkinnerWOT?|CONTRIBS 04:58, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

I was joking dude! Sorry, I'm aware my sense of humour isn't the best! L.J.SkinnerWOT?|CONTRIBS 13:02, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Fully protected userbox question

I have stumbled upon a fully protected userbox that has no more incoming transclusions, and therefore would qualify for a G6 speedy deletion. However, I cannot add the {{db-g6}} tag, nor can I follow the procedures for deleting it under the WP:TfD instructions. Any advice on this matter would be appreciated. And keep up the good work with MetsBot. Have a grand day. Kyra~(talk) 06:25, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

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I disagree that there was a clear consensus to close the proposed move. The only people who voted were the only three people who have made an edit to the article. It should have been relisted and not closed. Milchama 12:05, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

cosec

I assume you believe that this edit was vandalism because you used rollback to revert it. Just for your information, "cosec" exists as a variant widely used in the UK, so the edit was probably in good faith; if you Google for "cosec x" you'll see a lot of British web sites. But obviously you were right to revert, as \cosec doesn't seem to be supported by the software. Regards, Sześćsetsześćdziesiątsześć 21:27, 9 January 2007 (UTC) P.S. Actually the IP address is in India. Probably the Commonwealth countries follow British usage. Interesting. Sześćsetsześćdziesiątsześć 21:30, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Re my username, it's actually Polish for 666, but it's just for fun and certainly isn't meant to represent anything creepy. Actually it's a second account because I intend to use it largely for recent changes patrolling, and I don't want to get stalked on my other account if some vandal gets mad at me for reverting. But my "main" account has a pretty low edit count, so I'm probably not someone you'll have come across -- sorry I can't say which it is. Sześćsetsześćdziesiątsześć 21:44, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

User Page Revision Error (User Box Migration)

You added a user box to my page that says "This user is a high school student". I am 38years old, and not a high school student. I realize you were trying to do something beneficial, but perhaps you should put proposed edits on a user's talk page instead of editing their user page. Jerry lavoie 04:55, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Jerry. My bot actually did not add any userboxes to your page, it simply bypassed a userbox redirect. Your userpage already had a {{user hs}} userbox. —Mets501 (talk) 12:03, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
I see what you mean. Thanks. Jerry lavoie 16:27, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Good job!

...in redesigning Image:Stop hand.svg. I really like the new version. Keep up the good work! If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 04:40, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Stop icon on MediaWiki:Blockedtext

I disagree with your revert of the icon at MediaWiki:Blockedtext. A better looking icon is no less to-the-point, and just because we want to be blunt, we don't need to look like our graphics were created in the 80s. I don't see how an updated style means it looks "happier." Secondly, what is wrong with discussing it? -- Renesis (talk) 18:01, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't get it

this edit of your bot: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3APv7721&diff=99507694&oldid=88200655 While I perfectly understand the migration of UB, I didn't understand of the addition of Ragnarok online. --Vlad|-> 18:16, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer explaining the issue... and for squashing the bug! :D Keep up the good work and have a nice weekend (what it's left of it! :D) --Vlad|-> 13:07, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

A4Bot

Dear Mets501, You are not right about User:A4bot. Here you wtore that the username A4Bot is inappropriate, but it is not true. Here this bot was approved for operations. As you can see the name A4bot was quite acceptible for my bot. Please don't disturb me with incorrect remarks ever more. Thank you for understanding, regards --A4 13:00, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

MetsBot: Erroneous userbox change

Your bot recently edited my userpage in order to migrate a certain userbox as per Userbox Migration. However, it replaced the userbox in question with a completely different and irrelevant userbox: instead of Template:user its (which deals with the homophones its/it's), I now had User:Scepia:iTS (iTunes store). I assume the problem lies in your bot's case insensitivity, despite Wikipedia's page titles being case-sensitive.

I would appreciate if you could correct this. Thank you, Laogeodritt [ Talk | Contribs ] 16:07, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

NNDB

Chronic spamming certainly wsa a reason for speedy deletion at one point. If this has been changed, all the poor for Wikipedia in general. DreamGuy 16:57, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, spamming is a criteria for speedy deletion. But deleting a template which has been around for months and is used in hundreds of articles being deleted without discussion and leaving redlinks everywhere is abuse of that criteria. —Mets501 (talk) 16:59, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Used in hundreds of articles only goes to prove the point. But then it takes a long line of dedicated people jumping through hoops to undo every single dedicated spammer. Spam used to be limited to the External links sections, now it's in templates and all over the body of all sorts of articles. Too bad nobody wants to do anything about it. This site will be completely useless from red tape strangulation within a year or two at this rate. DreamGuy 17:09, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Pi Gamma Mu

I need your help (again). I have difficulty in closing the gaps for the contact information for the Pi Gamma Mu honor society. If you go to the External Links section, this is how it looks:


International headquarters may be contacted for more information:

PI GAMMA MU International Honor Society

1001 Millington St.

Winfield, Kansas 67156

Telephone: (620) 221-3128; Fax: (620) 221-7124; Email: pgm@sckans.edu


Could you reformat to look exactly this way:

International headquarters may be contacted for more information:

PI GAMMA MU International Honor Society 1001 Millington St.

Winfield, Kansas 67156

Telephone: (620) 221-3128

Fax: (620) 221-7124

Email: pgm@sckans.edu


Many, many thanks for your help.

Profdrmendoza 18:24, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: CSD

Sorry; you're right that I should have been more specific in my speedy reason. I had just created the template and moved it as I found its naming was out of whack, and thus the redirect was used nowhere and was completely useless. Thanks for the note, I've gone back and added a more specific reason. Kellen T 22:35, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Pi Gamma Mu

I need your help (again). Could you kindly correct the formatting of the address of our honor society, as shown in the External Links section, so that there are no spaces in between the lines. The way it shows up right now requires formatting that we are unfamiliar with:

PI GAMMA MU International Honor Society

1001 Millington St.

Winfield, Kansas 67156

Telephone: (620) 221-3128;

Fax: (620) 221-7124;

Email: pgm@sckans.edu


Please delete spaces in between but keep the above on separate lines as shown. Many thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Profdrmendoza (talkcontribs) 23:26, 13 January 2007 (UTC).

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Special:Wanted pages

I'm not sure if you turned this off or not... you're in the history of the page...

Do you know what's going on here? I know that there seemed to be a problem with templates making the numbers wrong. Seems to me the simple solution is to only incude links from article space - even if the link is from a template in article space it probably reflects real need for the article, rather than project bloating figures through templates in talk-space (which aren't so regulated).Garrie 23:31, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

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ATSlog page deleted :(((((

Hello.


I am an author of the ATSLog software. ATSLog is open source non-commercial (GNU) software for the PBX calls logging. I am sure that it is interesting for the *NIX community because there are no free analog of such tool. To tell about atslog i created page on the Wiki. But today i found that you delete this page. Also, deletion comment is very strange "(Blatant advertising)". I think that this is not blatant adverting. My arguments are:

1. There are many articles like my, e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterisk_PBX . I used them as template for my page. I see no reason why such pages still exists and my page - not.

2. This page has no any adverting information - only feature description and web site location.

3. This tool is 100% free (GPL) free-time project. I have no even any banners or donations on my site. I did this software as my hobbie. And i know that many users use this tool. And i don`t know any other freeware solutions for this task.I hosted on a free developers portal berlios.de.


Thats very strange for me that this page was deleted, even without detail explanation of the reasons. I can change web page to meet wikipedia standarts, but i don`t know what i need to do. I`ll be very glad if you could explain me deletion reasons and steps to recreate article. My email is samm@os2.kiev.ua.

With best regards, Alex Samorukov

P.S. Sorry for my English, thats not my native language. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wikisamm (talk • contribs) 14:05, 17 January 2007 (UTC).

Wikisamm 14:27, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Userpage design - a request

Hi Mets! Haven't seen you around my watchlist for a while, but I've seen your bot :p

I have a bit of a problem with a couple of pages in my userspace and I was hoping that you might be able to help me with them - I'm many things, but I'm not a good coder! I'm reasonably partial to the layout of my main userpage, though it's flaws are obvious. The major thing though is that the whole thing collapses into a bit of a mess at lower page widths. The same is equally true of my userbox archive page - at lower page widths, the wiki tables collapse and the text in them becomes unreadable. I'd be happy to accept a full re-design if you feel like it - I'd be very greatful. However, if you could just help me out with the width issues I would appreciate it equally. No problems if you don't have the time or inclination of course. Kind regards, Crimsone 05:01, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

User:A4bot and ru-sib interwiki links

Hi, could you please give your input to a question I posed at WP:ANI#War of the Bots, regarding A4bot and links to the "Siberian" wiki? Thanks, Fut.Perf. 23:13, 18 January 2007 (UTC)


Can your Bot

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:DoubleRedirects&limit=500&offset=500

go through these ones :) --Parker007 17:08, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Polar coordinates

I'm indifferent between "formulas" and "formulae"; the general usage trend is toward English forms of plurals, but I see that formula lists the Latin plural first. Maybe Wikiproject:Mathematics had a guideline on this; if they do, you can follow it; if not, as the principal author, make your choice.

E-mail me if you need help putting your hands on the American Mathematical Monthly article or any other references. Regards, Newyorkbrad 22:43, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Not sure if it's worth it given the FAC comments, but a quick Google search on "robotics 'polar coordinates'" does turn up some hits (not counting the obvious WP forks) if you want to take a look at them. Newyorkbrad 00:33, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Image:Paranormallogo1.png

Just wanted to understand your rationale in deleting this image, especially considering the relevant discussion. --InShaneee 03:53, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

No worries. :) I figured that either you had seen the earlier listing, or I was missing something; either way, no big deal. --InShaneee 06:18, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Argan bargain

I see that you removed the speedy tag from this page, so I'll ask you reconsider. I added a link to argan on the page and it seems to me that, given what argan means, the definition is suspect. It's an African plant and therefore the explanation of the source of the phrase makes very little sense. It's your call, but I think the whole thing is an invention. Paul 03:59, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Generally "suspected hoax" calls for an AfD not a speedy, because in the past a few things someone suspected as a hoax have turned out to be genuine. This one appears to be pretty dubious, though, and the fact that the user who contributed the article has this as his or her only contribution to Wikipedia is never a good sign. To the extent there is any truth to the article's assertion that "argan bargain" is used in comedy shows, it may be a variant of the British "argie-bargie" meaning a fight or argument, a term probably best known to Americans as the title of the Argybargy album by Squeeze. Newyorkbrad 19:15, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
    • yes, it could just be a mis-hearing of "argle-bargle" - and it still doesn't belong here. Paul 19:51, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

68.163.44.246

Just to let you know, I am pretty sure the person that is currently tagging radio stations for speedy deletion, is the same person I was dealing with earlier under IP 68.163.27.43. I have many of the stations on watch and will keep an eye on them. Thanks for your help :o)

Rock on....SVRTVDude 18:08, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Heya....I didn't mean to give a Test3....normally I go with 2:) I wanted to try VandalProof, but I don't have enough edits yet....after today I should :o)
Rock on....SVRTVDude 18:16, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
I hadn't been paying attention to my mainspace edits:) I just reapplied...hopefully that will help, so I can help out when another "vandalism wave" comes through.
Rock on....SVRTVDude 19:00, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Newyorkbrad's RfA

Thank you for your support on my RfA, which closed favorably this morning, as well as for your extremely kind comments accompanying your !vote. I appreciate the confidence the community has placed in me and am looking forward to my new responsibilities. Please let me know if ever you have any comments or suggestions, especially as I am learning how to use the tools. You know how grateful I am for some of the help you've provided over the past few months. Best regards, Newyorkbrad 19:43, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Userbox Migration

I thank you for fixing some userboxes on user pages, but I do ask that you be careful as to what you change them to - the Mac OS X userbox I had on my page does not equate to card games, last time I checked. --Souperman 20:30, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

MediaWiki

Good evening; I am currently operating my personal Wiki and, in an attempt to install a few things including Oversight, have discovered that I can't edit LocalSettings.php; do you have any suggestions? Regards, Anthony cfc 23:54, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Still unsure...

Right so I want to make myself a siteadmin, developer and steward. I have the text:

INSERT INTO user_groups (ug_user, ug_group) VALUES ('AGK', 'siteadmin'); INSERT INTO user_groups (ug_user, ug_group) VALUES ('1', 'developer'); INSERT INTO user_groups (ug_user, ug_group) VALUES ('1', 'steward');

as a notepad file; i'm using filezilla and uploading to shmm.wiki-site.org but it keeps timing out waiting for the welcome message. any suggestions? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Anthony cfc (talkcontribs) 00:18, 22 January 2007 (UTC).

Deleted Article: AGHOST (acronym)

Hello Mets501, I see you deleted the article AGHOST. I actually disagree with this assumption and would like you to reconsider. What portion exactly did you consider advertising? I'm really curious, even for my own knowledge. That's actually not at all what I intended when I wrote the article. It was my first article, so any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks. Obsid 05:53, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Convergence threading

Hello: My name is Ayla Anderson, a post grad student studying terrorism. My work involves collecting and researching methods used in the business world and determining their effectiveness in counterterrorism. Business methods such as process flow, environmental mapping, anticipatory thinking, scenario and also convergence. It is my recent entry to Wikipedia titled Convergence threading that was, prior to completion, deleted. I was wondering two things: 1. the content posted, is it available so you can email it to me?; 2. in explaining what CT is, I felt compelled to note the originating author or company responsible for its creation.

I understand that at first view it would appear to be a blatant advertisement; however this was not my intention whatsoever. Rather I had yet to finish the entry and needed to run out for a meeting at school. When I came back to work on it, it was gone.

I would like to complete the working entry in near totality and forward it to you prior to entering it. I will of course rewrite it to ensure it doesn’t appear to be an ad, instead a compellation of tools and techniques used in developing counterterrorist strategies. Please email the contents of the upload (if possible) to me at cielnet@netzero,com. I failed to save the draft I had and was actually working live, which was my fault and misstep. Such a rather stupid act will not be repeated.

We believe (my team) that creating such a database of terminology of techniques and tools is very useful to other people studying terrorism as well as the government agencies focused on counter and anti terrorism. G2 is one of many to be noted as originators. I hope you will change your mind and let me try again to do a better job.

Sincerely,

Ms. Ayla Anderson

0.999...

Hello,

I am wondering why my proof keeps getting deleted on the article about .999.... You say it is repetitive and does not belong. Could you please tell me how this is so? Could you post your answer here? Thank you.

Your proof was very similar to the one at 0.999...#Algebraic proof. It's a good proof, but it's redundant for the article. —Mets501 (talk) 03:21, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I do not see how the two are alike, mine uses the fact that two equal numbers with the same equation applied to them have the same result. His uses one particular equation to show .999...=1 The only similarity I see is the variables.

Fundamentally, your proof is very similar, although it is executed differently. The main problem with your proof, however, is that it pre-assumes that 0.999... =1 to prove that 0.999... =1, which is circular reasoning. —Mets501 (talk) 03:50, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

However if I had assumed that 3=1 then it would have come out with different answers. In my proof I did not have to state that only use the to numbers.

That logic is flawed; I will give an example. Suppose I'm proving that 1+1=2:
Assume 1+1=2 \,
\therefore 2=2 \, because 1+1=2 \,
Can you see now why the logic is flawed? Sure, if I had assumed 1+1=3 I would have gotten a different answer, but the above does not constitute a good proof. —Mets501 (talk) 03:56, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

If I had not pre-assumed anything just chosen different numbers how would it be flawed? I see your point, but it stating .999 and 1 given the same equation produce the same thing I do not need to assume anything.

Why don't you try asking your question at Talk:0.999...? I'm sorry, but I'm having trouble explaining it further :-/. Sorry. —Mets501 (talk) 04:02, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

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I see that you used AWB to change many articles, to replace all instances of {{fc|Mytown}} with [[Mytown F.C.|Mytown]]. Why is this? The {{fc|Mytown}} technique is very neat and saves a lot of typing, so presumably there must be a good reason not to use it? --Concrete Cowboy 13:13, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

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Ok, like any other subst. Tried it. It works. Thanks for help. --Concrete Cowboy 22:57, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Two questions

First, about the XfD process. It it worthwhile to chime in and weigh the validity of the nominator's claim based on Wikipedia policy to determine if the article(s) up for deletion should be deleted if there are already a good number of editors leaning one way or the other? I mean, some of the articles in question I could read over and either agree or disagree with, but I am hesitant in some of the older nominations to add due to the length even though the wording would be original, the core reason to delete might be the same (ie, 10 editors citing a specific policy/guideline that it fails, WEB for example, and then adding another that says essentially the same thing).

Second, regarding WP:N. More often than not I can tell if a subject is lacking notability, and I try to distance myself to not let my own ideas influence the decision (same thing I do on all of Wikipedia). However, according to the core notability guideline, a topic is notable if it is the subject of multiple, non-trivial, independent, reliable published works. To use an example, I weighed in on an AfD on Ergophobia, and was not able to find multiple and/or non-trivial sources with which to verify the notability. Another editor said (copying here for simplicity):

Notable here means WP:N "worthy of being noted" or "attracting notice". It is not synonymous with "fame" or "importance". Therfore it is immaterial if it is on google or not.

And I am not trying to dispute that. However, according to WP:N it needs to have sources, and since I could not find any, I !voted to revert it to a redirect. The question is, do I have a decent grasp of WP:N, or is my understanding somewhat skewed? I wish you a great day, and happy editing. Kyra~(talk) 22:33, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Eastern Suburbs & Illawarra Line FAC

Hi Mets501, just thought I'd let you know that I've done some more work on the article in question if you want to check it and make some more comments. The annoying bit at the beginning is still not fixed, but I'll get onto it. I also wanted to thank you for giving helpful advice on the article that even if the FAC fails, will help me get it to FAC status eventually - I've been really discouraged and even disgusted by the actions of another editor on that FAC, but you have kept my faith in Wikipedia. Thanks. JROBBO 11:44, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

AfD closure corrections

I saw you corrected where I placed the templates, thank you. :) Other than that, I'd like to know if you think I did alright, those two are the first I've ever closed, if you have a moment. Thanks! Seraphimblade 11:45, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

MFD: Lamest Edit Wars

In case you didn't notice on its talk page, Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars ever was nominated for deletion four times prior to your nomination, and the consensus each time was to keep it. The page is a mild lesson on what sorts of things are not worth arguing about on Wikipedia -- and that is what makes the entries so funny. --Stratadrake 13:58, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Not so recent change

Image:Stop_hand.svg looks horrible, We (Read the discuss) request you put the previous back in. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Merranvo (talkcontribs) 06:48, 25 January 2007 (UTC).

Re: Deletion of the article on Manufacturing Engineering Centre

  1. An article about a very well-known university research centre is 'blatant advertising' whilst an article about the fast food chain Mc Donald is not!
  2. Wikipedia policy: anyone can remove an article as HE so wishes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sweetpea2007 (talkcontribs)

BFA

Would you have a chance to read through the BJBot proposal? All discussion has stopped and it is just waiting on a member of the approval group. Thanks. BJTalk 17:52, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

STTWbot

I have tested the AWB bot and it works, thanks for the approval. STTW (talk) 20:22, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Rob110178bot Request

Thanks for your assistance in this matter. Sorry about the confusion.... Rob110178 22:27, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Bot Edit Rate

I have a quick question. I am using AWB and it is fully manual, however I seem to be coming close to the 3 edits/min threshold because I am finding numerous articles that require the same tag. (I stress fully manual, I open an article, tag as necessary, preview, than save it, however its going faster than planned) I have to stop to hit other stuff to prevent hitting the 3 edit/min limit. Can you give me some guidance/advice on this matter? Thanks! Rob110178 20:43, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the assistance with this! Rob110178 20:55, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

disscus

let's talk about that article huh. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hfjy (talkcontribs) 15:31, 27 January 2007 (UTC).

Metsbot subst-ing

I noticed that your bot does subst-ing work, so I do appreciate some assistance here. Basically I'm doing the housekeeping work of the Esperanza's MfD/DRV, in which I want to subst and then redirect some templates per the MessedRocker solution, but they are currently transcluded to too many pages for me to do by hand. I've added the request and to-do list here. Thanks in advance! :) - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 16:50, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Cool, that's fast! Thanks again! - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 17:07, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
    • I thought the transclusion was already complete, in which I redirected the templates too early...My apologies for the error! I think I'd best leave the redirecting to you. Sorry again! - Mailer Diablo 17:36, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, bottask?

I see you are running a bot, would metsbot be capable and willing of doing this for me?

  • From a certain list of articles, change {{chemistry}} into {{chemicals}}, including an empty class and importance parameter
  • 'Steal' the class from other tags and put it as a parameter in {{chemicals}}
  • Warn me somewhere when there are different classes used in the templates

Thanks already! --Dirk Beetstra T C 18:10, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

I should already say .. the list is not really perfect .. almost, maybe. --Dirk Beetstra T C 18:17, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Your user warning templates are out of date

Did you intend to replace your {{TestTemplates}} call with the new list from WP:UWT? It might be a good idea. I don't know that the old templates will continue to exist or not. Will (Talk - contribs) 22:09, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Polar coordinate system: "angle of elevation"

If you look at your version, and the one before you'll see the only actual change is switching from "with m the slope" to "where m is the slope". While it does improve the phrasing some, it does nothing in the way of actually clarifying it. Circeus 13:52, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I think it's clearer if you start by defining what φ, and then saying that it is called the angle of elevation on the line. Stating it the other way sounds like the reader is expected to know what "angle of elevation means", and then gives him a reminder just in case.
I get it better now (I first read through the article around 1am and my technical english did not immediately identify "slope" and "arctan" as what they are), but still think it could be cleared up.
And by the way, about the image under "Complex number," I meant for a graphic representation of that point in the Polar plane, not the cartesian one (Complex plane makes a good job of explaining that).Circeus 14:09, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
I think what confuses me is the transition from the cartesian equation to the polar one. The Polar equation cannot be directly derived from the first, because the first contains no angular measure. Even though the angle is easily derived if you're the least mathematically inclined, the just then to the third equation is simply too abrupt, not to mention that the parentheses vanishes in that last equation, which makes it look like it's a different form.
Yes, I say "form". The first equation plots a point (x,y) via that equation. The second equation has the form of a function (r(θ)vsr(cosθ + isinθ)) whose conection to the first equation is not clear, and the third switch back from a function to an equation...
So, the connection between z = x + iy and z = r(cosθ + isinθ) should be made clearer, and why z = reiθ is not z = r(eiθ) should be clearer.
I hope that makes sense

. Circeus 15:52, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Ooooh. With the second clarified, it's definitively better. I added a note about the trigo values being derived from x and y, to make the link between the two first equations clearer. Circeus 16:20, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Nevermind the note. My last concern about these three equations is that I believe the mention that the rectangular-polar conversion is made using the formula given earlier comes too late to be clearly linked to the proper step. I added a mention of the conversion in the proper location. I'd be even tempted to go as far as putt in in the z = r\cos\theta+ri\sin\theta\ form too, but maybe that's too much.Circeus 16:28, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Me again! I was looking at the article and randomly musing/poking about and I realized:

  • The article does not make mention of Bipolar coordinates systems
  • The statement "Changing the parameter a [in the archimedean spiral equation] will turn the spiral" is misleading. It's not actually a rotation, it's an homothecy.
  • Is there a (simple) way to rotate a Polar rose? (I wondered that since there is a way to "rotate" the spiral)

Circeus 22:22, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

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The record shows that a deletion was made by the user Mets501 [[36] The current Stub is not a copy of the deleted article and is in full compliance with Wikipedia guidelines yet it was deleted. The stub was replaced as is warranted and the preciptous action taken the first time then became the sole purpose for second deletion. This circular reasoning does not comply with Wikipedia policy.

A Request for Arbitration has been made [[37]].

If you have any disagreement in this matter. Take your views ot the Dogme ETL Talk page if you wish to be involved in this matter. Malangthon 00:25, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

mac os x template

Someone came around the help desk, at Wikipedia:Help desk#Broken OS template in WikiProject for User Categorisation?, asking about this user template you deleted. Apparently the place it was advertized offers no user-subspace template replacement. Did you create one? Are we deleting userboxes again without moving them to userspace? Your help is appreciated, — coelacan talk — 07:54, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Do you know where the userspace box is? It's not advertized at Category:Wikipedians who use Mac OS X, where that user was looking. — coelacan talk — 21:10, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! — coelacan talk — 21:15, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
A suggestion: you might want to have your bot look for instances of templates being advertized, by "tl" or "nowiki", so they don't become hard for users to find in the future. — coelacan talk — 21:25, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm the person that came looking for help...but coelacan never came back :( Can you answer my question? I still can't use the template. I'm still confused how to use the code shown on that page, and I find no explanation or examples anywhere (I'm noticing Wikipedia is a little light on examples, I wish it had more, it's a lot more clear & concise than lots of help text). When I paste in, exactly, "Mets501" (without the quotes) it clearly isn't working right. Am I supposed to write something in place of "PAGENAME"? --Jason C.K. 19:49, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: ‘Manufacturing Engineering Centre (MEC)’ article

Hi Mets501,

I understand that the MEC article was considered "blatant advertising" because of certain phrases that I used to describe the Centre. However, my description of the MEC is entirely based on facts, as you will see below. The MEC is a non-profit organisation - a research centre of Cardiff University. Our mission is "to conduct world-class research and development in all major areas of advanced manufacturing technology and use the output to promote the introduction of knowledge based manufacturing to industry in Wales and in the rest of the United Kingdom." We are not a commercial organisation and therefore do not engage in "blatant advertising".


Here are my explanations for using the phrases that were found objectionable:

1."award-winning Centre":- the MEC received two major awards: "DTI University/Industry First Prize" and the "Queen's Anniversary Prize for Higher and Further Education" and the MEC is the only advanced manufacturing research centre in the UK to have earned both accolades.

2."The work of the 90 strong MEC has received the overwhelming endorsement of sponsors and supporters":- The MEC has 90 researchers and supporting staff and over 100 industrial partners who support research projects at the Centre. We are also endowed with two industry-sponsored laboratories- the Mitutoyo Metrology Centre and Siemens Automation and Drives Centre.

3."attracted hundreds of industrial partners" and "establishing lasting and fruitful partnerships with industry" - it is a fact that the MEC attracted hundreds of industrial partners. The MEC was awarded the DTI University/Industry First Prize by the Secretary of State for Trade & Industry in recognition of its success in building lasting and fruitful research partnerships with industry (which was what the Prize was for).


Could you reinstall the article?

Thank you.

Regards,

Paulette

Sweetpea2007 17:31, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Dune box - incorrect migration - FYI

The bot incorrectly replaced the Dune Fear box. It was replacing {{user Dune:Fear}} with User:Scepia/Dune:Fear (incorrect) instead of User:Scepia/Dune/Fear (correct). See recent history at User:Fang Aili/Userboxes and memeage for details. Cheers, Fang Aili talk 18:10, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and a while back it also replaced {{User its}} with User:Scepia/iTS, which are entirely different boxes. [38] --Fang Aili talk 18:12, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
The its/iTS bug has been fixed, but I don't have any idea what's causing the Dune:Fear problem. I checked the code, I don't see anything that could cause it. For now, I'll just let it replace {{user Dune:Fear}} with User:Scepia/Dune:Fear and then run my bot through all of them and change it to User:Scepia/Dune/Fear. —Mets501 (talk) 18:48, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Sounds good. --Fang Aili talk 18:50, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Review of Manufacturing Engineering Centre

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Manufacturing_Engineering_Centre. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Sweetpea2007 18:49, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

I noticed your bot migrated the userboxes that are on my page. Much thanks in this regard! .V. [Talk|Email] 21:16, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Your Bot Did Good!

This fixed a Userbox problem I had before I had even noticed it had happened - I commend your preformance, young sir!--SteelersFan UK06 01:30, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

My Bot Request

Thanks for your opinion on my Bot Request. As you stated, you didn't think that it would be a good idea. Then possibly what about a AIV alert bot that can work with a user's monobook.js and popup a message alerting a administrator when they access any page on Wikipedia, that action is required for a new AIV candidate that has recently been posted on WP:AIV with the the message either the bot or user has left about them and links to the offender's userpage, contribs and also for admins the block or warn tools? If not, is there any other bots that are needed in the WP:AIV area? Please give me an opinion on that. Many thanks, --Extranet (Talk | Contribs) 03:31, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Is there any other bots that you think I could suggest? I am a very enthusiastic Wikipedian and would like to run a bot for the community. Also, I have decided to reply to requests on my talk page. You may want to watch my talk page until you think we have finished having our conversation. Thank you! --Extranet (Talk | Contribs) 03:58, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

T:MainPage

It was added by this user. ffm yes? 14:54, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

AWB & Admin

How do I turn on that feature for myself / my colleagues (admins @ nl:), or isn't that possible on nl: ? It would come in very handy... Does it involve the simple adding of a header ==Admins==, or in Dutch ==Moderators== to the checkpage there, or is a special setting of the AWB needed? Cheers, Niels|en talk-nl talk (faster response)| 16:10, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Tnx! Niels|en talk-nl talk (faster response)| 08:44, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

6 minutes

6 minutes to get a bot approval, that must be some kind of record. HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 01:21, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

About AWBّّْ

Will AWB support right to left languages like Arabic or Persian? hujiTALK 18:12, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

It should, as far as I know. Try it out, and let me know :-) —Mets501 (talk) 19:28, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
I checked it out. These wikis are not listed on the Language dropdown: fa, ar, he. I'm afraid no check pages are available on those wikis as well. I'm thinking of extending AWB's source code to be usable for Farsi wikipedia. I've downloaded the source code. Any recommendations? hujiTALK 07:30, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
He is listed, but the other two are not. If you cannot get the custom project working, then you could add fa and ar to Variables.cs in WikiFunctions (you'll have to add them to "public enum LangCodeEnum" and create a case for their namespaces below). —Mets501 (talk) 12:01, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
All right. There is one more thing I need to know. Do we need to have a checkpage on Fa wiki to make AWB work? hujiTALK 20:25, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi Mets501. Thank you for your prompt approval of WP 1.0 bot. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 02:12, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Polar coordinate system FA

I must have been dozing off last week —I didn't notice until just now that polar coordinate system got its star. Congratulations! Let me know if I can help with any further editing. Regards, Newyorkbrad 20:12, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Bot requests

Sorry to ask you directly, but you seem to be the goto person on this and I didn't know where else to turn. What is the policy on resubmitting bot requests for approval? Should a new userid be created or is it ok to reuse one that was withdrawn? --Selket Talk 00:26, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

No problem :-) If you want to request a new task for your bot, you can use the same bot account, just create a new request subpage. For example, if you want to request another task for your bot, you can call the subpage Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/SelketBot 2. —Mets501 (talk) 01:31, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Sweet! Thanks. --Selket Talk 01:35, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks for moving the page; I was planning to do it once I thought it was accepted by the project. I'm writing to point out that when you move a page that uses Portal:Boxheader you have to fix the edit link, which has the location of the page hardcoded into the article source code. Otherwise the edit link points to the old location instead of the new one. CMummert · talk 02:50, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

I din't notice it before, but thanks for fixing my templates.Therequiembellishere 21:19, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Google search on AWB

Hi Mets!

The "google search" function on AWB doesn't appear to work anymore. I originally posted a message to WT:AWB earlier this week, but got no response, except from someone else saying the same thing. I'm not even sure you're the right man to ask, but it appears you were answering questions on the AWB talk page, so I assume (perhaps incorrectly) that you know something about the internal workings of the program. Is this something that is being worked on? Any ideas what happened? Google search on AWB was the best. I used it every week to find common typos and misspellings and fix them quickly and easily. Now the mispellings are building up, with no real way of fixing them... Any information you can provide is appreciated. Thanks, Firsfron of Ronchester 20:39, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Your post prompted me to create Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Bugs, a new page just for reporting bugs to the AWB developers (including myself). If you can post the bug there, that would be great. Thanks so much! —Mets501 (talk) 22:30, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for creating the bug page, Mets. If there's anything you could do to fix the problem, I'd be forever in your debt. I don't know what happened. One day it worked; the next day, no results were found. The searches I do should normally find hundreds, and often up to a thousand, results. Finding no results, even for a seach on a word such as "the", indicates something isn't working. I've downloaded the latest version, but there's just something wonky going on. Thank you for your time. Firsfron of Ronchester 23:22, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

GFDL image tag migration?

According to this, there is a plan to migrate all instances of {{GFDL}} to {{GFDL-with-disclaimers}} at which point it would be replaced with a no disclaimer version. Is that still what is going to happen? I am asking because I was planning on adding another task onto VixDaemon to do just that. I hope you have a most wonderful day, and happy editing! Kyra~(talk) 06:52, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Hrm... yes, that would seem to be an issue, however the text on both of the license templates is identical; To me at least, it indicates that there is no inherent difference between the two. I think I'll first ask Dragons flight if that was what he intended to happen, and after I get a reply (and if that is what he intended) I'll post a message to the proposals section of the Village Pump. At least I can't think of a better place to do so off the top of my head. Oh, and I did think what would happen if there was a move of the template... it wouldn't work. The {{GFDL}} template is (supposed to at least) become {{GFDL}}, so a move like that actually -would- change the license, so a source code change is needed. I'll admit it took me a few minutes to figure out what would happen, however. Anyway, I hope you have a most wonderful day, and happy editing. ^.^ Kyra~(talk) 21:28, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

MetsBot edit to User:Robwingfield

All contributions are strongly appreciated and encouraged, but your recent edit to the userpage of another user may be considered vandalism. Specifically, your edit to User:Robwingfield is unwelcome as it not only migrated userboxes, but damaged other content on the page. Please use the sandbox for any tests you may want to do, particularly to userpages. Thank you. robwingfield «TC» 10:27, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for the bug in my bot's code. I've fixed it now. —METS501 (talk) 15:19, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
No problem... just a friendly suggestion that you test in future...?  ;-) robwingfield «TC» 17:55, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

"Technical restrictions" title fix on svwp

Hi! I have a question about the wonderful "technical restrictions" title fix hack. I have copied it to Swedish Wikipedia, and it works like a charm. One odd thing though: the title of the template sv:Mall:Liten begynnelsebokstav, our equivalent of {{lowercase}}, gets changed to "Template:liten begynnelsebokstav", instead of the Swedish namespace prefix "Mall:". Do you have any idea of how to fix this? /skagedal... 12:42, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

The problem is the wgCanonicalNamespace javascript variable. It always has the default name of the namespace, instead of the translated version. For example, your "Mall" namespace has wgCanonicalNamespace == "Template". This won't be a problem on articles, but if you want to fix it, you can set up an if..then loop for each of the namespaces, or you can just leave it alone :-). You should also change document.title = realTitleText + " - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"; to document.title = realTitleText + " - Wikipedia, den fria encyklopedin";, too. —METS501 (talk) 15:34, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Hello again! I fixed this by getting the namespace from wgPageName instead of wgCanonicalNamespace, see here. Enwiki could also use this code, if you want it to work correctly in the "Wikipedia:" namespace... not very important I guess. :) /skagedal... 18:55, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Bad Bots

Hi! I just wanted to warn you that MetsBot has been messing with pages. The bot most recently screwed up my user page by playing with my user boxes. The bot can be turned off, but, only by administrators or the person who created the bot. That is why I am turning to you. Please Help!--Sportman2 03:47, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I saw in the bot's contributions that he (or she ?) moved many templates to other templates. First off, why did they need to be moved? Second, did the moves work because when I tried the new templates I was told thy weren't existent. However, the old templates worked. Please Help!--Sportman2 04:06, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

But, the new user boxes do not work!!! But, the old ones work perfectly.--Sportman2 04:13, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Now they do. But, before they didn't.--Sportman2 04:20, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your help!--Sportman2 04:21, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Userboxes

Hello, MestBot. I want to warn you NOT to change anything with my userboxes because they are on MY userpage. If you wish to change something on my userpage, ask me first and I will change it, not you. Radical3 03:52, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Userboxes Redirecting

Wats up with changing the userboxes..Your bot has made them more ugly.We prefer to see the userboxes that we are using and not the ugly ones you left on our page which you need to redirect to get to the original like what you did to these templates

  • {{User:supports the All Blacks}}
  • {{User:Waikato Chiefs}}
  • {{User:Auckland Blues}}
  • {{User:Crusaders}}
Pliz revert it back.. I dont think there was any problems with those userboxes--Cometstyles 12:39, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
I have seen that you have gotten rid of All Rugby Union Related userboxes and you didnt even explain why Wikipedia:Userboxes/Rugby Union. I need an Explanation as quick as possible regarding this highly vandalism type problem which you or your malfunctioning Bot has caused..Pliz Explain..--Cometstyles 13:05, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Spring Training

As a proven Mets fan, I'm sure you're looking forward to Opening Day after that disappointing loss to the Cardinal. If you read this then maybe you'd see that the 2007 season is now less then two months away. BuickCenturyDriver 13:13, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Box moves

Is the bot supposed to update pages transcluding the current templates? It seems to have done so for some, but not for others... --pgk 14:05, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Thats exactly the thing I was complaining about. The Bot might have a problem because right now Iam going around fixing templates for those users whom the the bot didnt update..Mets501 Pliz fix these problems ..thanx..--Cometstyles 14:11, 11 February 2007 (UTC)


Ok thanks, you might like to consider sticking a large banner at the top of this talk page (when running) and on the bots page to explain the processing sequence a little, and that patience may be required, that may prevent the bot getting blocked and avoid some of the questions. We all know how critical these pretty little boxes are to the smooth functioning of wikipedia. --pgk 14:14, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
hmmm OK..ø~Cometstyles~ø(talk)

UBX Box migrations

Thank you doing that on the userboxes that I had. Actually, thank your bot, but it is still the same. Chris 19:17, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

This is a automated to all bot operators

Please take a few moments and fill in the data for your bot on Wikipedia:Bots/Status Thank you Betacommand (talkcontribsBot) 19:41, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

AWB

I noticed you are active in developing AWB so I figured I'd ask you. What would you think of adding the foot note corrections we discussed a week or so ago to the "apply general fixes" list of things to fix? I can do the c# coding, but I wanted someone else's opinion first. --Selket Talk 20:49, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I sent you an email, but in case I'm not on later, I posted the two changed files at User:Selket/Main.cs and User:Selket/Parsers.cs. -Selket Talk 23:22, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks again for you help editing, testing, and checking in the AWB changes. When you get a chance could you take a look at WP:B/RFA? Tawker asked me to do a test run, which I did about a day and a half ago, but I haven't heard from him since. --Selket Talk 22:24, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

can you please sew Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser#Arabic Wikipedia Menasim( discuss | ) 22:09, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

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box migration

I've reverted your edit as the box you're trying to move to doesn't exist. A bit of warning would of been polite too... Lugnuts 19:05, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Ar WP

I provided the two things Menasim( discuss | ) 19:45, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Pywikipedia framework

A couple of quick questions about the pywikipedia framework which I just recently grabbed. I don't know how to actually code in python, but would Replace.py work as a standalone script? Main reason I am asking is because I am planning on submitting the next task for my bot using Pywikipedia instead of AWB to keep IE free for other uses, since I am quite certain that it will take at least ten days to finish at six edits per minute. Second, I don't see any edit rate variable/control specified in either login.py or replace.py, so even if I did get approved to use Python, I wouldn't know how to keep it in check.

And the last immediate question that comes to mind, is it possible to either test the script offline or use a separate account (or just use VixDaemon) to test within its own subpages for small scale testing? I can't find any policy that explicitly disallows it, but I'd like to make sure it is allowed before proceeding with that route, at least. I hope you have a most wonderful day, Mets. ^.^ Kyra~(talk) 04:35, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks for the info, but I think I have figured it out for what I need it do do. I thought the script was broken once, but it turned out I didn't save the input file for one trial. It's the small things you overlook, apparently. I shall keep Cyde in mind if I do encounter any unforeseen difficulties with the scripts. Thanks again for the help! Kyra~(talk) 06:12, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

MSN/Aim

Hi, Have you got MSN/AIM?

If so would you mind adding me?

<e-mail address snipped to prevent spamming>

or

ReedyRe3dyb0y

for aim


Reedy Boy 21:59, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

I have both, but use them so rarely that it's not worth it. If you need something urgent, just email me (Outlook will let me know I have a new message) and we can chat on IRC if we need quick communication. :-) —METS501 (talk) 22:01, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


Which IRC do you hang out on? Are you there now? Reedy Boy 22:06, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Polar coordinate system

Congratulations. I know how hard you worked on this. Newyorkbrad 00:25, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Escape special characters in your urls - "&", for example.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:M&diff=107471362&oldid=79534918

don't reply, but check for other pages your bot might have messed up (or skipped). –MT 07:48, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Userpage

Image:Barnstar_userpage.gifI'm giving you the Excellent User Page Award for inspiring me to rebuild my User page.

Your userpage is awesome. Now, Im going to rebuild my userpage using your userpage format. If Im going to have problem doing my page, I'll just give you message. Thanks! Awesome page :) Hedwig0407 03:49, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Ok, your page really awesome. It takes me minutes to find the source of your main userpage. (I hope you know what Im talking about). I've seen other userpages you made for others, and I like the page of Mkdw. Would you please make me starter code for my page? Use the layout of Mkdw (but I dont mean exactly) and your page (like the borders in your page). Include: About Me and Contact Me. Then make separate table for my userboxes (refer to my userpage for the different categories of my userboxes). Thank you.

By the way, how/where did you put your http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mets501/Content? Hedwig0407 05:23, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Never mind the message. :) You may delete that. I've manage to know. Thanks. Hedwig0407 05:51, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Good day again! Thank you again for inspiring me to rebuild my page. I'm now in the process of putting finishing touches, but it's 99.9% done. If you have time, please visit my page and have a look. It's my pleasure if you put my name on the Userpages who "designed by me or inspired by this page". Also, I want to put something on my page that gave you recognition or acknowledgment of inspiring me but I can't think of what it is. If you have simple idea on how I can acknowledge you, please leave me a message in my talk page. Again thank you. :) Hedwig0407talk 02:25, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Everybody Votes Channel

Could you please protect this redirect page (along with the similar page called "Everybody Votes")? There was an AFD and the result was "redirect and protect", but it wasn't protected since an anon IP just vandalized the page by restoring it back to how it was before the AFD. TJ Spyke 06:41, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Can you please UNPROTECT this redirect page and revert it to the full page? There was indeed an AFD, and the outcome was "redirect and protect". And then there was a deletion review, and the outcome was "redirect unprotected; undoing the merge, adjusting it, or leaving it be is an editorial decision for the two article's talk pages". There is a topic on the talk page for such a discussion. TJ Spyke took part in the deletion review, so I can't quite see how he's forgotten about it already. Tim 14:15, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

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Wikiproject Scouting userboxes

Your bot has been moving the various userboxes associated with Wikiproject Scouting. I am not sure what prompted you to do that, but we would have preferred that you initiate a discussion on the project talk page first. If nothing else, the wholesale movement has caused some consternation and possibly engenders antagonism where none previously existed. Anyway, we are considering other options. If we come to a consensus, can we employ your bot to help us implement our proposed solution? Let me know. --NThurston 21:08, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Scouting project userboxes

(pasted from project talk page) Hi, I'm the owner of MetsBot, who moved these userboxes. If people here would prefer, I have no problem with moving all of the scouting-related userboxes in Category:Scouting user templates to a subpage of Wikipedia:WikiProject Scouting; just give me the word and I'll have those templates moved and their references on Userpages updated. —METS501 (talk) 21:57, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I like this best of all...please them here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Scouting/Userboxes. Thanks. Rlevse 22:05, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
It looks like the bot is not catching {{User:UBX/eagle scout}} when it is in lower case. --NThurston 21:51, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Migrated Userboxes in My Page

Hey, Mets501, what did you do to migrate my userboxes? They look pretty much the same. Ace Fighter 00:26, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

My Quotes

I'm planning to add quotations for my page and I'm having diffculty dealing with quotetemps thing. Please help me about that.

Mine: Quotetemp - User:Hedwig0407/Quotetemp

Quotes - User:Hedwig0407/Quotes

I dont know how much quotes I'll add. Hedwig0407talk 04:37, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Again, I'm sorry for disturbing your page. I've manage dealing the quotetemp. Its ok now. :) Hedwig0407talk 05:05, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Less than 2 monhs till Opening Day

Hey, I'm also from the NY metropolitian area. I can tell by your name that you can't wait for the 2007 season to begin after watching the Mets fall to the Cards last October. Do you live in NYC? BuickCenturyDriver (Honk, odometer) 07:31, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Delete link when moving pages

Hello Mets501. I see you removed the link to delete redirects from MediaWiki:Pagemovedtext, providing JavaScript on the talk page that dynamically builds the delete link for administrators instead. This method is relatively clumsy; it requires that administrators find the MediaWiki page, notice the JavaScript code on its talk page, and install it before they can have a delete link. This will not work if they disabled JavaScript, which is not uncommon.

It is far simpler to add a link directly to the message and hide it with CSS from non-administrators (<span style="display:none;" class="admins">). Administrators can add a line (.admins { display:inline; }) to their CSS file to enable all such admin-only content project-wide. Does this alternative CSS method sound reasonable? —{admin} Pathoschild 02:02:44, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

That was actually the method I supported, but it was rejected by the community (if I can find the discussion I'll give you a link to it). It's much superior, but not acceptable to people (for some reason or another). Actually, maybe we can do something with the new wgUserGroups array in the sitewide javascript? Like the delete link would appear automatically if the user is a member of the "sysop" group. What do you think? —METS501 (talk) 04:04, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
I've found the discussion you're referring to in the common stylesheet archives. That array makes things much easier. We could write a single script for administrators that generates content on all forms, with nonstandard attributes to pass data to the script more efficiently (ie, <span id="admins" placeholder="deletelink" title="$2"></span>). Coded properly, non-administrators will only have to parse the condition check. How does that sound? —{admin} Pathoschild 23:02:13, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. Are you up to writing it? My javascript skills are less than I'd like them to be :-) —METS501 (talk) 23:49, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
I'll write it sometime soon, then. :) —{admin} Pathoschild 00:02:40, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Automated message to bot owners

As a result of discussion on the village pump and mailing list, bots are now allowed to edit up to 15 times per minute. The following is the new text regarding bot edit rates from Wikipedia:Bot Policy:

Until new bots are accepted they should wait 30-60 seconds between edits, so as to not clog the recent changes list and user watchlists. After being accepted and a bureaucrat has marked them as a bot, they can edit at a much faster pace. Bots doing non-urgent tasks should edit approximately once every ten seconds, while bots who would benefit from faster editing may edit approximately once every every four seconds.

Also, to eliminate the need to spam the bot talk pages, please add Wikipedia:Bot owners' noticeboard to your watchlist. Future messages which affect bot owners will be posted there. Thank you. --Mets501 04:19, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Once every four seconds? People have connections fast enough to do that? Lucky them... – Qxz 08:34, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

User:UBX migrations

Hi Mets501, when I noticed all your activity moving userboxes, I posted some questions at Wikipedia talk:Userbox migration#User:UBX. Even though you reference the UBX migration, none of the "old timers" seemed to know what you were up to. Maybe you can enlighten us about what's going on at that thread.

Let me say that I support your actions. In fact, I have two requests for you to do:

  1. move all userboxes at User:Rfrisbie/Userbox to User:UBX, bypassing the created redirects; and
  2. move User:Rfrisbie/Userbox with its related subpages to one of your user areas. Ideally, IMHO, User:Rfrisbie/Userbox would go to User:UBX, but that would be up to you.

In any event, I am going to have all these pages removed from my user area. Based on your recent activity, you seem to be the perfect recipient. No matter what you decide, please make your reply to these requests at this thread. Thanks, Rfrisbie 23:29, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

I have absolutely no opinion where all the userboxes should go, but I don't quite understand why (only?) {{User Bosnia and Herzegovina}} was moved to User:UBX/Bosnia and Herzegovina, when no other Category:Nation of origin user templates was? WP:GUS still refers only to controversial userboxes, and it has the clause "If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. " right? Duja 16:27, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

User signatures

If you would like to have some more fun substituting user signatures, I found one: User:Blankfaze/sig. Cheers, Iamunknown 02:54, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

AWB Feature/Bugs

Hi, Can you look over the feature request/bug pages, ideally need some input =)

Cheers

Reedy Boy 14:26, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Educational userboxes

You recently said "All the templates regarding...educational experience...are staying in template space." at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Scouting#WikiProject Scouting Userboxes. Yet you recently userfied {{User ISU Cyclone}}. Someone complained on my talkpage about it because my bot was changing links to it, and I quite agree with him. The education-related userboxes should stay in template space. Please put it back.--Dycedarg ж 16:10, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

AWB Notification Area Icon

Hi Jeremy, Was just thinking, we could setup AWB to be able to be 'minimised' to the notification area?

Do you think that would be a useful feature, of course, at the users choice.


Cheers

Sam Reedy Boy 19:43, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, that would be cool. Do you know how to do it though? :-) —METS501 (talk) 02:28, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Yup, i know how to do it, i've only really done it with it displaying at form load, ie its set in design mode, but i thin i'll be able to sort it =) Reedy Boy 10:23, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

AWB Bug: %%key%% includes namespace

I've got a fix for that one, ie if "Author:" is in the string, it replaces it with ""

That should solve it i think

Its just the other namespaces.... I'll commit it, but im not 100% sure

Any ideas?


Reedy Boy 22:51, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, try searching the string for the different namespaces. Will implement that now. —METS501 (talk) 02:29, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Done. —METS501 (talk) 02:37, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanking you! Reedy Boy 10:23, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

RE: Bot Bug

Thanks for pointing that apostrophe problem out and fixing it. I did notice that soon after that particular run was done. I fixed the bug in the bot and all the instances of the error I could find, but I guess I missed a page. I also fixed the {{User milk2}} instead of {{User:UBX/milk}} problem.--Dycedarg ж 19:53, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Userbox stuff

Hi, Mets! I hope you don't mind, but I've moved the dozen or so userboxes I've hosted in my user space to User:UBX's user space because I'm tired of hosting userboxes that I don't want to use. Just thought it'd be the Right Thing to Do to let you know. Signed, your friendly neighborhood MessedRocker. 17:50, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

My bot is dealing with that, thank you for offering! Signed, your friendly neighborhood MessedRocker. 18:04, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

awb approve

didn't realize. i guess i requested approval before. --EXV // + @ 00:44, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Plugin Settings Saving/Loading

Jeremy, Can steve and i borrow you at some point, and see if we can get this worked out for his plugin?

As it is getting a bit of a pain, steve did manage to save/load a string, but didnt get much further

Then when thats done, we can update the Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Plugins page, with some examples!

Ta,

Reedy Boy 14:37, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I've found the problem and am currently trying to solve it by altering AWB to recognise the types that the plugin is attempting to save. If this doesn't work I'll go for the simpler route of having AWB provide some generic settings objects for plugins to use. Either way, I'd like commit access please.
Am hoping Sam will be online soon as I'm a bit stuck on some probably simple C# syntax! :( --kingboyk 18:23, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

My Userpage Redesign

Just leaving a message as a reminder when you get some time

=)


Reedy Boy 20:52, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Userbox Thank You Box

The Userbox Thank You Box
This Userbox Thank You Box goes to Mets501 for the quick, efficient and effective migration of all userboxes and directory pages formerly at Rfrisbie to UBX. Thanks!!! :-) Rfrisbie 21:07, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Requested moves

I re-opened the discussion on the move of Trentino-South Tyrol and South Tyrol. If you want to say your opinion, you're welcome. --Checco 07:47, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Requested move on Robinho

The article page moved, but the talk page does not. Talk:Robson de SouzaTalk:Robinho. Matthew_hk tc 11:51, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Move request

Would you be so kind as to employ your bot to move {{User:Saoshyant/Userboxes/User oops}} to {{User:UBX/Oops}}? This was originally in Template and got userfied a long time ago. Thanks. --NThurston 20:17, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Good point. I'll deal with this a different way. --NThurston 22:00, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Encyclopedia-helping userboxes?

Could you perhaps explain why seemingly innocuous, beneficial-to-collaboration userboxes like User:UBX/pagan are being moved out of templatespace? Are we going to see WikiProject userboxes moved out of templatespace next (i.e., I don't see a significant distinction between "This user is interested in paganism" and "This user is a member of WikiProject Paganism")? -Silence 22:50, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Sorry

Hey - no worries! Keep up the development :-) Will (aka Wimt) 22:54, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

The Mets

..beat the St. Louis Cardinals 4-3 in spring training today, just to let you know. BuickCenturyDriver (Honk, odometer) 23:57, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Designing userpages

Hi Mets501 - I saw your offer to design userpages and thought "Thank You!" I've been around Wikipedia for about five months and really need a new userpage. Any help you can offer would be most appreciated. -- Jreferee 05:16, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

AWB Q

It says that I shouldn't make more than a few edits a minute with the AWB. Is that a rule or just a suggestion? I mean, if I'm working on fixing more than 10,000 links... - A Link to the Past (talk) 14:40, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, it's really a non-issue now, as I've started to take up cleaning up other stuff as I fix the links. But thanks for responding! - A Link to the Past (talk) 00:35, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Userbox question

How do you change userbox code from the HTML or CSS version into the wiki code that's like: {{User:Username/Example}}

Thanks

Sorry to spam your talk page with a thank you, but it seems rude to not. I really appreciate your response to my question. Thank you! --Theunicyclegirl 02:17, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

AWB CheckPage

I'm sorry, but after blanking enabled versions of the AutoWikiBrowser checkpage in the catalan wikipedia as you said, the AWB didn't work. Which was the problem?--Iradigalesc (discussions · +) 03:41, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, but if any user won't update the software? Can we leave the already active versions without adding more?.--Iradigalesc (discussions · +)
No, at least I don't see that.--Iradigalesc (discussions · +) 05:33, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
I have the same problem in ukrainian wiki. When I'm clear the versions section, I can't use AWB. --Movses 10:27, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Are you on the latest AWB version? Reedy Boy 19:20, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I'm using 3.1.3.0 --Movses
They say that there's no messagebox telling them to update, it just silently fails to operate. —METS501 (talk) 19:21, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
You haven't got it pointing to the language.namespace/wiki/AutoWikiBrowser or something stupid have you? Reedy Boy 19:22, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
No, the new version works, but the old versions don't tell them to update, so they don't think to do so. —METS501 (talk) 19:24, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Ahhhhhh Reedy Boy 09:48, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

RE:AWB

You wrote:

500 mainspace edits exactly! :-)

Does this mean that I have passed??? ChrisDHDR (T@£k) 07:04, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

PS: I didn't know I had exactly 500 edits, what a concidince!!!

A4bot

I have a great problem with my bot (User:A4bot) in English wiki. It looks like somebody unlegitimately blocked it. Could you possibly help me see what's happened? --A4 13:31, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Copt

You're not following the discussion. I am reverting back to the archived page. Egyegy 18:55, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Warning

Please stop leaving threatening and inappropriate templates on my talk page. I have not broken the 3rr rule and your harassment of me comes close to vandalism. Egyegy 19:03, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Warning

Yes! me too! __Maysara 04:28, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Esjay's talk

Much of the really unnesscsary nastiness has been removed from his talk page. His note about removals was *NOT* talking about this circumstance and was written many many months ago. Please let it go. There is no reason to force crap to stay there. I am not the only one who has removed comments. HE is capable of reading his history and there is no reason to pile insult on injury. I'm tired of people using his old statement to force personal attacks and incivility to stay there. pschemp | talk 19:17, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

IRCMonitor

Oi Mr, Yet again, you've forgotten to include IRCMonitor with AWB Tsk

Shame on you :P -- Reedy Boy 19:21, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

I was going to, but when I did a little bit of testing I saw that every time I tried to revert it blanked the page (see for example [39]). —METS501 (talk) 19:23, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh... Needs looking at i suppose!! Reedy Boy 19:24, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Help our portuguese enc yclopedia to grow up

Move requests at South Tyrol and Trentino-South Tyrol

Hello Mets501, I remember you were familiar with this debate. Also, I'd like to get some more native English speakers to weight in, so this doesn't turn into an Italian vs. German speakers vote. If anything, I'd hope as an Admin you can help keep a watch on these surveys so things are done right this time. regards, Taalo 02:43, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Request: Please revisit "Data Matrix" vs. "DataMatrix" title debate

Hi Mets501,

A few months back we had a brief discussion on the correctness of title for the article currently named "DataMatrix" (see original message at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mets501/Archive_11#Are_you_sure_you_want_to_move_.22Data_Matrix.22.3F)

I suggested my opinion that "Data Matrix" (two words) is the official and correct title for the article, and you reopened the conversation on the Discussion page of that article. It appears there are other people on the Discussion page of that article that agree with me, but I don't think anyone has weighed in since I made my first comment.

Are you comfortable renaming the article back to the "Data Matrix" title? If not, please let me know if there's anything I can do to help explain my reasoning.

Thanks, Mblaughton 20:01, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot

AFIAK it's a clone of Essjaybot (numbered accordingly) - we know what it's gonna do, the extra paperwork seemed unnecessary -- Tawker 20:49, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Move request

Hi Mets501, please refer to the message I've left for john k at, [40]; I would appreciate your feedback/suggestions. Regards, and thanks again for keeping an eye on this request. Taalo 20:56, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

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Trentino-South Tyrol

In the straw poll those against the current title of the page won 6-2, in the survey those proposing Trentino-Alto Adige are winning 9-8 (but pleas note that between those 8, there are 2 users who explicitly said that they dislike any title not comprising both Alto Adige and South Tyrol, so they oppose the status quo too, making those against the current title win 11-6).

Thus there is a clear majority of users against the current title. This is a point of no turning back. From this point we won't need to discuss anymore about Trentino-South Tyrol, 'cos this option has been refused by 11 users out of 17.

Now we need to move the discussion on only 3 options: Trentino-Alto Adige, Trentino-Alto Adige/South Tyrol and Trentino-Alto Adige/Südtirol. If none of the 3 options reaches the majority, we'll have a second round with the 2 most voted ones. What do you think about it? --Checco 17:17, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

At the bottom of the page I explained my opinion about the rules of the referendum. I would like to see your comments there in order to strenghten or change the rules I proposed. --Checco 08:13, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Help with a template

Hello! I am the Lead Coordinator for the WikiProject Paintball, but unfortunately I am not much of a "Wikipedia programmer." I'm simply not familiar with the Wiki markup, although I'm fluent in HTML and ActionScript, so I learn quickly. I'm trying to create a variable template for my project, one that assigns levels of "quality" to articles. Kinda like this one. I've tried to understand the source code, but I simply don't "get" how templates work in Wikipedia. If you could show me a link to a helpful guide, or give me a little crash course, it would be VERY MUCH appreciated! Thanks, RavenStorm 01:29, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Please sign my autograph page

Please sign my autograph page. A•N•N•Afoxlover PLEASE SIGN, ANYONE!!! 14:07, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

why?

tongue-in-cheek humour. anyway, i know it is probably more disruptive to WP than fun. my apologies. :-) Taalo 23:11, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

  • by the way, you'll still help admin this move request, eh? the trentino-aa/st is going ok. the south tyrol -- well, pretty much down "party lines". :} Taalo 23:14, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Ah, interesting (with regard to WP:POINT). I don't think I was so much trying to make a point, but rather to have people lighten-up a bit. Regardless, yes, I agree I would be culpable. Anyway, thanks for the warning, and also keeping an eye on things. I'm really not sure how to break what appears to be a deadlock at South Tyrol. I had some impression that move requests were in the end based on merit, not a popular vote. Most often I've seen things usually go the way of the latter though... Taalo 23:24, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

WP:RFCN

Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/User_names#GoatSe_.28talk_.E2.80.A2_contribs.29

On RFCN right now, there's some discussion about a page that you had deleted, and your input might be helpful if you have a moment. Thanks! -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 01:01, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

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Template replacement

Hello, thank you for your offer. {{AircraftProject}} and {{AirportProject}} need replacing. I don't know if it is possible, but the pages tagged AircraftProject could also have the parameter |Aircraft-project=yes added, and the ones tagged with AirportProject could use |Airports-project=yes. Thanks, Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 19:03, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

AWB

The latest commit doesn't build.

It gets the errors

The name 'temp' does not exist in the current context
ReplaceSpecial.cs
Line 719
Column 17
WikiFunctions

and

The type or namespace name 'IAWBMainForm' could not be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)
Main.cs
Line 48
Column 43
AutoWikiBrowser

No idea why.

Also, what do you think about integrating wikidiff2 into AWB? (See [41]) It's the code that generates the diffs. The only problem is that it's written in c++, not c#. Can we "translate" it with that site you told me about to translate the custom module code? That would allow us to generate the diffs locally, saving time for users when using AWB and saving resources. Then we can even eliminate the quick save option from the bots list. —METS501 (talk) 01:02, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

The ReplaceSpecial.cs error is my fault. I simplified some code i did, but didnt check it compiled. Commited so it compiles now!!. The 2nd error, im not sure... I usually just delete files like that and reupdate if i get errors like that....
That program will do a version of C++, so we could. What does MaxSem have to say? Reedy Boy 01:09, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Snowbot

Hi,

I would like to request a edit rate change for my bot, Snowbot. Can you please tell me what it the procedure for such a thing?

Thanks and happy editing,

Snowolf (talk) CON COI - 00:59, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Something like 7-10, I don't know how much exactly. Simply the currently rate of 5/min is slow, since CFD/W is really long many times. And even UCFD, sometimes. You're more expert than me, and you surely know better than me what is the rate that Snowbot need, I think ;-) Snowolf (talk) CON COI - 10:54, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

User page

So, you're still affiliated with Esperanza?  :-) - Anas Talk? 11:56, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

STTWbot

Hi Mets501! There seems to be some mistake perhaps from my side) as I wanted to request a 2nd task for my already existing bot, STTWbot and not a new bot (STTWbot 2). Which is shown in Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval#Bots_in_a_trial_period. Could you please correct it? STTW (talk) 18:01, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

B5 Wikiproject box

Hi Mets. The wikiprojects don't have to userfy their ubxes, according to the migration page. Cheers, Fang Aili talk 01:03, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Groovy, thanks. --Fang Aili talk 01:16, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

AWB / NW557Bot

Hello Mets501. My bot, NW557Bot, was recently approved for user talk template substitution using AWB. I've noticed a little problem while running the bot which doesn't cause any harm but does result in some unnecessary changes. The vandalism templates {{uw-vandalism1}}, etc. have <!-- {{uw-vandalism#}} --> commented at the end so it can be identified which template was used when substituted. When AWB goes to substitute templates on a user page, it doesn't ignore commented out templates, so it ends up changing <!-- {{uw-vandalism#}} --> to <!-- {{subst:uw-vandalism#}} --> if there are any substituted templates on the page which are listed in the list of templates to be substituted. Because they're commented out, it doesn't really make any difference, but it is an unnecessary change. Perhaps a feature could be built into an upcoming version of AWB that would add an option to ignore commented out templates when performing template substitution (or if one already exists, please let me know). Thanks for your time. --NickContact/Contribs 04:51, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

MetsBot userbox replacement mistake

I'd like to thank you for having your bot fix links to migrated userboxes; I can recall several instances in which it helped on my userpage. However, I noticed one mistake it made on User:SPKx in this edit, where it incorrectly replaced {{user age|24}} with {{user age|:UBX/24}}, certainly not a valid change. Just thought you should know. — Tuvok[T@lk/Improve me] 05:51, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I forgot to mention: If you respond, please either respond here or copy this section to my talk page. I like to keep conversations together. Thanks! — Tuvok[T@lk/Improve me] 05:55, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing that out. I've fixed in for the next bot run :-) —METS501 (talk) 05:59, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
No problem! As useful as bots are, I like to catch them when they make mistakes. ;-) — Tuvok[T@lk/Improve me] 00:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot edits to archive

Hi, Mets501. I reverted a few edits that your bot made while migrating userboxes: specifically, its edits to archive pages here, here and here. Since those pages are a record of discussions about the creation of the userboxes, it's not appropriate to change them to the UBX version. For talk page archives, it's usually better to have a redlink than to change someone else's comment.

I didn't check to see whether your bot had made changes to other talk page archives, but you might want to. It's not a huge deal, but it'd be better if your bot didn't edit archive pages like that. Thanks! —Josiah Rowe (talkcontribs) 07:58, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, I kind of disagree, the reason being that if you checked a user's contributions, they would be to the User:UBX/... page, not the Template:User ... page, as the histories were moved. It's also helpful to be able to actually see where the user's edits are, something that you can't find if you're not an admin who can view deleted revisions. What do you think? —METS501 (talk) 16:56, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, you can still see the user's contribution history. I can see your argument, but I tend to think of archive pages as a historical record that shouldn't be changed. I'll ask at Wikipedia talk:How to archive a talk page to see what the general sentiment there is. —Josiah Rowe (talkcontribs) 17:18, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Blanking edits on talk page

Hi Mets501, when you have a chance, could you comment on [42] (Editing talk pages). I've left a recommendation on the talk of Trentino-South Tyrol, but I'm guessing the User PhJ responds better to Admin advice. Taalo 16:49, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Sorry, didn't realize your were on vacation. I've left the message on another Admin's talk page. Taalo 16:57, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot keeps changing the same link

Mets, would you please take a look at the page history on WP:HAM. MetsBot has changed a template link three times now. This page lists both the old and new locations for the template in question and the bot keeps messing up the listing. The bot really shouldn't try and update the same page multiple times for the same edit. Thanks. --StuffOfInterest 17:56, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. That will help. Didn't mind the change on my user page, but it was really confusing the directory. --StuffOfInterest 19:02, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

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Migrate my archive?

Hi there,

I noticed what you did with Rfrisbie's userbox archive, and was wondering if you could do the same to mine (if it's not too much work) at User:MiraLuka/Userboxes (a full list is at User:MiraLuka/Userboxes/Alphabetical). I've been out of the userbox "business" for a while now, and I recently asked for a name change, so I thought this would be the ideal time to move them all out. Please let me know if you're willing to do this. —Mira 08:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

No work for me, just my bot. I'll start the work in a couple of days. —METS501 (talk) 17:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! —Mira 21:25, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot Malfunction

This user modified my User page incorrectly.

{{User Monty Python|Monty Python| is a fan of Monty Python}}

was changed to

{{User:UBX/Monty Python|:UBX/Monty Python| is a fan of Monty Python}}

As you can see, the link in the user box was corrupted by the bot. There was a page for "Monty Python", but there is no page for ":UBX/Monty Python".

Same here: [43] --bitterMan.lha 02:51, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Seeing as your bot did this to several hundred pages (at least) I have sent my bot to fix all instances of it that I could find.--Dycedarg ж 03:35, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

User PhJ

Hey Mets, can someone stop PhJ from blanking edits, and doing his line by line censuring? He reported me now for reverting his blanks. o_O Before he reported me for vandalism because I reverted his edits. o_O I don't know what is his agenda.. Taalo 19:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

my main page

Some bots went to my main page and made the boxes (firefox user, etc) work better. Thanks bot person owner! Cocopopz2005 04:16, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

South Tyrol

Hi Mets501, on South Tyrol could you maybe help steer us to a solution as well? The polling, to me, is just showing a complete split of opinion. Dare I say there appears to be quite a strong German interest in a page for South Tyrol. I see many people suggest (and I agree as well) to do a split of the article. One article for the province of BZ, and another for the history of the region AA/ST. Anyway, I would rather have an objective interpretation of the talk-page results; so when you have a chance, please take a look over. Really appreciate it! Taalo 01:13, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Userbox stuff

Okay, I've read it, but if it's not policy, then it doesn't stand against someone's good-faith opposition, right? Hey, be bold... but don't be reckless! ;) Matt Yeager (Talk?) 06:01, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I would think that when it's come under protest, yes, it is mildly reckless. Just mildly (heck, it's userboxes =P)... but still. Do redirects hurt? Matt Yeager (Talk?) 06:06, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
I hear you, but I'm fairly sure (could be wrong!) that "redirects are cheap" is part of some policy or guideline or something. That's all. I think this is just a priorities thing--I think it's kind of important for people to type in {{User:UBX/1337-4}} which, to me, seems the most natural name for the template. That's just me, though. I get what you're saying, but I've never seen the harm in userboxes in template space, let alone redirects out of template space. Matt Yeager (Talk?) 06:14, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Geo microformat

Please will you help to implement the Geo microformat in the Coor d template? Thank you. Andy Mabbett 17:19, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Please stop your bot from editing my page

I choose to keep deleted templates on my page. Please stop changing them. Jooler 19:32, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Nobots

I had Jooler's userpage on my watchlist for an unrelated reason, and I noticed that you added the nobots tag to prevent your bot from editing his userpage. He already had {{bots|deny=DyceBot,MetsBot}} on his userpage before the last edit by MetsBot, which your bot ignored. If your bot is configured to comply with the bots template in the first place (which is the only case under which the nobots tag would work anyway) than this should have stopped your bot from editing his page. I think you should reexamine your bot's exemption code if it's really supposed to be compliant with the tags. If it's running Pywikipedia there's a patch that works perfectly, that's how I got it to work for my bot. On another note, if your bot is fully compliant with the tags I would recommend you put its userpage in Category:Exclusion compliant bots so people know.--Dycedarg ж 20:10, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

motion to close mediation

hello there,

there was a mediation offer quite a while ago concerning the issue of Trentino-South Tyrol. I am happy to announce that the issue has been discussed, voted upon and settled. However the mediation offer still needs to be officially closed. Please take a minute to visit the page Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-10-20 Trentino-South Tyrol and put your signature at the bottom if you agree with the decision, thank you. sincerely Gryffindor 20:31, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

  • A very important note. This mediation offer concerned the greater overall naming convention to use in this region, not just the name of the region itself. We came up with a very good compromise for the regional name itself. I for one am still looking forward for Lar to help us out. Taalo 21:29, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

what is he up to now?

Assuming good faith of course. Gryffindor is trying to terminate the overall mediation offer by Lar (please see Lar's talk page for his own confusion). Gryffindor just unilaterally moved Bolzano to Bolzano-Bozen. While I agree with this edit, it goes completely against the move request that was just recently closed. This kind of brings some bad memories to what this fellow did on Trentino-Alto Adige back in 2005. Lastly, and I don't know if it is sour grapes, but he keeps deleting the Trentin-Adesc Aut, which is one of the Ladin names for the region. I'll find Markussep's citations and add them to the page. Yup, assuming good faith! :) Anyway, again really happy to have a neutral admin such as yourself watching things. Taalo 22:01, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Regarding the citation, I'm doing that right now. Quite disappointed at this behavior. : \ Taalo 22:22, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Regarding the move. Well, the poll for Bozen-Bolzano to Bozen was actually 9 support, 2 oppose. It wasn't perfect consensus, but it was pretty darn close. I actually prefer Bolzano-Bozen above all, because that is what I usually see on signs in the province. However, Gryffindor simply moving the page out of the blue like this just seems pretty flat out wrong. Taalo 22:32, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

AWB Updater

Hey, Get your AWB SVN Version updated and have a look :P

Reedy Boy 23:43, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Just commited a version that works. Currently setup to download from my local webserver, with the file link and the filename manually entered

But tested working from the SF Servers, just a bit slower than a local http server ;)

Just need a way to pass it the parameters of the filename and the filepath!!

Reedy Boy 00:37, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing typo's on Ravenloft (D&D module)

Just wanted to say thanks. These are exactly the type of errors that I particularly have problems seeing on something I have worked so long on. They are things easy to spot on somethign you are reading for the first time, but not somethign you have already read dozens of times. Appreciate the imput. -Waza 22:08, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

My Bot

Hey! I made a bot request here. I know that you'r e good at AWB, so would you find checking it out? I'm pretty sure this request would be useful because as of this moment, there are over 8,000 unsubsted user warnings! Thanks! --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@ 00:12, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the approval. However, could you also approve me on the AWB page, as I'm not an admin. --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@ 00:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
As I've never had a bot before, how many edits should a trial be? (Please reply here). --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@ 00:27, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
About 100 should be fine. —METS501 (talk) 00:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
I also saw another user whose bot's talkpage said the bot will stop if you post here. He was using AWB. Is that automatic, or do I have to enable it somehow? Thanks! --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@ 00:30, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
If you're using AWB, the bot will stop automatically when the bot's talk page is edited. —METS501 (talk) 00:31, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't know if you're still in. But if you are, can you check the bots contributions. It would be nice to get it approved now so I could keep it running all night. Thanks for all your help. --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@ 02:00, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
OK, looks good. Keep an eye out for the next version of AWB. When you download it, then you can just run general fixes on the talk pages and the templates will automatically be substituted :-). Just keep running the bot overnight, and I'll formally approve it tomorrow morning. —METS501 (talk) 02:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Since right now, it's not flagged and will appear in recent changes, at what rate should I set it to for the night? --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@ 02:29, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
I've filed a request for a flag. You should have it in soon (or maybe a few hours). You might as well run it at about 4 edits/min for now until flagged. —METS501 (talk) 02:35, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Hairy Pom (cocktail)

I noticed you deleted my Hairy Pom (cocktail) page that I added because you didnt find me to be a notable expert on the subject of alcoholic beverages. How does a new drink get added to the list of cocktails if they are simply deleted when some admin decides the drink is not credible? Do you know of another name for a Pomegranate and Vodka cocktail?

I just want to clarify: it was not that I didn't consider you notable, but I didn't consider the cocktail notable. If you can find references for the article based on multiple, non-trivial sources, the article can definitely stay. See Wikipedia:Attribution for more information. Thanks. —METS501 (talk) 01:06, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

ok, I think I've really had my fill... :(

[44][45] Taalo 23:37, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

  • thanks, i replied on my talk page. Taalo 01:45, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Migrate my archive? (again)

Hi, I know you said you'd have your bot work on my request, and I don't mean to pester you. I just wanted to be sure you didn't forget, that's all. Thanks again. —Mira 01:25, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Nope, don't worry; I didn't forget :-) —METS501 (talk) 01:29, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Heh, don't mind me, I'm a little forgetful myself, so I just worry that everyone else is like me. :) —Mira 01:43, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
All userboxes moved to User:UBX's space, now the bot is updating transclusions. —METS501 (talk) 02:23, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Great. I noticed when I was cleaning all those boxes out of my watchlist that there's at least one odd one: {{User:UBX/DEUTSCH}} (moved to User:UBX/DEUTSCH) is actually just a redirect to Wikipedia:Userbox migration/Userbox. So transclusions should probably be pointed there. I'll let you know if I find another odd one. —Mira 02:27, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh, OK. The bot run is fully automatic, so for now I'll have it migrate it to User:UBX/DEUTSCH and maybe afterwards I'll bypass the redirect. —METS501 (talk) 02:29, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Sorry about that. I suppose I should have checked first. —Mira 02:32, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
No problem. Just to fill you in, the bot says that the estimated finish time is around 3/20/2007 3:27:23 EST, which would be 3/20/2007 07:27:23 UTC. —METS501 (talk) 02:40, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Neat that it tells you when it'll be done. Thanks for telling me. I did find one other odd one, though. User:UBX/knight redirects to User:Nouly/Userboxes/User knight. And do you think you could migrate User:MiraLuka/Userboxes/Nav as well? —Mira 02:57, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, it looks like your bot has stopped. I'm not sure if it finished, though, because my name change seems to have gone through around the same time. One thing I do know is that all the userbox pages got moved to my new namespace, so now there are twice as many pages to delete. :( —Mira 06:49, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, it was done migrating as far as it knew, but unfortunately the name change really screwed everything up :-) I'm going to school now, I'll be home later today and will try and fix the rest. —METS501 (talk) 11:06, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Sorry to make you do work :-). Do you mind going through the templates listed at Special:Prefixindex/User:MiraLuka/Userboxes/ and marking all of them with no more transclusions for deletion? Thanks. It should be most of them, and at that point it will be much easier for me to see what work I have left. If you could also do the same for Special:Prefixindex/User:Mira/Userboxes/, that would be great. Thanks! (you should do the first ones first because they redirect to the second ones) —METS501 (talk) 21:58, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Certainly. I was just going to ask you what I could do to help. It might take a little while for me to get to them, though, I'm just about to call home. —Mira 22:04, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Barnstars

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
is awarded to MetsBot for constantly substituting templates and many other countless things. Bushcarrot (Talk·Guestbook) 02:03, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


The da Vinci Barnstar
is awarded to Mets501 for creating such a useful bot! Thanks (even though I prefer the Orioles)! Bushcarrot (Talk·Guestbook) 02:03, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


Thank you!

Thank you for replacing my userboxes to the correct userbox! Thank you, very appreciated.

User:Factual80man

MetsBot making a bad conversion

MetsBot keeps changing Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:MiraLuka/Userboxes/User onemanonewoman. The thing is, this page only contains a link to the user box page, so it shouldn't be replacing it with transclusion even if it wasn't the MfD. Since it is the MfD, it's doubly problematic. I reverted the bot twice, but I suspect this isn't the only MfD page it's changed. —Doug Bell talk 16:35, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Is it possible to automaticaly mark all MfD pages as bot-denied? Newyorkbrad 17:13, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Sorry about that. I already have my bot ignore all TfD pages; I forgot about MfD pages. My apologizes. —METS501 (talk) 18:25, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Related userboxen?

It would make sense to move a few or all of my boxes to go along with Mira's archive, as they are related. Could you set your bot to do this? - (), 21:15, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! - (), 00:36, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

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Betacommand

All hell has broken loose at User talk:Betacommand and WP:AN or WP:ANI (I forget which), and it seems to be about the link removal task he's just been approved for. He was removing Google links, despite my pointing out to him that Google is an official interwiki link. The result was that citations to newsgroup postings were being zapped (hardly the most reliable source, but that's not the point). Also, he was doing it under his own account not the bot's, which was presumably a mistake.

I thought that the approval came a bit quick as he hadn't adequately answered my question about how he was deciding what was spam or not. Either way, I think we should withdraw task approval or risk having egg on our collective faces; he can always reapply when the process has been streamlined and has community approval.

In Beta's defence he did clean up the mess; this isn't about censure but about recognising that we've got a bot approval wrong. Agree or not? --kingboyk 22:30, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Spelian

Would you mind having a look at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Spelian? --kingboyk 00:46, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I declined the application, having just realised he's a newbie I gave a conditional approval to, added to your comment that the spell checking isn't ready for automated use. Is that OK? --kingboyk 01:14, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Sounds good. —METS501 (talk) 01:14, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Betacommandbot 3

Um, I don't see where the request was withdrawn by betacommand. From what I see Tawker approved it. Can you explain the reasoning behind denying it? Thanks. (please reply on my talk page) —— Eagle101 Need help? 00:49, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Due to the huge controversy surrounding Betacommand's removal of external links, I have withdrawn the approval for his bot. I've edited the request to make it clear that I am withdrawing the approval; he is not withdrawing the request. —METS501 (talk) 00:54, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Errm, I don't think this bot is the same thing. I don't understand how the two are related. Why the backlash (as in removing approval for unrelated task)? As far as I understand this bot only edits under WP:WPSPAM space ('WP:WPSPAM/Something'), and is totally unrelated to removal of links. —— Eagle101 Need help? 00:57, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, clearly he was doing it an automated fashion, and it leaves us looking incompetent if we allow it to continue. Let the dust settle and he can reapply. He should consider himself lucky that's the only consequence, really. --kingboyk 01:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
I see what you're saying. For me, I have serious issues understanding Betacommand when he writes, and it looks like that task is open ended, almost to the point of "can I do whatever I want with regards to spam?". I don't think it's a good idea to have him be able to do whatever he wants with regards to spam as of now with the whole controversy. If he wants to do any more specific tasks, he can request them again, hopefully trying to write clearer. —METS501 (talk) 01:08, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Seconded. The point is that WP:BAG needs to appear decisive and on top of the game; whether or not this approval was specifically about what Beta was doing doesn't really matter. It's all part of the same process, a process which the community isn't happy about. As I said, let the dust settle and it can be revisited. For now it's game over. --kingboyk 01:12, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Kingboyk, yeah I remember the old way we did this, before bag, and I don't recall any serious issues with that way myself. ;). —— Eagle101 Need help? 01:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Ok, there is a clone bot named Vulpinebot, that is running the same task. The task is simply keeping track of links that are checked by anti-spam members. The bot only edits under WP:SPAM space. Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/VixDaemon 4 is the clone. If the bot operator is not betacommand, is the bot idea acceptable. (it seems to have been determined as that on the original BRFA). —— Eagle101 Need help? 01:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Heh. Mets, it's your talk page :) --kingboyk 01:12, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
The original idea was acceptable, but what was the new request for? —METS501 (talk) 01:15, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/VixDaemon 4 is to do the original idea, all edits restrained to WP:WPSPAM space. Only difference is the bot operator. I re-iterate the bot does not edit out of WP:WPSPAM space, and its task does not expand beyond that. —— Eagle101 Need help? 01:18, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
I have dropped a message to that bot operator about this thread. —— Eagle101 Need help? 01:20, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Have I explained the tasking well enough? It was already approved once :) —— Eagle101 Need help? 01:27, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I wrote a long reply here, but I'm gonna summarise: come back tommorow or when the dust has settled. --kingboyk 01:39, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Thats fine, but I still think this action is a little err... punitive? Regardless its not my bot, so I'm sure betacommand will figure it out :) Though I'm going to be bluntly honest, I fail to see the relevance between what betacommand did today, and this bot request. The bot in the request never did remove any links. In either case I am going to go work on cppwiki (C++ wiki framework), so we can make some C++ bots! —— Eagle101 Need help? 01:42, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Don't worry. We're technology fans or we wouldn't be on BAG. Tommorow's a new day and we can start again; for now, beta overstepped the mark, his proposal shouldn't have been approved so quickly in the first place; and we have a duty to listen to the community. Punitive? Perhaps, but it wasn't meant to be. Damage limitation was more like it. See you tommorow :) --kingboyk 01:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I got an edit conflict. Probably there's no connection at all between what beta did today and the other bot requests. It is however evening or night in the northern hemisphere and I'm off to bed, so let's sort it out tommorow :) Good luck with the programming. --kingboyk 01:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Why is BAG involved in this? BCbot's third task is purely a statical and record keeping task. BCbot had no part in link removal and wont until a BRFA goes up for that. I left the exact details of the stats out because we are still figuring out what we need as far as stats. as I said before it only edits sub pages. if you want i can give you the code. I think this action was made in bad faith as it has no relation to my personal actions. you should reconsider your choice as that task has been operational for several weeks and there have been ZERO issues. Betacommand (talkcontribsBot) 02:22, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
You can certainly disagree with the merits of Mets501's decision if you wish (I don't have a view one way or the other), but to say it was made "in bad faith" is uncivil and not appropriate. Newyorkbrad 02:39, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
OK, but what exactly was that request for? That is, what new was being requested in that task? I will reverse my withdrawal if you can let me know. To respond to your other question about the involvement of the BAG, the bot approvals group is generally responsible for the bots that are currently running on Wikipedia. They do more than approvals, so the name is really misleading. If there are serious bot problems, the blame partly goes to the person who approved the bot. —METS501 (talk) 02:27, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Right, but there are no serious bot problems with that particular tasking. As beta said, there have been 0 complaints. (I'm back as winsock is annoying me :), can't wait to be back on linux. ) —— Eagle101 Need help? 02:46, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Kyra's bot is just a clone because I have internet connection issues (my default connection is 26.4kbs) and hosting a bot on that connection is not a easy task. in regard to what the origional request was as doing linksearches of identified possible spam tracking those linksearch results on a subpage and maintaining that data. that is what is currently operational. I left the exact stats from the task as I was/am hoping to develope other stats also and wanted to be able to incorperate the stats in WP:WPSPAM subpages also without having to file more BRFA's BCbot's task is limited to data collection and recording. Kyra's bot is the exact same but hosted on a better internet connection Betacommand (talkcontribsBot) 02:45, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
So if I'm understanding correctly, the new bot request was just to add more data to the spam recording page? What kind of data would that be? —METS501 (talk) 02:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Actually BCbot has no approval for any of the spam pages. I have been running the bot while awaiting approval. I am asking for that approval. the only other data that might be used it already gets would be just tracking the reports better and figuring out what the data it has means. but as that hasn't been coded Ill settle for getting the current code up. and file a new BRFA for new stats when they arise. Betacommand (talkcontribsBot) 02:54, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
As far as I understand the tasking, it is the whole idea of the statistics to start with. He has just been running the bot in test mode for quite a while with no complaints. —— Eagle101 Need help? 02:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot deflagging

I still have open questions in the above section, but see Wikipedia:Bureaucrats'_noticeboard#Another_bot_deflagging. It looks like Betacommandbot has been deflagged as a result of your removal of approval for that tasking. Did you intend to unapprove all of Betacommandbot's tasks? Clarification on that issue would be nice. Thanks. —— Eagle101 Need help? 17:59, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

For you

The Userbox Thank You Box
This Userbox Thank You Box goes to Mets501 for the quick, efficient and effective migration of all userboxes and directory pages formerly at MiraLuka to UBX. Thank you very much for your help. —Mira 23:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
And this is for MetsBot. :)
And this is for MetsBot. :)

Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/MetsBot 2

Whatever happened to that? Abandoned? --kingboyk 01:24, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I was thinking of having my plugin add {{Db-botnomain}} to orphaned talk pages it finds. As it does WikiProject tagging false positives should be less. However, there's no point wasting my time. What do you think? Just forget it? --kingboyk 15:48, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

talkpage substitutions

Would it be possible to mark those minor to avoid the orange bar of death? Agathoclea 08:24, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Ocobot

has posted diffs and needs a response. --kingboyk 00:32, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Move tab

You know I never saw that before, now I can easily move userboxes but not only that rearrage my userspace (which I had been putting off because I used to copy and paste). Also, on my talk page did you press the "leave this user a comment" button? I wish users would not do that as it screws up my talk page. Your message should have gone under the userbox section. -PatPeter 17:53, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Automatic Substing

I though you said auto-substing of templates would be in the next version. I guess now you mean the version after the next version. :) --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@ 00:21, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

It should be in the new version. You're editing user talk pages with general fixes on, right? I'm going to investigate now. —METS501 (talk) 03:34, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh. I didn't no that. Let me try. And what templates is AWB programmed to subst? (no need to copy to my talk) --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@ 03:37, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
It substitutes every template in Category:User warning templates as well as all redirects to those templates. You should see the regex I created to do that, it's crazy :-) —METS501 (talk) 03:39, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Simply great! I haven't been doing redirects because it takes too long to make the list and everything.:) --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@ 03:42, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Enjoy! :-) —METS501 (talk) 03:43, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Question:How come the typos have to be refreshed in AWB but the templates in the Cat don't? Also, how come in this diff only one template is substed yet both are in the user warning templates cat?. --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@ 21:16, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
It's actually not loaded live, but hardcoded into AWB, which is why the list doesn't have the be refreshed. And I've fixed the second error already for the next release :-). Also, in the future, those templates will be substituted using Special:ExpandTemplates so that all the parserfunction and parameter junk doesn't show up. —METS501 (talk) 22:51, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
If it's hardcoded, does that mean that any new templates created between versions aren't substed until the next release? --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@ 22:54, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
It does, but it's way too hard to get all the redirects and stuff to templates each time AWB loads. —METS501 (talk) 00:01, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
It does what? --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@ 00:03, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
I does "mean that any new templates created between versions aren't substed until the next release". :-). —METS501 (talk) 00:05, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
I checked out that special page. If you check "remove comments", then it doesn't show the template name in HTML tags, and if you uncheck it, it makes this: <!-- [[uw-vandalism3]]<!-- WARNING: template loop detected --> --> --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@ 23:01, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Good call. In the next version it automatically adds the comment when substituting user talk templates and has a checkbox to optionally add the comment when using the regular "subst: templates" interface. —METS501 (talk) 23:54, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

"You should see the regex I created to do that, it's crazy :-)" - Where am I looking? --kingboyk 23:27, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

It's in parsers.cs. —METS501 (talk) 23:39, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
That'll be string legacyWarnings etc etc then... Ugh! I wonder if, with that many templates involved, it ought to be self-updating i.e. grab it's list of templates from the category? --kingboyk 12:33, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh, I see the same has been suggested above. Never mind. --kingboyk 12:34, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

userspace -> userspace

Regarding User:UBX....Have a look at this edit[46]. 2 problems; "User:UBX" implys that it is more official (why can't you host them on your own account?) and the UBXs were already hosted on a willing user page. There's no reason to move them, and especially not to a specific account for userbox hosting. Scepia 03:56, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

"I didn't want to host the userboxes in subpages of User:Mets501, for various reasons"
Funny, you never mention these "reasons". The least you could do is make User:Mets502 or something, so at least it doesn't encourage people to put userboxes on a seemingly "official" account (User:UBX). I hope Jimbo deletes the account if he sees it; there is no reason to have such a official-sounding name for any account. Should i put up a little "move your userboxes" thing on my page? I'm certainly not leaving Wikipedia any time soon. If Mira is tired of the userboxes, she shouldn't have put them on her account in the 1st place. It is not your job to collect them, it is up to all of us. Thank you. Scepia 04:12, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
I apologize if i was rude. I was not being sarcastic; but recommending a solution that would eliminate any official-sounding account. I am glad to host UBXs on my account, but am opposed to a specific account just for that - guess why? Jimbo's policy. I'm not trying to be brash about policy - it is what it is. Sorry. Scepia 04:42, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
"How would you feel about moving all of the Userboxes that you moved to your userspace to User:UserBox's? McKay 16:06, 5 January 2007 (UTC)"
"Unfortunately, that idea has been vetoed by Jimbo himself. No special purpose accounts for hosting userboxes, it turns out. -GTBacchus(talk) 22:45, 5 January 2007 (UTC)"
Check out discussion here and here. Scepia 05:02, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

AWB Approval

I noticed that you have recently approved a plethora of users for AWB, myself included, yet I did not see my name on the Check Page. can I still download and run AWB?  ~Steptrip You raise me up 16:14, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, by the way, could you raise me up?  ~Steptrip You raise me up 17:29, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the review; I do have VandalProof on my hard disk, but the Anti-vandal tool works more efficiently, so I use the latter.  ~Steptrip You raise me up 18:53, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Reply

You have a reply by e-mail. --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@ 00:30, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

No need to alert me next time, I have outlook which alerts me :-). Thanks though. —METS501 (talk) 01:13, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Checkpage

How come there has to be an admin section on the AWB checkpage. What does letting the software know the user is an admin do? --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@ 00:32, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Admins can delete pages in AWB. —METS501 (talk) 01:11, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
But don't they have a delete tab on the loaded page in the top part anyway? --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@ 01:15, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
You can't navigate in the AWB browser, so you can't press delete. So it's built into AWB. —METS501 (talk) 01:21, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Mets501, I've tried an admin bot in my wiki, but it doesn't work. Any incompatibility between the two roles in AWB? Snowolf (talk) CON COI - 13:16, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Actually, this feature is under development. It was added for IRCMonitor, to restrict simple users from such things as mass reverts and so on. MaxSem 15:26, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Poke

My BRFA thanks Betacommand (talkcontribsBot) 01:06, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

User:UBX/ISP Adelphia

Adelphia was absorbed by Time Warner and Comcast. I am 'formerly' an adelphia user, this morning I am no longer using Adelphia DNS servers, but Comcast ones. Perhaps you could change it to say "this users ISP was formerly known as Adelphia." I miss my old ISP/Cable operator, so If it could turn into a tribute, that'd be neat. --x1987x(talk) 15:39, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

made the title clickable

usage of revert tool

hello there Mets501. I received your message, and as far as I know, I do not remember any Wikipedia rule that states that the revert tool may not be used to what a sysop would consider vandalism or edit-warring. Whether I revert it manually or by tool does not make much of a difference IMO. But if this seems to generate controversy, of which a sysop should abstain, I am willing to revert such edits manually in future, in order to avoid the impression I am abusing the tool. sincerely Gryffindor 20:18, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

AutoWikiBrowser

Hi, Thanks for approving me. Can I asked my questions about AWB if I had any problem with it.--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 02:26, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I downloaded it but when I click on the icon of AutoWikiBrowser encounter with The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000135). --Sa.vakilian(t-c) 02:38, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I downloaded it from another mirror but problem hasn't been solved.--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 02:44, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I answered this on your talk page. MaxSem 05:49, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I've asked you a question on the dev talk page of AWB. --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@ 23:33, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@ 23:41, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

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Is it me, or did you not add this before?

Or did it get removed?


Cheers


Reedy Boy 15:55, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Karate User Box

Hi Mets501. I wondered if you'd mind editing your Karate userbox to contain a picture of someone doing karate rather than taekwondo. All the best, Shinji nishizono 12:54, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

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Ouch

MetsBot seems to have some trouble with < and >. Rendering them as (I guess?) Unicode or something (?) which, obviously, breaks them: Your bot's edit, Me fixing. Just thought I'd give you a heads up ;-) — Deon555talkdesksign here! 23:27, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it's definitely a bug. I've blocked the bot; sorry. Please ensure that {{helpme}} is surrounded by an actual <nowiki></nowiki>, whose <> brackets are not converted into some ASCII(?) code. I'll unblock as soon as you let me know it's fixed. Thanks a lot. Xiner (talk, email) 23:45, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

AWB Problem?

Hello, I'd noticed you had used AWB to substitute the welcome template on User talk:82.163.138.202 - unfortunately, it looks like the program is a little messed up. Somehow it replaced the brackets < > in the nowiki codes around {{helpme}} and ~~~~ with HTML character codes, rendering the tags useless and thereby placing a giant helpme template in the middle of the welcome message. Have you noticed this elsewhere? It seems to be a rather serious problem with the program, so I thought I'd make you aware of it, since I'm not sure who else to report the problem to. Thanks. Hersfold (talk/work) 23:50, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot substituting welcome templates

When MetsBot substitutes a welcome template, e.g. [47], it also has been substituting the {{helpme}} which breaks up the welcome message and leaves a recurring message on the IRC channel. This could either be fixed by changing the template using some noinclude or HTML markup magic, or perhaps something with the bot. —Centrxtalk • 23:59, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Since it works fine if I do a normal substitution like {{subst:welcomespam}} it's probably best to have the bot do that rather than whatever direct substitution it is doing. —Centrxtalk • 00:00, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

From one NYC admin to another, no problem. =P (scurries back within my shell) Xiner (talk, email) 00:32, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

catagories

Hi Mets501, is this something that can be fixed now [48]? thank you. Icsunonove 19:01, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, ok, that makes sense. thank you! Icsunonove 19:09, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

province page

Hi Mets501, one more thing. Could you please keep an eye on or look into what is going on with the Province of Trento move request initiated by Gryffindor? With the individuals who are supporting this move (minus Tridentinus), I smell tit-for-tat behavior (i.e., the ones who fought most against the Trentino-South Tyrol move). An admin blanking an ongoing discussion and then setting up a move request is very dubious in my eyes. Regards, Icsunonove 19:05, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, completely understood. Though it does add something to the process to have someone watch over things and keep people in check. Actually, do you have any recommendations on how we can get this whole thing arbitrated by a neutral party? I still believe everyone has to much bias and baggage at this point. Icsunonove 19:16, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
I will do that. I think the only thing that makes sense for a long-term, and most of all correct, solution is to have truly neutral mediators. thanks. Icsunonove 19:21, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Betacommand

Hello,

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Betacommand. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Betacommand/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Betacommand/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Newyorkbrad 00:28, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Leonhard Euler Assessment

Why did you revert my assessment of Leonhard Euler? I can see no significant contribution he has made to Lutheranism, so why Euler is certainly significant to mathematics, I fail to understand how he is of any specific significance to Lutheranism. An expliantion of your reasoning would be most appreciated. jackturner3 19:27, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

It's OK; these sorts of things do happen. I just through it was rather strange, that's all.jackturner3 19:34, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Way of substing changed?

Was the way AWB auto substs changed in the new version? Something isn't right as you can see on the bug reports page. --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@ 23:57, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Esperanto - better than FA?

This edit made it through 9 months and an FA review before the ultimate fact-checking team noticed a subtle error: the Esperanto wikipedia translation team. It makes me smile. CMummert · talk 00:08, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

BRION

I missed your comment; BRION looks great. Thanks a lot; if you make any more updates, they should be done by 17:00 UTC on Monday. Thanks again. Ral315 » 20:37, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Metsbot

This is a bit odd; no double redirect was fixed, despite the edit summary — there's just an unnecessary change from lower to upper case. --Mel Etitis (Talk) 21:23, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

If you look at the diff more closely, you'll see that the previous revision had an asterisk at the end of the redirect name. A double redirect no less. --kingboyk 22:04, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Ah, yes — my sight's not what it was... --Mel Etitis (Talk) 22:10, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Sorry to hear that :( Anyway, I deleted the old redirect as it wasn't serving much use - it remained from a page move reversion you performed, I believe. Hope that helps. --kingboyk 22:18, 31 March 2007 (UTC) (sorry for butting in Mets, but the "unnecessary change" bit grabbed me as there's a request for case changing on AWB/Feature requests).
No problem, thanks for stepping in in my 4 hour absence :-) —METS501 (talk) 00:06, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit! (never stopped me enjoying it tho) --kingboyk 21:36, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Could your bot redirect links to Wikipedia:Persondata to the target page? Should be deleted as a cross namespace redir. Saves me 10 minutes. Cheers. --kingboyk 21:36, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Cheers man. --kingboyk 21:43, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Um

I think we should leave the Funny DYKs up until noon EST April 1.

Put up the serious stuff afterwards. DS 03:26, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

  • None of them are false. They're all real articles. Plus, we did this last year. Leave them up until noon EST. DS 03:32, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Why is it so important that only new items go there? And are you also going to say that they must go in the order they are in the queue, so it would not even be possible to find humorous new items? —Centrxtalk • 03:41, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

What do you think about someone holding back articles and then posting them right before April 1, just to satisfy this unnecessary rule? —Centrxtalk • 03:43, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

You're right of course that DYK is usually reserved for new articles, but does it hurt to make an exception today (as long as all the information on the Main Page is true, of course)? None of our rules are set in stone, and suspending this one once a year doesn't seem harmful. Canderson7 (talk) 03:55, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Whatever. I give up. Just do whatever. —METS501 (talk) 03:58, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

A bit late now, but I've posted a note about this here. Hope that clarifies my position on this. FWIW, I initially expanded the Serge Voronoff article, considered submitting a DYK, saw the April Fools plans, and decided to wait a bit before doing another expansion (kind of llike the "holding back" that Centrx was talking about). In the end, I didn't get the time to do the later expansion, but luckily, someone else did a major expansion on the article a few days before April 1st. So Serge Voronoff didn't go through the normal DYK nomination process, but I wasn't amused to see someone (you) yanking those items off the main page without first reading around and finding out what was going on. Carcharoth 09:54, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Just a little request

I was wondering if you could transfer the content of "Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Special:Recentchanges" to my user subpage, under "User:AAA!/Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Special:Recentchanges". I just want to preserve it for the BJAODN page. --AAA! (AAAA) 03:40, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Opening Day

After a month of Spring Training, it's finally going to happen tonight. That being said, I'm curious as to whether 501 in your name is random or not. BuickCenturyDriver (Honk, contribs, odometer) 04:11, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I'd suspect you used AOL, since attempting to create a name in use causes the software to add a random three digit number. That being said, would you block User:Mets502 if it was created? BuickCenturyDriver (Honk, contribs, odometer) 01:02, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Did you AGF and allow another account? BuickCenturyDriver (Honk, contribs, odometer) 01:18, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Oh well, I'm sure you're having a good time watching the game, they have a commanding lead. BuickCenturyDriver (Honk, contribs, odometer) 01:29, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Vandalbot

Done as requested. Still, let's have a bit of a laugh every so often, if it blows off a bit of steam and stays out of mainspace. Seraphimblade Talk to me 07:12, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Mail

You've got mail. :) --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@ 16:10, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Edits to Logging

Moved to Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Dev#Logging_tab --kingboyk 20:39, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Mets Channel

I was hoping to see you guys lose tonight (go Yankees!!!), but I've heard you're winning. What channel is the game on tonight? I thought it's usually on 11 but America's Next Top Model is on 11. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TeckWiz (talkcontribs) 01:34, 2 April 2007 (UTC).

Please reply below ;) --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@ 01:34, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
It's on ESPN 2 (channel 29 for me) —METS501 (talk) 01:35, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
If the 5-1 score holds up, then we can say Mets501 could refer to it. BuickCenturyDriver (Honk, contribs, odometer) 02:23, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
lol —METS501 (talk) 02:25, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Blog added

Hi,

your blog should now show up in the aggregator. I notice that you're not providing a filtered feed; please make sure to post only Wikipedia-related materials to the blog (we're trying to keep the Planet very topic focused, since it will include lots of blogs). Thanks for joining; if you like userboxes, there's one at Template:User Planet. ;-) --Eloquence* 04:07, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Please look at this edit for me

...and confirm that it's correct.

The main thing I'm concerned about is that I have the DEFAULTSORT syntax correct. The talk page seems to be sorting under A in Category:WikiProject Afghanistan, not N. Obviously I don't want to release dodgy code in the plugin! :) --kingboyk 20:15, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

T-AA/ST

Hey Mets501, got a quick question. An admin went ahead and pushed forward that group change [49]. I checked out a few pages like Sanzeno and Sarnonico and noticed at the bottom it shows Trentino-South Tyrol in a couple places. I'm not sure how to get these fixed. Did we just accidentally leave these out of the request? thx! Icsunonove 21:11, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh, the categories at the bottom of the page are stub categories, and can be nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion. Would you like to file them? —METS501 (talk) 02:52, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Ah, I didn't even notice the stub too! :-) I was looking at pages like Taio and Sarnonico that have that list at the bottom, where it says Trentino-South Tyrol · Comuni of the Province of Trento and then lists all the towns. I was even just trying to figure out how to fix that one. You see one here too Brenner, Italy. But with the Trentino-South Tyrol · Comuni of South Tyrol Icsunonove 08:24, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

About regex

I have responded on my talk page. If you have any other questions, please ask. GracenotesT § 14:12, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Indeed. The script that I had set up (you can see it in the revision of User:Gracenotes/monobook.js prior to the present one) had an autoconfirm prompt, and I thought of poor Betacommand when I coded it. My apologies with the regex, however... gah, how could I miss that. GracenotesT § 16:19, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Templates to subst:

I have a feeling that the templates to subst automatically doesn't include everything (I'm not talking about newly created templates). I know one that definitely not included is AFDWarningNew. There's others because otherwise my bot wouldn't skip any page because it only check what transcludes from the templates in CAT:UWT. (Respond below) --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@(Lets go Yankees!) 15:55, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I did the best I can trying to make the list. :-) I may have missed a few, (or rather, did missed a few), so anytime you encounter one that doesn't substitute, feel free to let me know and I'll add it. I just added AFDWarningNew to the next release. —METS501 (talk) 16:19, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Using arrow keys and CTRL+V, I just put curly brackets outside of every template in the category. Now I'm going to put the list on a subpage, run my bot on it, and then see which ones weren't substed using "find" Template: . --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@(Lets go Yankees!) 16:58, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Awesome. I think it's the redirects that are the real problem, though. —METS501 (talk) 17:00, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Hmmm....Does AWB not subst on subpages? --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@(Lets go Yankees!) 17:05, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
I don't think it does. Just paste the list over your talk page, and press "reparse" in the context menu of the edit box. Don't press save, and you can see which weren't changed. —METS501 (talk) 17:26, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Duh duh duh duh:
Template:3rr4MrB
Template:3rrblock
Template:3rrMrB
Template:3RRSV
Template:Images on userboxes
Template:Notasocialnetwork
Template:RD removal
Template:Replaceable
Template:Subst
Template:Subst2
Template:Test3articlev
Template:Uw-block1
Template:Uw-block2
Template:Uw-block3
Template:Uw-coi
Template:Uw-copyright
Template:Uw-create1
Template:Uw-create2
Template:Uw-create3
Template:Uw-create4
Template:Uw-date
Template:Uw-editsummary
Template:Uw-lang
Template:Uw-tilde

After running a huge test and find, those need to be added to auto-subst. Thanks! --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@(Lets go Yankees!) 17:29, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Working on it now. I'm trying to fix {{subst}} too, which causes many problems due to the optional substitution methods where "subst" is used as a parameter. —METS501 (talk) 17:52, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
OK, everything's all fixed now. —METS501 (talk) 18:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
So all these templates will be auto-substed in the next release? And what did you mean by "reparse". I couldn't find what you were talk about. --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@(Lets go Yankees!) 18:47, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Reparse (in the right-click, or context, menu of the edit box) will parse the page again (substituting templates, fixing headings, etc.). —METS501 (talk) 19:05, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
What edit box? The editing box that I'm typing this in right now? Still not getting it :) --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@(Lets go Yankees!) 19:12, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
No, the one in AWB. Where you can edit the text when your editing a page in AWB. —METS501 (talk) 19:15, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Oh. I see. I'll do that for now on. Thanks! --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@(Lets go Yankees!) 19:18, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
No, you're not getting it :-) I was just using that for testing; don't worry about pressing reparse just when using AWB regularly. Just forget it :-) —METS501 (talk) 19:22, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Actually, I think I am getting it. :) I pasted that list I had made. Right clicked, hit reparse, and the templates the weren't set to autosubst didn't have subst: or subst=subst: put in front or in back of them. --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@(Lets go Yankees!) 19:30, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Please add Template:uw-ablock when you have time. Thanks! --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@(Lets go Yankees!) 21:07, 3 April 2007 (UTC)


Removing categories from other categories programatically

Do you have the technology to clean up the mess described here? --kingboyk 22:47, 3 April 2007 (UTC) PS Please reply on this page not mine, I have your page watchlisted :)

I responded here. —METS501 (talk) 03:03, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

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The Mets

Looks like they didn't suffer a hangover. A win proved that their defence and pitching will prove their strength. BuickCenturyDriver (Honk, contribs, odometer) 07:47, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

And they're up 5-0 tonight. I am impressed with the pitching and it looks like the team will be very successful. BuickCenturydriver (Honk, contribs) 01:54, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Definitely. I'm looking forward to a great year! —METS501 (talk) 01:59, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Should we hold the next New York meet-up at Shea? Newyorkbrad 02:02, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Are you all from Queens? BuickCenturydriver (Honk, contribs) 02:04, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm in Manhattan. Newyorkbrad 02:06, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Queens for me. —METS501 (talk) 02:07, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Protect-text/es

What is the purpose of this page? This functionality is not enabled on the English Wikipedia. —Centrxtalk • 15:19, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Isn't it enabled? It works for me: set your language preferences in your settings to Spanish, and you'll see the message at MediaWiki:Protect-text/es when you go to protect a page. —METS501 (talk) 15:31, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay, but what's the point of it? Admins on the English Wikipedia all speak English. —Centrxtalk • 20:25, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Ledger lines

I, too, spell "ledger lines" with a D. However, "leger lines" is the standard British spelling. Please don't go around changing it. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style#National_varieties_of_English. —Wahoofive (talk) 17:36, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

AWB CheckPage Approval

diff Why was I not approved? Any suggestions for the future? —cmsJustin (talk|contribs) 19:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

At a guess, you havent got over 500 edits. Get some more edits under your belt, and then try again!! Reedy Boy 20:05, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
I have over 500 edits. I think around 575 actually. —cmsJustin (talk|contribs) 20:56, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
You need to have over 500 mainspace edits. You have 337 as of now. —METS501 (talk) 20:58, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Ohhh Ok. Can you make an exception? I'm trying to automate a few tasks...If not then I'll be back in 163 edits! —cmsJustin (talk|contribs) 01:52, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! —cmsJustin (talk|contribs) 15:37, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Tagging Articles

I am asking you the following question because you mentioned here.

Hi, I was just wondering if you are still able and willing to tag articles? --Parker007 21:51, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm able, but not willing, to tag articles until there's consensus to do so. It doesn't seem like there is at this time. —METS501 (talk) 02:59, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
What about the wikiprojects that have consensus? The Chemicals Wikiproject has been waiting for a long time. They wanted to get many chemical stubs tagged, because there was a continous prodding of articles being done, which had to be undone by the wikiproject team members. The members tried asking Betacommand, but he did not reply, and his bot was doing other stuff like subs't templates etc. So I was wondering, are you willing to tag articles (that means you have to keep your computer on all night for the bot to do its work) if there is a consensus? I can provide you with a file in .xml format of AWB 3.1.3.2 (the new version doesn't save articles when we click save settings) (but this xml file is compatible with the newest version of AWB) which would contain settings and the list of articles to be tagged which skips the talk page if there is already a template by adding {{ in the skip option. Thus only articles that are not tagged will be tagged by the bot. --Parker007 20:02, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
And then there's my plugin which will use regular expressions to avoid double tagging (searching for the template under any name including redirects; recognising both correctly formatted and broken instances) :) --kingboyk 20:13, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Which does a very good job of tagging!! Kingboyk and myself both have bots ok to tag with AWB and his plugin. But if the project doesnt want it, theres no point. Reedy Boy 20:27, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Definitely. Also, such project tagging requests should really be made at Wikipedia:Bot requests. —METS501 (talk) 20:53, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

MetsBot

Jeremy...

You shouldnt really be using metsbot for typo fixing, i know it wont be automated, but it wont show up in recent changes either....

Im presuming accidental editing - forgot to log into this account? ;)

User:ST47/BAG - Some assitance needed


Reedy Boy 21:39, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

For fixing up where I seem to have stopped half way through a bot approval, leaving the archival and listing stages. Quite a bit on my mind at the moment :) Martinp23 21:55, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Rschen7754bot

I have already completed a trial, and this was clearly noted on the request page. Furthermore, I asked for two other tasks to be approved. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 21:56, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

This was in response to your archiving of my bot request today. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 22:02, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
The problem is, there is a huge backload of tasks at USRD that need to get approved that were waiting on that archived request. Such as the delivery of newsletters that are delivered tomorrow.
Quite frankly, the level of bureaucracy at BRFA is disturbing and frustrating, especially for a bot that has been approved by the old bot group and has a bot flag. It can be stated that it would be quicker for me to carry out the tasks manually than to wait for the current BRFA group to slowly agree with my requests. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 22:09, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Templates, etc.

Hey Mets501, thanks for the pointers on the Templates. I got most of them sorted out. One question I have: I'm trying to go through and update the T-AA/ST pages. I go to [50] to help me out. I can't figure out why it shows Ritten and Bolzano, when those pages have no more links to T-ST, but now point to the new T-AA/ST. o_O What is left? thanks Icsunonove 06:48, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

What links here

According to New features, What links here should be sortable by namespace. However, when I click on the link, I don't see the option. Am I missing something? - jc37 08:14, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I think you missed the first sentence of that article: Please keep in mind that features listed here may not be live on the English Wikipedia yet. In other words, they'll be enabled here in a few days. :-) —METS501 (talk) 16:26, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I did, my apologies. Thank you for clarifying. : ) - jc37 19:38, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Unicode problems

Hi - I've put a fix in rev 950, which works well in my tests. Thanks, Martinp23 22:13, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Although the current (release/stable) version doesn't use the ExpandTemplate feature for user warnings automation, it still does (by default) for all substs, so the error could still be prevalent... What do you think? I have no idea how many/few people use the subst feature, but the fact that ExpandTemplate is the default option does concern me. Thanks, Martinp23 22:46, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Links in headings

Just a quick tip: If you put links in headings, like the one here, it can cause certain things to break. Best confine the links to the text. --KSmrqT 06:27, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I heard that once, but I thought it was just an old problem. If it's still a problem, I'll make sure not to do it again :-) If it's really a problem, you may want to bring it up as many pages (such as 1920 in sports) use this extensively. —METS501 (talk) 06:31, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
(I prefer to keep the thread in one place.) So far as I know, some things still break, including things like browsers, which are beyond the control of Wikipedia. The admonition not to put links in headings can still be found here, and also in the main Manual of Style. I have only seen this recently in one mathematics article, E8, and I fixed it. --KSmrqT 08:16, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
OK, no problem :-) —METS501 (talk) 15:56, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

AWB extension proposal

While MaxSem is inactive (I hope it's temporary), I want to know your opinion on my proposal. - VasilievVV 16:17, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure; it's sort of vague what you're saying. Why don't you mention it on the dev talk page, and see what others say there. —METS501 (talk) 16:23, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
If you mean you're a C# expert and you're gonna come tidy up our codebase in line with your proposal, well, that would be interesting. If your proposal means "wouldn't this be cool?" then "yes it would. Next!" :) --kingboyk 16:36, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

More Template Substitution

When you have time, can you add uw-ablock and uw-3rrblock to the templates to subst regex. Also, as I look at the current SVN, it seems uw-coi1 is in it, but not uw-coi. Can you add that also? Thanks! (and if you don't want to be bothered anymore, just tell me and I'll put the templates needed to be added on the bug page instead) --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@(Lets go Yankees!) 23:41, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Great! Also, if you can remember, for all discussions started by me on your user talk, please reply below my comments. All pages I edit are automatically added to my watchlist so I'll see it. Thanks! --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@(Lets go Yankees!) 00:23, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Oh yeah, I forgot again. Sorry :-) —METS501 (talk) 00:25, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Amazing!. Thanks!!! --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@(Lets go Yankees!) 02:13, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
No problem. I'm not positive if it'll be semi- or fully protected; see here. —METS501 (talk) 02:15, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Bot requests

Thanks for catching my mistake and reverting it. I meant only to delete one duplicate section and ended up doing... something else. Anyhow, my apologies. Madman bum and angel 18:31, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

No problem :-) —METS501 (talk) 18:33, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Actually, my edit looks correct (diff). So, how did so many other sections get blanked? Madman bum and angel 18:34, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Ah, it was the one before... something REALLY weird happened. Thanks anyway. Madman bum and angel 18:36, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

E-mail

When you have time, you have an e-mail. --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@(Lets go Yankees!) 01:44, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Help with user boxes

Hi Mets. First of all, make your exams your first priority! This can wait. I appreciate very much the way you set up my user page and need some help. When you're ready, leave a note on my talk page. -- Fyslee/talk 17:25, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Ya que lo escribiste...

Cómo estás practicando para el AP en español, permíteme corregirte un par de cosas en esta página. En lugar de que sea

Usted puede utilizar español en esta página, pero solamente si es necesario, porque no soy fluido en español y ésta es la Wikipedia inglés.

Debería ser:

Usted puede utilizar español en esta página, pero solamente si es necesario, porque no soy fluyente en español y ésta es la Wikipedia en inglés.

La primera corrección es porque "fluido" se pruede traducir como "fluid", pero quieres decir "fluent"; la segunda corrección es que "Wikipedia inglés" no es una manera adecuada de escribir "English Wikipedia". Para ver por qué, escribe esa frase remplazando el texto con "Wikipedia in English"—es una manera completamente correcta de escribir la oración. Sin embargo, "Wikipedia English" no lo es, ni en inglés, ni en castellano.

¡Buena suerte en tus exámenes! Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 08:27, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Article Exclusion: List of Fumblerules

Hiya,

Can you please exclude List of Fumblerules from your bot's search list? The article contains deliberate examples of incorrect grammar which your bot keeps 'correcting'.

Thanks,

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Hi there. I've been looking at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/MetsBot 8, at your AWB account's contributions, and at the categories, as I was trying to check whether the request had been carried out, and I can't find any evidence that the animal categories in questions ever were in the "human" part of the death/birth by year category tree. Strange. Am I missing something? Carcharoth 17:59, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

It turned out that the categories were added by way of a template. It didn't need a bot at all! Unfortunately both Mets and I, 2 experienced users, failed to notice this before the bot application was made! --kingboyk 18:01, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
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Donations to AWB

Hi Mets, Can you change your donation options for the AWB project here?

Thinking if anyone wants to donate, it can be passed onto the wikimedia foundation

Cheers

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Tests

Good luck on your tests. I remember 'em. Studying is awful, but once you're finished its so nice and relaxing. :-) Whenever you get back, there is a >200 backlog in Category:Wikipedia GUS userboxes. --Iamunknown 20:07, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/MetsBot. 71.183.106.162 21:41, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. BTW, would it be possible to design a generalized template for userbox migration from Template:User X --> Wikipedia:WikiProject Y? I don't know what would be necessary for the bot. I found a significant number of those (mostly from the Anime/Manga and Scouting WikiProjects) when I went through all of the userboxen. --Iamunknown 01:13, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Sure. My bot can't parse that template yet, but if you design it, I can probably add functionality for it. 71.183.106.162 01:18, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

MetsBot

Could you please stop your bot from migrating links to userboxes on my talk page? [51] [52]Ashley Y 22:33, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

If you dont let them be migrated, when the template is deleted, your userboxes are going to be broken. It is wikipedia policy to move them from Template: to a userspace, ise User:UBX, like mets is doing :) Reedy Boy 23:10, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
As per WP:UBM Reedy Boy 23:11, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Move request

Hi, since you took a neutral decision some time ago for an article regarding the provice of Bolzano (the move of Meran-Merano to Merano, that is now contested again...), I ask you if you could consider the article about Isarco (now Eisack). The current name is clearly against the naming conventions, because the name that is most commonly used in English is Isarco, as you can quickly see -for example- with these four links: Google: English: Isarco (58100) and Google: English: Eisack (13400), or Google: English: Isarco river (174) and Google: English: Eisack river (38). I don't know how it works in these cases, is it possible to impose the correct name, or, at least, to have a correct poll somehow (in the previous one many of the few users involved were biased)? I didn't start a new move request because the page was moved a few days ago. When you have time! Thanks.--Supparluca 08:34, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

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Hey Mets501. Thanks for coming off your Wikibreak to support my unsuccessful RFA this week under my old name, TeckWiz. Also thanks for helping me with it. I'm now known simply as User:R. I hope to keep helping and improving Wikipedia alongside you. --TeckWiz is now R ParlateContribs@(Let's go Yankees!) 23:29, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

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If, however, you find yourself wanting to play dev for an hour or so, this might interest you and could certainly use your help. I tried to improve your nudge timer but I think I messed it up somewhat ;) --kingboyk 13:59, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

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Your userpage has been vandalized

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pugidsound

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Can I ask is there a WP:ANI policy regarding unresolved issues

Hi Mets501, I've commented in an ANI 2 days ago, the issue went uncommented and went into the archive, I brought it back and since I reposted it another editor has said that they requested for comment on the same user twice before with no one making any comments. I would really, really like to see some comment on the issue. I hope this doesn't come across as canvassing but no one has commented on the issue and I don't want to see it fade away again. It is posted here. MrMacMan Talk 03:29, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

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MediaWiki:Monobook.js versus MediaWiki:Common.js

Hi, I've send this problem to Interiot but I have no answer yet. Maybe I don't bother you.

I use mediawiki 1.6.10 and I try to make titles appear as I type it when I create them. I see that you create a MediaWiki:Common.js (here is one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js; here is another one: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3ACommon.js&diff=89767515&oldid=89724823) where I could find something to allow real title display on the top of every page. I see it work on many wikis but when I try to use it on my mediawiki doesn't work.

I understand that is a problem linked to the file called MediaWiki:Common.js(in 1.9 version) and MediaWiki:Monobook.js(in 1.6.10 version that I use now) in order to use the proper template (e.g. for having this as title test_t we must insert the following code at first line of edit page {{lowercase and underscore|title=test_t}}).

I can use just MediaWiki 1.6.10 because of php 4 ruling on this server so I've tryed to take the "Technical restrictions" title fix form the MediaWiki:Common.js (from here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js) and added to my MediaWiki:Monobook.js but did'n work.

I try to replace entire MediaWiki:Monobook.js with your MediaWiki:Common.js but no results.

Maybe you can tell me something about this versioin of mediawiki to allos real titles work.

Thanks in advance.

Stefan 86.35.136.59 11:58, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm no expert on MediaWiki software history, but there are plenty of reasons why it wouldn't work. New variables get added and some get taken away by default with each new version, so it's possible that it's relying on a non-existent variable in your version. Also, remember that it's linked to the id "RealTitle" which you need in the CSS. —METS501 (talk) 17:00, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks, Mets for reverting vandalism in my user page. (although late) --Meno25 08:50, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect replacement of "Portugese" with "Portuguese"

Hi, this bot replaced the word "Portugese" with "Portuguese" in the article "Richard Hakluyt". Unfortunately, in the context, "Portugese" is correct because that is how the word is spelled in a book title of 1609. How do I stop your bot (or other bots) from trying to "correct" this old-fashioned spelling? Cheers, Jacklee 12:07, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

I wasn't aware that any bot has approval for automated spelling fixes Mets, do you have approval for this? --kingboyk 14:01, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

That was actually all manually done using AWB. I was checking each edit before saving, and I see now why it shouldn't have been changed. Funny, I actually remember seeing all those spelling mistakes in that sentence but I guess it never occurred to me that it was actually supposed to be like that :-) Sorry. —METS501 (talk) 18:05, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
And in the future when I'm doing manually assisted stuff on my bot's account I'll make that clear in the edit summary. —METS501 (talk) 18:07, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
And also if you're curious, this task was prompted by this. —METS501 (talk) 18:10, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Aha - I had looked on Metsbot's requests page, but not the general request page. But if you were doing the changes manually with AWB, should they technically have been Mets501 edits rather than Metsbot edits? (And, most important, shouldn't you be studying? :) ) Newyorkbrad 18:32, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Well, my edits, but on MetsBot's account. I usually just do all repetitive tasks on MetsBot's account, just to separate my "real" contributions from my "fake" ones. —METS501 (talk) 18:37, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
I don't know if there's policy about it, but I'm cringing at the idea of doing manual edits under a bot flag (assuming Metsbot is flagged). Maybe there should also be a "gnome flag" that you could turn on and off? 75.62.6.237 07:56, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Actually, I thought quite the opposite. I'm obviously not vandalizing, so doing these minor, repetitive fixes shouldn't need to flood the recent changes of real content. —METS501 (talk) 18:02, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Righto, fair enough! --kingboyk 18:33, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Maybe you need a third account for these edits. You could call it MetsAWB, or Metsrepetitiveedits, or perhaps MetsEditingWhenPerHisUserpageHeShouldBeStudying. :) Newyorkbrad 18:10, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

I guess if it's made clear in the edit summary that the edits you make manually are not by MetsBot, that's fine. If you don't, that will cause confusion (as it did in this case) because it'll look as if the bot is malfunctioning. Cheers, Jacklee 22:17, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

MetsBot bug

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Image:1,3-Butadiene.png listed for deletion

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Auto Numbered Tables - New Code

How do I propose it? Didn't I just propose it on that Page? I am confused as to how this process works. Please advise. Thanks. (16:58, 12 May 2007 (UTC)) (JosephASpadaro 16:58, 12 May 2007 (UTC))

I guess that Mike Dillon did that after you posted. Is there anything more I need to do? How does this process work, at this point? Thanks. (JosephASpadaro 17:01, 12 May 2007 (UTC))
Hi again. Thanks for your help. WHO monitors whether or not concensus is reached? Me? Or some administrator will do so? And what is "concensus"? People will reply to the post on that page and an Admin will "tally" the votes? Thanks. (JosephASpadaro 17:08, 12 May 2007 (UTC))
Great -- thanks for the info. And good luck on all of your upcoming school / college exams! I remember them well -- and I do not envy you! (JosephASpadaro 18:11, 12 May 2007 (UTC))
Hi, again. It has been a week since I added my proposal about auto-numbering of Tables and Charts. However, no one has added any input, comments, or feedback at all during the entire week. What happens next? Thanks. Please advise. Please see here if you do not recall our previous conversation: User talk: JosephASpadaro ... Thanks.(JosephASpadaro 21:38, 18 May 2007 (UTC))

WT:AWB

Can you see my comment at the bottom there? Does this mean there's a problem? --TeckWiz is now R ParlateContribs@ (Let's go Yankees!) 03:28, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Mathematics CotW

Hey Mets, I am writing you to let you know that the Mathematics Collaboration of the week(soon to "of the month") is getting an overhaul of sorts and I would encourage you to participate in whatever way you can, i.e. nominate an article, contribute to an article, or sign up to be part of the project. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks--Cronholm144 23:33, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

P.S. Congratulations on taking BC Calc a year early, That AP Spanish was quite a pain as well. Good luck with English>

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I want to start out by saying I'm really sorry that this happened - I did my best to stop it, but sadly I have been overruled by 4 people who are obsessed with name changing (regardless of whether or not I agree with them), and there is a new debate on the Yoghurt talk page about the move - I just felt it would be best if most people who had voted in the past knew about this.danielfolsom 00:02, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Ok question

Ok, I have the first bug you mentioned fixed, as soon as you told me :) Bug 3 ( the find and replace thing) is fixed as well. Any suggestions on a method to deal with multiple warnings? Most of the bots I see do the same exact behavior (stacking warnings). Perhaps just not have it drop the message when its on a user page? or perhaps don't drop a message if it finds another message with the same page title mentioned? Whats an acceptable solution to this? —— Eagle101Need help? 02:29, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Just so its clearer I have modified the find and replace thing to only do so *if* its inside of gallary tags, (and the direct find and replace is done only within those tags) everything else now has a specific rule. —— Eagle101Need help? 02:34, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Its going image by image, there is no efficient way to go page by page unfortunately. :( We have fewer non-free images then pages on wikipedia. (though I do have a tool that checks page by page, but its not practical here). —— Eagle101Need help? 23:28, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
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Regarding the revert

I'm not actually obliged to read any message, and I get annoyed when people try to make editorial issues personal. I have the page in question on my watchlist and have already discussed the issue there. I have nothing to say on the matter which can't be said there :) I suppose I ought to use undo or popups when rolling back in a content dispute (and will try to if there's a next time), but the end result would have been the same :) Cheers. --kingboyk 14:42, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

I understand what you're saying, but I might have to disagree with you a bit on the not having to read messages, per Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Betacommand#CommunicationMETS501 (talk) 14:47, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Are you trying to wind me up? You're doing a very good job at it. I'm not obliged to do anything on this site, since I owe it nothing (and give it a lot). I could decide to take my time elsewhere, and may yet do so. I'm not sure what Betacommand's case has to do with me, either. His problems were poor writing, and doing one thing and saying another, not reverting troublemakers with whom he's in discussion in the proper venues already. If I don't want a message on my talk page, I'll revert it, end of story. --kingboyk 14:52, 19 May 2007 (UTC) PS As I'm sure I've told you before, I like to have threads kept together. I have this page on my watchlist so if I message you here please reply to me here :P
You know that I'm not trying to wind you up, and you know I have the highest respect for you and all you do here. I think it would be safer to move on at this point; we both know all that we need to know :-) —METS501 (talk) 15:04, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

MetsBot bug (old?)

I went back and reviewed the archive (11) for the timeframe but didn't see any mention of this. And the above note MetsBot bug isn't quite the same thing as this. The bot changed multiple occurances of &#149; into the "i don't understand this codepoint" box character. Is this bug fixed (since way back in early December? ;-)   Shenme 20:04, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Ah, well, good on both of us then. Thanks! Shenme 03:34, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

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AWB and long pages

Hey [team who shall not be named :)]. I was wondering if it's possible to retrieve every user talk page via Special:All pages, without crashing AWB and causing something like a database lock. --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's go Yankees!) 00:24, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

You could try a database dump, but those are quite out of date. What do you need the huge list for? —METS501 (talk) 00:26, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
I know going through CAT:UWT doesn't catch every page that has an unsubsted template, so I was going to try to go through every page. So this is impossible to do without crashing something? (reply below) --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's go Yankees!) 00:28, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Just make the list from transclusions of the templates you need to substitute. Is there something that won't be caught that way? —METS501 (talk) 00:29, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
That's how I currently make it. However, there's probably some templates that aren't in the category. I just thought though that I could use the list comparer to see which templates are on WP:AWB/UTT, that aren't in CAT:UTM, but I can't make use of it because a lot of them aren't in the cat anymore because they're redirects from old templates. Is there a way to filter out redirects in the comparer? --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's go Yankees!) 01:02, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
I don't think so, no. I wouldn't worry too much about it; the server resources involved in going through each talk page is much worse than leaving 10 unsubstituted templates. —METS501 (talk) 01:20, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Lag-warn-normal

Are you sure this works? With MediaWiki:Longpagewarning, and several others, we had to use separate templates for the #ifexpr to work properly. This may have been fixed in the software, or the {{#expr: may do something? Just wondering if you accounted for this or had any insight. If not, a separate template may be appropriate. —Centrxtalk • 23:50, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I wasn't aware of that problem, but it looks like we won't have to worry about that. See r22310. —METS501 (talk) 00:00, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Acknowledged. —Centrxtalk • 05:26, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Reply to your comment on my talk page

On first glance, it does seem a bit much, huh? However, he had made a few other nonsense articles, and I guess I forgot to warn him for those ones (probably because I wasn't the one that put the speedy tags on the page). If you'd like, I'd be more than happy to switch the warning; it's no big deal. SuperDT 04:50, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

And I shall. Thank you for pointing that out to me :) SuperDT 14:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

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My RfA

Thanks for the comments you left on my RfA. Apparently my prior lack of leaving an edit summary has come back to haunt me in this case, which I am trying to alleviate! Wildthing61476 18:35, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Why

It was an attempt to discourage people by making it pretty out there that it's not appreciated. I figured it might save some grief - but obviously it's brutal to get metrics on it. -- Tawker 04:19, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Two words, Colbert Report -- Tawker 04:22, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

"The" Wikipedia

I noticed your comment about "The" Wikipedia on my RFA page. It has always been unclear to me whether or not "the" is required, and in fact I must admit that I use it inconsistently—sometimes with "the" and sometimes without. I am more inclined to think it should be just Wikipedia without the article. I'm glad you brought it to my attention, though, and I am going to try to remember to omit the article in the future. I do a lot of copy editing in my professional work, so I should be more attentive to things like this. Has this ever been debated anywhere on The Wikipedia pages? ●DanMSTalk 20:42, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

Hi Mets. I'd like to thank you for your terrific nomination of someone called MaxSem:) for adminship. The RfA is closed at 75/0/0 and I'm an admin now. MaxSem 20:55, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Request for Mediation

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Removed example of solvable quintic

Hi there, I know you are right, my English is very bad (even I am trying my best here, believe me) and I am not very good at computers so maybe done something wrong; anyway I think that adding the example of solution of solvable quintic is a good idea; if you feel your English is good, maybe you can pick a time a bit to edit this example in other words? Ideal will be to get at least 3 examples with differeng Galois group, but at least 1 seems a must for me. Sorry for bad English in this message.

Category rename

Thanks for the heads up. -- Psy guy Talk 23:38, 26 May 2007 (UTC)


WP:RFBOT

Your recent bot approvals request has been Speedy. Please see the request page for details. When the bot flag is set it will show up in this log. --ST47Talk 11:58, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

My Rfa

Image:Wiki-thanks.png I just wanted to drop by to thank you for your kind support on my recent Rfa, it succeeded! I hope to live up to your expectations. Oh, and feel completely free to yell at me if I ever screw things up =) Have a great day, and best of luck with the SAT! Take care, PeaceNT 12:10, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

My RFA

Many thanks for your support at my RFA. It ended successfully and I am now a glorified janitor. If I can be of any assistance please don't hesitate to contact me through my talk page. Happy editing! Ocatecir Talk 18:12, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

I just came over an image marked by your bot and then checked and found Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/MetsBot 11. I saw my request being archived from the bot request page earlier this night and thought all chance of getting my request fulfilled was gone. I just had to say thank you. This was great.

An idea for the bot. The images that has not bin confirmed to be in a category or article on commons may have bin added after the bot checked. Maybe the bot can check these images again after a period. And maybe it should list these images somewhere. Maybe at commons?

Again thank you for the great bot work. Rettetast 22:02, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

I am no image expert...(yet). I am still learning. I would believe it is easiest to check the templates, but there is a third option. It could check what license category the image is in. I'll believe the tags would be easier to compare though but but there are probably templates with different names. I don't know how to deal with them.
As for the PD-problem there is probably no legal issues if the images containes that information, but if it was the en-uploader who released the image to PD, I would imagine the upload log should be there so that it is possible to check the license in the future. If its a random image from the us government that the en-uploader found on the net its not necessary with the en-upload log. Rettetast 07:29, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
This image was tagged wrong. It is a PD-image, but the Commons page said GFDL. Rettetast 15:24, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Also check this edit. Rettetast 18:57, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
I just have to say one more time that this bot feature is great and has saved me a lot of time deleting images. There are almost no backlog left at Category:Images with the same name on Wikimedia Commons.
Some more ideas. Could the bot move the nowcommons template to the top of the image description page when reviewing the image. May save some time.
If the bot can't find the image on commons could it check if the ending is not capitalized. I have seen some images with .JPG at en: but .jpg at commons that the bot has. I have also noticed some images with .jpeg on :en which have bin changed to .jpg on commons.
These would just small fixes and there are no rush to get them implemented. Good luck on your SAT-test. Rettetast 21:54, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Bot question

Hiya, thanks for creating the bot, but I had a question. It keeps putting flags on Image:David Perry.jpg, an image that I've moved over to Commons, and would like to get deleted from Wikipedia now. I've tried fixing the image file to address whatever the bot's concerns on, but it's still not happy. Can you please advise what I can add to the Commons page, to get the bot messages to stop? Thanks, Elonka 17:17, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

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user:Sumibot flooding WP

user:Sumibotis making articles on Indian villages (especially of the state AP) which have no notablity. Sad to see Wikipedia being flooded with so many unnotable articles on villages. The number of villages in India run in lakhs. You can't have an article on every village!

And if approve the making of his articles then he should make articles of all the 28 states. --KnowledgeHegemony 11:28, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

MetsBot flagging of Image:FlattenedRoundPills.jpg

I see your bot flagged Image:FlattenedRoundPills.jpg as possibly not meeting the requirements for deletion, but the source info on Commons looks OK to me. What gives? (Please respond by email or on my talk page, as I might miss responses here.) --Slashme 07:53, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

User box

Hey. I see you create a lto of userboxes. I was wondering, could you make me one that says " This user strongly dislikes Rosie O'Donnell".

Thanks if you could,

Politics rule 01:04, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Thanks for responding on my page!

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Request

Hi! I've seen you're pretty good at creating .svg-files. I was wondering if you could create something like this one, but without the clock and with something like this instead. I would be really happy if you could do that. I'm planning to use it with this template. --MrStalker talk 15:26, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

MetsBot - and Sorry

Firstly, sorry for interrupting any prep for the exam you have tomorrow! Secondly, would you mind if I could have a look at the source code for MetsBot, in the interests of creating my own bot. I have no idea where to begin, but I'm trying to look at other bots code to get an idea. I appreciate any help you give. Thanks, Stwalkerster talk review 09:45, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I believe there is no real special source code for MetsBot. User:MetsBot says "This bot runs on the pywikipedia framework for most tasks and AutoWikiBrowser for some." - The pywikipedia framework is freely avaliable [54] and AutoWikiBrowser resides here on WP - WP:AWB. The sources for which, are also avaliable. Reedy Boy 09:47, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Actually, a huge portion of my bot is in C# with the dotnetwikibot framework, which I've updated MetsBot's page to say. I'll email you the code tonight or later today. —METS501 (talk) 11:03, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Stwalkerster talk review 11:06, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
You have to go and show me up dont you Mets ;) Reedy Boy 11:54, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Best of luck!

Good luck on the SAT you're taking tomorrow! (Not that I think you'll need it. ;) ) ~ ΜΛGиυs ΛΠιмυМ ≈ √∞ 01:27, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations on surviving your tests and enjoy your summer!--Cronholm144 07:46, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Picture

How do you put a picture on your userbox?

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MetsBot in regards to Commons Image Tagging

I just wanted to say how immensely helpful MetsBot has been in clearing out image backlogs for images that have been moved to the commons. I have *yet* to see it wrong on an image tag (unless it says X wasn't done, but it's been done since it was tagged), and it's so good, that if MetsBot says it's clear, I don't even question it, I just delete on sight. It's getting so good, that I almost thing you should have it run RFA and let it delete the images itself (although I know people think Adminbots are bad). Thanks again, ^demon[omg plz] 15:32, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks :-) I'd definitely have it run RFA but I think that people would be too paranoid to let it run as an admin. But that's OK :-) I recently added a feature so that MetsBot will recheck problem images two days after tagging to see if it the problems have been fixed, so that should help out too. —METS501 (talk) 15:38, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Sounds even better. The commons ones are the backlogs that aren't necessarily the largest, but do take a long time, just because they require so much checking. You've helped a great deal. Keep up the good work, and if you ever need anything done with templates, just let me know, as that's what ^demonBot2 is approved for. ^demon[omg plz] 15:40, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

Hello Mets501,

Thankyou for voting in my RfA. You will be pleased to know that it has been successful!! Meaning that I, Reedy Boy, am now an English Wikipedia Administrator.

It passed with a suprising 47/0/0, and I really am grateful of all your support, and I hope that I live up to your high expectations!

If there is anything I can do to help you out, please, do not hesitate to contact me!

Yours,
Reedy Boy 16:14, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Talk about History of Automated Adaptive Instruction in Computer Applications

You raised a number of valid complaints on the initial version of this page, and we made changes in response to these complaints. How does it look now? Do you have suggestions for further changes? We are aware that the title is unpleasantly long, but the point is to distinguish this subfield of HCI from a broad, sprawling literature on adaptive instruction that has nothing to do with computer applications. Some of the present paragraphs are rather brief and do not well distinguish what was done in one project versus another, but I think that will solve itself as more people are informed of the existence of this page. -- IH

---

Thanks for your reply. Let me see what content it acquires as a couple of knowledgeable people contribute over the next few weeks (though I will caution them not to add too much since we don't want it to bloat). The non-encyclopedic flavor you mention may reflect the chronologically ordered entries. I just did that because it was an easy way to start, and will provoke experts to add more good information, because people like to set the record straight about who did what first. Once a bit more content and substance is in there, it may be possible and advantageous to reorganize it in a non-chronological fashion, which may help make it more encyclopedia-like.

But to be honest I think the entry on HCI would probably really sprawl if we put this topic in with it, especially since there would be a dozen other subtopic that are equally significant. However, I could imagine a broader entry on "User Interfaces, Adaptive" that might provide a natural home for this and also for other research that involves UIs that adapt to the user rather than trying to teach the user (for example, if you repeatedly hit the wrong command, the adaptive UI may say "would you like us to make a shortcut out of that?" --related to what is being reviewed here, but also different).

Anyway, thanks again for your help--I will keep an eye on this and try to keep it evolving in a useful direction in light of your comments. -- IH

User:UBX/

Hi, I originally prodded this page as it was probably created by mistake, kinda stupid, I should have come to you directly. Anyway, you should perhaps consider putting a redirection to User:UBX and protect the page to prevent more userboxes to be created there by someone not filling the form. -- lucasbfr talk 08:57, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry

Don't worry about being bad. Hey, please could you adopt me? Christine118Maureen 16:21, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

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Auto Numbered Tables - New Code

How do I propose it? Didn't I just propose it on that Page? I am confused as to how this process works. Please advise. Thanks. (16:58, 12 May 2007 (UTC)) (JosephASpadaro 16:58, 12 May 2007 (UTC))

I guess that Mike Dillon did that after you posted. Is there anything more I need to do? How does this process work, at this point? Thanks. (JosephASpadaro 17:01, 12 May 2007 (UTC))
Hi again. Thanks for your help. WHO monitors whether or not concensus is reached? Me? Or some administrator will do so? And what is "concensus"? People will reply to the post on that page and an Admin will "tally" the votes? Thanks. (JosephASpadaro 17:08, 12 May 2007 (UTC))
Great -- thanks for the info. And good luck on all of your upcoming school / college exams! I remember them well -- and I do not envy you! (JosephASpadaro 18:11, 12 May 2007 (UTC))
Hi, again. It has been a week since I added my proposal about auto-numbering of Tables and Charts. However, no one has added any input, comments, or feedback at all during the entire week. What happens next? Thanks. Please advise. Please see here if you do not recall our previous conversation: User talk: JosephASpadaro ... Thanks.(JosephASpadaro 21:38, 18 May 2007 (UTC))
Hi. I mailed you the above post on May 18, but I never heard back from you. I had assumed that you were busy with school, exams, etc. When I checked back on your Talk Page, I noticed that you archived the above thread without replying back to me. If you have a moment at your convenience, please reply to my question. Thanks a lot. (JosephASpadaro 13:14, 5 June 2007 (UTC))
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Meetup

Dear Mets501,

You have either attended or expressed interested in the previous NYC Meetup. I would like to invite you to the First Annual New York Wikipedian Central Park Picnic. R.S.V.P. @ Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC -- Y not? 15:21, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

DeadBot

Which tasks have been approved? All used WP:DEAD, so I am not sure. Do you mean only run the deadlink/redirect remover bot, and not the wikify marking part? Thanks! (Note: In the meantime, I am not running the bot at all. Once I get a clarifcation, I will disable the functionality you want me to.) Matt - TheFearow 21:07, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok, thanks! I'll update the bot and start it running this afternoon (NZST) when I get home. Matt - TheFearow 21:14, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


Deleting question

The deletion of Xinjiang Chalkis Co.Ltd[55] is in question,this company is the second biggest Ketchup producer in the world.--Ksyrie 06:10, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

wait your reply.--Ksyrie 22:36, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
please to restore it,I will add the necessary references.--Ksyrie 04:27, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


Image:TARDIS.jpg

Flicker clearly shows the image as licsenced under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 2.0 not Creative Commons Attribution 2.0.Geni 21:05, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


BRFA

Sorry for bugging you. Could you could do a quick look over on this? I thought it would be quicker then adding the {{BAGAssistanceNeeded}} template to the page. Thank you! --Wikihermit (TalkHermesBot) 23:03, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Image:Siege of Breda.jpg

Hi, your bot MetsBot marked this image as reviewed, "is not in a category or article on Commons". I just added two categories of this image at Commons, may be that template could be removed now. Thanks, Kordas 23:52, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Subst'ing Signatures

Why are you subst'ing signatures that are templates? It mignt be the right thing according to WP:SIG, but have you ever thought that maybe people do it on purpose??? People like me. My Sig is pretty complicated and it looks DISGUSTING in its full form, thats why its A LOT better as a nice, clean, simple template. It also does not prevent you from telling who the writer is since the template its-self is in my name space. Tell me which one you prefer:

 {{User:ChrisDHDR/Sig2}}

OR

 <br><b><span style="background-color: #DFEBFF">— [[Image:Icons-flag-za.png]]<font color="blue">
[[User:ChrisDHDR|ChrisDHDR]][[Image:Icons-flag-fr.png]]<sup> <span class="plainlinks"><font color="002bb8"> 
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ChrisDHDR FøřůM] </font></span> • <span class="plainlinks">
<font color="002bb8"> [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username=ChrisDHDR&site=en.wikipedia.org €D!†$] 
</font></span></sup></font></span></b>

Make up your mind, and think about undoing you automatic edits.
Image:Icons-flag-za.pngChrisDHDRImage:Icons-flag-fr.png FøřůM€D!†$ 16:24, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

You wrote:
Per the developers, who make this site run, the following was added to our signature policy:

Transclusions of templates and parser functions in signatures (like those which appear as {{User:Name/sig}}, for example) are forbidden, because the developers have determined them to be an unnecessary drain on the servers. Transcluded signatures require extra processing--whenever you change your signature source, all talk pages you have posted on must be re-cached.

Signature templates are also vandalism targets, and will be forever, even if the user leaves the project. Simple text signatures, which are stored along with the page content, use no more resources than the comments themselves and avoid these problems.

This cannot be changed: remember that developer statements about technical aspects of the site trump all others. As for the length of your signature, the only thing I can say is that you must remove the images, and should probably consider shortening the code. —METS501 (talk) 16:30, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
P.S. This might be of interest.
I will think about your comments, and surely make some changes.
Image:Icons-flag-za.pngChrisDHDRImage:Icons-flag-fr.png FøřůM€D!†$ 16:38, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Diamond Certification Laboratory of Australia (DCLA)

You deleted Diamond Certification Laboratory of Australia (DCLA),Please explain why since it had all the necessary links and verification.--220.245.190.146 09:56, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

The article had the ring of an advertisement, and the company it probably not notable enough. It also seemed to contain unverifiable claims. —METS501 (talk) 11:05, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks for Wrangell Islands help

So sorry. I just didn't know where to begin.CharlesRobertCountofNesselrode 03:10, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

This move is part of an effort to make it look as if there is a US claim to certain Arctic islands of Russia. The US State Department has made it very clear that "None of the islands or rocks above were included in the U.S. purchase of Alaska from Russia in 1867, and they have never been claimed by the United States, although Americans were involved in the discovery and exploration of some of them." [56] The move of Wrangel Island with one "l" (an island of Russia) to Wrangell Island (Northern) is based on the assertions of a small lobbying group called State Department Watch. These claims, along with the change in spelling, are supported only by this private group, and not backed up by any reliable source. Would you mind helping to undo these unjustified moves? Thanks. --Reuben 16:55, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Autoconfirmed level

You made a post on the mailing list back in January about adding edit count for people to become autoconfirmed. Someone on WT:PROTECT just brought up something like this, so I was wondering if anything ever happened with this (I don't think anything did, but maybe I just missed that). Thanks Mets. -Royalguard11(Talk·Review Me!) 20:14, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

talkarchive templates

I saw that you reverted my change. I did not know that the template was also used outside the user space. I appologize for that. Please have a look at my updated suggestion at Template_talk:Talkarchive#Add_Reference_to_User_and_Link_to_User_Page. Wouldn't that work for all name spaces? Let me know what you think. I don't want to create my own template for this (again), if there should be one template that works for all, that would be the best. Don't you think? Thanks. --roy<sac> Talk! .oOo. 04:51, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

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Why Are You Using My Account?

Why Are You Using My Account?Please Resolve This By 22 June 2007 Paul 1953 11:56, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

IF YOU DON'T RESOLVE THIS,I'M GOING TO COMPLAIN TO THE WIKI AUTHORITIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:( Paul 1953 12:03, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Are you meaning he edited your user page? Reedy Boy 20:58, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Funnly looking kid?

Hi, any chance you can delete this page below. That's my son, and he's rather good looking in my POV opinion.

[[57]]

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Thanks for the help ;-)

Re:Account

I think you got it wrong.My Wiki id is there!It's so confusing.


P.S Maybe I should leave Wikipedia for good.Paul 1953 10:54, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

What is wrong with your bot?

It has reviewed a number of satellite images including in the TC wikiproject, which has appropriate documentation and links where possible, and it appears to be suggestion mass deletions. Do you see anything missing within their documentation (i.e, Image:Levi1997052603GMS5VS.jpg)? I'm going to inform the TC wikiproject that they're about to lose of number of images because of this bot. Thegreatdr 17:29, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

That's good to know...the panic has ended. We've lost a number of images over the past year or two because of bots. I'm very suspicious of them, due to past history. Thegreatdr 17:37, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Metsbot

Why did this mark a lot of my photos as "passing requirements for deletion"? Does this mean they will be deleted or they will not be?Chris Nelson 18:02, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Image:6aznehj.png and kin

I highly object to you "fixing" album covers uploaded by someone who deliberately falsely claimed self authorship of them. If you look at his contribution history he's not just a mis-tagging newbie, they were deliberate. -N 13:24, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry. But actually, was it the edit that was the problem, or the edit summary? Was there something wrong with the edit itself? —METS501 (talk) 19:55, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Nothing was wrong with it, really. The files do qualify as fair use. I was just hoping they'd be deleted so that I could issue the user a copyright warning if they did it again. (Still could I suppose). You did an excellent job writing the fair use summaries. Sorry for pissing at you. -N 20:11, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
It's fine with me :-) Just don't forget: we never want people to do something wrong just to issue warnings and do a "gotcha!" type of block. —METS501 (talk) 20:13, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Deletion criteria question

I've been marking my photos previously uploaded to WP that are now on Commons with {{subst:ncd}}. They have been tagged with "This image does not give credit to uploader Zaui on Commons." First, I'm not sure what this means. The name of the uploader is shown on the image page on Commons, is this what is meant by 'credit'? Second, I uploaded most of them to Commons anyway and my user name (Zaui) is already there. What more is needed? Thanks in advance. — Zaui (talk) 16:39, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Whoops, that's a bug in the bot code. If the same person uploaded it, then there's really no need to give "credit". Thanks for letting me know. —METS501 (talk) 19:56, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Where do I put this userbox?

Hi. What category do you think I should put this userbox in? {{User:Userboxes Only!/Userboxes/Userbox 4}}Userboxes Only! 17:38, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

That userbox would be better without the first sentence. The last is all that's needed.Chris Nelson 17:40, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I did that. No where should it go?Userboxes Only! 19:13, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I would recommend deleting that userbox as it's very divisive. I have no idea what category it should go in. —METS501 (talk) 19:59, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Divisive?Chris Nelson 20:01, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, divisive (divisive = creating dissension or discord) The exact type of userbox that caused so much controversy in the past and doesn't help us get along at all. —METS501 (talk) 20:04, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Well I know what divisive means. I just don't see how the userbox could be controversial, it simply represents a well-known, long-running joke. I should point out that this joke does have it's own Wikipedia article. If the userbox goes, the article would have to go too. (I'd disagree with either move.)Chris Nelson 20:06, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Everyone's entitled to their opinions, and I respect yours. I'm not going to go and delete it out of process, don't worry; I was just mentioning that I thought it was divisive. —METS501 (talk) 20:09, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Hehe, the box gave me a chuckle (I guess too much slashdot reading warps the mind, and I won't even mention 4chan...) Though I can see how it could possibly misunderstood by people who don't know the meme (Hmmm... In soviet russia memes misunderstand you?) 84.145.225.108 01:15, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Re : Your meta edits

Thanks for letting me know. :) - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 11:25, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Possible bot malfunction?

Greetings; MetBot recently tagged Image:Roanhighbluffnorth1.jpg as possibly having an improper license for Commons and thus may not be deleted. Please take a look and see if you can figure out what is wrong with the material, as I cannot see any problems. Cheers! -- Huntster T@C 14:47, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Good timing, I just created a help page for that task :-) See User:MetsBot/Comons tagging. —METS501 (talk) 16:29, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
You mean, User:MetsBot/Commons tagging? Sorry, I'm a spelling nazi ;) In any case, thanks for taking another look at that image. I was scratching my head as to what was wrong! -- Huntster T@C 16:34, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Whoops, thanks for pointing that out! —METS501 (talk) 17:30, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: Wikinews compliment

Thank you for your comment on my wikinewsreports.blogspot story, I'm glad to hear my blog-writing is ok. Feel free to have a look on Wikinews anytime! --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 23:24, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Your Question About The George Foreman Picture

Thanks for deleting that duplicate copy, I didn't mean to do that.

Per your inquiry about the picture, I met him at the Miami Airport and took a picture with him. I edited it to cut myself out. Thanks --Iron Chef 23:45, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Wow! What a great shot! —METS501 (talk) 23:50, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I know its not the best picture for his article, but its better than none right? :) --Iron Chef 23:52, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Image deletion

Hi ^demon; I recommend you don't delete images from here as NowCommons when they are not in a category or article on commons. I could blame this on you being unaware of that rule, but when the message by my bot says it, that excuse isn't as valid anymore :-) —METS501 (talk) 13:30, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about that. ^demon[omg plz] 13:32, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
No problem :-) —METS501 (talk) 13:35, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Bot trial approval

Hola Mets501,

Thanks for approving a trial for my bot request so quickly. A small question: Do I also need to receive approval to use AWB before proceeding with my bot trial? -- TypoBot 21:35, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Gracias.

I just approved you for AWB. :-) You won't have access to the auto-save, but you won't need it for the typo fixing. Also, you should be careful not to edit with your bot's account outside its approved functions (for example, the question that you posted on my talk page should have been done with your account, not your bot's). —METS501 (talk) 21:39, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for addressing the issue of editing with my bot account! I wasn't sure. -- Saaga 21:44, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

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Could you do me a favour?

Regarding this, I'm not on IRC right now so I can't get to anybody else: could you pass the word to the other AWB admins to make sure this guy doesn't get himself into trouble? TIA HAND —Phil | Talk 08:14, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Actually, a good place would be WP:AWB/DEV. I'll post there now. —METS501 (talk) 12:29, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Cheers. Blooming Windows network security, won't let me connect out, Pidgin is baffled. (I think it's because when they fixed my broken machine they gave it a new name—which actually is correct now—and the firewall just doesn't know whoTF I am any more). Between that and having to revert to IE6, I'm well hacked off… HAND —Phil | Talk 12:38, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

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Reverting

Why did you just revert about 15 or so edits by Anchor Link Bot? —METS501 (talk) 14:28, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Because I ran out of time to revert more. I've already sent a message to the bot operator to stop it, since it's free-association style of random comments serves no purpose. Notice that there's links inside comments - these are equally useless to both encyclopedia readers (who won't see the comment) adn editors (who can't follow the link by clicking on it). Stamp out useless bot edits, I say. --Wtshymanski 14:38, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
I think you need to see WP:MOS#Section management. —METS501 (talk) 14:40, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
I've seen it, now I see what Auto Link Bot is trying to do - but it's still a dumb idea even if in the Manual of Style. --Wtshymanski 17:48, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

TypoBot review

I've made the edits you requested for TypoBot's trial run. When you have the time, would you please review the edits and consider the bot for approval? Thanks! -- Saaga 01:10, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the bot approval! I'll make the necessary change regarding Manually assisted in the edit summary. -- Saaga 06:27, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

User:UBX

I noticed a user creating userboxes in the UBX space, particularly User:UBX/Waifs and User:UBX/Waifs2. Is this part of your move or should these be moved to the user's space? --TeaDrinker 01:32, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, but it doesn't bother me at all. It wasn't the intended purpose of the account, but I really have no problems with it. If it bothers you in any way, shape, or form, though, feel free to move them out of User:UBX's space. :-) —METS501 (talk) 01:35, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick attention. I have no problems with the boxes (other than the fair use issue which caught my attention and prompted my edits to them) but I wanted to make sure the location was on the up and up. Keep up the great work, --TeaDrinker 01:39, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks :-) —METS501 (talk) 03:10, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Userpage

Hey Mets, you up for redesigning my userpage? I would like the style to be a combination of Willow's and yours, with navy blue being the prevailing color. Feel free to test out anything you'd like. I will be on wikibreak for the next couple days, and will only be able to log in occasionally. No hurry whatsoever. Cheers and thanks.--Cronholm144 18:39, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

OK, I'll add it to the list :-) I'm going to do User:Reedy Boy's next if he still wants it. —METS501 (talk) 18:59, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Cool, :) talk to you then.--Cronholm144 19:10, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

beauty is in the eye of the beholder

ok, no one seems to agree with using the small tag, fine. :] it just looks quite sloppy having the big text that causes in this case the names to go onto other lines. it is hard to even tell what is what. anyway, while you are at it, could you fix the redirects at Trentino-Upper Adige/South Tyrol and Trentino-Alto Adige/South Tyrol? they are locked down and pointing to the wrong page. cheerio.

No problem. Fixed. —METS501 (talk) 03:05, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

EndUN Userbox

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Salem Userbox Not Working?

{{User:UBX/User Salem Trials Interest}} (user name MBX, box title Salem Trials Interest) Welcome home from your vacation. I tried to use this box on my own user page today, but it kept falling off the right side of the frame (attached at its left edge to whatever box precedes it), unlike all the other boxes there. I don't know if you're the right person to ask, or what could be wrong, or if it is something I can fix by editing the box myself. Any ideas? It seems to be fine here, although it is left-aligned rather than right-aligned, as I would have expected. —— Lisasmall 19:54, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm not exactly sure what was going wrong, but your userpage looks fine now, so I'll assume you've fixed it. —METS501 (talk) 05:00, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

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My RFA

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TTN and AWB

Despite my earlier misgivings of TTN and your warning, TTN is abusing AWB (as predicted) by mass adding notability templates to articles without even reading them. Other editors are complaining about this as well[58]. I ask you to do something about this. -N 18:42, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Mets is on holiday. TTN's AWB access has been removed - [59]. Reedy Boy 18:53, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

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I was wondering why you deleted the entry for Houston Putnam Lowry without notice?

It was not I who deleted the article, but you can see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Houston Putnam Lowry for the deletion debate. —METS501 (talk) 05:01, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

MetsBot and licence templates

Hello, MetsBot is doing a very useful job in regards to images available on Commons. Thank you for running it. It, however, seems to choke on templates such as {{GFDL-with-disclaimers}} and {{GFDL-en}}, saying it can't verify the copyright status. The images seem to be OK otherwise. So, unless I'm missing something, whitelisting these templates could be an improvement. Conscious 14:30, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

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Hey Metz I have a quick question. When you have time, can you give me a brief run through on what you put into cmd.exe or whatever you use to launch your bot when you use C#? Also, could you take some screen shots too please :-)? I'm trying to learn how to get C# bots to launch. I can do it with python, but I can't seem to do it with C#... thanks! ~ Wikihermit 22:28, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Depending on whethers its command line or graphical... I'd presume he'd just have a function called on loading that will do whatever it needs to do... If it was graphical, it would be on the form load, or if it was text based, it would be on the initialise or similar... Reedy Boy 14:44, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
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v4 Release

Me and Steve are thinking we'll release AWB v4 in Beta to all users....

Opinions?

Oh, and welcome back!

Reedy Boy 18:55, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Sure, sounds good to me. I haven't been around, but I'll assume that most of the bugs have been sorted out. I'd go ahead a release it but not make the update mandatory and also include a message that warns against running unassisted bots with the new version in case of undiscovered bugs. We should also make the official title "4.0.0.0 Beta" to make it clear. But how can we indicate the beta in the [assembly: AssemblyVersion("VERSIONHERE")] structure which only takes numbers? —METS501 (talk) 19:08, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Well... 27 outstanding bugs... Nothing really major... Theres been a few people using it, and nothing major has come up, so i think its safe. It must also become 4.0.0.1 - ie as we had put out the v4 as an alpha release thingy. Just to keep it all seperate... We could just put it in the title bar of AWB..? Also, how do we only bug people on v4...? Reedy Boy 19:25, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Oh, can you get on IRC? =) Reedy Boy 19:26, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
[60] - Thanks!! Hahaha, the only bit of the upgrade process that i forgot to change :) Reedy Boy 08:14, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Bot for approval

Ah!! Thanks - I wondered why it had been so quiet on that front! Thanks for sorting that out for me.

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Admin assistance

Hello, have noted you have been familiar with this debate. Could you please keep an eye on Provinces of Italy? The user Rarelibra insists on removing valid references from Encyclopedia Brittanica. He is pushing a convention that knows no English usage and one he backs alone as an editor. He/she is certainly free to have their opinion, however, going and consistently blanking other references from preferred English-based sources in order to push his/her POV is just.. nonsense. thank you. 71.109.183.44 00:41, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi, and thanks for writing. I'm unfortunately not going to step in here; just the fact that I'm an administrator does not give me any editorial privileges, and I don't really have the time and energy to mediate in a conflict like this. If you would like, you can always refer to Wikipedia:Dispute resolution and pick a method from that page. Also, I suggest that you register an account; you'll find you're treated better my many other editors and administrators that way. —METS501 (talk) 03:25, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Ok, will do, and thanks for the reply. Unfortunately this user went ahead again and cleaned out the EB references, put in his own (incorrectly) again trying to push his POV. I was hoping at least an Admin could warn this user to stop blanking out valid, and recently added, references. Isn't this vandalism to continually remove valid references from Wikipedia, without even a reason given?? Sad.. thank you again. 71.109.183.44 05:30, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Like I said, it is wrong to continually remove valid references from Wikipedia, but keep in mind that you're doing the same when you're reverting him, so no one really wins. References can differ in their information too, remember. —METS501 (talk) 12:25, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Infobox parameters

Quick question, I noticed your bot coming in behind mine and making a few minor changes to the paramters of {{Infobox City}}, such as area_total to area_total_km2. Is this a recent change to the template itself, or am I just fantastically stupid and have been doing it wrong all along? Anyway, I'll adjust the bot so it inserts the infobox with the adjusted parameters so you don't have to go clean up behind it.

Feel free to let me know if I do anything else fantastically stupid :) ɑʀкʏɑɴ 23:09, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm actually not sure how new it is, but yes, it's the result of a recent change. It was requested on WP:BOTREQ that a bot go around updating the parameters, so I took the job. I'm sure that when you wrote your bot code the infobox was the old way, so don't worry, you haven't been doing anything fantastically stupid :-) —METS501 (talk) 03:01, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Arkyan, the changes to Infobox City (aka Infobox Settlement) were done many months ago. Another editor said they were working on a bot and could incorporate the parameter name changes into their bot. Their bot never came online so I asked if someone else's bot could handle it. A full explanation table of all the parameters is viewable at {{Infobox Settlement}}.
Mets, Is the bot done doing its thing? —MJCdetroit 12:02, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Yep :-) And I've done the protected pages on my main account, so now it's really all done. —METS501 (talk) 12:34, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, Now I'll work on removing the deprecated names from the code. —MJCdetroit 12:52, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
For some strange reason the bot missed about 5 pages. In any case, I fixed them. —MJCdetroit 14:33, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Hmm, I suppose I should be keeping a closer eye on the bot-related pages :) I'm fixing the code now so that it no longer uses the deprecated parameter names. Thanks for letting me know. ɑʀкʏɑɴ 16:54, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

MetsBot functionality

Please ensure that your bot is functioning in article mainspace, and not userspace as it did with User:SwissCelt/Youngstown. Thank you. -- SwissCelt 20:42, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry for editing if you don't want bots editing your userspace, but for a task such as the one my bot was performing, if the bot had not made the edit, the infobox would have stopped working on all the pages the bot skipped, so therefore I deemed it appropriate to edit all occurances of the infobox, no matter what namespace they were in. —METS501 (talk) 21:06, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Bot problem

Your bot tagged Image:USA-Kulwicki Grandstand.jpg ready for deletion after it been had marked as now commons only 2 days after it was tagged, opposed to the 7 days in the criteria. --Michael Greiner 15:16, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm...I actually didn't think of that. Maybe I'll have my bot notify the uploaders to bypass the 7-day requirement. —METS501 (talk) 15:21, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

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My userbox

Sarcasticidealist reffered you to me. He said you might be able to help me with my userbox; {{User:Lighthead/Photek}}. I was trying to post it onto the listing of userboxes under musical artists, but the page went all sorts of wonky. I was wondering if you knew what that was about or if you recommend I tweak the code on the listing (in terms of my own userbox, not anybody elses). Well anyway, I'm open to anything. Like I was telling him I was going (n)fucking (f)nuts. Thanks so much. þ 06:29, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

I've fixed the userbox and added it to the main directory. I'd like to add though, please fix your signature so you aren't double-posting on all talk pages. It's also common courtesy to have your username in your signature, instead of just a symbol. —METS501 (talk) 18:39, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

-- Will do, sorry about that. Lighthead 19:20, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

-- So what was wrong with the userbox. Like that I know what to do or what not to do in the future. Lighthead 19:58, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

I uploaded an image onto the Commons

How do I use an image I uploaded onto the Commons? I tried to put it on one of my userpages subpage but nothing comes up. Could you tell me what code to put. Thanks, oh and thanks by the way for helping me with my userbox. Lighthead 19:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Just use it like you would any other image. You uploaded Image:West apex 1.JPG to commons, so to use it here just use the code [[Image:West apex 1.JPG]]. —METS501 (talk) 19:38, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

-- Thanks, I think it's cause I put jpeg in lowercase. But the weird thing is that it worked for me before...oh well. Lighthead 19:43, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Tag that your bot left at Image:Hebridesmap.png

I am the author in question, and I have taken care of the concern that the bot expressed. Have a look under Licensing. The image may now, I think, be deleted from WP. Kelisi 21:04, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

I asked somebody else this question

I asked somebody else this question, but they appear to not be online; anyway here's the question, it's regarding an image I have on wikipedia called Bison running.jpg: How do I send Bison running to the Commons? Do I need to have deleted the Wikipedia version and then make a separate one there. Lighthead 21:33, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi; please see Wikipedia:Moving images to the Commons for help moving images to commons. —METS501 (talk) 22:38, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

AWB IW list load from internet

rev 1513

Done! :)

Just need someone to properly update the IW lists.

Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/IW

Reedy Boy 15:57, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Awesome :-) —METS501 (talk) 22:56, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
Now all fully updated - [61]. And as a side affect, AWB will now import/export article lists as CSV ;). Reedy Boy 20:16, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Now they are. I didnt alpha sort the InterwikiAlpha/InterwikiAlphaEnFirst - DUH!! Reedy Boy 20:51, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
rev 1536 - AWB now just loads the 2 lists, and alpha sorts and changes the arrays to make the other 2 lists. Reedy Boy 21:50, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: Canvassing

Hello.

Apologies on my behalf, I didn't realise that notifying people who have significant interest/contributions the article in question at AfD (a mere 3 posts in all from me) qualified as canvassing or spamming.

I'll be mindful to be wary of your hideously low threshold for this in future. Regards, Liverpool Scouse 00:06, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

  • I'm always mindful of being civil - please understand I'm not trying ot be deliberately obtuse here. Whilst there may have been slight bias involved in one or two of the edits, agreed, I don't think that 3 edits constituted being "on a scale that exceeds that of ordinary interpersonal correspondence" (to quote WP:CANVASS), considering those involved were those who I have regularly discussed the article in question with. It's my opinion that the canvassing policy was created to prevent much more direct canvassing and spamming on a much grander scale than my 3 edits. However, that's [i]my[/i] opinion and as you're ultimately the admin here I guess we can just agree to disagree and I'll take your request/warning on board of course. Liverpool Scouse 00:16, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
  • It's no problem, I can see why such messages are left of course, as canvassing of enough people can skew AfD debates such that they don't present a true representation of the community view. This one isn't such a major issue either way really so I'll hold my hand up to being a bit too defensive at first. Your good nature is appreciated! Liverpool Scouse 00:24, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

"How is that vandalism?"

The user was adding specific birthdates for characters, which the shows have never given. You have to read the talk page and the edit history. There have been other IPs doing this recently as well. I blocked him for the usual 24 hours. Daniel Case 00:48, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Spurios VS/AWB Error

Hey Mets, Were you getting a spurious error regarding loggingsettings1 and something to do with serialisation last night?

I was... But i dont know if my pc was just being painful as it was getting too warm, it did freeze twice...

Reedy Boy 09:08, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I've been getting that on and off for a couple of days when editing AWB, seemingly for no reason. —METS501 (talk) 12:35, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Hmm... I just get in VS before i build AWB... Must be a reason for it... Reedy Boy 17:49, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
By "editing AWB" I meant editing the source code :-) —METS501 (talk) 19:47, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
So its not just me.

Culprit code i think prefs.LogCategoryName = ((MainForm)ParentForm).LoggingCategoryTextBox.Text;

((MainForm)ParentForm).LoggingCategoryTextBox.Text = prefs.LogCategoryName;


That would possible fit the bill.... Reedy Boy 21:07, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

FYI, i've just commented that out in my version for the moment ;). Not commited to SVN tho Reedy Boy 21:47, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
And it solved the problem? Awesome —METS501 (talk) 21:49, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Seems to, aye. Just it *is* needed by the logging tab - ie if your using $Category.. Really needs moving onto the logging tab... Reedy Boy 21:52, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Moving the control won't help (although is desirable from an aesthetics point of view) :) Also, please don't comment that out and forget it - it needs to be fixed not removed. Perhaps a try catch would help? Do they work at design time? I think they do... No idea why's that happening though, haven't experienced it myself, and don't have time to investigate right now sorry. --kingboyk 10:36, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
It was more of a temporary fix so i could develop without the errors - Hence not commiting it. The errors comething from the Cast bit (MainForm)ParentForm - so moving onto the control would solve the issue, but i know what you mean. Reedy Bot 18:58, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
If you get chance Mets, you could see if you could move the category text box from below the edit summary box onto the logging control and fix those lines ;) Reedy Boy 21:17, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Alright, I think I've got it. Can one of you check out rev 1521 and make sure it still works correctly, since it's pretty hard to check when I don't know really what the category box is supposed to do in the first place. :-) —METS501 (talk) 02:14, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Looks fine to me :) Reedy Boy 19:21, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Bot request for Infobox City Japan

Hi Mets501,

Do you think that you could have your bot switch some paramter names in an infobox like it did with Infobox Settlement (but on a smaller scale)?

For {{Infobox City Japan}}, I need to have the following fields switched {{{Area}}}-->{{{Area_km2}}} and {{{Density}}} to {{{Density_km2}}}. There are about 400 pages that transclude the template, so it should be fairly quick work for your bot.

Let me know if you can full this request. Thanks, MJCdetroit 18:15, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

So its just a basic Find and Replace? Reedy Boy 18:50, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Yep. I'm doing it now. —METS501 (talk) 19:53, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Many thanks, MJCdetroit 20:14, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Y DoneMETS501 (talk) 20:42, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

AWB Auto Shutdown Computer after Auto Bot Job finish

rev 1518

Another new feature for AWB. Its under development :). Shouldnt need too much more input to get it finished!!

Reedy Boy 21:45, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Wow, that's cool! Never thought of that one. —METS501 (talk) 21:46, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, i thought it was a good idea. Useful if users just set auto bot runs going overnight and such, and just want the pc turning off when its done :). Feel free to tweak and play around with it when im done (unless its designer tweaks in Main.cs). OH - And i had to delete that image for the moment from the bot tab. If you can get it resized, change it in the resources, feel free to re-add it. I removed it as i couldnt resize it, but it looked good :). Reedy Boy 21:49, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
:-) —METS501 (talk) 21:59, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
rev 1523 - Nearly done! Reedy Boy 20:12, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
rev 1524 - Done i think.. Reedy Boy 20:56, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Oh, and your bot image is now back in ;) Reedy Boy 17:21, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Huh? Still not?

Don't know what the bots problem is with this image Image:Smith Caughey's Building Queen Street.jpg. It does not recognise the fact that the Commons version exists and ist the same. Ingolfson 05:27, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

It was because the apostrophe in the name was not handled correctly by the bot. I'm going to fix it now :-) Thanks for reporting. —METS501 (talk) 12:48, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

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Metsbot seems unable to detect Image:85' Cadillac Convertible (30)b.jpg and Image:85' Cadillac Convertible (2)b.jpg on Commons, even though both images exist in Commons. Also, could you check if I did the Commons process correctly for Image:20070429 LaGraveField 002.JPG as the bot has rejected the description/licensing. It is a long time since I last {{nowcommons}} something. - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 18:08, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

With regard to the two images that you first mentioned, they have an apostrophe which which throwing off the bot (a bug which has now been fixed). As far as the other image, keep in mind that it's very important to the licensing and source information be preserved when moving to Commons, so if the bot is at all unsure, it says MetsBot was unable to determine if this image has proper license and/or source information on Commons. It doesn't necessarily mean something is wrong (in this case, everything looks good), but something about it made the bot unsure, so it said so :-) —METS501 (talk) 18:15, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Actually, upon investigation, it looks like the cause of the message was the bot not knowing what {{User:Louis reed/Image Copyright}} was in the source code. —METS501 (talk) 18:16, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Ah, I see. Thanks for explaining. - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 18:19, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

IRC

Can you get on IRC atm?

If so, please do

Reedy Boy 20:21, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I was out. Was it anything urgent? —METS501 (talk) 03:10, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Building AWB without Visual C++

Im right in thinking you dont have VS pro/whatever... How do you build AWB?

As ive had User:OsamaK asking me

Cheers

Reedy Boy 23:13, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Yep, you're right :-). Checkout the latest SVN revision and download the most current release. Place the wikidiff2.dll file from the latest release into the AWB\AWB\bin\Debug and AWB\AWB\bin\Release folders. Then load Visual C# and load the project file "AutoWikiBrowser no-Wikidiff". Then compile normally. —METS501 (talk) 03:10, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, Where is "AWB\AWB\bin\Release" I find "AWB\AWB\bin\Debug" only. --OsamaK 14:24, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Don't be sorry :-) First you have to go to "build" -> "build solution" in VC# and let it fail, and you will find the directory's magically created. —METS501 (talk) 15:18, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of Cherax image

I have requested Image:Australian_Cherax.jpg be deleted from Wikipedia as I have uploaded it to Commons. Because my user name is different on commons to wikipedia it says that I have not been credited with uploading the image. Can you help sort out this problem please. TIA Macr237 08:49, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

I've just added your English Wikipedia username to the commons page. It's always safer, since you never know if it's actually the same person or not, even if the person uploads to commons saying it is their own image. —METS501 (talk) 15:20, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

New York meet-up

I hope you had a good weekend ... but you definitely missed a great time at the meet-up this afternoon. Hope you can make the next one. Regards, Newyorkbrad 01:58, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Damn, I really wanted to go :-( I had a great time visiting colleges though! —METS501 (talk) 02:07, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
Too bad the Mets blew a 5 point lead to lose 7-10 tonight. VoltronForce 03:45, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Re:special handling for Personendaten template

Have i missed a commit?

Reedy Boy 21:39, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I think rev 1517 covered it. The one where you wrote "Complete the easy ones now wont you mets ;)". Remember? :-) —METS501 (talk) 23:11, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

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Bot commons tagging problem

Hi there - first time I've tagged an image on the basis that it's on Commons (having moved it to Commons myself, using the same file name) and your very handy bot says that the Commons image has a different name. Doesn't appear to be an apostrophe or anything similar to puzzle it, though. Image in question is Image:Jesus2ndQuad.JPG. If you get a chance to look at this and tell me if I've made a mistake, I'd be grateful. Regards, BencherliteTalk 01:01, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

The only mistake you made was the template (this edit fixed it), well, MetsBot can tell us if you made other mistakes when it rechecks the image :-) The bot sort of freaked out when it saw the malformed template, and spurted out a random message. I'm putting it protection against that now. Thanks for letting me know about the bug! —METS501 (talk) 01:50, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
Hmm, not sure what happened there - I checked at WP:CSD, saw that the template was {{nowcommons}}; so I typed that and was told to subst it and use {{ncd}} or {{ncd|filename}}, and I did the latter. Perhaps the confusion was caused because I added the filename unnecessarily when it was the same on commons and WP. Delighted to be another bug-finder for you; I will now go to bed and think of lots of ways of confusing your poor bot! Thanks for tidying up after me. BencherliteTalk 01:59, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
Well, that works now, doesn't it? Well done! BencherliteTalk 02:13, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
Haha, thanks :-) Yep, it seems to work. —METS501 (talk) 02:14, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

MetsBot

I just wanted to let you know that MetsBot does an excellent job. It helps me out a lot when moving images to Commons. Happy editing! --Boricuaeddie 01:04, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks :-) Happy editing to you too! —METS501 (talk) 01:50, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Your major controbutins/aritclas made section

Im pretty sure you said you italicised the ones you created but anyway i felt it was hard to read in italsied i think you should make them a differnt color for those who dont have the best vision. kkthxbye(ForeverDEAD 05:49, 19 August 2007 (UTC))

OK, I'll try that. —METS501 (talk) 23:45, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

MetsBot mistake

MetsBot appears to have made a mistake. It claims that Image:Cycle graph C4.png was uploaded to Commons with a different name, but that isn't the case. --Sopoforic 01:22, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Ah, it's the underscore that's doing it. Fixed now. Thanks for letting me know. —METS501 (talk) 05:24, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Re:Test in AWB Menu

No real purpose, just enabled on debug mode - I found it useful for testing stuff ;)

No worries!

Reedy Boy 14:01, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Great :-) Feel like taking a look at Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Dev#On_the_topic_of_speed...? —METS501 (talk) 14:05, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

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rev 1588

We've got the Size, Position, and anchors of the edit box to deal with....

See Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Dev#Expand_edit_box

That does them all (not completely successfully) with the exception of position...

Reedy Boy 19:26, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Think ive done it! Reedy Boy 20:14, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Looks good! —METS501 (talk) 01:57, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Anoneditwarning

Hello. I've re-added the div tag per a talk request. On most other MediaWiki pages for anons, I would definitely agree that it would be unnecessary to have. However, this particular message shows up on top of the edit box for all anon users, and though they can't have MediaWiki CSS, they can have client-side versions, which they might customize using this tag, especially if they edit Wikipedia a lot anonymously. Like I said, most anon-specific pages it wouldn't matter, but I think that in this case, there's a likelihood of anons wanting to hide this via CSS using Opera or an extension because it shows up every time they go to edit a page. Cheers. --MZMcBride 20:00, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

For that matter, who said anything about hiding it? Suppose I'm making a new skin for Wikipedia, which I want to upload to http://userstyles.org/ so that others can use it (so whether I'm a registered user or not, I'd want it to look good to everyone). I might want to, say, put a box round this message and change the font size, so it fits with the rest of the skin. This is impossible without the id attribute, as there's no way to refer to the message using CSS. Anyway, it's good practise to name distinct parts of the document like this, even if one doesn't see an immediate need to refer to them individually – to be honest, all the interface messages should have ids (well, except the ones that render as plain text...) -- 81.155.69.74 21:48, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
OK, sorry about that. I'll admit: I didn't really think it through. Both of you are right. —METS501 (talk) 01:58, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Strange Thing

Someone just made a subpage on your other account: User:UBX/Back To The Future. -WarthogDemon 05:02, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know :-) I usually allow other pages to be created there, but that wasn't a userbox, just a line of text, so I deleted it. —METS501 (talk) 12:31, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

MetsBot

Hi! Would be great if the bot, when checking if an image has correctly been transferred to Commons for deletion here, could leave a DIFFERENT edit summary when he noted some problem. I don't believe it does it now. Would help. Cheers! Ingolfson 08:08, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Good idea! I'll implement it now. —METS501 (talk) 12:32, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

WP:VPR censorship

You apparently find my use of sarcasm not to your taste. I find your censorship not to my taste; I have never censored another editor's comments because I didn't like their tone, and I don't intend to start. I thought that broadening the discussion was a good idea. If you go to the discussion I mentioned, you will see that the proposals are pretty much the way I described them. If you don't like their politics, and are still in a censoring mood, have at it. Chris the speller 23:33, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

If you wish to advertise or gain more opinions on a certain discussion, please do so in a responsible way. Beginning a post

Let's all go over to Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)#Metric/SI only and punish the Americans for using pounds, feet, miles and acres, by making many Wikipedia articles difficult for them to use and understand.

is never a good idea. Feel free to add back a link to the discussion in a neutral and not sarcastic way. —METS501 (talk) 23:38, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Metsbot

I'm not familiar with Metsbot, and I had a question. Metsbot recently reviewed the deletion requirements for Image:You have new messages.png, which I have reuploaded into the Commons, and Metsbot said it may not be sourced properly. When will I know if it was or not, and who does this review, an administrator? — Moe ε 00:39, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

And since I reuploaded the image, I was wondering if I could revert your bots review and let it review it again. — Moe ε 00:43, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi Moe: MetsBot is very over-cautious when determining whether the license and source information is good on Commons, as it is done completely automatically, and if it is not 100% positive, it reports that it cannot determine whether it is good. I'm not sure what in this case, but something about the image description on Commons or here caused it to not be sure one way or another. The ultimate decision will be made by an administrator, and in this case, it looks like it's good. Nothing to worry about :-) And certainly, you can definitely revert the bot's edit and have it re-review tomorrow. —METS501 (talk) 01:23, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Actually, after looking at it again, it seems like it was the {{CopyrightByWikimedia}} and {{wikipedia-screenshot}} templates that caused the mixup. The bot wasn't able to determine if they were equivalent. —METS501 (talk) 01:24, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Yeh, I ran a Commons helper tool and I discovered that the Wikipedia screenshot template was there, which I didn't think it was before. I gues that cuased the mix-up. I will take your advice and let it re-review it tomorrow. Thank you for your help! :) — Moe ε 01:47, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Common.js

I have reverted your change to common.js. The purpose of the sitenotice is not to be pretty but rather to convey important sitewide information; causing this not to display on the main page removes it from the most prominent page on the site, which is counterproductive.

If you notice a particular version of the site notice displaying improperly, please either say so or fix it. If you simply don't like it and don't wish to view it yourself, please suppress it in your own user settings. However, suppressing display on the main page cripples its purpose and removes it from view of many who ought to see it. It is for the informational benefit of readers and anything displayed there is probably something that ought to be spread as widely as possible, and aesthetic concerns should serve that purpose, not defeat it. Thanks, Kat Walsh (spill your mind?) 05:58, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi Kat. Sorry about the edit; I guess you're right, I took the easy route out and just removed it instead of actually fixing it. You have a good point. Thanks for fixing the Anonnotice so it doesn't overlap the main page. —METS501 (talk) 12:35, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for that. I'd like it to look nice (or at least not terrible) also! Kat Walsh (spill your mind?) 20:03, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

BRFA Templates

Hi Mets, I know your fairly template/parser savvy.. So could you have a look at something for me

In ST47's BAG bot report thingy, (T|C|B|F) links are pointing to the wrong place - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ReedyBot_2&action=edit

Rather than say http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Reedy_Bot

The other links are wrong too...

Any chance you could try and find out whats up?

Cheers!


Reedy Boy 12:53, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, that's weird. Looks like a bot bug and not a template problem to me. I tried this and this; let's hope that fixes things. —METS501 (talk) 13:23, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
I think martinp23 tried that yesterday. {{BRFA}} also transcludes {{botlinks}}... God knows!! Reedy Boy 14:11, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

IRC

#wikipedia-BAG :-). ~ Wikihermit 20:02, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

MetsBot

Hi, I understand way this did not work. Could you please delete the following Image:Abergavenny castle.jpg which I origianly uploaded under the wrong place name. Oh and also Image:49 parellel waterton.png which I uploaded again as jpg

Traveler100 09:51, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Y DoneMETS501 (talk) 14:30, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Your MediaWiki updates

You did two of them today for files. There is a problem with that. It has disabled scripts like Twinkle that assist deletion. Will it be possible to undo this? --Maxim(talk) 22:09, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Not the cause. Maxim(talk) 22:16, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, they were added by developers; I just copy-pasted our current system messages customizing them a bit for media files. —METS501 (talk) 03:47, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Metsbot again :)

Hey Mets. Technically the images Metsbot approves as confirmed to be properly moved over to Commons is acceptable to be deleted per CSD I8, right? Why doesn't Metsbot tag it with {{db-i8}} so an administrator can review it faster? — Moe ε 05:01, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I would, but often images that MetsBot says are ready for deletion haven't been tagged for at least a week, so I don't want to get in trouble tagging them all as db-i8. No one ever objects if they've been deleted quicker, but I don't want any admins blindly deleting them and then blaming the bot :-) 12.40.142.130 (Mets501 from public wifi) 15:14, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
Thats true, I don't want to get your bot in trouble :) — Moe ε 18:10, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Metsbot making errors on artist's infoboxes

Hi, I have noticed that metsbot has made some errors on artists' infoboxes when the bot is migrating them to the new infobox style. Basically it leaves a "}}" in the middle of the new infoboxes it creates and so causes a piece of that infobox to be displayed in the main article. I have fixed it's mistake in two band pages, check the history of From Autumn to Ashes and Godhead. I don't know if this has happened in other artist pages, apparently it only happens on some. Hopefully it will be fixed soon. -SaberBlaze 03:18, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

The run was just a one-time thing, so it's too late to fix bugs :-) That was caused by an uncommon syntax that the bot was not prepared for, so I doubt it happened to too many (if any) more pages. Thanks for fixing it though! —METS501 (talk) 03:48, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for the reply, I checked the contribs of the bot and yes, did notice the same problem on some of my randomly selected band pages, however, hopefully whoever edits those and other band pages will fix that mistake because checking every band page on wikipedia is very time consuming. Keep up the good work. —SaberBlaze 04:31, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Please Help

Hi Mets501, please, please help key an eye on Province of Bolzano-Bozen. We had a great group of editors finally move this page to the multilingual provincial name, as cited in Brittanica (!!). Gryffindor is now having a hissy fit and saying this is the work of some "Italian" sham vote. [62] Gryffindor is going back and reverting edits in mass [63]. I've personally had enough of Gryffindor's abuses on Wikipedia. Please give advice on how we can have him investigated for the Administrative abuses he has been guilty of since 2005. Icsunonove 05:08, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi Icsunonove. Unfortunately, I don't see an end to this debate if all the parties continue battling it out the way they are now, so I recommend that you and the other parties in the dispute participate in one of Wikipedia's method of dispute resolution. I can't remember, have you tried formal or informal methods of dispute resolution in the past? If you have, let me know, and I'll recommend a good place to go next. —METS501 (talk) 15:23, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

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Out of curiosity...

What was wrong with this? [64] Gopher backer 04:03, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I concur. I don't want MetsBot to change the usage of the convert-template. Please stop immediately, or refer to a discussion where consesus was reached on this issue. --Berland 04:53, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
OK, don't worry, I've stopped for now until we can come to an agreement (a.k.a. I can convince you :-)). The reason is purely technical: {{convert}} is a huge waste of resources: to make the document parser load such a huge template and convert the units every time is simply absurd. See also [65] (Templates were never intended to be a programming language, but #expr was intended for unit conversion. You just need to make one small template for each conversion, instead of merging them all together with a huge #switch. --Developer Tim Starling) and [66] (Substitution...makes page rendering easier and therefore faster for the server [and helps to] stay under the pre-expand include size maximum of 2,048,000 bytes.). In my personal tests, pages with 50 instances of the {{convert}} template loaded almost 10 times slower than the same pages with all the instances substituted. —METS501 (talk) 05:39, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for taking a break so soon. I totally understand that this puts extra load on the Wikipedia servers and increases response time, however, having a template to do the conversion makes the source code so much more readable, and also allows for future layout changes in a single place (but you probably knew that). Also, most of the pages I edit only contain one or two convert-templates, and I can probably personally cope with those extra milliseconds. What about converting to using the specific meter to feet template? That would be in line with what Tim Sterling says. Also, your substitutions done by your bot is not equivalent to subst:convert, for example, the wikilinks on the units are missing. --Berland 05:51, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
I would argue against saying that it makes the source code more readable to newbies, because most of them are unfamiliar with Wikipedia template syntax, but that matter is up to consideration. The bot is using Special:Expandtemplates, so there should be absolutely no visible change in the page after the bot substitutes it (if you found an example of a visible change, then there's a bug somewhere, can you point to an example?). I'm going to sleep now; I'll respond to the rest of your message tomorrow morning. (I won't start up the bot either, don't worry :-)). —METS501 (talk) 05:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Okay, no bug, it was just a bug in the initial usage of a convert-temrplate in a diff I was reading. --Berland 06:14, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
I can understand that. I mainly started using the convert template becuase I saw it in Climate of India. That article was promoted to FA a few months ago and was featured on the front page recently, I just checked, and convert is used 55 times in that article, and from what I've seen nobody ever mentioned it as a negative. Is this a larger issue that needs to be addressed globally? Gopher backer 05:55, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
I agree that this shouldn't be substituted, especially not en masse by bot without consensus. The bot's userpage claims that it only substs templates listed at Wikipedia:Template_substitution#Templates_that_should_be_substituted, but convert is not listed there. The div in the subst'ed version also makes the wikitext bloated and impossible to read or edit, and previous discussion opposed subst'ing it. But in any case this should be brought up and a consensus reached to list the template at Wikipedia:Template_substitution#Templates_that_should_be_substituted before any bot-subst'ing is done. --Delirium 06:21, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

You should not substitute templates whose implementation could change, for example, I was going to suggest a change to {{Unit acre}} to change the secondary unit from ha to km², however such a change will have no effect on many articles now that you have substituted the instances of {{Unit acre}}.

I have been maintaining the {{Unit *}} templates. A number of them to use {{convert}} internally to simplify the implementation, however if there is a real performance issue I can change them perform a simple multiplication instead. If this is done I suspect substitution would not be necessary. I'm not convinced it is necessary keeping in mind WP:PERF. Are tests with 50 instances of a template really indicative of a noticeable delay for readers? PatLeahy (talk) 06:53, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps if American users agreed to use the same units as the rest of the world, we wouldn't need a convert templates at all :-)) Seriously though, I would not object if the policy was to use miles, gallons, farenheit, etc. exclusively in articles on US things; and use kilometres, litres, centigrade, etc. in all other articles. Astronaut 09:14, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
I've just taken a look at some other Wikipedias, and use of unit conversion usually appears to be restricted to the English Wikipedia. Perhaps we should consider if an article like Climate of India really needs to provide temperatures in Farenheit or rainfall in inches, or if it is necessary for the Burj Dubai article to provide the building's ever changing height in feet. No matter what is decided, I agree with the sentiments expressed by Delirium, that unit conversion templates "shouldn't be substituted, especially not en masse by bot without consensus". Astronaut 09:28, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm unhappy about either (1) the ability of the template to handle ranges, the hyphenation of value and unit when attributive (as required by MOS), and singular/plural of units as required, or (2) the ability of editors to use it to display properly WRT these issues. One of the two is causing difficulties. Until these are ironed out, I don't like the template. Tony 10:45, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Given this response, I'm obviously stopping the bot for now. I'm sorry to have gone ahead and done something which I mistakenly judged to be uncontroversial; I'll have to remember to be more careful with issues such as this one in the future. For that I ask all of your apologies. To demonstrate my loading time comparison, however, try to load a page with the convert template many times vs the same page with all of the instances substituted. I think you'll see what I'm talking about. We should definitely do something about it. —METS501 (talk) 12:02, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

This is not a test of real readers' experiences since it by passes the cache (i.e. action=purge). I also suspect most articles have far less that 50 convert templates. We should not make changes to articles to solve theoretical performance problems. -- PatLeahy (talk) 17:17, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Hi, you indicated on 31 August 2007 that you were stopping the conversion of Unit templates. Yet I see that on 1 October 2007 the bot converted the Unit templates in the Akhurian River‎ article. I wouldn't mind so much, but the bot introduced span style="white-space:nowrap" etc. which unnecessarily complicated the page. Did you get the go ahead to restart on the Unit templates in some other place? --Bejnar 21:47, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
    • I think that you may be incorrectly reading the history. This was the bot's edit, which was in fact on 31 August. I haven't restarted it since then. —METS501 (talk) 23:00, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

The tyranny of the bots must end!

I'm currently trying to get the guys at convert template to stop it nowrapping between expressions. MetsBot nowraps the whole thing, too. I wish it wouldn't. Also, what if the poor editor wants to change the value after some bot has marched in and established its arbitrary authoritarian regime? The bots are taking over. Humans unite! Kill all bots! Well, OK, restrain some of them, anyway.

If the convert template is so bad, why is it still around? --Milkbreath 11:01, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Question

In this diff how is the convert template more bloated that what it was replaced with? Both are obtuse, but the stuff MetsBot is adding seems pure gibberish to this non-programmer. --W.marsh 12:11, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Despite my comments a few inches (few centimetres :-)) above, I understand the problem exists because {{convert|...}} tries to do all kinds of conversions, it expands out into lots of code for each usage of the template during the page rendering process. There is a limit to how big this code can get and lots of code takes longer to render. Can I suggest that smaller, simpler templates be created (eg. one for metres-to-feet, another for feet-to-metres, yet another for miles-to-kilometres, etc.) and then MetsBot can come along and change {{convert|...}} to use one of the smaller templates. Astronaut 13:26, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
I know this really isn't the place to debate such things (and I'd suggest moving the rest of the discussion to Template talk:Convert), but thought I'd comment anyway...rather than one for each, how about as a compromise one template for each type of conversion...ie distance, volume, etc? AKRadeckiSpeaketh 15:14, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Templates for doing particular conversions do exist at Category:Unit display. Currently some of them use {{Convert}} internally but they could be changed to do a simple multiplication. -- PatLeahy (talk) 17:28, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Convert template

Why is your bot removing this template? According to your bot's page, your bot is approved to removed templates that are being deleted, and templates that should be subst'd...this is neither. Have you ever considered that maybe the template is actually being used for a reason? I've reverted your bot's change to Cedar Fire. I always appreciate bot's doing the drudgery work around here, but please have it stick to the work it's supposed to be doing, rather than work not it its scope. Never mind...I see from above that you've stopped the bot. Thanks. I understand that heavy use of the template, like in your example slows things down a bit, but use of the template that many times is a bit unrealistic, don't you think? I tried it on a page only the template twice and I couldn't tell the difference. Oh, and thanks for actually apologizing...I've had other instances where bots had run amok and the owners merely got defensive...in one case I had to even threaten to block the bot. So, your civility is a bit of fresh air for a bot owner. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 13:02, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Hey, bots bot owners are people too! Newyorkbrad 18:23, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

For creating the Italo disco article at the Spanish Wikipedia. Bolt 18:07, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Ningún problema :-) Estoy aprendiendo español; espero que mi español no es demasiado malo. —METS501 (talk) 18:10, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
You're going well, yuo just need a little more practice. Otherwise you're okay. --Bolt 00:35, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Whoops, I missed the "o" in "malo" above. That was a typo :-) —METS501 (talk) 02:23, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/SkiersBot

Greetings! Trial run has been completed - fixed the "subpage" issue as well. Hope this passes the muster ;) SkierRMH 20:09, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Converstion templates

What is the reasoning behind the replacement of various conversion templates such as {{Ft to m}} and {{convert}} by MetsBot?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 21:52, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Please see above discussions. Thanks. —METS501 (talk) 02:23, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

SkiersBot

Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/SkiersBot

Are non BAG allowed to approve bots..?

Reedy Boy 10:22, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

No, but he was on the BAG when he made the edit :-) —METS501 (talk) 16:23, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Bot subst'ing conversion templates / Cleanup needed

Information in {{infobox lake}} started being more standardized until you started substituting the templates. Please revert your changes. -- User:Docu

Is it really that bad that all of them related to the {{infobox lake}} need to be reverted? I remind you, it didn't change the way the article is displayed, only the code. But alas, if you really think it is crucial that I revert it, I will go go through the edits and revert all of them related to {{infobox lake}}. —METS501 (talk) 18:31, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Re-block vandal?

69.209.106.115 is at it again. Eleland 22:06, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Y DoneMETS501 (talk) 22:14, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

"MetsBot was unable to determine..."

With regards to "MetsBot was unable to determine if this image has proper license and/or source information on Commons" -- I'm wondering just which licenses MetsBot is willing to accept? I've tried:

GFDL-user-w|name
self|GFDL|cc-by-3.0
cc-by-3.0
cc-by-sa-2.5
self|GFDL|cc-by-sa-2.5

Thanks. Enigma3542002 23:24, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

In this case, it didn't have to do with the license, but with the source. MetsBot was unsure if the source information on commons was in accord with the source information from here. —METS501 (talk) 23:32, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the explanation. I suppose if the bot gave a different message for license problems vs. source info problems, that would help clarify things. Anyhow, thanks for the assistance. Enigma3542002 23:43, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Common.js

Could you de-link give the gift of knowledge from MediaWiki:Common.js? That FoundationWiki page was for a specific fundraiser. I would do it myself, but I'm afraid I'll break something. Thanks :) --mav 06:08, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Sure, no problem. Y Done. —METS501 (talk) 06:12, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Common.js changes

Greetings. Kat asked me to look at your Common.js changes. Your current code will produce an out-of-bounds array index in the very rare but completely possible event that the random value is 1.0. You'll need to fix that or you'll generate errors for clients every once in a great while. You should also get an account on test.wikipedia.org or setup a local mediawiki instance so you can try our your JS changes before you put them live, otherwise you'll someday manage to make the site inaccessible. ;) We run a local MW instance here for this purpose. --Gmaxwell 06:21, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Ah, it appears that I was incorrect and that the javascript math.random() function is incorrectly documented on most of the internet. It will not produce a 1, so the current code is fine. My apologies. --Gmaxwell 06:29, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
OK, I'll set up an account. Thanks :-) —METS501 (talk) 06:30, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Images page

Greetings your edit conflicted with a rather extensive one by me which was converting all the external links to internal links or pipelinked external links. :) Can you explain the reasoning behind using non-pipelined bare external links? some of the links need to be renamed in order to make sense ... --Gmaxwell 00:36, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi. I was actually doing it because of a comment which Erik Möller left on the WP:10T page, which was <!-- This list should be in an easy format for copy and paste, and all significant topics should be externally linked to. -->. You should probably ask him for more details; I was just blindly following him :-) —METS501 (talk) 00:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Hm. I figured that is was to make it easier to copy but I doubt that people are as likely to do it with the images page as the general 10 things page. hmm.. In any case, without the HR the first image butts right into the shortcut box and looks stupid. I'd actually prefer we remove the shortcut box, but I figured someone would insist that we keep it. Ideas? I suppose we could just insert some breaks under the intro.. but I thought I did that already and they were removed.--Gmaxwell 01:28, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, that was me that removed them, since I didn't really see the point, but I won't really object if you add them back. —METS501 (talk) 01:03, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Normally we have a section heading breaking the intro from the body of our pages. On this page we have nothing serving the purpose, so unless something is done the top looks very crowded and the image butts into the box. I'm game for other ideas about how to improve it, however.--Gmaxwell 01:28, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

JS again

Well.. looks like we found a reason not to rewrite innerHTML: It was breaking the radio button magic on the history page, I assume because it invalidated any dom objects that the script there had picked up. I used my testwiki to make sure that the innerHTML rewriting was the cause of the issue before asking ST47 to remove it. We should be able to use dom methods to insert the tags into the right places. I toyed around with doing that the last time I used innerHTML, but realize that for the donation notice I could just use document.write and call it done. If you don't figure it out before this evening I'll try to figure out a solution. --Gmaxwell 17:02, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Hmm...you're right. If it's isn't too illegal, we can do this (it works on both Firefox and IE for me)
What do you think? —METS501 (talk) 21:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for the delay. It passed my testing, and clearly doesn't produce the same problem. Conceptually it sems safe to me.. there is nothing important in that div, so I'd say go ahead and put in your change. Remember to take out the static notice.--Gmaxwell 22:16, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Alright, Y Done. Let's see what complaints come this time :-) —METS501 (talk) 01:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Hm. On the line where the educational message is appended the spaces should be non-breaking between the bullets and the message text text. The 'have questions' on is wrapping for me. --Gmaxwell 19:11, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

OK, no problem. Y Done. —METS501 (talk) 20:42, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Respect MetsBot

When Moving Image to Commons Image:Population_density_impgazind1909.jpg, the MetsBot review say:

"MetsBot has reviewed this image and it may not pass the requirements for deletion. (what does this mean?): This image does not give credit to uploader Fowler&fowler on Commons."

See on commons that image give credit to uploader Fowler&fowler. MetsBot failed.

Thanks, Shooke 02:33, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it's a bug with handling the & character in usernames. Thanks for letting me know. —METS501 (talk) 20:38, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

AWB Checkpage

Hey there! I noticed you were an AWB Developer, and I was wondering if you'd be able to take a look at the Requests for Approval page, as there's a bit of a backlog there. Cheers, Arky ¡Hablar! 00:19, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Sure. Y DoneMETS501 (talk) 00:54, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks much! Arky ¡Hablar! 19:58, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

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Do you know of any way to browse recently edited articles for misspelled words, rather than google search on AWB for them? If not, is there a way i can request someone to try and make that? Ctjf83 03:26, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

If you turn RegexTypoFix on, and you make list from "Special page" and enter into the box "Recentchanges", you can go through the list of recently edited articles to correct typos. Even better would probably be entering "Newpages"; I think you can guess what that does :-) —METS501 (talk) 03:58, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Haha, ya, I think I can figure out what that does! thanks, Ctjf83 05:34, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

AWB v4

Only thing that could with being ideally done, would be migrate the last 4 or so uses of query.php to api.php

Reedy Boy 21:22, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Alright; I'll try to do that tonight if you don't beat me to it :-) —METS501 (talk) 23:58, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Nice one, Just GetHistory() and GetUserInfo() to change to api.php if possible :) Reedy Boy 09:57, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
AWB is now query.php free :) Reedy Boy 12:20, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Yay! —METS501 (talk) 14:19, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Are we going to get v4.1 out by the end of the weekend? And are we going to leave v4 active after all the hoo-har last time? Reedy Boy 16:31, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
If you can get on IRC later, that'd be good. Then we can finalise the decision! I think its ready! Reedy Boy 16:44, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
V4.1 has been released! Reedy Boy 19:41, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Yay! Good decision to leave 4.0 enabled too; too many people were worked up last time to justify doing the same thing. —METS501 (talk) 19:43, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Yup, i think, though, to be honest, people are going to get annoid with v4 and upgrade - I just noticed some of the now fixed bugs that exist in the last release of v4 with regards to update - like it just updating it cause it wants to... Meh!! Reedy Boy 19:45, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, you're right. Nothing we can do about it though. —METS501 (talk) 20:19, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
It'll force people to upgrade - not much we can do about it. Heh ;) Reedy Boy 20:22, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

bot not following the rules you say it does

Hi I see you said one condition for tagging an image page by MetsBot was:

  • "The file has been marked with {{NowCommons}} for at least one week."

Yet your bot tagged Image:Kuwait-Iraq barrier.png only 1 day after it had been marked. Jackaranga 04:13, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

It's a general consensus that the waiting period is not necessary, so MetsBot is currently not marking it and leaving it up to the admin whether they want to go ahead and delete it early or not. —METS501 (talk) 14:21, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

RE:Denied request for bot

Hi,

I am new to this, but would like to know more info on bots. The reason for requesting for one was for vandals and trolls removing our WikiProject Dravidian civilizations template from over 120 of our related sites pertaining to the subject matter. Furthermore, if there is someone who could coach me on bots or if there is a page where I could read more about how they are used it would very much be appreciated. Regards. Wiki Raja 07:34, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi Wiki Raja. If you are inexperienced technically with bots, I would recommend AutoWikiBrowser, a great tool which will allow you to make repetitive edits fast with a technical knowledge of little to none. It is pretty self explanatory, but there is also a users manual there if you need more help. —METS501 (talk) 14:23, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Malfunction on Peter Rehberg

MetsBot has malfunctioned on the Peter Rehberg article, causing the infobox code to be visible. I wasn't able to pinpoint the error and fix it, so I simply reverted it. Go ahead and re-apply the edit sans the error if you wish. Regards, Grim-Gym 16:51, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

It didnt handle the piped wikilink of the image correctly. Taking it as a new parameter. The unclosed wikilink brackets then caused the error. Reverted and fixed MetsBot Reedy Boy 17:57, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about that, and thanks for fixing it :-) —METS501 (talk) 19:39, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

An ultra-smart or buggy bot?

Hi Mets. Can you please explain what happened here? MetsBot removed the image during the conversion process. Now, the image (uploaded by myself ages ago) is indeed a replaceable fair use, the one I should probably have deleted myself had I not forget about it. However, is the bot really ultra-smart to conclude that it's a RFU, or is it a bug? Occam's razor suggests the later, but I'm curious. [please reply here] Duja 06:42, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

No, that's a bug. I wish I could claim the former though :-) —METS501 (talk) 11:01, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Ah, OK. Just curious, is the annoyingly ultra-wide setting of your talk page made on purpose (in order to discourage other wikipedians from bugging you :-) ) or a bug as well? :-). Duja 14:23, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
It's actually an IE bug that makes the <pre> stuff display on one non-breaking line. It should be fixed now. —METS501 (talk) 00:40, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Recursive Category Getterer

rev 1665

Fixed :)

You must've accidentally removed a bit of code you shouldnt have :)

No Biggy - Rather you than me changing the code over ;)

Reedy Boy 18:39, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing it :-) —METS501 (talk) 00:40, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Category (Recursive) not working

When I type in "The Simpsons episodes" in the recursive, it use to come up with all 400+ episodes on the search, now it only comes up with the specific seasons. Is there something wrong with my AWB download or is it a fix from the main AWB? Ctjf83 21:47, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Bugs/Archive 4, first bug. Or my post above this one. It was accidently broken just before 4.1 was released. Reedy Boy 21:49, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
i went to the link to fix it, and i'm confused as to what to do. i tried reinstalling AWB, but that didn't fix it. Please help! Ctjf83 00:53, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Notice the "Fixed in the next release'" :-) All you have to do is either wait for the next release or download version 4.0.0.0 and use that until the next one is released. —METS501 (talk) 01:07, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

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Mets Bot, Commons, and multiple templates

Hi. I have started to move all the images that I have done from Wikipedia to Commons. As I am the sole editor on those images, I have placed two templates on them: namely, {{subst:ncd}} and {{db-author}}. MetsBot is now reporting a possible problem (see this, this, or this for examples). Rather than get into a complicated arguement about whether it's right or not, it would be simpler if I could just tag them with {{db-author}} (as is my right) and forget about tagging them with {{subst:ncd}}. Do you foresee a problem with this workaround? Regards, Anameofmyveryown 01:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

MetsBot is only saying that it cannot verify that there is or isn't a problem, so it's letting the deleting administrator know. You can certainly tag them with {{db-author}} if you'd like, but there's no harm in doing it the regular way with {{subst:ncd}}. —METS501 (talk) 02:23, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Metsbot error when migrating infobox

When migrating {{Infobox band}} to {{Infobox musical artist}} on SerialPod, trailing }} brackets of the old infobox were left inside the code of the new infobox:
| Current_members = [[Trey Anastasio]]<br />[[Mike Gordon]]<br />[[Bill Kreutzmann]]<br />}}
| Past_members =
| Notable_instruments =
}}
This resulted in the last two code lines showing on the page. I have seen that effect on other pages already. Please prevent that from happening again (and maybe fix the pages where it happened?). Regards, BNutzer 10:43, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. That was a one-time run, so be assured it won't happen again in the future :-). Sorry for the inconvenience. 165.155.208.143 (Mets501 from public computer) 18:48, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

ProteinBoxBot approval

Since you were the one who approved the trial for ProteinBoxBot, I wonder if you'd chime in on the full approval request? Cheers, AndrewGNF 15:57, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Operating speed

Hey Mets.

Is the article Operating speed really necessary, since we have Speed limit? Keegantalk 05:21, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

BTW, I understand the legal differences. Example if the speed limit is 35, while raining the appropriate operating speed would be less than that posted. I just thought the two might be worked in to the Speed limit article nicely rather than that article just being an overview of speeds in various countries/provinces. Keegantalk 05:25, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
I wouldn't object if you preferred them merged. I just thought that since they can technically be considered very different (speed limit deals with the legal aspects while operating speed is basically about what people actually do) they could get separate articles. Either way is fine :-) Is there a relevant Wikiproject we could ask for more opinions, perhaps? —METS501 (talk) 05:28, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
I suppose Wikipedia:WikiProject Transport would be the place to go. This could be a good opportunity to make Speed limit a much more encyclopedic article and/or the other. Toss a note over there, see what they think. Best of luck with it, I'll keep an eye out. Keegantalk 05:49, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Unbroke MediaWiki:Returnto

Please see MediaWiki talk:Returnto. --brion 19:29, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

AWB Bug fix Release

You think we should get 4.1.1.0 out this weekend to fix up some of the bugs in 4.1?

Im thinking it would be worth it

Reedy Boy 10:57, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, we can try :-) —METS501 (talk) 14:36, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Jogers agrees. I'll sort one out later today :) Reedy Boy 15:31, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

BOT en WP:ES

Hola Mets. Acabo de ver que tu bot hizo una correción en una página, cambiando "caracter" -> "carácter". Te comento que la palabra "caracter" existe, y por eso el cambio podría estar equivocado. --200.122.193.187 21:18, 15 September 2007 (UTC) (es:User:Racso)

Sí, ¿pero que significa en espańol? Ni siquiera sabía que existe la esa palabra. Y evidentemente, tampoco sabe el diccionario de la real academia: [67] (escribe la palabra caracter, y dice que no existe). The Evil Spartan 00:31, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Jaja. Ya respondí en es:User:Racso con lo mismo :-) —METS501 (talk) 01:42, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Question on bot approval

You recently approved my bot User:PsychAWB. For some reason, my main account (this one) can use the bot part of AWB but my bot cannot use it at all. Could you explain this, or at least approve my bot? Psychless 21:48, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Whoops, sorry about that. Fixed. —METS501 (talk) 00:23, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. It's working now. Psychless 01:56, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Can you please take another look at my approval request? I have completed 50 edits. Psychless 04:32, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
It seems you must have missed my last message somehow. Can you take another look? Psychless 19:54, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Oh, sorry about that. I've approved it now. —METS501 (talk) 23:23, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

MetsBot mistagging commons images, sort of...

Well, I'm conflicted about MetsBot tagging as "not ready for deletion" images that simply don't have a category at the commons. However, I thought you should know, that right now it's tagging as OK images that have only one category: Images transwikied by BetacommandBot (e.g., Image:Bluetit777.jpg). This may or may not be a good thing - your decision. The Evil Spartan 00:26, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

It's a local rule that all images must be in an article or category on commons. Thanks for letting me know about the BetacommandBot category, though. I'll definitely fix that for tomorrow's run. —METS501 (talk) 00:28, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Bot approval

Hi, I'm not sure of the procedure here... You approved my bot's second task for a trial run of 15 edits. I have done this (Special:Contributions/Kotbot) and it works (the red links will be fixed later). To complete the task I need about 100 more edits. Is it OK to go ahead with them?--Kotniski 15:38, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

You need to wait for the full approval to finish the task. The trials just to check that the edits should be fine. I'd look at it, but i've got to run for my tea! Reedy Boy 15:42, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
See my comments at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Kotbot 2. —METS501 (talk) 15:44, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
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Request for MetsBot

Hi Mets501, I just posted the following at the request for bots work but it just occurred to me that MetsBot is probably the most natural choice to do this work. It would again be a tremendous time saver if you can add that functionality to MetsBot. Thanks, Pascal.Tesson (talk) 14:27, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

There is currently a sizable backlog at Category:Images on Wikimedia Commons. For those unfamiliar with the category: these are images that exist on Commons under a different name and that should be deleted once the occurrences of the Wikipedia image have been replaced by the Commons image. Naturally, this is a pain in the neck to do manually, especially since some of these images have a dozen occurrences. I suppose a simple tweak of Twinkle could automate the process, so could a bot. There's a similar category Category:Images with the same name on Wikimedia Commons for images that exist on Commons under the same name so a bot could easily go through images in Category:Images on Wikimedia Commons and
  • verify that the corresponding Commons image is a bit-for-bit copy of the Wikipedia image (MetsBot already does this)
  • if the images are indeed identical, replace occurrences on en.wiki by the Commons image
  • move the image to Category:Images with the same name on Wikimedia Commons
This is probably a cinch to program but it would be a big big timesaver. Pascal.Tesson (talk) 14:27, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Image:PentagonGroundZeroCafe.jpg

Image:PentagonGroundZeroCafe.jpg is flagged with {{ncd}} and can be deleted. The version in commons is at the original size, whilst the version on en:wikipedia was reduced in size (by me) when first uploaded. Please delete at your earliest convenience. Astronaut (talk) 22:07, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

MetsBot bug

Something odd about MetsBot tags - see Image:ComeAndGetIt136421766.jpg and Image:JammerDreads.jpg. Kelly hi! 21:19, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Image:IMG_0391.JPG

Hi,

Could you explain this to me please? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:IMG_0391.JPG

Norum (talk) 02:36, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Bot question

Can you get Metsbot to start running daily? I am going to start a new task for flagging images already on commons. βcommand 23:02, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Template problem

Since I don't know how often you actually sign in as User:UBX, I figured I'd link you to a question I had over there. Thanks in advance for the help. --Areldyb (talk) 01:33, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

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Image:PentagonGroundZeroCafe.jpg (again)

For the second time your bot has flagged this image with "may not pass the requirements for deletion". Another user uploaded a larger version of the same image to commons and has changed the article to you the commons version; so please be assured that this image does meet the requirements for deletion and can therefore be deleted. Astronaut (talk) 22:37, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Possibility of deletion of image

Hi Mets501,

My image that I took and uploaded,

has been tagged that it may not pass the criteria for deletion.

I am not sure why it was identified as a proposal for the deletion in the first place, as I took the image myself, and uploaded it.

However, it may be that the auto - bot linked my Wiki username, 'Tinminer' with the image itself which is a photograph of a statue of a tinminer!

I am not a tinminer myself, nor am I the person who built or created the statue. My only interest is local history, of which tin mining is the most important element - hence why I chose the username!

If I need to do any other adjustments to avoid possible deletion, please enlighten me! The image is important, as it forms part of the article about the town Redruth.

Thanks for your time.

Tinminer (talk) 16:02, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi Tinminer. You have nothing to worry about with your image; it's part of a process to move images to Wikimedia Commons. In fact, you won't even notice any change. See User:MetsBot/Commons tagging for more information. —METS501 (talk) 18:53, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah, thanks for that Mets501! Tinminer (talk) 14:04, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Request for MetsBot's assistance in maintaining 12 of the maintenance categories

As the creator of Category:Year of birth missing (living people) (as well as Category:Place of birth missing (living people)), I was particularly gratified last November 6, upon realizing that MetsBot was extremely speedily performing the task that I had laboriously tried to carry out from May to October—replacing thousands of Category:Year of birth missing with Category:Year of birth missing (living people). I regret not sending a note of appreciation at the time and hope that this message can serve as a belated surrogate. A year ago, May 1, 2007, on the day of the category's creation, I wrote in its newly-opened discussion page that its parent Category:Year of birth missing (created less than two years previously, on June 21, 2005) had grown to contain 18,207 names, rendering it unmanageable. Previous suggestions to subdivide it by gender, nationality or profession could not reach consensus, thus leaving "(living people)" as what seemed to be the last, best alternative. My feeble attempts to manually populate the category, following its creation, managed a daily average of fifteen to twenty-five entries (by contrast, MetsBot completed sixteen entries in one second!). Even so, it took MetsBot from November 6 to November 9 (with "rest breaks") to complete the task, along with adding DEFAULTSORT where needed and attending to Category:Possibly living people.

The creation of the two categories was, in a number of aspects, an outgrowth of CfDs in which I had participated. Some editors continued to complain that although the 15 maintenance categories fulfilled the useful (and, arguably, necessary) function of denoting the absence of years, dates and places of birth and death, they were creating visual clutter among the "standard" or "real" categories at the bottom of biographical articles. As a result, in April 2007, two CfDs dealing with a number of the maintenance categories, arrived at a consensus. Twelve of the categories (all ten dates and places, which were considered to contain needed, but non-essential, or "defining" data, plus "Year of birth/death unknown", which pointed out the lack of unobtainable, lost to history, facts) were to be repurposed to the discussion pages, where a small group of specialized editors, with a penchant for research, could continue to complete the missing information. Only the three categories indicating absence of years of birth and/or death which were theoretically capable of being researched (Category:Year of birth missing, Category:Year of birth missing (living people) and Category:Year of death missing) were noted as "defining", thus entitling those "Year categories" to remain on article pages. The wholesale transfer of the ten "Date/Place categories" (the two "Year unknown" categories were overlooked) was assigned to the no-longer functioning COBot on June 13, 2007 (example: COBot's final transferred entry on June 13, Talk:Zoran Vraneš, can be seen in that talk page's revision history). To keep all of the categories together, the agreed-upon place for the newly-transferred categories was to be directly below the Wikitags/templated categories and, if already-present, DEFAULTSORT (seen as a more-precise sorting feature than "listas="). In the event a recent or newly-created biographical article does not yet have a discussion page, MetsBot may/would create it and place the transferred category or categories at the top of the page. Tens of thousands of these non-templated maintenance categories have already been placed on discussion pages (and continue to be placed manually) but, unfortunately, a number of well-meaning, persistent editors continue to add them to article pages. Hopefully, if/when schedule permits, the twelve categories listed below could be swept by MetsBot from article pages to talk pages and periodically (weekly?, monthly?, quarterly?) maintained to take account of newly (incorrectly) placed categories.

Taking into account the newly-appended (February 26, 2008) innovation of hidden categories, some additional observations could be made. If the maintenance categories were capable of being hidden in 2006–07, the complaints about "clutter" would likely not have occurred (personally, I prefer to see all categories, setting my Preferences to "Show hidden categories"). I feel, however, that the "Hidden categories" feature does not render this transfer exercise moot. Unlike the nearly 1200 entries in Category:Hidden categories, virtually all of which are templated (and extremely specialized— Category:Start-Class Early Modern warfare articles) the fifteen maintenance categories are not templated and (I know I'm writing to an expert) mutually exclusive (I think) at a ratio of 4:1 (there is a sixteenth rarely used "outsider" maintenance Category:Year of birth uncertain, meant for individuals whose age is given in a newspaper/magazine story, but not the year of birth, thus leaving the uncertainty of one of two possible years), that is, at most, only 4 out of the 16 maintenance categories can ever be applicable to any single individual. In many cases, of course, none, or only one, of these sixteen categories is needed in a biographical entry. Thus, I would argue, due to the exceptional nature of these maintenance categories, they should not be hidden, but left on the article and talk/discussion pages for all to see and consider (this will likely turn out to be a minority view). Sorry about the excessive length of this note and, again, thank you for all your efforts on Wikipedia (Wiki-efforts).—Roman Spinner (talk) 17:05, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Garbled MetsBot messages

Still seeing occasional problems - see Image:The London Eye at dusk.jpg for an example. This seems to happen when the image at Commons is not exactly the same as the Wikipedia image - for example, I uploaded the Commons version of this image directly from the Flickr source instead of trans-wiki-ing from the en Wikipedia. Image:JammerDreads.jpg was another previous example of this. Kelly hi! 16:17, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out why that randomly happens. It seems relatively rare (i.e. not a reason to stop the bot runs) but it would still be great to figure it out... —METS501 (talk) 16:00, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! Yeah, I love the bot, just wanted to give you the opportunity to make it even more perfect. :) FYI, I dropped a message at Magnus' talk page at Commons about some licenses not transferring correctly with CommonsHelper...the ones I have seen so far are {{self2}} (a redirect to {{self}} at both places, but still screwed up somehow), {{Attribution}}, where the details are being dropped, and {{GFDL-self}} and {{GFDL-self-with-disclaimers}} (and possibly other GFDL-with-disclaimer variations). I'm sure you've probably seen these issues since MetsBot seems awesome at picking up license differences. I'm not sure how closely Magnus watches his talk page but I'm concerned about license details being garbled or lost until this if fixed. - Kelly hi! 16:47, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
MetsBot can parse {{self}}, so for now, it's not really a problem (i.e. MetsBot will pick up licensing disparities even with the {{self}} template. Thanks for helping me improve the bot though :-) —METS501 (talk) 01:48, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Metsbot and moves to Commons

Hi Mets. Metsbot told me that the images Image:Froeya-370 59037a.jpg and Image:Olav-Tryggvason-370 58332a.jpg that I have copied to Commons "may not meet the requirements for deletion". What's wrong, and how can I fix the problem with the images? Manxruler (talk) 18:04, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

The main thing is to make sure that the attribution and license details between here and Commons match. Drop me a note on my talk page if you need help with this. Kelly hi! 18:07, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
  • I too cannot seem to appease the bot: how can I specify the source so that it's at last happy? I read not too worry, but would like to learn how to avoid this seeming source of delay if only possible in the future, and I already did what the bot asked for, but the bot is unrelenting: Image:CountriesRecognizingKosovo.png --Mareklug talk 23:59, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
I've got this problem, too. The bot is tagging Image:Lewis&ClarkBridge.jpg as "may not meet requirements" because "This image does not exist on Commons or has an empty description page". Problem is that's simply not correct - the image does exist on Commons and does have proper content on its description page. I removed the bot's tag once, but it was simply replaced. Ipoellet (talk) 02:55, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

MetsBot NASA images

Hi, i was wondering if you can help MetsBot understand the following

MetsBot was unable to determine if this image has compatable license information on Commons.
The license(s) here: {{PD-NASA}}
The license(s) on Commons: {{PD-USGov-NASA}}

This occurs quite often, and it's less than useful :D --TheDJ (talkcontribs) 11:01, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Y Done. The info is actually maintained on this page: User:MetsBot/Matching_licenses, which any admin can edit. I can't unprotect it because I can't risk any sort of sabotage or wrong information. —METS501 (talk) 01:49, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Incompatible licenses

Doing some work on license templates and found that there is a difference in the terms of {{PD-old}} between here and Commons. On en Wikipedia, the terms of the license mean {{PD-old-100}}, while on Commons {{PD-old}} means {{PD-old-70}}. It really should be standardized somehow. Also, I just read the entry immediately above - can you have MetsBot consider {{PD-user}} to be equivalent to {{PD-user-en}}? Kelly hi! 02:59, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Second one done, no problem. And as far as I see the first one, considering that the license here is more restrictive, it's not really a problem. But I agree that it would be great to have it standardized. —METS501 (talk) 16:36, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

A few questions about MetsBot

Apologies if you have answered these questions before elsewhere, but I have a couple of queries regarding MetsBot. Why is Image:Aughton.jpg categorized under Category:Metsbot disputed images when it has been passed by the bot? Also, why was that image passed when Image:Topiary Rufford Hall.JPG was not? Thanks in advance! Small-town hero (talk) 01:20, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

As far as the categories, that was an error in the template (fixing diff). As far as that error in passing the image, the bot is set up so that if it's even the slightest bit confused, it puts up the message :-). In this case, it was the {{Self}} vs {{self}} capitalization difference that got it confused. It's fixed for the future though. —METS501 (talk) 01:56, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! If you don't mind, I am now also wondering about the following images:

In the case of the latter two, would it be ok for me to manually replace the license on Commons as suggested by the message? Small-town hero (talk) 02:28, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Scratch that, hopefully I've resolved the issues with these (and a few other) images - I'll see what happens next time the bot runs. I did find a few more capitalization differences that were confusing the bot:

  • {{cc-by-3.0}} on Wikipedia, {{Cc-by-3.0}} on Commons
  • {{cc-by-2.5}} on Wikipedia, {{Cc-by-3.0}} on Commons

Small-town hero (talk) 13:08, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

All fixed :-) MetsBot now recognizes that the licenses are the same even if the first letter is a different capitalization. —METS501 (talk) 16:53, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

A few more for you (sorry!) I'm guessing that the first two have something to do with the {{geograph}} template, but I don't have a clue about the other two.

Cheers! Small-town hero (talk) 21:37, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

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Hello, several days ago I tagged this image for deletion due to duplication with an image from Commons, where I am a sysop. In the meanwhile I discovered the original, uploaded firstly in Bulgarian Wikipedia. I discovered a little bit of licensing mess throughout the history of the image - author Mincov once released under GFDL, then under CC-BY-2.5. TodorBozhinov who uploaded the image here, needs no attribution himself, because he hasn't produced a derivative work. Anyway, I tried to carefully describe the case commons:Image:Stuffed-Pelicans-Srebarna.jpg and now you can delete the local image without problems. Cheers, Spiritia 07:34, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Re:Image:WinterPkSta-SilverStar.jpg

You tagged my Image:WinterPkSta-SilverStar.jpg for deletion, apparently because there's a duplicate in the commons. Good, because that's what I wanted -- a version for the commons. My only question is, when will this be done? ----DanTD (talk) 12:27, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

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Just downloaded everything necessary for awb. But I don't see where to start the program. (No desktop icon,start menu has nothing) Does it start automatically? I would hate to download something and found I couldn't use it a second time.It's currently on because I activated its exe file right from where I extracted it to.Help!I am approved.Xp54321 (talk) 22:08, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

You did it right the first time; all you need to do is double-click on the exe file. Try creating a new folder in C:\Program Files\ called AWB or something else and put the exe file and the other files in that folder in that new folder and run it from there. —METS501 (talk) 02:20, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

MetsBot false negatives

Not sure if any programming can fix this, but I've noticed that one type of MetsBot false negative is for Flickr images in which the Commons version was uploaded directly from the Flickr source instead of being trans-wiki'd from en Wikipedia. In those cases credit to the en Wikipedia uploader should not be necessary. An example would be Image:Sloan 2007 left.jpg...I've been flagging those types of images with {{db}} because the issue can't really be "fixed" for MetsBot. Hopefully the folks working CSD won't get too annoyed with me, but Category:Metsbot disputed images is getting bigger and bigger (up to 1300 images now) - nobody seems to be working them. Kelly hi! 00:35, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

FYI, I've also seen a similar issue with PD images uploaded from PD sources (like the U.S. government or PD Library of Congress repositories). For PD licenses (except maybe for {{PD-self}}) it really shouldn't be necessary for the Commons page to attribute the en Wikipedia uploader so long as the original source is provided. But IANAL and all that. I'm not sure if MetsBot can be trained to recognize this. Kelly hi! 01:20, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi Kelly. Thanks for helping out with the backlog! Basically, here's what I think I can do as far as changes. For Flickr GFDL/cc images, there's really nothing I can do; there's no way for MetsBot to verify that the uploader made no edits to the image before uploading it and that it wasn't the edited version that was uploaded (unattributed) to Commons. As far as for PD images from any source, I'm going to remove the uploader credit checking. After all, PD means just that: anyone can use the image for whatever purpose, no attribution is legally required. Thanks for the suggestions! —METS501 (talk) 02:26, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Sounds great, thanks! And thanks for an amazingly useful bot! Oh, I just thought of this in regards to Flickr images - if the image is a bit-for-bit identical copy on Commons you should know that the image has not been modified. Just a thought. Never mind. This wouldn't work when the image was transwiki'd from en Wikipedia as opposed to being uploaded to Commons directly from Flickr. Guess we're stuck with manual noms in those cases. Kelly hi! 02:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:Clitheroe park enterance.JPG

Hi, I've got a number of images like this where MetsBot isn't picking up the {{self}} template on Commons. Could you take a look please? Thanks in advance! Small-town hero (talk) 06:42, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:Bruce Rusty Lang March 1970.jpg

Your bot has identified this image for deletion. It contains the only available image of the 6th Special Forces Group insignia worn on a uniform. How do we correct this? Dr. B. R. Lang (talk) 21:48, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

The deletion of the image is a technical detail only. The image is actually a commons file image and that copy of the image will not be delete, nor will any usage of the image. The only thing that is being deleted is the duplicate copy found in Wikipedia. I hope that this reply will relieve your fears. Any page that currently uses this image will continue to use it after it is deleted from here. Dbiel (Talk) 00:33, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:Tahoma high school 1926.jpg

I do not understand why Image:Tahoma high school 1926.jpg should be marked for retention in Wikipedia. It is an exact copy of the Commons file image. There is no reason for a separte Wikipedia copy. Dbiel (Talk) 00:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, after do some more research, I see why the bot changed the tag. It is beginning to look like this may be a copyright violation image with an invalid free use license over in Commons Dbiel (Talk) 01:12, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

OTRS tickets

Mets, does MetsBot check for the transfer of OTRS tickets to Commons? A problem results when OTRS templates other than {{PermissionOTRS}} (the Commons template) are used here at Wikipedia. Examples include {{ConfirmationOTRS}} and {{ConfirmationImageOTRS}}. It appears the tickets are simply lost in the transfer. I tried standardizing the OTRS templates but the OTRS volunteers were unhappy about that, so I'm not sure how to go forward with that. But hopefully MetsBot can at least flag when the info is being dropped. Kelly hi! 16:50, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm, MetsBot now treats them like other license templates; they must match. That should work, right? —METS501 (talk) 20:48, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

License compatibility

Mets, could you make the Commons license {{PD-1923}} compatible with en Wikipedia license {{PD-US}} so far as MetsBot is concerned? Image:N041915.jpg was the false negative that brought this to my attention. Kelly hi! 21:39, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Also, {{self2}} here should be made compatible with {{self}} on Commons - false negative was Image:AogaeView.jpg. Kelly hi! 04:10, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Y Done and Y Done :-) —METS501 (talk) 20:48, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:BurjDubaiHeight.png

The bot says: "MetsBot was unable to determine if this image has compatable license information on Commons.

The license(s) here: {{GFDL}} {{cc-by-sa-3.0,2.5,2.0,1.0}} {{Self}}
The license(s) on Commons: {{GFDL}} {{cc-by-sa-3.0,2.5,2.0,1.0}} "

Surely these are the same compatible licenses. I am using {{self}} as a container for multiple licenses. The image can be safely deleted. Astronaut (talk) 08:49, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I've manually tagged the image for deletion using the {{db}} template - false negatives happen once in a while. You can do this yourself if this happens again in the future, or manually list the image for deletion at WP:IFD. Cheers - Kelly hi! 13:20, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, that's shouldn't have happened. All fixed now. —METS501 (talk) 20:49, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:Small_bunyapine.jpg

  • Resolved. Licensing conflict fixed. Kelly hi! 13:13, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Go ahead and delete Image:Small_bunyapine.jpg - your robot is having kittens trying to do it. It's my photo and the same file exists on commons. Please, feel free to manually delete it. Peter1968 (talk) 05:01, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

It was a bug, and it's now fixed. —METS501 (talk) 20:50, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

My CSD# I8 images

I recently had at least four images tagged for deletion because there are duplicates of them on the commons.

Since I looked in the history of the images, couldn't find who tagged them for speedy deletion, and got no answer from the administrators, I'd like to know if by chance you were the user who tagged these for deletion. I'm not complaining about them being tagged this way, in fact my only complaint is that the commons version isn't replacing the older duplicates soon enough. ----DanTD (talk) 12:41, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

The images hadn't actually been tagged for deletion - I've tagged them now. I think maybe you were referring to the orange-bordered information box that starts with "This file is an exact duplicate of another file from the Wikimedia Commons" - that's actually not a deletion tag but a system advisory that a duplicate file exists. In the future just add {{subst:ncd}} to the pages of images that are Commons duplicates. Kelly hi! 13:16, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
That's the one. Now I'm going to turn that question over to you. Did you tag those images this way? Furthermore, why can't I find it in the history of the images? ----DanTD (talk) 14:53, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
It's not a template that users put on the page - it's something that's displayed automatically by the Mediawiki interface, like the file history or file links section. Kelly hi! 14:58, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

e-mail

I sent to you an e-mail Azmi1995 00:45, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Compatible licenses

Hi, Mets - please make en license {{GFDL-self-no-disclaimers}} compatible with commons license {{GFDL-user-en-no-disclaimers}} - Image:Schrodingercat EA2007.jpg was the false negative. Thanks! Kelly hi! 13:34, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

bot false negative: Image:Asphalt_base.jpg

Hi there. What went wrong here? Quoting 2 templates:


This picture/multimedia file is now available on Wikimedia Commons as Image:Asphalt base.jpg.

Images that have been tagged with this template may be deleted immediately after satisfying these conditions (CSD I8).


MetsBot has reviewed this image and it may not pass the requirements for deletion. (what does this mean?)
MetsBot was unable to determine if this image has compatable license information on Commons.
The license(s) here: {{GFDL-self-en}}
The license(s) on Commons: {{GFDL-user-w}}
Feel free to remove this template to have MetsBot recheck this image. Last checked at 21:42, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Best, --Mareklug talk 23:53, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Fixed for the future; thanks. —METS501 (talk) 02:42, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:Rottingdean wkp.jpg

{{NoRightsReserved}} redirects to {{PD-release}} here on Wikipedia, and is deprecated on Commons (though oddly, {{Norightsreserved}} - without the capitalization - redirects to {{Copyrighted free use}} on Commons). I switched the Commons license (as recommended) to {{PD-user-w}}, thought MetsBot doesn't recognize this as the same thing. Any way around this problem? Small-town hero (talk) 00:34, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Yep, fixed for the future. MetsBot now recognizes them as "Compatible". Thanks —METS501 (talk) 02:44, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Artist

Per Template_talk:Infobox_Artist#Famous_works, the parameter "Famous works" has been changed to "Works". This means the existing template on article pages, e.g. Vincent van Gogh needs to be updated, so the template, which at the moment says "famous works",[68] reads just "works". I wonder if your bot would be able to do this, or else if you could recommend one that could. Thanks. Ty 05:17, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey...check out Wikipedia:Bot requests; there'll definitely be a friendly bot op ready to help you there. —METS501 (talk) 17:34, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Will do. Ty. Ty 23:16, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

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Question about a userbox

Hi. I've just read your note at User:UBX and I understand that you're only hosting userboxes and may or may not be a creator of them. But I'm not sure who else to ask about this, so I hope you can either help me or point me in the right direction.

I'm using {{User:UBX/WV-Northern}} on my user page, but I can't get it into the correct horizontal alignment. It sits several pixels above the other boxes and throws everything off. I feel sure that it's an issue with the template code but I don't know nearly enough about that stuff to know how to fix it, and since your account is the only link (so to speak) that I have to the creator, you're it.

I appreciate anything you can do or tell me to help me out. I have a feeling this isn't really your problem, and I thank you for any time that you give toward rectifying it. -- edi (talk) 23:15, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

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MetsBot and more than double redirects

Hi, I'm wondering does MetsBot work on 'more-than-double redirects' (ie triple, quadruple redirects)? It would be great to have that function. In any case, we're looking for something that cleans up redirects on Wikiversity - would the bot script need to be modified for use there, and if so, would it be possible for you to do so? You're more likely to reach me on my WV talk page, but I do also check WP. Thanks! Cormaggio is learning 10:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Possible MetsBot bug

Just a heads-up - Image:Chateauneuf vineyard & castle.jpg has been tagged as a Commons dupe since 22 May, but for some reason MetsBot hasn't checked it. Not a big deal but wanted to let you know. Kelly hi! 19:52, 5 June 2008 (UTC)‎

Yeah, MetsBot has an issue with images with the "&" in their title. I've been trying to fix it, but with no luck. —METS501 (talk) 22:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Brooklands

...has been put on all my images on Brooklands. Its wrong!

DineshAdv (talk) 16:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


Altough I have realised that I just copied



onto the page, when I should have changed Image:imagenameoncommons.jpg to its name on commons. I'm sorry.

DineshAdv (talk) 18:24, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

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an edit by your bot

Your bot made edits here and here. FYI, csd I8 does not require an image to be in a category or article on Commons.--Rockfang (talk) 02:55, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Source code, plz?

Can I see your bot's source code? I want to build a clone of it. G2.0 USA contributions 16:07, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Incidentally, I just had a major hard drive crash, and I'm afraid the bot is gone with it :-(. I'm attempting data recovery now, and I'll get back to you with more information soon. —METS501 (talk) 03:11, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
OK. Thanks. ;) --G2.0 USA contributions 14:46, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

The Telescopes

Hi Mets,

In relation to an edit/clean up you made last August 25th 2007 re: 'The Telescope' - British electronica/shoegazing band. I might be wrong but your finished edit appears to show 'Joanna Doran' as a past member, with 'Bridget Hayden' as a current member. As a fan, I wasn't aware this had happened - however, since they aren't exactly the most covered band in the media, it wouldn't surprise me. Could you tell me how you came across this information? If it wasn't you, if you get the chance could you investigate?

Thanks in advance,

Theblako (talk) 17:19, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi. It actually wasn't me (or my bot) that added that information; it was actually added before my bot (although my bot did fix up the table a bit). Sorry I can't help you more. —METS501 (talk) 03:11, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

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