Talk:Methuselah (tree)
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Reference available at: http://www.biologie.uni-hamburg.de/b-online/earle/pi/pin/longaeva.htm
The oldest known living specimen is the "Methuselah" tree, sampled by Schulman and Harlan in the White Mountains of CA, for which 4789 years are verified by crossdating. An age of 4,844 years was determined post-mortem (after being cut down) for specimen WPM-114 from Wheeler Peak, NV.
This is a little confusing because WPM-114 is the Prometheus Tree and not this tree.
I have no problem with redirection and merging as that means only one page to update. Thanks paul 13:13, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Merge this page
Sorry to sound negative and I don't wish to undermine anyone elses efforts but shouldn't this page be a subsection of Bristlecone_pine? I notice that Methuselah_tree is already in existance as a re-direct to Bristlecone_pine.
Go ahead. I wasn't aware that the Methuselah pine was mentioned in the article when I created it. If you guys think it's superfluous, go ahead and move it. Supraman 03:05, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] methuselah still the oldest tree?
I just read this article on MSN about five to seven thousand year old hybrid scrub oaks:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19577541/
These are 'popular' science stories, with guesstimated ages. This tree's age is the oldest whose age has been verified through coring/ring-counting.Ryoung122 03:39, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] NPOV issue
Greetings,
In regards to this edit:
Revision as of 17:58, 25 October 2007 (edit) TomTheHand (Talk | contribs) (removing redundant and misleading paragraph again. Prometheus wasn't cut down as a thoughtless act which a secret location would have helped)
I'm sure that many people disagree with you, and think that cutting down a 5,200-year-old tree IS a thoughtless and inconsiderate act. Further, we see parallels with the tallest redwood: its location is now kept a secret. Thus, you are wrong factually and wrong on the opinion as well.Ryoung122 23:50, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Bible reference neccessary?
"Put another way, Moses led the Israelites out of Egypt sometime between 1300 and 1200 BC, as believed by most scholars. The Methuselah Tree sprouted c. 1532 years before Moses was born. It may have been one of the very first organisms to be born or sprout after the Great Flood of Noah, if that event happened as the Bible states."
Is this really neccessary? It seems that something that is scientifically questionable shouldn't be used as an example and the trojan war is already being used as a marker for comparison.
