Talk:Metal Gear Solid Original Game Soundtrack

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Albums, an attempt at building a useful resource on recordings from a variety of genres. If you would like to participate, visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.
Stub	This article has been rated as Stub-class on the quality scale.
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the importance scale.
The article has been rated for quality and/or importance but has no comments yet. If appropriate, please review the article and then leave comments here to identify the strengths and weaknesses of the article and what work it will need.

This article has been automatically rated as Stub-Class by WikiProject Albums because it uses a stub template. If you agree with the assessment, please remove |auto=yes from the WikiProject Albums banner above. If you disagree with the assessment, please change it by editing the |class= parameter in the WikiProject Albums banner above and removing the stub template from the article.

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Video games. For more information, visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.	Portal
Stub	This article has been rated as stub-Class on the assessment scale.
VG To-do: edit  Peer review: Video game, Crash of the Titans, Xbox Live Arcade, List of Final Fantasy compilation albums, Metal Gear Solid, Shigeru Miyamoto, The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess‎, Myst III: Exile, Blade Runner Cleanup: List of characters from The King of Fighters, Hellgate: London, LeChuck Featured article candidates: List of songs in Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s (FLC), Crackdown, Halo (series), List of Sega 32X games (FLC), Alleyway Good article nominations: Ayu Tsukimiya, Music of the Final Fantasy Tactics series, Super Smash Bros., Music of Final Fantasy XI, Day of Defeat: Source Article status review: GA Review – None; FA Review – The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask, 3D Monster Maze, Final Fantasy IV; FT Review – None Articles for Deletion: Participate in video game related deletion discussions. Images: Add box-art and screenshots to articles. Make sure to include a valid non-free use rationale. Monitor the following related changes pages: changes to WP:VG and changes to this to-do list. Announce your new articles Sign up for the new VG Newsletter.

[edit] Not all the tracks are in the game

Has anyone of you noticed that?. All the tracks are on the game, save for "Discovery" (track 3). My guess is that it might have been used in a secuence on the submarine (the one on the start credits). --Zephir 16:28, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyvio?

I am intrigued as to the logic behind all these fair use samples. There is no real argument on the image pages, and no source information. Neither is their any comment on the samples in the article. I suspect that this article is a blatent copyright violation, and will delete the samples within seven days if no further information and justification is supplied: please see Wikipedia:Image use policy for more details. Physchim62 (talk) 18:23, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Hmm, well they are 1 minute samples, so it is not a complete reproduction of the original, as for the source, probably off the original CD. In addition, you have not cited a policy on audio files and I belive the argument of blatant copyvio may not hold up at this point. Besides, Other articles have samples of the audio in question. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 02:01, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

All the same, there are samples from every track on the album, which seems like overkill, and there is no discussion about what makes a particular sample of a particular track interesting. I accept the point that these are not the entire works in any case, but I still think that the article goes beyond a fair use justification. If people want to know what the tracks sound like, they should really buy the album or listen to them in a context where the artists have given permission. Physchim62 (talk) 11:06, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

I agree with Dread Lord. --Dangerous-Boy 19:10, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

The relevant Wikipedia policy is described at Wikipedia:Fair use. For Audio clips:

Brief song clips may be used for identification of a musical style, group, or iconic piece of music when accompanied by critical or historical commentary and when attributed to the copyright holder.

In general, regarding the number of samples (under Policy):

• The amount of copyrighted work used should be as little as possible. [...] Do not use multiple images or media clips if one will serve the purpose adequately.
• The material must contribute significantly to the article (e.g. identify the subject of an article, or specifically illustrate relevant points or sections within the text) and must not serve a purely decorative purpose.

I contend that the lengthes of the clips are too long, there are more than is necessary to discuss the musical style of the artist and there is no textual (i.e. original text) describing why we have decided to include them. Physchim62 (talk) 11:30, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

I agree. According to the license tag on the file description page, fair use can only be claimed it the sample is being used "for commentary on the music recording in question, and contributes significantly to the encyclopedia articles it is used in". The the samples are not being used for commentary, and add nothing to the article. Coffee 06:44, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 19:32, 28 August 2007 (UTC)