Talk:Messier 74
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That name (the Phantom Galaxy) from this. Don't you dare tell me that this name wasn't heard before!
— Hurricane Devon ( Talk ) 18:29, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
- *I* hadn't heard of it before, nor have many other. Messier 74 is far more common name, and we should use it. We have discussed this before. It's OK to mention the nickname in the article, but renaming the article is against Wikipedia policy and using the nickname elsewhere in the article makes it confusing.--Jyril 18:42, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
- The fact that someone added a "common" name to that list doesn't mean it is an established name. There are many authors who have given objects a name in their books or papers and I have made up a few names myself over years of observing. None of those are appropriate for titles of the articles though.--Kalsermar 20:57, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, I think this page should be moved to M74, like IC 447 or most of the other ICs. Just a thought... --M1ss1ontomars2k4 05:04, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- The fact that someone added a "common" name to that list doesn't mean it is an established name. There are many authors who have given objects a name in their books or papers and I have made up a few names myself over years of observing. None of those are appropriate for titles of the articles though.--Kalsermar 20:57, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
No, M74 is a disambiguation page. Messier 74 is better because it is unambiguous. Current article name is just dumb.--Jyril 17:56, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
(At the time of this writing, the page name is M74 but Phantom Galaxy remains as an alternate name in the article.) A search for M74 on NED (http://nedwww.ipac.caltech.edu/) did not turn up Phantom Galaxy as an accepted name, even though NED is generally good at listing nicknames for many nearby galaxies. Moreover, a Google search for "phantom galaxy" turns up either articles based on this article or scientific articles referring to other sources. I conclude that naming this galaxy Phantom Galaxy is both misleading and confusing. I am removing the name from this web page. (Note that this "nickname" for M74 was removed by someone else from the List of Messier objects page.) GeorgeJBendo 07:21, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
- That would be me, I removed a lot of them on that list but not from the articles. I will do that as I come across them. Thank you for doing this one. A user (now banned) has been adding them left right and center, even nicknames for objects he himself came up with! Vacuum Cleaner Galaxy anyone?)--Kalsermar 16:05, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
