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Contents 1 ==List of Cornell people== 2 Student groups added to {{Cornell}} 3 Image:Deane Waldo Malott.jpg 4 Ban this ip address 5 North and West Campus pictures 6 Cornell University peer review 7 Pictures for Cornell Art Museum 8 New style for introduction 9 Cornell Big Red 10 Solitary year links creeping back into the Cornell article 11 copywrite status improvement, but need help, cornell010 12 Start new Featured Article Discussion Section 13 Wikipedia help 14 Why I can't login? 15 What do you know about Phi Kappa Tau? 16 Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot 17 So are we on track for Featured Article? 18 Reverting image cleanup 19 Good Job 20 Cornell Athletics: Big Red article 21 Wikipedia:Articles needing translation 22 Waiters 23 SA Resolution 24 Peerreviewer script 25 Beautiful Cornell photos 26 Iranian Cornellian 27 You ought to activate your email address 28 Cornell 29 Orphaned fair use image (Image:Hadleyontv.jpg) 30 Turn Left page 31 Request 32 Unspecified source for Image:Carl Sagan.jpg 33 Cornelliana 34 What firewall is better to install? 35 Non-free use disputed for Image:CourtHall1.jpg 36 Unspecified source for Image:Jacob_Gould_Schurman.jpg 37 Replaceable fair use Image:Bethe.bicycle.jpg 38 Fair use rationale for Image:Edmund_Ezra_Day.jpg 39 Florida Atlantic University 40 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Candid2.jpg 41 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Deane Waldo Malott.jpg 42 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Livingston Farrand.jpg

[edit] ==List of Cornell people==

Nice work cleaning it up. Keep it up! Cornell Rockey 01:36, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for all the work on CU People! --Xtreambar 06:52, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Student groups added to {{Cornell}}

I'm concerned that, with an increasing number of student organizations being added to the {{Cornell}} template, at some point in the future they could end up swamping the template, especially as I could totally see this thing snowballing ("Banghra has a Wikipedia page?! Well, I can think of a few reasons why the Dairy Club/The Quad/the Big Red Band is notable for a Wikipedia entry too!"). While those organizations should have articles if they're notable enough -- a lot of these groups have long, long histories -- at a certain point, we should probably consider a method of breaking student groups out into smaller groups.

One such method might be to create sub-templates that serve as hubs. For instance, instead of listing all of the newspapers at Cornell, there could simply be a link that says "Student publications" which leads to {{Cornell-pubs}}. At that template page, there could be a brief <noinclude>d intro, something along the lines of "Cornell University students produce numerous periodic publications, including 6 newspapers, 4 literary magazines, and 1 satire magazine. Use the template below to navigate the individual articles for those publications." There might be better solutions to the ballooning of student organizations in the template, but pretty soon we're going to need one solution or another. Let me know what you think. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JDoorjam (talk • contribs)

I understood this when I started expanding the Cornell template, and figure that this is what we should do. Create a new page for Cornell Student Activities which goes into more detail about what students do at Cornell, and link from it on the main page as we have with mainarticle. I think this page ought to be the hub for everything students do, and include a second template, similar to the main Cornell one, with links to each of the Cornell Student Activities pages. These pages can be clubs, newspapers, a capella groups (we ought to get rid of the Cornell a capella template, we're broadening in scope here), etc. I also want to expand upon fraternity and sorority life at Cornell. Each student organization could then include both Cornell templates. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mercuryboard (talk • contribs)

There are two issues that may need addressing. First, pages like Cornell a cappella groups might get tagged pretty quickly as almamatercruft because, while individual groups might have claims to notability, there's not much to say about the a cappella "scene" at Cornell as a whole (that wouldn't be original research). I still think it's a good idea; I'm simply worried about hurdles to its implementation. That's why I was suggesting the workaround of putting a brief explanatory blurb on the template pages.

The second problem is one of layout: the templates are simply too big to include both on the articles about student activities. For instance, at Cayuga's Waiters, both the {{Cornell}} and {{Cornell-aca}} templates are on the page, and they take up most of the article. I propose the following solution: we generate templates by category for each sub-grouping (one for pubs, keep the one for a cappella groups), and then generate a sort of {{Cornell-lite}} template. This template would be a streamlined template specifically built for student org pages, and would have three lines: the first, Cornell's seal and name, linking to Cornell University, the second listing the other broad activity categories (either linking to the articles created for each sub-section, via your method, or if yours cannot be implemented, the blurbed templates, via mine), and the third listing the broader navigation sections that are currently in {{Cornell}}, but not its sub-parts. So, for instance, The Waiters would have Cornell-aca, and then below that would be:

                [CU Seal]             Cornell University
A cappella * Publications * Fraternities and sororities * Student governance
  Academics * Athletics * Campus * Cornelliana * Student life * Residences

... thus giving more than enough content to navigate amongst the various sections without filling up 80% of the article with Big Red Rectangles. On the "main" pages, which discuss categories (like Student life or Cornelliana), we'd still employ the "mothership" template that lists everything out. Waddayathink? JDoorjam Talk 16:11, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Good. Make it happen. I've got finals but I'll be putting in some more effort on this after they're done. -Mercuryboard 17:04, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

I did some basic stuff. Check out the Cayuga's Waiters page. Do we need the a capella template? -Mercuryboard 02:23, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Deane Waldo Malott.jpg

Please add a Wikipedia:Fair use rationale to this image, as all images uploaded after May 4, 2006 require one, or they will be deleted in 7 days. --Rory096 06:37, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ban this ip address

I think we should prevent the user of this ip address from editing the cornell page: 205.188.116.197. If you look at the history section you will see how they edited a section with the words "produced several flamingly gay members of society".--Cornell010 06:28, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Relax, it was one edit which was fixed in a minute, and he might never come back again. Are you Cornell class of 2010? -mercuryboard^talk ♠ 06:31, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I am a member of the Cornell class of 2010.--Cornell010 22:05, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] North and West Campus pictures

This is in reference to the pictures/drawings of North and West Campus. Shouldn't we be allowed to use these pictures due to the fact that they were released to increase public knowledge on the North and West campuses (by Cornell).--Cornell010 22:05, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Not necessarily. You have to prove that they're fair use. See WP:IT. -mercuryboard^talk ♠ 22:07, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cornell University peer review

I saw a comment of yours asking whether the article is ready for FAC. At the moment, I am not sure about that (given the nature of university articles and the tendency of people, especially current students and alumni, to add only positive characteristics or pure insults to such articles). However, since your goal is FA for this article, I would suggest you ask two people who can help: Tony (who helped me in copyediting the University of Michigan article) and Taxman (who had provided comments for the university articles that achieved FA). Pentawing^Talk 22:38, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

I believe we've done a good job at npov, and I'm seeking the peer review (and eventual FAC) to iron out any additional issues. Thanks for the help. -mercuryboard^talk ♠ 22:52, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures for Cornell Art Museum

Can we use pictures of the artwork from the website?--Cornell010 01:46, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, if you can prove fair use. Be careful with that. Your best bet is for very old artwork and such. -mercuryboard^talk ♠ 02:09, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New style for introduction

Cornell's introduction should be modeled after the University of Michigan's.--Cornell010 03:19, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cornell Big Red

I've just started a new job that will take much of my time from now until election day, but its hourly demands are far from clear. As the work situation becomes more firm, I may be able to have some time to help out. I'm not exactly clear on what you'd like to have done, so if you could list that more specifically for me, I'd hopefully be able to help out. Cornell Rockey 23:20, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Solitary year links creeping back into the Cornell article

I see that some solitary year links have crept back into the Cornell article. Could you run it through the tool again? Feel free to run it on all articles in categories of interest to you. You are doing great work. Regards bobblewik 13:18, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] copywrite status improvement, but need help, cornell010

Alright, I have gotten the Sergeev pictures approved, and now we can use them, however, I need help with the following:

Special Wikimedia image tag Which one is the image tag that says roughly "permission was granted to use this image under the GFDL in an email (ticket #) to the wikimedia fundation"? It is needed for Image:CentralAvenueCornell2.jpg and possibly others Circeus 17:26, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks.--Cornell010 17:31, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

What is the ticket number/email/any relevent information? -mercuryboard^talk ♠ 17:41, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Start new Featured Article Discussion Section

The current one is getting hard to read, therefore, I propose that we archive the current one and create a new discussion board for featured article status. Thanks!--User:Cornell010 22:25, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Dude, you need to relax. Take a look at how long in time and text other WP:FACs take and chill out. -mercuryboard^talk ♠ 22:28, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia help

I was wondering how exactly one archives a talk page. This is just out of curiosity.--User: Cornell010 18:14, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

See the 'move' method on WP:ARCHIVE. Don't use the copy and paste, and only archive when you have many pages of old irrelevent discussion. I'd leave it to a more experienced editor if you're not sure. Always ask before doing something like that unless you know what you're doing. -mercuryboard^talk ♠ 18:24, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why I can't login?

I work for Homeland Security (i.e. access restrictions (lol))--Cornell010 19:37, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What do you know about Phi Kappa Tau?

I was wondering if have some general knowledge about this fraternity and its reputation? Thanks. --User:Cornell010 03:56, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't know anything. Why? -mercuryboard^talk ♠ 03:56, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] So are we on track for Featured Article?

I was just wondering, as the 2 object people are pretty staunch in their objections.--Cornell010 03:16, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Probably. The objectors still have to review the changes. They haven't been back yet. —mercuryboard^talk 03:30, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

So, if all the objectors agree to support the article, then who gets it to become a FA article, you or one of the editors. Also, do we need to get all of the editors to support, or just a majority?--User:Cornell010 17:08, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

There have to be no significant "actionable objections." That means if somebody objects, it has to be really minor, or fixed, or unfixable. Raul654 is the admin director of the FA system and he has the final say in everything. Every once in a while he sees if the discussions are going anywhere and acts appropriately. —mercuryboard^talk 17:21, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reverting image cleanup

Please be more careful about image licenses in the future. This edit of yours removed the noncommercial template from an image that is licensed only for noncommercial use. Thanks. Jkelly 23:53, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi. I got caught by something like this myself not too long ago. We can see at the NAIC mission page that they are actually a cooperation between the NSF and Cornell University, meaning that their images are not automatically public domain as if they had come directly from the NSF. There's a whole ton of stuff marked as PD-NASA with the same problem. Know anybody with a camera who lives near Cornell? Jkelly 00:38, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, many, including myself during the school year. The problem is that Arecibo is located in Puerto Rico, and inaccessible to the public. I've just found another source for the same image, this time on a the NASA Astronomy Picture of the Day site. It credits the NSF. Comments? —mercuryboard^talk 00:42, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Know anybody with a camera who lives near Puerto Rico? Check out the attribution -- credit goes to NAIC, Cornell and the NSF. I think we should believe NAIC when they say that they can license their images for non-commercial use only; shared credit with a gov't department isn't enough to make it work by a gov't agent in the performance of their duties. This image is old enough that it isn't going to get automatically deleted for being noncommercial, though. Jkelly 00:48, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good Job

Thanks for getting the Cornell article to featured status.Cornell010 01:23, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Great job! It's amazing how much has been done in such a short time. --C S (Talk) 12:15, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cornell Athletics: Big Red article

I think we need to make the table horizontal somehow, otherwise, the page looks really awkward and messy the way it is right now.--Cornell010 20:00, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

I was thinking of something like this, but cleaner: (removed)

This should be on Talk:Cornell Big Red. I will see it there. Trust me. —mercuryboard^talk 02:26, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles needing translation

Hi there! You recently posted an article, Korn (onomastics) for translation. I translated it, or at least what was worth translating. To tell the truth, a lot of the German text, in fact, almost all of it, was not worth keeping in the article, so I didn't. Happy to be of service, RyanGerbil10 (Drop on in!) 17:46, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Waiters

thanks for the changes on the cayuga's waiters entry. Who are you and how did you see them so quickly? —Preceding unsigned comment added by bwm6 (talk • contribs)

[edit] SA Resolution

Hello- I am extemely offended by the insinuation that my edits to the Cornell wikipedia page were in any way biased. If anything, I was extremely purturbed to come accross the entry that I have been trying to edit as it originally was. If you are going to talk about that Resolution by the Student Assembly (which I don't find necessary as it has nothing to do with Cornell's history, or the Student Assembly's current or future initatives), then at least qualify it as what it was-- a very unique piece of legislation that PASSED with FLYING COLORS and set a tremendous precedent for other student governments across the country. I don't see what it has to do with the SA's money management, and don't recall that coming up at all during the last few months. As such, please respect my edit, as it is not misrepresenting the resolution of university whatsoever. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.87.25.15 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Peerreviewer script

Thanks for the detailed notes! About the nbsp problem, it seems like the last several times it has falsely been triggered it always due to the usage of "in" after a number, so I simply removed it. (RegExp.$1 alternatively will catch the thing that triggered the comment, by returning the first actual value in parentheses) About the headingthe problem, it seems like I'm the only one who hasn't been receiving the problem - see User talk:AndyZ#Javascript: "Headingthe". For some odd reason, some users seem to be receiving that comment incorrectly, while I never seem to get it when I use the script (my reviewing of the article doesn't show any headingthe comment). AZ _t 00:33, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Good idea, I did it. AZ _t 01:01, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Beautiful Cornell photos

You mentioned before that there were too many photos of the clocktower. The cornell alumni page has many photos that could help the main cornell wiki page:

http://www.alumni.cornell.edu/photo/index.htm

[edit] Iranian Cornellian

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:rO1CK9Je6U0J:www.factbites.com/topics/Jamshid-Amuzegar+%22Jamshid+Amuzegar%22+cornell+-brewing&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1

I found a citation. The old Cornell alumni mag has since been taken down, but this remains. The specific degrees are not mentioned, but the dates are confirmed. --Xtreambar 18:32, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You ought to activate your email address

... even if you deactivate it five minutes later. I found an interesting bit of Cornell-related information. Let me know when you get curious enough to set it up. JDoorjam Talk 00:13, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cornell

Congrads on getting Cornell to the front page. Wish I could have helped, but work is hectic. Well done! Cornell Rockey 00:37, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:Hadleyontv.jpg)

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Hi,

I saw that you deleted what I added regarding NRC ranking of Cornell. NRC ranking is the mosr regarded ranking in academia and is more respected than USNEWS or TIMES magazine. The last ranking was done in 1995 and is still the most recent one. As you could see, Cornell rank in NRC is better than its rank in USNEWS, so I thought to add it to the ranking section. Of course, you could edit that section, but please keep it there as it shows academic ranking of us as well as ranking of most Enginnering Departments (surprisingly, many of our departments rank better than the whole college of Engineering).

Cheers

[edit] Turn Left page

Hi. I'm involved in an argument on the Turn Left page. As you have edited the page in the past, I'd like to seek your input on the matter, also dicussed on Talk:Turn_Left. Thank you. Xiner 02:25, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request

Dear Mercyryboard,

Could you please take a look at Ohio Wesleyan University's article and provide some comments what the article still needs for a FA nomination. I'd greatly appreciate your help! WikiprojectOWU 05:20, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Cornelliana

FYI, Cornelliana has been listed as an Article for Deletion. --Xtreambar 15:01, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Florida Atlantic University

I noticed you were one of the primary contributors to the Cornell University article. I'm having Florida Atlantic University undergo a peer review before taking it to WP:FAC. Since you are familiar with the process I was wondering if you would mind taking a look at the article? If so, please go here to offer any advice/suggestions.

Thanks, KnightLago 22:34, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

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