Talk:Mercedes-Benz W124

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[edit] wagons

why so many station wagons??? this does not properly represent the w124. most w124s were sedans, and wagons were rare. somebody please take these wagons down to maybe 1 picture max, and put up some sedans to properly represent what the w124 really was. im thinking somebody, perhaps biased against mercedes, put up all these wagons..........


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is the OM603 based TD's year correct? It says 87, but chassis codes &c seem to point to it being more likely as being a 19*97*

Comment: In the first paragraph of History, the phrase "the last in a long line of "money-no-object" Mercedes saloons" is argumentive, because I do not think that everyone would agree with it. Consequently, I do not think it meets the requirement for a neutral point of view. I recognize that there is a lot of opinion among Mercedes Benz fans that the marque "is not what it used to be." But that conclusion is arguable, and even those who agree with it might disagree on when the "good cars" were last produced. I have heard some folks say that the last of the really good cars was in the early 1970s, for example. Davidb0229 21:21, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] European models

Comment: This article does not cover the European market 4-cylinder E200, E220 and E230 models. http://www.w124.co.uk/modelrange.html gives a good summary of the models available in the UK

Good point. The article also doesn't include the E280 (2.8L I6). I would add this information to the article but I don't know the engine codes. Could someone do this?Davez621 10:28, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
The 2.8 L and 3.2 L I6 engines used in W124 are basically M103 engines with DOHC cylinder heads and four valves per cylinder. The DOHC versions go under codes M104.xxx. The first M104 engine was the "300E-24" (M104.980) which is equipped with the Bosch KE-Jetronic fuel injection system and a traditional distributor for the ignition. The later 2.8 L and 3.2 L engines have Siemens-VDO (or alternatively, if my memory serves correctly, the Bosch Motronic) electronic fuel injection and direct ignition which fires cylinders 1 and 6, 2 and 5, and 3 and 4, simultaniously. The 16-valve M111 (1.8-2.3 L) I4 engine was derived from the M104. Quite a lot of engine codes and power ratings can be dug out of the Mann-Filter Catalogue. -- 82.181.205.83 23:47, 9 February 2007 (UTC) Archyx

[edit] AMG E60

Why no information about this model? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 139.168.40.126 (talk) 17:06, 11 December 2006 (UTC).


The nickname "Hammer" is incorrectly attributed to the E500/500E Model. The actual "Hammer" was the 1987 Mercedes 300E AMG that came with a 5.5 or optional 6.0 liter 32-valve V8. More information can be acquired here:

http://www.fantasycars.com/sedans/HTML/mercedes_300e_amg_hammer_w124.html or here

http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=30163

[edit] I want to know the exact model of mercedes-bebz

I want to know the exact model of mercedes-benz 230E its chassis code is wdb1240231a231268 Thank you for your help , you can send the answer also at my email : naguitawfik@hotmail.com —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.213.63.89 (talk) 09:27, 6 March 2007 (UTC).

I would like to see a section on the standard problems of this series. I have a 1993 300TE (3.2L) and have had most of the standard issues. The slow oil leak with the M104 engine (although all the data I can gather recommends NOT repairing it) as well as the far too expensive engine wiring harness replacement, which is a MB defect and should be recalled (wire insulation degrades when exposed to heat). Overall this is a fine auto and I find myself opting to keep it everytime I look at a W210 or W211. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.111.234.144 (talk) 13:48, 6 September 2007 (UTC)