Talk:Mending Wall

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[edit] Good fences

First Use of "Good Fences..."

I'm not sure I like the recent changes by Al001 - for a start, I *think* that frost is the first source for "good fences make good neighbors" - which makes a nonsense of the change to the ironic status of this remark. In other words, it was not a proverb until frost publicised it. --Tomandlu 15:22, 9 January 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Copyright problem

Isn't there a problem with Wikipedia "publishing" this copyrighted poem without permission? Robertsteadman 06:48, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

The entire poem is certainly in the public domain. It was printed in a book in 1914 in the USA. Copyright has expired for anything published in the USA before 1923. The text here, FWIW, was only a brief excerpt from a much longer poem (see the external link), not the entire poem. The text of the book is available from Gutenberg. The full poem is at Wikisource. It's public domain. Smerdis of Tlön 18:14, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Delete

I suggest this article should be deleted. There ism, as stated above, copyright issues and therer seems little purpose to the article. It isn't a particularly famous poem (is it?). Does it deserve an article of its own? Robertsteadman 18:06, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

It already exists at wikisource here, so I don't really know why we need an article on it. For example, most of Poe's works don't have articles either. They are linked from a list of works to the wikisource. Syrthiss 19:12, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AfD Result Notice

This article was the subject of an AfD discussion closed on 13 June 2006. The result was Keep. Xoloz 16:11, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

A poor decision based on an incorrect interpretation of the laws of copyright. This isn't the end - let's hope things are sorted before WP is sued. I'm guessing there are many similar cases through WP. Robertsteadman 17:38, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Frost's use of "good fences makes good neighbors" is not ironic at all in the sense the wiki author implies, but rather, is a greater cultural critique of privacy and our need for it -- as it conflicts with ones's sense of community mindedness and good-neighborliness. I find the current phrasing greatly irksome, as well as misleading and incomplete, and have thus NPOV tagged it -- This is too favorable towards "Frost, the icon of Americana" not "Frost, the subtle spinner of cynicism". (Of which we was both) 66.31.224.53 21:04, 15 February 2007 (UTC)