Talk:Men in Black (Three Stooges short)

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[edit] Possible Changes

If Wikipedia is trying to move away from trivia in their articles, we should probably consider removing the notes about Ren & Stimpy, Weird Al, and the other Men in Black movie. These really do not have anything to do with the Stooges short, and are just trivia. I didn't want to make the change, though, without mentioning it here. Fleagle 04:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

I think "trivia" sections are just bad form. Usually these random notes can be worked into a logical narrative in the body of the text of the article. On the other hand, I'm not crazy about mentioning every reference to every Stooge move found in every cartoon either... Rizzleboffin 21:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree. I'll remove such references if no one minds. Fleagle 00:18, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hammerspace

The forced retroactive application of the anime-based 1990's(?) neologism Hammerspace seems inappropriate, applied to a live-action comedy film from 1934. The writers had no such concept of an extra dimension, merely the surprise-based humor of apparent violation of expected physical behavior of objects, one of many absurd or surreal ideas explored in early physical-comedy films. The more appropriate term to be applied to horses-from-the-closet is simply Surrealism, an idea originating in the same time period as the film. --Lexein 10:06, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I was under the impression that hammerspace is a concept for the sake of the viewer, used to explain the impossibility between size and space, and was never an actual principle intentionally used by directors. In other words, no director says "Let's throw in some hammerspace here." Instead, they use the element of surprise, as you mentioned, and then the viewer explains it by saying that they are using hammerspace. Therefore, I think it is relevant regardless of when the film was made. Fleagle 00:28, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Ugh. I'll bet you one million dollars that in 50 years, everyone will know what Surrealism is, but hammerspace will revert to being either the painted outline around the hook on the wall where the hammer is hung, or the shape of the dent that's left in an anime fans' head when a Stooges fan is done with them. --Lexein 01:47, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Lol. That's all fine and dandy, and I'm sure in 50 years you can change it. But for now it's relevant to the article and fits perfectly, so I see no reason to change it. Fleagle 03:14, 23 March 2007 (UTC)