Talk:Member State of the European Union

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[edit] Netherlands

Notwithstanding fn 4 with the list of member states, I am pretty certain that the _kingdom_ of the Netherlands is not a member of the European Union. Only the larger constituent country, the Netherlands, is. 86.80.57.32 (talk) 23:04, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Old comments

When I came back from the Canaries in 1996 they were specificly mentioned as not qualifying for EU customes exemption. I took this to mean tht athey were not in the Customs Union. DJ Clayworth 21:42, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Can someone indicates what's about the micro-states as Andorra, Monaco, San Marino and Lichenstein?

Maybe worth mentioning they are not democracies and so not eligible to join

Liechtenstein used to be in a customs union with Switzerland and member of the EFTA, but when they signed the EEA (European economic Area) agreement, (I think in 1995) they have moved closer to the EU, Monaco has strict agreements with France, Isle of Man, Jersey and Guernsey are strictly speaking not in the EU, Canary Islands form a special economic zone, Gibraltar is a special case, EU air traffic regulations are a reason for UK-Spanish tension over Gibraltar, San Marino and Vatican City are somehow regulated by Italy, These cases could be researched by someone for extending this article.

Greenland left the EU at the end of the eighties. The situatation of Faroe Islands and the Aland islands should be checked.

Morocco has applied for EU membership, this was declined.

Morocco's application was declined with the official reason that it is not on the "european continent", but yes this should be mentioned somewhere Alinor 21:44, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Iceland

What about Iceland? had it attempted to join the EU?

Not to my knowledge. Wombat 11:06, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Mainly due to difficulties with common fisheries policy I think

[edit] Belarus

This is from an article I wrote: "Belarus has not stated publicly that they seek out EU membership, but former Lithuanian Prime Minister Andrius Kubilius state in 2003 that Belarus despretly needs membership in order to "get out of the swamp." [1] Kubilius also said that he hoped that with Lithuania being members of the EU and NATO could help suppply aid to Belarus." Zach (Sound Off) 03:52, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Changes

1.) We should list the "possible candidate states" from the Western Balkans as such.

included them as part of the Stabilisation and Association process that includes provisions for full EU membership. Alinor 08:12, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

2.) We should either list all countries which have signed an Association Agreement with the EU - that is, almost all countries in the European Neighbourhood Policy - or leave Tunisia out of this. ナイトスタリオン ✉ 15:01, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Agree and acted. Too many countries have AAs with the EU. Only Morocco is left, becouse it has submitted official application.Alinor 08:12, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] (Alphabetical order)

Why can't this page have a list in alphabetical order? Jon Harald Søby 21:59, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

good question. seems reasonable.
I was thinking the same thing, sometimes you just want to know who they are, not their form of government etc. Have added it. -JLogan 09:18, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Why did someone replace the alphabetical list with another accession list? We already have one, do we need another on the main page? I've put another small alpha list back up along side it as I'm sure someone will just want to see the countries and find one quickly rather than wanting to know when they joined, it seems there is an unhealthy interest in that among some people. -JLogan 09:12, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Missing footnotes

Have just left two unfilled lines (immediately below the table) for the "a" and "b" footnotes appearing in the table, but am not sure what they're meant to be; I guess "a" might be to indicate that West Germany is now Germany, but as to "b"...?  Regards, David Kernow (talk) 22:40, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Map

Hi, great changes all round and its good to see it developed, does look very neat and well planned, particularly the list. However, the map. Now its a good idea to be able to click on the names but surely we could do better than that back image? Surely you didn't create it Ssolbergj? Your stuff always looks fantastic, that map, well come on Moldova is a sea now. Perhaps we could edit it to fix the missing geography and have colours that the a tad, well, nice? Thanks. -JLogan 22:23, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Capital and largest city

Do we really need the largest city column? There is only one member state where the capital is not also the largest city. — Kpalion(talk) 20:30, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Expansion

I think this article could include a section on the EEA and perhaps other close relationships. The fact is the EEA countries are ties to the EU in 1001 ways, obviously in the single market and taking on all that law, but politically as well, participating in the CFSP (battle groups) and programs like Erasmus, and Schengen and so fourth. The fax democracies are essentially members without representation (the polite way) and I think we could do with a section on them. But I'd like to check to see if people think this is within the scope of the article. - J Logan t/c: 21:30, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Does anyone have information about the development of the role of member states? - to give the article a dimention beyond extra members joining. Perhaps something about the decreasing power of them, new bodies representing them such as the European Council and how they deal with each other, such as the empty chair crisis. - J Logan t: 09:30, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
"Decreasing power" sounds a bit POV to me. Could easily be argued that the Reform Treaty negotiations showed just how easy it could be to get a particular agenda across if you wanted. Look at Poland's insistence on an AG and less MEPs for Germany, and Bulgaria's insistence on the Cyrillic (spelling?) writing being recognised as just a couple of examples. I think its best to leave out any discussion on the role of the member states as it would be difficult to describe it accurately. Plus itd be far too contentious. Discussion of the EEA isn't necessary if you ask me, considering there's an EEA page already. Though I could be convinced otherwise on the latter point. --Simonski (talk) 19:24, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Former featured list candidate

Is this still a list? - J Logan t: 09:30, 26 July 2007 (UTC)